Burgers, bikinis and Obamacare, oh my!

posted at 7:01 pm on June 15, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Now that we’ve got your attention…

Even with an intentionally provocative title, the Wall Street Journal delivers an excellent interview this weekend with Andrew Puzder, CEO of CKE Restaurants. (That’s the parent company of Carls’ Jr. and Hardee’s.) He has an extensive and successful background, and his no-nonsense, business oriented attitude really comes through with his opening quote in the interview.

‘We’re not the brand for people who eat nuts and bark,” CKE Restaurants CEO Andy Puzder, tells me without apology. “Hell, I’ll walk into one of our stores to get a barbecue chicken sandwich and walk out with a Western bacon cheeseburger. You smell them, and you just get hungry. We’re the ‘young, hungry guy’ brand.”

The interview touches on how Puzder was tapped to turn the company around after a rough economic stretch, including his famous television ads featuring scantily clad models such as Nina Agdal and Kate Upton eating burgers. But he also gets down to the serious business of what worries him in terms of keeping the firm on a profitable track.

Government policies, he says, are stifling young, hungry entrepreneurs, and he doesn’t mean tech hotshots. He means the kind of entrepreneurs who run fast-food joints, often immigrants and minorities without much education. In other words, the very people that liberals say they want to help.

The fast-food executive rattles off a list of market suppressants, including uncertainty over labor costs, commodity and food prices, and taxes. But his bete noire is ObamaCare.

Mr. Puzder says his health-care consultants have calculated that it’s cheaper to offer his company’s 21,000 U.S. employees more expensive health-insurance plans than to drop them into state exchanges and pay the penalty for not covering what ObamaCare regulators deem are “essential health benefits.” Yet his consultants can’t figure out how many people will sign up under the new plans because the Health and Human Services Department hasn’t issued final regulations.

This interview – particularly the section on Obamacare and its emerging effects on business – is definitely worth a read if only for the direct experience, planning and reactions which the CEO relates. Unlike the hyperbole coming from many people on both sides, he’s hammering out the issues which he has had to deal with in the real world and what that has meant for his business model. He’s not saber rattling and threatening to lay people off and hire part timers to avoid health care costs, but he is stating that he is allowing full time workers to leave through attrition and replace three of them with four part timers.

He also deflates the idea of “McJobs” and how there are no benefits, as his company offers a limited benefit medical plan. But only 6% of his workers sign up for it because most of them are young and don’t see the need to pay for a health plan. These complicating factors make it far more of a burden to keep as many people working while complying with the new requirements of the law as it rolls out. He’s also looking at technology investments, such as replacing register workers with kiosks. It removes some of the human touch from the business, which he regrets, but “we don’t have to pay benefits for any of those things.”

The debate over Obamacare will remain a hot topic for some time to come until it’s fully implemented. In order to deal with it fairly, we’re going to need to listen to the actual people who are directly affected by it in terms of providing the coverage under discussion. Mr. Puzder would be a good place to start.


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Idiocracy is here (in the film all the cashiers at Carl’s Jr. are electronic)

22044 on June 15, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Yet his consultants can’t figure out how many people will sign up under the new plans because the Health and Human Services Department hasn’t issued final regulations.

Less than 6 months to go and they still haven’t defined this thing. Our government is truly an Idiocracy.

tominsd on June 15, 2013 at 7:13 PM

The debate over Obamacare will remain a hot topic for some time to come until it’s fully implemented.

So, there are actually people, such as Jazz Shaw, who have simply given up on America and believe that obamacare will be fully implemented? That’s pretty sad.

There are plenty of people who fully understand that obamacare will destroy America, and who are willing to do whatever it takes to prevent obamacare from being implemented – America is worth fighting for! NEVER SURRENDER!

CRUZ 2016!

Pork-Chop on June 15, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Well, I gotta say… I just love Obamacare. I am really looking forward to having my annual gyno exam at something that resembles the DMV… complete with gubmint workers. They are so smart, and caring and well trained at everything they do. And for all you men out there… just wait till Big Bertha gives you your prostate exams. You’re gonna love it!

Obamacare. It’s just gonna be fabulous!
/

Key West Reader on June 15, 2013 at 7:23 PM

So, there are actually people, such as Jazz Shaw, who have simply given up on America and believe that obamacare will be fully implemented? That’s pretty sad.

