Video: Interview with Senator Jeff Sessions on immigration; Update: Video fixed

posted at 1:01 pm on June 15, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday morning, I posted the audio from my interview of Senator Marco Rubio from Thursday night’s Hugh Hewitt show. Later in the day, Senator Jeff Sessions came on my show to give his perspective on the Gang of Eight immigration reform effort. Duane “Generalissimo” Patterson joined me as Sessions outlined his objections to the current approach, his frustration at the defeat of the Grassley amendment, and the outlook for an upcoming CBO score on the Gang of Eight proposal:

Sen. Jeff Sessions on Immigration Reform Bill from Ed Morrissey on Vimeo.

The show was posted in its entirety yesterday, and this takes place at around the 45-minute mark. It’s a hot topic, though, and I figured that Hot Air readers would appreciate an opportunity to hear Sen. Session’s remarks if they missed the show yesterday.

The CBO score may come out as soon as Monday, but if not it should be sometime this week. Sessions argues that the traditional ten-year analysis will provide a falsely positive look at the impact, since those getting normalized won’t generate extra costs in government programs until well after the first decade (in most cases). Will the CBO score the impact farther out than the first decade? That’s something to watch.

Sessions and his allies also want to see how the CBO will treat the impact on wages from normalization and increased immigration. Will it include the extra costs that have to be absorbed at the state and local levels? What about means-tested programs, especially the Earned Income Tax Credit? Sessions explains his concerns specifically about EITC in the interview with Duane and me. Be sure to watch it all.

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The NSA has blocked this audio?

faraway on June 15, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Need to change the settings. It’s on private right now.

Bigbullets on June 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Pay per view?

wolly4321 on June 15, 2013 at 1:10 PM

I saw Sessions on the Senate floor on C-SPAN (Friday, June 7th, I believe) detailing his objections to and taking apart the falsehoods being perpetrated about the bill. Very enlightening.

Syzygy on June 15, 2013 at 1:11 PM

OT – Obama’s brothers succeed, apace.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2013 at 1:11 PM

PRISM 2.0 approves all videos in advance now

faraway on June 15, 2013 at 1:14 PM

More importantly, Sarah came out once again, against amnesty today.

renalin on June 15, 2013 at 1:16 PM

What’s that big old padlock in the middle of the screen and who is Vimeo?

Cindy Munford on June 15, 2013 at 1:16 PM

We are screwed. I heard a legislative analysis yesterday. Everything the public has heard about the bill is a lie. It doubles legal immigration.The bill decriminalizes the use of false documents including SSN and Passports by aliens, but not citizens. It removes drunken driving as a crime for illegals in the application process. It provides no border security. It allows administrative waivers of every enforcement provision. It provides free health care including free premium payments up to $9,000 a year in perpetuity for all legal and illegal aliens. It allows unlimited perpetual asylum for residents of dangerous countries, code for Muslim countries. It adds a new layer of immigration appeals to ensure that no one can be deported.The bill provides no enforcement mechanism for adverse rulings. It does not penalize employers of illegals and actually makes it a crime to check on citizenship status. It sets up a huge program for paying community organizers to acclimate immigrants to ensure that they receive medical coverage, food stamps and other entitlements, including free legal services to sue employers, the government and to fight deportation. All paid for by the taxpayer and managed by left wing recruiters for the DNC. It does not require English to be learned. It does not require back taxes to be paid unless properly assessed to a correct SSN. Previously taken illegal tax credits will not be criminalized or need be repaid.

pat on June 15, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Good bye USA

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM

More importantly, Sarah came out once again, against amnesty today.

renalin on June 15, 2013 at 1:16 PM

LINK>!?

El_Terrible on June 15, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Sessions and his allies also want to see how the CBO will treat the impact on wages from normalization and increased immigration.

Normalization?? NORMALIZATION?????

Rewarding 11 to 30 million foreign invaders with the precious gift of American citizenship is NORMAL?

This Federal Republic has come a long way, baby!

fred5678 on June 15, 2013 at 1:31 PM

pat on June 15, 2013 at 1:19 PM

A veritable nightmare on steroids, for sure.