There are plenty of people who fully understand that obamacare will destroy America, and who are willing to do whatever it takes to prevent obamacare from being implemented – America is worth fighting for! NEVER SURRENDER!

CRUZ 2016!

Dude – its too late.

Even when we put “our guys” into place, they turn around and don’t do what it is that they promised that they would do.

I give you as evidence, amnesty.

The first time someone brings up repealing Obamacare in 2016 – the democrats are going to trod out some worthless dreg from the bottom of the gene pool that couldn’t do something for themselves if it meant their life…. OHHHHH and the tears will run about how little tommy wont be able to afford his asthma medicine, Tina won’t be able to afford the psoriasis cream that her neighbors have been buying her, and the faux outrage from stuffed up big city f*ckers who think that they know everything about – well – everything will label us “repealers” and “racists” and “you hate the poor” and every other tripe that you can think of.
At that moment, when that first ad hits the screen – you can guarantee that the waffles will start flipping and we’ll be stuck with it forever.

The democrats have convinced enough idiots that they don’t need to take care of themselves. The only solution is for the productive class to let it collapse on itself.

Personally, I’m investing in property in the South Pacific. F*ck this place.

Defenestratus on June 15, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Personally, I’m investing in property in the South Pacific. F*ck this place.

Defenestratus on June 15, 2013 at 7:35 PM

So you’re going for bikini part of this.

RickB on June 15, 2013 at 7:45 PM

‘We’re not the brand for people who eat nuts and bark,” CKE Restaurants CEO Andy Puzder, tells me without apology.

Sing it, brother.

The interview touches on how Puzder was tapped to turn the company around after a rough economic stretch, including his famous television ads featuring scantily clad models such as Nina Agdal and Kate Upton eating burgers.

Kate Upton? Bouncy bouncy bouncy.

Paul-Cincy on June 15, 2013 at 7:48 PM

I personally was SHOCKED at the naked and blatant SEXISM of those advertisements…they are demeaning to womyn and I feel the EEOC and the FTC and the Federal Government, in general, should DO SOMETHING to end them and make the company be more welcoming to womyn (Michelle Obama/Rick Santorum).

Take your pick.

JFKY on June 15, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Let it burn all the way down. I’ll make some popcorn.

Philly on June 15, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Dear Mr. Puzder,

Please invent the Obamacare burger: one bun, nothing in it.

Price it at $50,000.

Send them to the IRS and charge them for it.

ajacksonian on June 15, 2013 at 8:16 PM

remember the goal.

here’s a quote from W R Mead’s blog on ACA recently..from a CA ‘advocate’.

“In many cases, the networks are too limited and the prices are too high in the exchange,” said Jamie Court, president of Consumer Watchdog, a Santa Monica advocacy group. “Covered California doesn’t take the place of a government agency that has the power to force justification of the rates or deny them.

single payer is the end game. as barry always say, change is hard. Or, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

As we all know, the D’s and media will be Shocked that barry care didn’t work and the Only solution is full regulation of those evil profiteers who make Money off of the sick

maybe barry thought his barry care would last 10 to 15 years before single payer…but that would be 2025 or so. I’m thinking 2017…right after Hill is elected. She’ll clean the place up.

r keller on June 15, 2013 at 8:21 PM

(That’s the parent company of Carls’ Jr. and Hardee’s.)

No, that’s the parent company of Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s. See how the apostrophe precedes the “s” in both possessives? The restaurants are named for one guy named Carl, not a bunch of Carls.

-Language Martinet.

Send them to the IRS and charge them for it.

ajacksonian on June 15, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Don’t bother printing them a receipt; they’ll just lose it anyway

The Monster on June 15, 2013 at 8:21 PM

The Monster on June 15, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Claim that you would print it up with was stolen, and deduct a few million on taxes… works for the DNCC…

ajacksonian on June 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM

but, let me put a good word in here for single payer.

What we will have will be much worse. With the various databases and pattern recognition all, finally, tied together, the left can finally attain a mastery over ‘preventable’ diseases. Carl Jr’s worries will have just begun

r keller on June 15, 2013 at 8:32 PM

The debate over Obamacare will remain a hot topic for some time to come until it’s fully implemented.

Wrong.