TXUS on June 15, 2013 at 1:32 PM

The only thing you have to remember is that no matter what bullsh!t they write and pass the only part that will be funded and enforced is the legalization of the illegals.

Cindy Munford on June 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM

LINK>!?

El_Terrible on June 15, 2013 at 1:29 PM

She was speaking at the Faith and Freedom Conference. It was part of a longer speech. CNN did broadcast it live, so perhaps a video will be available later, but so far there isn’t a link one can provide. Be patient.

theotherone on June 15, 2013 at 1:37 PM

David Burge @iowahawkblog

Govt has to scrape all your phone calls and emails because govt forgot to enforce immigration law on 20 expired visas in 2001.
9:30 AM – 8 Jun 2013

Cindy Munford on June 15, 2013 at 1:37 PM

So they want unlimited immigration, because under the yolk (both economic and cultural) of the systems they have created to maintain their hold on power, American families are dwindling, and not having kids.

And they call Snowden a traitor?

Oh, and one word to those with the environmentalist agenda. TOOLS!

WryTrvllr on June 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM

CBO Score: 11 million illegal aliens will each pay the $500 fine bringing in $5.5 billion in revenue.

Reality: Napolitano will grant a blanket waiver so revenue will be $0

Wigglesworth on June 15, 2013 at 1:43 PM

In case it hasn’t been said recently, Jeb Bush is a moron.

xblade on June 15, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Amnesty bill funnels $100 MILLION of our tax money to La Raza and affiliates — after all, La Raza lawyers wrote the bill.

One of the La Raza affiliates:

Mi Familia Vota is a national organization working to unite the Latino community and its allies to ensure social and economic justice through increased civic participation

And the handy citizenship application web site — conveniently in our nation language Spanish.

fred5678 on June 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM

My apologies on the video problem. I pulled over on my 90 minute road trip after getting an alert about it and fixed it.

Ed Morrissey on June 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Nice shirt Ed ;)

DarkCurrent on June 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Ed Morrissey on June 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM

You’re a good man!!!

Cindy Munford on June 15, 2013 at 1:57 PM

More importantly, Sarah came out once again, against amnesty today.

renalin

You better cherish the memory. After Monday, it won’t happen again.

xblade on June 15, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Sessions argues that the traditional ten-year analysis will provide a falsely positive look at the impact, since those getting normalized won’t generate extra costs in government programs until well after the first decade (in most cases). Will the CBO score the impact farther out than the first decade?

The CBO will only score it for the first 10 years, because the whole scam is explicitly set up for that.

The amnestied illegal aliens are denied taxpayer-funded benefits — but only for the first 10 years.

Of course, illegal aliens currently are not legally eligible to receive food stamps, Medicaid, welfare, and a host of other taxpayer-funded benefits, but we all know they’re getting them anyway, to the tune of billions of dollars every year. That will continue once the illegal aliens are amnestied, because we all know that Obama is not suddenly going to care about enforcing federal law just because another federal law is passed.

But the CBO will score the amnesty bill as if the law will be enforced as written (even though we all know it will not be), and they will give us some rosy scenario in which tens of millions of low-skill, 10th-grade educated, limited English, food stamp and welfare-receiving foreigners will add many trillions of dollars to our economy.

It’s all a farce of course. But we’re just supposed to wink and go along with it, because it’s what Big Government and Big Business want, and it’s part of the New World Order — so just suck it up comrades.

AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Ed:

It’s a hot topic, though, and I figured that Hot Air readers would appreciate an opportunity to hear Sen. Session’s explanation for his vote to confirm Eric Holder, the most hilarious nitwit to hold the office of Attorney General in modern history

I kid. No, Ed would never ask Sessions anything like that. Sad…

Jaibones on June 15, 2013 at 2:01 PM

In case it hasn’t been said recently, Jeb Bush is a moron.

xblade on June 15, 2013 at 1:51 PM

It has, but I think it’s a profoundly important point. We should remind ourselves regularly.

Jaibones on June 15, 2013 at 2:03 PM

We are screwed. I heard a legislative analysis yesterday. Everything the public has heard about the bill is a lie. It doubles legal immigration.The bill decriminalizes the use of false documents including SSN and Passports by aliens, but not citizens. It removes drunken driving as a crime for illegals in the application process. It provides no border security. It allows administrative waivers of every enforcement provision. It provides free health care including free premium payments up to $9,000 a year in perpetuity for all legal and illegal aliens. It allows unlimited perpetual asylum for residents of dangerous countries, code for Muslim countries. It adds a new layer of immigration appeals to ensure that no one can be deported.The bill provides no enforcement mechanism for adverse rulings. It does not penalize employers of illegals and actually makes it a crime to check on citizenship status. It sets up a huge program for paying community organizers to acclimate immigrants to ensure that they receive medical coverage, food stamps and other entitlements, including free legal services to sue employers, the government and to fight deportation. All paid for by the taxpayer and managed by left wing recruiters for the DNC. It does not require English to be learned. It does not require back taxes to be paid unless properly assessed to a correct SSN. Previously taken illegal tax credits will not be criminalized or need be repaid.
pat on June 15, 2013 at 1:19 PM

I, for one, would like your source on this for further reading and personal evaluation.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Reality: Napolitano will grant a blanket waiver so revenue will be $0

Wigglesworth on June 15, 2013 at 1:43 PM

It won’t be a blanket waiver. That would be too obvious.

No, there will be a box on the amnesty application form. It will ask the applicant to check the box if paying the fine would be a “financial hardship” for the applicant. (That is the loophole that’s written into the amnesty bill).

Of course, La Raza will be spending the hundreds of millions of our tax dollars they’re getting under the amnesty bill to run seminars, in which they’ll instruct illegal aliens how to check the “financial hardship” box so they can avoid paying the fine.

They currently do this when they sign up illegal aliens to vote. See the box on the form where it asks: Are you a U.S. citizen? Just check “yes” amigo. Nobody ever verifies your citizenship, and in the unlikely event you are ever asked about it, you’ll just say you misunderstood. You can’t be prosecuted unless you intended to lie, so you’ll just pretend you didn’t.

The U.S. government is a criminal enterprise, folks. And we’re funding it.

AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 2:05 PM

A sane Republican, at last

TexasJew on June 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM

It adds a new layer of immigration appeals to ensure that no one can be deported

And it provides “free” immigration lawyers to illegal aliens, at U.S. taxpayer expense!

AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Q: Which state is the weakest link in the chain when it comes to illegal immigration and national security?

Is it California? Arizona? New Mexico? Texas?

How about HAWAII…

…Sheriff Arpaio reported concerns that Hawaii’s statutes appeared to be in conflict with federal immigration law and the birth registration policy in Hawaii posed a threat to national security.

In 1982, Hawaii revised a long standing statute (§ 338.17.8) allowing the issuance of birth certificates to children born out of state. Hawaii declares these foreign born children to be American citizens simply by virtue of an application by any adult making representations on behalf of the parents, and simply supplying documentation substantiating the parents had resided in Hawaii and paid income tax to the state Hawaii for one year prior to the birth of the child. Thus, by statutory provision, Hawaii has granted upon itself the unique power to confer citizenship to children not born in the United States, and to children not born to United States citizen parents, but to children actually born on foreign soil.
[§338-17.8] Certificates for Children Born Out of State.

There is nothing in Hawaii Revised Statute § 338.17.8 to require that this birth certificate be marked as the child being born out of state, nor that was the child born within the United States or its territories. There is no requirement in this statute that at least one parent provide proof of United States citizenship.

This section only requires a declaration (and proof which is not defined and is based upon requirements deemed appropriate by the Director) that the parents were residents of Hawaii. It does not require that the parents were citizens of the United States.

By statutory provision Hawaii has granted upon itself the unique power to confer citizenship to children not born in the United States, and to children not born to United States citizen parents, but to children actually born on foreign soil.

It would appear that Hawaii Revised Statute § 338.17.8 is in direct conflict with the Immigration and Nationality Act, in that United States citizenship maybe be conferred to an individual who is not entitled to such citizenship.