The debate will only escalate and get hotter once it’s “fully implemented” — rather ambiguous as they’ll continually attempt to fix it with dictatorial, whimsical mandates — and the ignorant, moronic unicorn-lovers who historically supported it are forced to face its destructive and fatal realities and consequences …

ShainS on June 15, 2013 at 8:37 PM

The debate over Obamacare will remain a hot topic for some time to come until it’s fully implemented. In order to deal with it fairly, we’re going to need to listen to the actual people who are directly affected by it in terms of providing the coverage under discussion.

Wrong. Don’t deal with it fairly. Destroy it completely, and return our medical care to the public, to the free market, where it belongs.

Cast your vote ONLY for those who will sign a pledge to vote to overturn this monstrosity, and do everything legally you possible can to drive from elected office anyone who supports it. Boycott newspapers, magazines and companies that support it. Do whatever it takes to make it go away.

Government has no place dictating health care to us, or controlling access to medical care, anymore than it has controlling access to plumbers, carpenters or auto mechanics. Let the free markets decide what works, and let the people make their choices based upon what works for them.

TKindred on June 15, 2013 at 8:57 PM

But his bete noire is ObamaCare.

Racist!!!

/

VibrioCocci on June 15, 2013 at 9:00 PM

maybe barry thought his barry care would last 10 to 15 years before single payer…but that would be 2025 or so. I’m thinking 2017…right after Hill is elected. She’ll clean the place up.

Or Michelle Obama is elected. Don’t you think that that’s what Obama and all his sycophants are salivating over? Just you watch over the next few months. Michelle has been making some more substantive speeches at big-money, big-influence venues and the end game isn’t to futher Barry’s agenda, per se, but to get her into the WH so as to keep their dynasty alive. They consider themselves the hears apparent to Camelot and everything they are doing is to lay the groundwork for a political dynasty that will gain control of the country, and convert it to the living h3ll of socialism, with them running the show.

TKindred on June 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM

“But he also gets down to the serious business of what worries him in terms of keeping the firm on a profitable track.”

..he’s had me hooked ever since he cast that blond dolly in the tight blue dress showing up at her clueless boyfriend’s house expecting a steak dinner and finding out the slob is going to take her to Carl’s for one of their six dollar burgers.

I am hoping the dewy-eyed ingenue will jilt that stiff so I can take her to Ruths Crist or Outback and feed her a proper meal.

The War Planner on June 15, 2013 at 9:04 PM

..for the rest of you horn dogs, her name is Tamara Brown.

The War Planner on June 15, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Or Michelle Obama is elected.
TKindred on June 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Dear God.

justltl on June 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM

When Barry the Destroyer gets his ass handed to him by Russia because of his no-strategy-feckless-and-toothless-support Libya policy and becomes the laughingstock of the world, maybe we can THEN get Obamacare repealed because his former henchmen in Congress will not want to be associated with him.

/I can dream, can’t I>

landlines on June 16, 2013 at 12:17 AM

So, there are actually people, such as Jazz Shaw, who have simply given up on America and believe that obamacare will be fully implemented? That’s pretty sad.

Reality sucks sometimes. Any shot at getting rid of Obamacare ended with the 2012 election. We’re stuck with it now until either the system collapses or they come up with something worse. Living in denial ain’t gonna change that.

There are plenty of people who fully understand that obamacare will destroy America, and who are willing to do whatever it takes to prevent obamacare from being implemented..

Pork-Chop

Too bad we don’t have 60 of them in the senate, an unstoppable majority of them in the house, and 1 in the White House, because that’s what it will take to get rid of Obamacare. By the time that happens again, we’ll have full blown government health care and white people will be mowing the lawns of Mexicans for a few pesos.

xblade on June 16, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Well, I gotta say… I just love Obamacare. I am really looking forward to having my annual gyno exam at something that resembles the DMV… complete with gubmint workers. They are so smart, and caring and well trained at everything they do. And for all you men out there… just wait till Big Bertha gives you your prostate exams. You’re gonna love it!

Key West Reader on June 15, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Save time and have that done while walking through airport security.

Shy Guy on June 16, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Or Michelle Obama is elected.

TKindred on June 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM

That makes Putin and Russia sound attractive.

Shy Guy on June 16, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Kate Upton? Bouncy bouncy bouncy.

Paul-Cincy on June 15, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Okay, Paul, the news is so awful lately that I have to say…I needed this laugh this morning.