See I.N.A. §§ 301, et seq., which comprehensively regulates how a child born out of the United States acquires U.S. Citizenship. Even this would require at least on parent be a United States citizen at the time of the birth.

This comprehensive regulation would clearly be meant to exclude any regulation in the area by the States. Arizona v. United States, 11-182 (June, 2012).

Compulsory registration of births, authorized by Hawaii Revised Law §57-8 requires all births of be registered. It also permits the registration for an unattended birth to be accepted on the representation of only one of the parents. No other witnesses are necessary for a claimed unattended birth. Conceivably, a parent could have given birth outside of the U.S., and claimed that it was an unattended birth (no witnesses) in Honolulu.

Local registrar to prepare birth certificate, authorized by Hawaii Revised Law §57-8 is bristling with the fraudulent potential by compelling the local registrar to prepare a birth certificate for an alleged unattended birth based solely uncorroborated testimony from anyone claiming to have had knowledge of the birth taking place.

Under this statute, a birth could exist outside of the U.S., and any person could represent false information to the local registrar. The registrar is compelled to file the certificate.

Additionally, there is no requirement for a parent or relative, providing identification to be present at time of registration. Any person, a relative, friend or stranger may registrar the birth of a child while both the mother and baby were outside of the country.

There is no verification process and no way to be certain of the actual identify of the parents.

AFFIDAVIT OF MICHAEL ZULLO

ITguy on June 15, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Sessions is Righteous.

This immigration bill is as big a disaster as Obamacare.

workingclass artist on June 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM

I, for one, would like your source on this for further reading and personal evaluation.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Sadly, everything pat reports about the amnesty bill is true. If you want to know what the amnesty bill really says (as opposed to the lies Rubio has been peddling), here’s a good place to start your reading:

http://www.fairus.org/DocServer/amnesty_2013_debate/Top_Reasons_to_Oppose_the_Gang_of_Eight_Amnesty_Bill_rev-6-6-13.pdf

AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 2:13 PM

This immigration bill is as big a disaster as Obamacare.

workingclass artist on June 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM

It is a bigger disaster than Obama’care’. Together they are lethal and destructive.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM

It’s all a farce of course. But we’re just supposed to wink and go along with it, because it’s what Big Government(Democrats) and Big Business(Republicans) want, and it’s part of the New World Order — so just suck it up comrades.
AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Neither party is fighting for you, for us, for the people, or for immigrants. Sure there’s a little bit of both big gov and big biz in both parties, but that’s the general scheme and the only real difference between the two parties.

D*mn them all, if you fight for, argue for, believe in, or push for either party, you’re an idiot and you’ve bought in to be exactly where they want you to be, complicit and blinded to the truth while being focused on the rhetoric and emotional appeals.

We’ve been using Mexico as a degrading “free trade” cheap labor pool for over a decade now. If money and products should be allowed to move freely across borders for the sake of profitability, people should be able to as well. Otherwise you’re just trying to trap them in the factory life our corporations use their country for.

I’ve got no problem with reforming our immigration system. I’ve got no problem with accepting those who are already here even.

But nothing “they” are going has anything to do at all with good policy or good ideas and everything to do with serving their special interest masters.

So don’t be an idiot. Don’t support the Republican party either.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM

She was speaking at the Faith and Freedom Conference. It was part of a longer speech. CNN did broadcast it live, so perhaps a video will be available later, but so far there isn’t a link one can provide. Be patient.

theotherone on June 15, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Thanks. Found a link, about to watch.
http://therightscoop.com/full-speech-sarah-palin-at-faith-and-freedom-coalitions-2013-road-to-majority-conference/

El_Terrible on June 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Speaking of Immigration Law, here is an observation:

The text of the Form I-9 has been changed to make it sound as if the burden is now on the Employer, rather than the Employee

Here’s what the form said when Obama took office as pResident:
(http://web.archive.org/web/20090103151148/http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-9.pdf)

All employees (citizens and noncitizens) hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States must complete a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

And here’s what the form says now:
(http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf)

Employers must complete Form I-9 to document verification of the identity and employment authorization of each new employee (both citizen and noncitizen) hired after November 6, 1986, to work in the United States.

Note, too, that the word “eligibility” has been dropped from that sentence…

Where is Obama’s Form I-9 and accompanying hardcopy documentation from the list of Acceptable Documentation?

The “document” Obama “released” was a PDF, not a hardcopy document, and that PDF is undoubtedly a forgery – a fabrication that was created electronically from pieces of other information, including a separate layer with a linked image of the Registrar’s stamp, which was ROTATED 90 DEGREES and placed into the PDF. There is absolutely no possible way that that could have been the result of a simple scan of an existing hardcopy Birth Certificate.

Something about the “Obama birth narrative” is not 100% true… and this PDF forgery was part of the cover-up.

ITguy on June 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM

The bill decriminalizes the use of false documents including SSN and Passports by aliens, but not citizens.

And anyone that claims that this is not amnesty is a deceitful, lying, waste of space, time, money, and air. An American citizen would face a maximum penalty of ten years in prison and fines of up to $250,000 for using a fraudulent SS card, but under this bill an illegal alien faces a $1,000 penalty covering ALL his many offenses, a penalty which in many cases we know will be waived. Then, they will be issued a new SS number without any past bad credit or arrest records.

And here’s another kicker. Illegal aliens will be granted amnesty for crimes they have committed, while government employees who discover SS fraud, identity theft, or perjury on I-9 forms while reviewing applications for provisional status would be prohibited from notifying victims, law enforcement, etc. with a threat of a $10,000 penalty. This is 10x more than the $1,000 penalty paid by an illegal alien who has committed those crimes including felony identity theft.

So whose country is this anyway? It certainly doesn’t seem to belong to law abiding American citizens.

lynncgb on June 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Sadly, everything pat reports about the amnesty bill is true. If you want to know what the amnesty bill really says (as opposed to the lies Rubio has been peddling), here’s a good place to start your reading:
http://www.fairus.org/DocServer/amnesty_2013_debate/Top_Reasons_to_Oppose_the_Gang_of_Eight_Amnesty_Bill_rev-6-6-13.pdf

AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 2:13 PM

An interesting read of Conservative oppositional talking points on it. Some of which very much DO deserve attention and should be addressed.

But I found none of the drastic actions Pat outlined anywhere in what you provided.

I would indeed like to see Pat’s source, as sources matter.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM

ITguy on June 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Oh give it up. Regardless, that horse is dead, brother. Even just bringing it up doesn’t help.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM

ITguy on June 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM

You have this completely wrong. The “birth narrative” is there to stop any progress being made on getting hold of his school records. In any case, he’s already been elected twice so there’s no point rehashing any of this. Hillary is up for 2016 and the GOP is engaged in a circular firing squad.

gh on June 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM

I’m beginning to think a border wall may be built soon… to keep us in.

faraway on June 15, 2013 at 2:23 PM

faraway on June 15, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Paragraph 2 of Mark Steyn’s Saturday NRO column (i think that one is actually syndicated but I get it from NRO).

gh on June 15, 2013 at 2:25 PM

We’ve been using Mexico as a degrading “free trade” cheap labor pool for over a decade now. If money and products should be allowed to move freely across borders for the sake of profitability, people should be able to as well. Otherwise you’re just trying to trap them in the factory life our corporations use their country for.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM

We can have open borders, or we can have a giant welfare state, but we can’t have both.

And the labor we’ve been importing from Mexico has been far from “cheap.” U.S. taxpayers subsidize it to the tune of billions of dollars a year. Employers who hire Mexicans (or El Salvadorans, or Hondurans, etc.) to pick their crops or pluck their chickens or slaughter their beef are able to get away with paying illegal alien workers below-market wages and no benefits like health insurance because U.S. taxpayers pick up the bill for them.

And if you really want freedom of movement across the border, then you’re going to have to change the laws not just in the U.S., but in Mexico as well. They’re hardly promoting “free trade” there either.

AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 2:26 PM

El_Terrible on June 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Thanks. This is better than the last speech I watched (a few weeks ago). I hope she has a coach …

gh on June 15, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Read the bill itself. It’s all in there.

AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Amnesty bill funnels $100 MILLION of our tax money to La Raza and affiliates — after all, La Raza lawyers wrote the bill.

One of the La Raza affiliates:

Mi Familia Vota is a national organization working to unite the Latino community and its allies to ensure social and economic justice through increased civic participation

And the handy citizenship application web site — conveniently in our nation language Spanish.

fred5678 on June 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Yep.

This is kinda like Pigford isn’t it.

La Raza is a hispanic racial supremacy organization.

workingclass artist on June 15, 2013 at 2:41 PM

This immigration bill is as big a disaster as Obamacare.

workingclass artist on June 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM

It is a bigger disaster than Obama’care’. Together they are lethal and destructive.

Schadenfreude on June 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Both are aimed at facilitating a One Party Fascist State.

workingclass artist on June 15, 2013 at 2:44 PM

If I had to choose a favorite Senator, Sessions would be my guy.

Sacramento on June 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM

This is kinda like Pigford isn’t it.

In the sense that it is deliberately designed to invite massive fraud, it is like Pigford.

But the fraud of the amnesty bill will dwarf the Pigford fraud. Pigford just ripped taxpayers off for a few billion dollars. The amnesty fraud will rip off trillions, and may very well destroy the entire nation.

AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 2:47 PM

We can have open borders, or we can have a giant welfare state, but we can’t have both.
And the labor we’ve been importing from Mexico has been far from “cheap.” U.S. taxpayers subsidize it to the tune of billions of dollars a year. Employers who hire Mexicans (or El Salvadorans, or Hondurans, etc.) to pick their crops or pluck their chickens or slaughter their beef are able to get away with paying illegal alien workers below-market wages and no benefits like health insurance because U.S. taxpayers pick up the bill for them.
And if you really want freedom of movement across the border, then you’re going to have to change the laws not just in the U.S., but in Mexico as well. They’re hardly promoting “free trade” there either.
AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Haha! No, you’ve misinterpreted what I was saying. I’m not talking about immigrant labor in the US. I’m talking about US companies that pushed for “free trade” agreements in order to be able to move their factories to Mexico in order to use them as a cheap labor pool where they can send the products back up north of the border and sell them at American prices, produced by Mexican wage labor, which has been continually pushed down over the years since Nafta’s passage, making an already bad situation worse, but also extremely profitable for our corporate overlords.

That’s what I mean by cheap labor pool. The majority of those who come here come trying to escape that cycle and finally be able to provide themselves with other options beyond moving to a city in Mexico and working for nothing and some change a day, where there’s ten people outside the door of you don’t like your working conditions or wages.

If that’s the approach we want to continue with in regards to our southern neighbor, then I believe the free movement of people should be allowed, and not just the free movement of capital and products across national lines.

Otherwise it’s just predatory. And the corporate overloads of Mexico just approve it right along too, since theyre the one percent of the population that benefits as the expense of the citizens.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Both are aimed at facilitating a One Party Fascist State.
workingclass artist on June 15, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Oh hush, we’ve been an in effect one party state for practically all of our citizens living memory. The only reason you didn’t see it before is because you were too busy buying into one side or the others bs delivery.

It’s only now that you’re even beginning to recognize it and the hook in your cheek is still forcing you to lean a little one way or the other.

It’s better to just accept it, and go from there.

Our government is not for us, and hasn’t been no matter who you believed when they passionately told you different and about that shining beacon on the hill. It was nothing but flavor to make the sh*t they’ve been feeding us more palatable, and us, more controllable and accepting.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Duane’s political point on the impact of ‘wind at the backs’ of GOP candidates…

Heh, there will be no Mormon Candidate in 2014 for the RNC to point to as the focus of bigoted ‘bible-toters’ staying home.

socalcon on June 15, 2013 at 3:08 PM

In case it hasn’t been said recently, Jeb Bush is a moron.

xblade on June 15, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Jeb Bush is the King George of our time. Or, the Bush Family collectively. Jeb without his name would be nothing.