Inside every grown man is a sixteen year old boy imagining Kate Upton on a trampoline.

DOWN, you fellers, DOWN!!! ROFL

Grace_is_sufficient on June 16, 2013 at 7:09 AM

. He’s also looking at technology investments, such as replacing register workers with kiosks. It removes some of the human touch from the business, which he regrets, but “we don’t have to pay benefits for any of those things.”

Oops! He slipped and revealed the way Obamacare is being used to protect decisions to lower compensation and benefits in the name of technologization. This kind of stuff is inevitable even without Obamacare because it helps a company’s bottom line. And that is *ALL* they care about.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2013 at 7:10 AM

Okay, Paul, the news is so awful lately that I have to say…I needed this laugh this morning.

Inside every grown man is a sixteen year old boy imagining Kate Upton on a trampoline.

DOWN, you fellers, DOWN!!! ROFL

Grace_is_sufficient on June 16, 2013 at 7:09 AM

lol ^5!

I may be in a very small minority of heterosexual males, but I have never found Kate to be all that attractive. She has a nice chest, I like her hair, she’s cute, and she seems genuinely sweet, but she looks stupid – that sort of dumbness is not sexy to me at all..

Anti-Control on June 16, 2013 at 7:20 AM

Oops! He slipped and revealed the way Obamacare is being used to protect decisions to lower compensation and benefits in the name of technologization. This kind of stuff is inevitable even without Obamacare because it helps a company’s bottom line. And that is *ALL* they care about.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2013 at 7:10 AM

You reveal your selfish, anti-capitalistic side very well here…

Whose happiness do you believe business owners should ultimately pursue: their own, or that of those whom they employ? If you were to say the former, you aren’t so stupid to think that anyone here would believe you, are you?

Anti-Control on June 16, 2013 at 7:30 AM

Anti-Control on June 16, 2013 at 7:20 AM

As a heterosexual female, I have no idea who she is or what she looks like, but when I “Binged” her, it said model and actress… Movies: The Three Stooges…

Fallon on June 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Oops! He slipped and revealed the way Obamacare is being used to protect decisions to lower compensation and benefits in the name of technologization. This kind of stuff is inevitable even without Obamacare because it helps a company’s bottom line. And that is *ALL* they care about.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2013 at 7:10 AM

A business isn’t established and run to employ people. That is not its purpose.

Employment of human resource capital (aka employees) is a means to an end.

If the goverment steps in and forces that human resource to be too expensive in order reach that end – then the means are changed and the business continues.

Things get hairy when feckless idiots like you and your worthless, low life, selfish, condescending, idiotic ilk decide that YOU have the right to dictate to business owners, CEO’s and shareholders how to run their bloody business.

Go slip in a puddle of AIDS.

Defenestratus on June 16, 2013 at 8:45 AM

As a heterosexual female, I have no idea who she is or what she looks like, but when I “Binged” her, it said model and actress… Movies: The Three Stooges…

Fallon on June 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM

LOL

:)

Anti-Control on June 16, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Our government is truly an Idiocracy.

tominsd on June 15, 2013 at 7:13 PM

And think of what this says about the voters who put it there.

Quartermaster on June 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Hubby actually worked at a Hardee’s when he was a teen. He said he learned more about business there than in college. He learned that it wasn’t just product (hamburgers) that cost money. They inventoried every cup lid and utensil every night. He learned about productivity (managing man-hour costs). Workers paid for any food or drink they consumed on breaks (unlike McDonalds). Nothing was “free,” everything bore a cost. The success of the business depended on this philosophy and work ethic. It prepared him for life and the business world. This is what is being lost on the large numbers of today’s unemployed youth.

Fallon on June 16, 2013 at 10:25 AM

The success of the business depended on this philosophy and work ethic. It prepared him for life and the business world. This is what is being lost on the large numbers of today’s unemployed youth.

Fallon on June 16, 2013 at 10:25 AM

The story goes, when Obama worked at Baskin Robbins, he gave away free scoops to his friends. Consistent with everything we know about him today.

Ed Henry, on CNN with Candy Crowley:

“CROWLEY: [Y]ou’ve had time for a little sleuthing into the background of—in the high school background, in particular, talking to some of the people who knew President Barack Obama when he was there. What did you find out?

HENRY: …He was on the basketball team that won the state championship. They knew him as Barry back then. And a couple of funny things [...], his high school classmates were telling that me that a young Barry Obama used to scoop ice cream at Baskin-Robbins. They said on the side, he used to slip them some free ice cream and frozen yogurt. I sort of have coaxed it out of them because they didn’t want to acknowledge it first. And I said, look, the statute of limitations is past, it’s been 30 years now. They laughed and said, “OK, he gave us free ice cream.”

Blatant stealing and giving to friends what’s not his. So his friends will look on him as a good guy.

Paul-Cincy on June 16, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Kate Upton? Bouncy bouncy bouncy.

Paul-Cincy on June 15, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Okay, Paul, the news is so awful lately that I have to say…I needed this laugh this morning.

Inside every grown man is a sixteen year old boy imagining Kate Upton on a trampoline.

DOWN, you fellers, DOWN!!! ROFL

Grace_is_sufficient on June 16, 2013 at 7:09 AM

If she wasn’t so into bouncing, it wouldn’t be so fascinating to watch.

Her uncle is Congressman Fred Upton (R-MI). They asked him about her, him being her “Uncle Fred”. And he protested loudly and defensively, with some humor, saying “That’s what she calls me! Uncle Fred!”.

Paul-Cincy on June 16, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Blatant stealing and giving to friends what’s not his. So his friends will look on him as a good guy.

Paul-Cincy on June 16, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Nice bookend story. This really illustrates two completely different political philosophies beautifully.

Fallon on June 16, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Well Jazz, I’m pissed. Where are the follow up pictures of the Carl’s hamburger eating blonde? I like your writing but you owe it to us to show a video clip of her!

inspectorudy on June 16, 2013 at 12:09 PM

The debate over Obamacare will remain a hot topic for some time to come until it’s fully implemented.

I would think it’ll be being cursed for decades… until those of US who remember what pre-ObamaCare was like and/or who resent BigGov death panels are all too old/ too dead to be heard… Or, unless the Dictator and his Pukettes make it illegal to talk it down.

RalphyBoy on June 16, 2013 at 1:30 PM

BOHICA…….need we say more…..

crosshugger on June 16, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Or Michelle Obama is elected. Don’t you think that that’s what Obama and all his sycophants are salivating over? Just you watch over the next few months. Michelle has been making some more substantive speeches at big-money, big-influence venues and the end game isn’t to futher Barry’s agenda, per se, but to get her into the WH so as to keep their dynasty alive. They consider themselves the hears apparent to Camelot and everything they are doing is to lay the groundwork for a political dynasty that will gain control of the country, and convert it to the living h3ll of socialism, with them running the show.

TKindred on June 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Yep. That’s why spawn of Satan recently told billy jeff “yeah, about that endorsement of shillery I prommised…I’m thinkin’ I may not be able to do that now, come to think of it (holds knife behind back)

rottenrobbie on June 16, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Interesting that Buttcrack Oprompta once famously said that kiosks and ATMs are to blame for job loss. With this Obamageddon coming (Obama”care”) – he will be rendered truthful. Will miracles never cease?

PJ Emeritus on June 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM

And the blonde in the cover photo is none other than Paris Hilton, guys

PJ Emeritus on June 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM

just wait till Big Bertha gives you your prostate exams. You’re gonna love it!

Key West Reader on June 15, 2013 at 7:23 PM

I get one every year from the IRS.

Save time and have that done while walking through airport security.

Shy Guy on June 16, 2013 at 12:58 AM

And, yes, I get a supplemental exam when I fly.

GWB on June 17, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Oops! He slipped and revealed the way Obamacare is being used to protect decisions to lower compensation and benefits in the name of technologization. This kind of stuff is inevitable even without Obamacare because it helps a company’s bottom line. And that is *ALL* they care about.

libfreeordie on June 16, 2013 at 7:10 AM

Wait, so a bunch of young people being kicked out of jobs because of the idiotic regulations in your hero President’s partisan shafting of the nation is an example of Obamacare protecting anyone, how?

Academic boils like you are the worst people on earth. You never have to produce anything, your idiotic theories never get field tested in a reality where you are punished when you are invariably wrong, and you disdain the people that actually have to live with the consequences of the decisions they make.

But all you have is hate, scorn, and cheap schoolyard reasoning. Standard leftist.

BKennedy on June 17, 2013 at 3:40 PM