But really, his comments yesterday including the line about immigrants being “more fertile” are without a doubt the most provocative, bigoted and downright creepy public statements I have heard in my life. Could his statements have displayed more of a Freudian fixation on the Other? Could he have more clearly said:

“You inbred white trash have had your time, and you should just go and die quickly”.

He should be drawn and quartered for saying this. He should be completely hounded out of the public sphere forever.

sartana on June 15, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Deport McCain and Graham to Syria

With T-shirts of Mohammed getting violated by a donkey

TexasJew on June 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Immigrants are more fertile because we subsidize their kids and social problems

This was not the case during the great immigration of 1880-1920 from Europe

Back then, it was sink or swim and most all of them swam and helped make a great and prosperous nation.

This group, not so much, Im afraid, because of the free goodies and very low skill sets (versus the average here)

TexasJew on June 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Texas Jew(is that you, Kinky?)

Last summer, my cousin and I took a brief tour along the US Border between Nuevo Laredo and Reynosa when returning to his apartment in Austin after a trip to Monterrey and Saltillo. In the largest town we hit, I think it was Rio Grande City, right by Falcon Lake, the biggest building by far in that town of maybe ten to fifteen thousand was the WIC office. Yes, that’s right- the Women, Infant and Children welfare office, i.e., the “Your Entire Vibrant Livelihood as Paid for by Whitey” mission.

At the time, I didn’t really feel as if I’d had a heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWBbtnzP1dk

sartana on June 15, 2013 at 4:13 PM

He should be drawn and quartered for saying this. He should be completely hounded out of the public sphere forever.

sartana on June 15, 2013 at 3:15 PM

I’m sorry to say this, but we haven’t yet approached the level of moral and political force, organization and determination required to flush the quisling fools like Jeb Bush from our system. I was wrong to be optimistic in 2011 when I thought we’d crossed a threshold and there was no way a Romney could ever win the nomination. The ruling class proved to be stronger and more vicious in their hatred of us than I’d imagined. We’re going to have to get stronger and angrier.

rrpjr on June 15, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I’m beginning to think a border wall may be built soon… to keep us in.

faraway on June 15, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Bullshiite!

We’ll let you leave.

with $15.

WryTrvllr on June 15, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:51 PM

I think we’re in agreement on many of these points.

AZCoyote on June 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Actually, law enforcement officials who ignored this for five years are just now paying attention and now understand that the PDF is undoubtedly a forgery:
youtube.com/watch?v=uCIALY

BPinNC on June 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Actually, law enforcement officials who ignored this for five years are just now paying attention and now understand that the PDF is undoubtedly a forgery:
youtube.com/watch?v=uCIALY
BPinNC on June 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Aaaaaaaand….. Nobody gives a s***. Truly.

You might as well still be arguing about hanging chads in Florida. It all comes out sounding the same, and all matters about the same amount. Which is to say, it doesn’t matter at all, and the people couldn’t care less, even of you and the guy I posted that reply to just can’t give up beating on that poor dead horse.

It’s gone brother. It’s over. It’s not running anymore, no matter how hard you swing at it.

So stop looking stupid. Bush stole the 2000 election! No way did those towers fall without help! And Obama’s birth certificate should allows us to not have to have him as the president!!

If he were a Republican, if he were Reagan, YOU wouldn’t give a s***. So let go of the whip, brother. It’s of no use anymore and all serves to make you and those around you look bad for not telling you to quit.

Genuine on June 15, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Shite, do I wish we’d picked up more Senate seats during the past two election cycles.

To be honest, I blame Bush and the spendthrift RINOs for all the spending and acceding to liberals housing problems, which yielded the 2008 meltdown and, in turn, ushered in Dem Congressional majorities from 2006 to 2010 and Obama in 2008.

BuckeyeSam on June 15, 2013 at 8:25 PM

The only thing you have to remember is that no matter what bullsh!t they write and pass the only part that will be funded and enforced is the legalization of the illegals.

Cindy Munford on June 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM

And doubling the number of “Guest workers,” that we do not need.

dogsoldier on June 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM