Senate kills Grassley’s border-security amendment — with all four Republican “Gang of Eight” members in support

posted at 2:01 pm on June 13, 2013 by Allahpundit

Grassley’s amendment was dead on arrival in the Judiciary Committee and it was dead on arrival on the floor of the Senate today. Why? Because it did the one thing Republican border hawks Must Not Do as part of this grand, glorious compromise on immigration: It demanded that the border be effectively secured before any form of legalization, including first-stage probationary legalization, is granted to illegals. That would be a true enforcement “trigger” for amnesty, something that would warrant a second look at the bill. But of course, Democrats will never, ever agree to it; they have no more faith in DHS efficiently securing the border than you do, and thus there’s no way they’re going to make legalization contingent upon it. That’s why even Rubio, since the very beginning of this fiasco, has insisted that probationary legalization come before border security. The bill would be dead if he didn’t make that concession, and he’d rather have a terrible bill that betrays his phony promises of “security first” than have no bill at all.

That’s also why he, McCain, Graham, and Flake — the four GOP members of the Gang of Eight — all voted yes on Reid’s motion to table Grassley’s amendment, along with devout RINO Lisa Murkowski. They were the only Republican votes that Reid got, and as it turns out, he didn’t need a single one of them. A motion to table requires only 51 votes to pass and Reid had 52 Democrats on his side. The Republican “Gang” members conceivably could have voted no to try to show conservatives that they were striking a blow for tighter border security, even though they knew their votes would mean nothing and that Grassley’s amendment would fail anyway. They didn’t, because the Gang’s vowed to stick together on tough votes as a show of solidarity in the name of preserving the horrible “compromise” they’ve struck. They’re now past the point, it seems, of even making a pretense of border enforcement for the benefit of angry righties. There’s something to be said for honesty, I guess.

Reid’s move infuriated opponents of the bill, who said their right to keep talking while they worked to build a coalition for their proposal had been stripped away without fair warning.

“This so-called open and fair process is a farce,” the top Judiciary Committee Republican, Charles E. Grassley, called out just before the roll call. “This is a very provocative act.”…

For Reid, the power to call for tabling motions gives him additional leverage to move the debate along at a relatively brisk pace — and with solid odds of keeping the bill to his liking. He can make ideas he views as poison pills go away with 51 votes, while the other side will need 60 votes to add language viewed as killer amendments by the Obama administration, the gang of eight and the coalition of business and labor groups pushing the measure.

Rubio will, I’m guessing, defend his vote to table Grassley’s amendment in two ways. One: He’ll try to pander to conservatives by driving a hard bargain on other hot-button stuff to distract them from the fact that he caved on allowing legalization before border security. His last pander was to demand stricter English-language requirements for illegals; today’s pander is to threaten Democrats that he’ll walk away from the bill if Pat Leahy’s amendment granting rights to the spouses of gay illegals passes. The fact that he’s willing to make a lame, boutique issue like that a dealbreaker but not the fact that Democrats refuse to secure the border before granting illegals probationary legalization tells you exactly how seriously he’s taking this bill from a policy standpoint. It’s an insult to serious border hawks, but as DrewM says, it’ll help Rubio with social cons in Iowa in 2016. And that’s what really matters, Rubio’s endless pronouncements that he’s only doing this because it’s the “right thing to do” notwithstanding.

Two: He’ll end up either backing Cornyn’s amendment demanding tighter border security before the second stage of legalization (the green-card process) or, if Democrats give him a firm no on that, he’ll cave on that too and then try to put together an even weaker border amendment of his own as a substitute. Sounds like that’s what’s in motion now, with Rubio working on a compromise while our old friend McCain tries to kill Cornyn’s bill before it even gets rolling:

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is beginning to speak out forcefully against the Cornyn language, bombarding the Texas Republican with critical comments from the Senate floor. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is lobbying other Republicans on potential compromises. And Rubio, although he said Wednesday that the Cornyn plan “dramatically improves the bill,” is working on a package that others in the Gang of Eight hope could emerge as an alternative…

Rubio, in an interview with POLITICO this week, would not describe his work with Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) and others as an “alternative” to the Cornyn plan.

“We certainly have ideas, and we’re sharing them with people, but if others want to take the lead on securing the border, that’s good,” Rubio said. “We’re in a game of addition. … The border security elements of the bill will have to be improved. The only issue is what is going to do that.”

Cornyn’s bill is better than the status quo but see Mickey Kaus for why it too is basically a fudge on real border security, beginning with the fact that it signs on to the Gang’s “legalization before security” scheme rather than Grassley’s “security first” proposal. And so now we wait: Will Democrats cave, allowing Cornyn’s ineffective but salable-to-conservatives border amendment into the bill? Or will they muscle Rubio into quitting on Cornyn and offering something that’s even more watered down? The fate of … nothing, really, depends on the answer.


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I read where Rubio’s bill permanently funds 10 “community organizations” to handle all the assimilation of illegals and those that follow.

They’ll get their Welcome to the Democratic Party at the border.

BuckeyeSam on June 13, 2013 at 2:49 PM

As far as I can tell, the Time of Death was officially 2008.

faraway on June 13, 2013 at 2:36 PM

No. That was when the GOP went into coma. They were brought out of it in 2010 by the Tea Party (because there was no other possible representation available) after which the GOP determined that they didn’t like having been, merely, in a coma and really wanted to be dead, so they launched a frontal assault on the Tea Party and, when that didn’t do the suicide trick for them they went back to the tried and true “treasonous aiding and abetting of illegals”. I believe the GOP’s current sepuku attempt will be successful, not that it really matters much at this point as we all now live in the American Socialist Superstate, anyway. America, as it was known, is dead and buried.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 13, 2013 at 2:50 PM

It’s an insult to serious border hawks, but as DrewM says, it’ll help Rubio with social cons in Iowa in 2016.

Doesn’t say much about the perceived intelligence of Iowa social cons, does it?

Register independent temporarily and let them know your discontent.

A significant number change in party rolls will send a message to our inept establishment leadership. You don’t have to leave permanently, just send a message with a temporary change.

Chubbs65 on June 13, 2013 at 2:46 PM

The Eagles song, ‘Already Gone’ suddenly springs to mind.

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Senators tell the Healer to go away. They’ll kill the land first.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 2:51 PM

OT: Palin is back

faraway on June 13, 2013 at 2:46 PM

What does this mean ?

Back from where ?

gh on June 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM

The Eagles song, ‘Already Gone’ suddenly springs to mind.

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Tell everyone applicable that you know then… we need to hit them where it hurts metaphorically.

Chubbs65 on June 13, 2013 at 2:54 PM

What does this mean ?

Back from where ?

gh on June 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Back on FoxNews. For those who still give a rat’s ass.

Doughboy on June 13, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Senators tell the Healer to go away. They’ll kill the land first.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 2:51 PM

I could only get through the first three paragraphs on that before I felt like picking my monitor up and smashing it against the wall. There are no words for what I think should happen to Flake and the rest of those moronic traitors – Barky buddies as they seem happy to announce they are, now. Those fvckers are the lowest slime on Earth. I still feel like tossing my monitor against something (Flake’s head would be a nice backstop for it).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 13, 2013 at 2:55 PM

In leiu of border security, how about just enforcing existing law? It is currently illegal to employ an illegal alien. Enforce it. Make the penalties severe. Require (not just encourage) the use of E-Verify.

Only then should there be any legalization, and then just as guest workers, no path to citizenship, and no entitlement goodies. Work or go home.

iurockhead on June 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Ayotte peeled away form the Gang on this, which makes me wonder if she’s getting pushback back home from her gun vote and cloture vote or she just did this for show, and is a lock for the final shamnesty cloture vote. Sadly, I think it’s the latter.

Wethal on June 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM

She’s getting a lot of heat on this. I hope she comes to her senses and just reads the bill. 115,000 H1-Bs? Seriously?

There’s no high tech shortage. It’s a MYTH:

heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/itaa.html

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9215405/H_1B_pay_and_its_impact_on_U.S._workers_is_aired_by_Congress

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/04/the-myth-of-americas-tech-talent-shortage/275319/

dogsoldier on June 13, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Back on FoxNews. For those who still give a rat’s ass.

Doughboy on June 13, 2013 at 2:54 PM

I give a rat’s ass. Not about Fox though. Sadly, I think her time has come and gone. She should have run in 2012.

gh on June 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Heads to esplode, soon.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Why, oh Lord, do we not have a viable conservative/libertarian third party?

FiveG on June 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM

The Republican Party has become as opportunistic and unprincipled as the Democrat Party by pandering to big business that salivates over cheap labor at the expense of legal Americans. Why in the world is so much time and money and bipartisianship being wasted on criminals instead of Jobs and the Economy? If this thing passes I will no longer support Republicans. And if they think I will come around because they are the only game in town, they are sadly, sadly mistaken.

Oracleforhire on June 13, 2013 at 3:02 PM

pretty much done voting for Republicans … in any race … pretty much done voting, and sending money … f*** it, L.I.B.

M240H on June 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM

I give a rat’s ass. Not about Fox though. Sadly, I think her time has come and gone. She should have run in 2012.

gh on June 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM

I’d care if she was willing to use her influence within the base to actually make a difference. Where the hell is she on this amnesty debacle? She could rally people against the bill if she wanted to.

Doughboy on June 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM

I believe that anyone who is here illegally should never be allowed to remain in this country, much less to become a citizen. Having said that, if someone who is illegally here leaves and then requests legal re-entry, he or she should be allowed to go to the back of the line (but then be required to explain why his or her previous illegal status should not disallow re-entry). Anything short of the above is “amnesty”. Rubio et al seem to believe that by “no amnesty” we mean ‘no penalty’, when we actually mean anything that allows a person now here illegally to remain here legally (regardless of the hoops they are made to jump through) is “amnesty”, end of discussion.

Knott Buyinit on June 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Why, oh Lord, do we not have a viable conservative/libertarian third party?

FiveG on June 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM

The system is rigged for two parties. Delenda est GOP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est

gh on June 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Doughboy on June 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM

She could veto it had she run.

gh on June 13, 2013 at 3:06 PM

I read where Rubio’s bill permanently funds 10 “community organizations” to handle all the assimilation of illegals and those that follow.

They’ll get their Welcome to the Democratic Party at the border.

BuckeyeSam on June 13, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Slush fund for ACORN’s current manifestation, as well as LaRaza.

Wethal on June 13, 2013 at 3:09 PM

So Mexico won the war, then?

OldEnglish on June 13, 2013 at 2:21 PM

They may be generous in victory and let us keep Alaska.

VorDaj on June 13, 2013 at 3:11 PM

In the meanwhile “God damn America

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 3:15 PM

I read where Rubio’s bill permanently funds 10 “community organizations” to handle all the assimilation of illegals and those that follow.

Of course. The Rubio amnesty bill was written by La Raza, so you know they’re going to get a boatload of cash.

They’ll be setting up seminars so that all the illegals, both current and future millions, know all their “rights” under the law. They’ll teach them important things like where to buy their fake documents to submit with their amnesty applications, how to register to vote, how to get food stamps, welfare, subsidized housing, Obamacare subsidies, etc.

They’ll also teach the new hordes of illegals useful tricks like how to use the “get out of detention free” card that is included in the Rubio amnesty bill. The bill says that any illegal alien who claims to be covered under any U.S. amnesty program must immediately be released from detention — no proof required that the illegal is actually covered, or that the illegal has even applied for amnesty. Just say the magic words “I’m covered” and U.S. law enforcement is required to release them.

Also, La Raza will be running those “English language classes” (wink, wink) that illegal aliens will be required to be enrolled in before they can get their U.S. citizenship. For just a small fee, La Raza will provide illegal aliens with a fancy “certificate of enrollment” so that they can meet the “proof” requirements of “speaking English.” (Because you didn’t really think they were going to bother learning English, did you? LOL. You probably also thought they were going to pay back taxes and fines! Hahahahahahahaha.).

AZCoyote on June 13, 2013 at 3:15 PM

I believe that anyone who is here illegally should never be allowed to remain in this country, much less to become a citizen. Having said that, if someone who is illegally here leaves and then requests legal re-entry, he or she should be allowed to go to the back of the line (but then be required to explain why his or her previous illegal status should not disallow re-entry). Anything short of the above is “amnesty”. Rubio et al seem to believe that by “no amnesty” we mean ‘no penalty’, when we actually mean anything that allows a person now here illegally to remain here legally (regardless of the hoops they are made to jump through) is “amnesty”, end of discussion.

Knott Buyinit on June 13, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Unless I am sadly mistaken, I believe, in a nut shell, that is current law.

Sadly.

Tenwheeler on June 13, 2013 at 3:15 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 13, 2013 at 2:55 PM

*very angry, very detailed, very ban-worthy and fascist-federal-government-attracting post deleted by author*

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 3:19 PM


They can paint it anyway they want but it is 1986 and Amnesty all over again. They are all a bunch of liars

HAGGS99 on June 13, 2013 at 3:20 PM

LIARS! PALIN HAS NOT MENTIONED THAT SHE’S RETURNING TO FOXNEWS.

BTW GOOD FOR PALIN TO STAY OUT WITH IMMIGRATION ISSUE. AFTER ALL IT’S BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY THE “BRIGHTEST ELECTABLE GOP STARS” OF 2016!

Plus where was Romney when Obamacare was being cooked in 2009?heh!

TheAlamos on June 13, 2013 at 3:22 PM

His last pander was to demand stricter English-language requirements for illegals

Right. Or else, what? They get deported?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM

I was cautiously optimistic, especially considering the alternative. But when Mike Murphy swooningly called the guy a “Rock star” and a great speaker, warning bells started going off.

Dongemaharu on June 13, 2013 at 3:22 PM

So Mexico won the war, then?

OldEnglish on June 13, 2013 at 2:21 PM

If someone came here from another planet, having learned English from decades old radio broadcasts, they would think we had been at war with Mexico and Mexico won. Not won as big as we did against the Japaneses where there was an unconditional surrender, but pretty close to it, and we ere now negotiating the almost unconditional surrender terms.

VorDaj on June 13, 2013 at 3:24 PM

In the meanwhile “God damn America“

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 3:15 PM

I believe that’s basically a work in progress, before our very eyes.

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 3:28 PM

BTW GOOD FOR PALIN TO STAY OUT WITH IMMIGRATION ISSUE.

TheAlamos on June 13, 2013 at 3:22 PM

She should fight it like the plague. It is that on the land.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Many small business owners are Republicans, and because they benefit from cheap labor, they support amnesty and loose borders.

Small business owners are not a huge voting bloc, but they do donate to the party, and they have clout.

Bottom line, it’s not just capriciousness of these 4 senators. They know their constituencies.

alice on June 13, 2013 at 3:34 PM

How could we have been defeated by the Mexican army? We were not. Rubio and the Gangbang Eight sabotaged all our weapons and poisoned our water supply.

VorDaj on June 13, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Sheila Jackson has company

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Landrieu, who represents Louisiana in the U.S. Senate, was trying to undermine the amendment Sen. John Thune (R-SD) offered. In doing so, she tried to argue Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was more qualified to talk about border issues than Thune because McCain represents Arizona.

“A smart fence, which is what Senator McCain and I want to build–since he’s from Arizona, I think he knows more about this than the Senator from South Dakota who only has a border with Canada and that is quite different,” Landrieu said.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 3:38 PM

I would vote for Obama before I would vote for Rubio. Obama stabs America in the front. Rubio stabs America in the back.

Rubio hates America even more than Obama does.

Hannity can go to hell. Levin and Limbaugh can go with him.

VorDaj on June 13, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Of course they don’t wont border security first, they don’t want it at all; if they did they would have passed the requisite legislation long ago. These are low-life lying con men who know that once they get the legalization of illegals up front, they get it all sooner or later – and probably sooner – and never mind the lag on border security which you can bet will occur. The suckered USA will become even a bigger magnet and the will gradually turn into a sort of northern Mexico as wave after wave of new immigrants cross over having lots of babies and demand the same treatment – and they’ll get it because, as we will be ceaselessly told, to deny it “is not who we are.”

And as for blacks, well it’s back to rear of the bus while looking for work that the Mexicans will get because in the early stages employees won’t have the expense of Obama Care with them. And there will be no corresponding Latino guilt to replace the well-milked white guilt, the brothers can be sure of that. When that powerful Latino block vote develops it’ll be looking after its own.

Chessplayer on June 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM

That they refused this amendment proves that they have no intention of securing the borders. If they were truly going to secure the borders in quick fashion it would be a done deal, secure the borders quickly and permanently and move on to “legalization” and more.

The only reason this amendment to secure the borders could fail is because Rubio and his buddy Schumer have no intention of securing the borders!

RJL on June 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Will just one of these Republican idiots come forward and state that they are being blackmailed by the administration because they have some IRS stuff on them? Just one? There can be no other reason why supposed Republicans wouldn’t have bailed on this turkey of a bill before now.

News to the gang of 8 Republicans, your careers are over anyway so just come forward. Approach Issa for immunity if you have to but come forward and state you are being blackmailed.

Otherwise I have to believe that these RINOs are either Dem plants or stupid.

neyney on June 13, 2013 at 3:47 PM

To all the petulant Democrats demanding ice cream before vegetables. How about you eat your damn vegetables whether you EVER get any ice cream or NOT! Seriously, why do we tolerate these infantile tantrums???

CapnObvious on June 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM

There’s no high tech shortage. It’s a MYTH:

Its no myth. There is a real shortage of high tech workers……available for the pay and benefits the high tech industry wants to offer. Americans actually expect a decent salary and corresponding benefits. Immigrants or those here on temporary visas can be had for much less, from what I understand.

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 3:50 PM

A smart fence, which is what Senator McCain and I want to build–since he’s from Arizona, I think he knows more about this than the Senator from South Dakota who only has a border with Canada and that is quite different,” Landrieu said.

Its a common fallacy among our leftist in office that North Dakota is thought of as a Canadian province.

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Seriously, why do we tolerate these infantile tantrums???

Probably because we’ve been too polite. Also if we treated them as they should be treated, we’d be arrested, tried, convicted and put away. They have gubmint on their side.

/s

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Back on FoxNews. For those who still give a rat’s ass.

Doughboy on June 13, 2013 at 2:54 PM

I give a rat’s ass. Not about Fox though. Sadly, I think her time has come and gone. She should have run in 2012.

gh on June 13, 2013 at 3:01 PM

So Ailes called her a “number of times in recent weeks”

UnF*ckingbelievable.

Sorry for those folks who feel “her time has come and gone”

hardly…..the NUMBER ONE American politician Outside of DC

BAR NONE. Truly inspiring to some of us….like heroin to others.

gh, you say she should’ve run in 2012….tell me this.

In light of our current political Superfund Site, AKA DC.

has Anyone’s time come and gone???

ToddPA on June 13, 2013 at 4:02 PM

If Edward Snowden is guilty of treason, then so are these eight people.

And we know where they are.

MadisonConservative on June 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM

I have far more contempt for McCain, Graham, Rubio and Flake than I do for Schumer, Menendez, Durbin and Bennett.

Rubio, Flake and McCain all campaigned either against amnesty of for stronger border security in their last senate races.

bw222 on June 13, 2013 at 4:18 PM

The only was to get through to the Republicans, I think, is to make a serious threat to dump them.

We should get together a pledge of conservatives who will not vote for any Republican ever again if amnesty passes – and start warming up challengers where possible.

Nothing less will have any effect.

Yes, this means we’d get many more Democrats until a new opposition party could be created, but frankly there is little difference between Republicans and Democrats right now anyway.

18-1 on June 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

A couple of points, first, the Republicans are all squishy because they lost the last election. It’s pretty simple, they can’t figure out how they lost House Seats, Senate Seats and the election, to a guy who doesn’t know how to administrate and a Senate that can’t pass a budget. They’ve been told it’s Hispanics, by their pollsters, and they believe it. What they should be doing is nailing the IRS to a poll because of their activity before the election.

As far as Palin goes, once again, look at the IRS. One thing you can’t argue is the IRS tactics eliminated a lot of money from the election, that would have opposed Obama. That was the intent and it was very successful. Don’t think that one donation, which a witness talked about, was the only one. I believe Palin held out and there wasn’t a batch of money out there like there would have been, without the IRS interference. Yes sir, the Supreme Court made Citizen’s United the law and the IRS nullified it.

bflat879 on June 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 13, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Unfortunately, the hard work by the Tea Party and other conservatives backfired somewhat as Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy assumed leadership positions and people like Marco Rubio and Renee Ellmers, who were elected because of conservative efforts, became establishment Republicans.

bw222 on June 13, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Madness, sick madness — and it just doesn’t stop.

The GOP is so finished.

rrpjr on June 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM

I’m not sure this is really anything to get all worked up about. Remember, there is still the House that would have to approve all this. Worst case scenario, nothing gets passed and the Republicans lose the Hispanic vote. Oh wait, that’s already happened.

DDay on June 13, 2013 at 4:38 PM

What does this mean ?

Back from where ?

gh on June 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Back from Joan Rivers’ house?

/celebrity wife swap

Ward Cleaver on June 13, 2013 at 4:44 PM

The Beltway types are now the ruling class, and we’re the peasants.

Ward Cleaver on June 13, 2013 at 4:45 PM

What SHOULD happen is the remaining conservative Republican congressmen quit the GOP and team up to form a new party. By the 2016 cycle they will have a larger base than the GOP and will steal an awful lot of Dems too.

Count Mahdrof on June 13, 2013 at 4:46 PM

“Earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty.”- @marcorubio 10/24/10 http://t.co/HmH5IqYO7M

— DrewM (@DrewMTips) June 12, 2013

Resist We Much on June 13, 2013 at 4:46 PM

House leadership just announced a “special conference” on immigration for July 10, offering members a closed-door session to talk about the GOP’s strategy on an issue that is deeply dividing the party.

The move comes after Steve King had gathered the necessary signatures to force such a session and discussed his strategy on the issue with National Review Online. There has been increasing scrutiny on whether Speaker John Boehner would be willing to pass an immigration bill in violation of the so-called “Hastert rule,” which requires the support of the “majority of the majority.”

Since successfully coming to agreement on a short-term debt-ceiling strategy at the January House Republican retreat in Williamsburg, Va., House leaders have increasingly sought to give rank-and-file members ample opportunity to provide input in such settings.

Regarding whether King had forced the session, a leadership aide said the special conference had been in the works for “several weeks.”

NRO a few minutes ago

Wethal on June 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM

It’s an insult to serious border hawks, but as DrewM says, it’ll help Rubio with social cons in Iowa in 2016. And that’s what really matters, Rubio’s endless pronouncements that he’s only doing this because it’s the “right thing to do” notwithstanding.

Allah

Once again, AP nails the tone. I have become so enamored of this scathing view of politician/vermin that I read Rubio’s statement elsewhere and laughed out loud at his transparent, pandering fakery.

He sucks bad.

Jaibones on June 13, 2013 at 4:59 PM

That’s why even Rubio, since the very beginning of this fiasco, has insisted that probationary legalization come before border security.

While telling everyone who would listen that he would walk away if border security doesn’t come first.

xblade on June 13, 2013 at 5:10 PM

The first Amnesty turned the once golden State of California into a Democrat control 3rd world Mexican whore house broken toilet…

If this thing passes, the rest of the Country will soon follow, and it will happen rapidly, because the instant the illegals get the immediate “guest worker” visa, it is off to the DMV and Motor Voter.

With all the lies that the government tells us on a daily basis, it makes me wonder if the backlash against this tripe is being suppressed by the media.

Mr. Monday knows that if this passes, the GOP will be destroyed, so opposition cannot be allowed.

No doubt he is using the full force and weight of the government to push this through.

It is paradise, no?

Seven Percent Solution on June 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM

The GOP is ruined either way. If they pass this bill, say goodbye to the base for 2014, nevermind their party’s future and the country. If the bill is defeated, they’ve opened themselves to the Left’s charges of racism for implicitly acknowledging that the bill had merit (based on their fractured support) but then letting it lose.

It’s the same pattern on everything. Stupidity on steroids. All because they have no courage of convictions (rather “or convictions”).

Here’s a radical idea, GOP. Try uniting behind principle (the kind your base backs 100%) to smash and smear these execrable legislative monstrosities proposed by the democrats and instead propose your own bills designed to really help people and the country, and then actually fight for them. You know what that means — “fight”? I don’t mean posture on the fence to soothe the base while lying to their faces as you try to play the media which can’t be played and is NEVER fooled and will ALWAYS hate you anyway). But actually fight. Try truly uniting behind one of these fights, go on every interview show and bombard the airwaves and social media with attacks against the pandering, demagogic, illogical, socially destructive and racist — that’s right, RACIST! — democrats who see minorities as dumb blocs of voters rather than real individual Americans who care about a truly common good. See what happens. See the people get behind you. Watch the tide begin to turn.

But it’s beyond you, isn’t it. You’re terrified at even the prospect. You fight for nothing (except against those few in your party who actually call out your craven bullsh*t. Then you really show your fangs!). The democrats unite 100% behind every one of their grotesque bills EVERY TIME but you can’t stand up for anything if it means incurring media scorn. You make me sick.

rrpjr on June 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM

LOL that geography expert Mary Landrieu’s kid just got a DUI.

This was the kid that acted up at her first Senate swearing in. Maybe if she and her husband had bothered more about raising their family, they could have produced a decent citizen instead of a drunk.

Looking forward to news of the Sasha Obama sex tape. If you understand what I’m saying.

Happy Nomad on June 13, 2013 at 5:30 PM

I am listening to the House subcommittee hearing on this immigration bill, and it makes me sick. On the one hand, I’m thrilled to hear some of our Repub Reps and witnesses stand up for saving America; on the other hand, it is infuriating that we’re having to fight against Mexicans and against Congress for our country. A La Rasa woman is testifying; why?

It’s all unbelievable. Really, unbelievable!

MustLoveBlogs on June 13, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Really why even have a border lets just have a free for all and get it over with.

ldbgcoleman on June 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM

As if Charlie Crist wouldn’t vote for support amnesty.

Rubio is a liar. Crist is, too.

Resist We Much

Without the brown-skinned republican romeo pimping the legislation, there probably wouldn’t even be an amnesty to vote for. Crist is orange, not brown, lol.

Well the good news is that McCain didn’t submit a resolution to declare war on our neighbors to the North and South. That’s his usual style of problem solving and diplomacy.

MJBrutus

Instead, he declared war on America, so nothing has changed.

xblade on June 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Rubio is a traitor.

Key West Reader on June 13, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Really why even have a border lets just have a free for all and get it over with.

ldbgcoleman on June 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Don’t worry, the big free-for-all is coming.

DFCtomm on June 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Just open the borders and be done with it.

That’s not what I want but we all know this all is one big effing joke on the American people.

CW on June 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Keep the pressure on the House and the Senate, particularly the Senators who are up for re-election in 2014.

Senator Gang of 8 Member Lindsey Graham is up for re-election in South Carolina in 2014.

Richard Cash has announced that he will be running against Lindsey Graham in the Republican Primary in 2014.

Learn more about Richard Cash at his campaign website:
http://www.richardcashforsenate.com/

If you like what you see there, show your support for Richard Cash in any way you can:

- Donate
- Volunteer to help
- Spread the word about Richard Cash’s campaign
- Show your support by liking Richard Cash on Facebook
- Show your support by following Richard Cash on Twitter

A visible groundswell of support for Richard Cash, should scare Lindsey Graham into fearing the loss of his Senate seat and send a very clear message to any other legislators who might think of supporting this treasonous Amnesty bill.

Every single time Lindsey Graham’s name is mentioned, it should be followed by information about Richard Cash’s campaign against him.

wren on June 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Where in the world is the tea party? There is virtually absolutely no resistance to this trainweck!!
Where is Sarah?!
Where is Demint?!
Where is Romney?!

Where is Superman??

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on June 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Levin says the Bush Family/Staff/Rove etc. teamed with Zuckerberg on these Rubio/Ryan immigration commercials.

What does that tell us…That the push for this crapola Immigration Bill is about Jeb Bush and 2016…and the beauty contest for VP is between Ryan and Rubio.

Fun Times in the new Aristocratic America.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM

The Dems say “boo” and the GOP runs in full retreat with Rubio and Flake waving their white BVDs, McCain waving his Depends and Graham waving his pink g-string.

bw222 on June 13, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Rubio or Snowden?

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on June 13, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Graham waving his pink g-string.
bw222 on June 13, 2013 at 6:16 PM

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Lmao…. EWWW

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on June 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Ok, Levin has opened his show tonight discussing this issue, and he’s referred to Rubio twice as “our friend Marco Rubio”, while referring to the other 3 republicans who voted to kill this amendment as wackos.

Levin: All 4 republicans voted against this amendment, including our friend Marco Rubio, and that wacko John McCain, and that wacko Lindsay Graham, and that other wacko Jeff Flake

No Mark, all 4 are wackos, and the idea that you would still refer to Rubio as “our friend” after he lied to you and your listeners and is STILL lying is mind boggling.

xblade on June 13, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on June 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Demint is actually fighting hard.

As for Palin, she’s a disappointment on this.

rrpjr on June 13, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Where in the world is the tea party? There is virtually absolutely no resistance to this trainweck!!
Where is Sarah?!
Where is Demint?!
Where is Romney?!

Where is Superman??

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on June 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM

DeMint is fighting it with the Heritage Foundation.

The Koch Brothers are shopping for News Papers.

Bachmann is fighting it but she’s also retiring.

Sarah Palin doesn’t want to diss her buddy Rubio and she’s going back to Fox.

Romney is trying to be relevant as sort of an elder statesman in the current GOP.

The Rest of the Tea Party grassroots folks are being hounded by Il Duce’s Executive Agencies.

The good news…Boehner faces an insurrection of at least 70 balkers.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 6:22 PM

So Rubio shows his true RINO stripes after all. That’s not going to help him in 2016…

stacman on June 13, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Demint is actually fighting hard.

As for Palin, she’s a disappointment on this.

rrpjr on June 13, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Palin isn’t gonna diss Rubio.

She’ll diss Rick Perry but not Rubio…that tells ya how dead Rubio is for 2016.

He just hasn’t figured that out yet…Tools are kinda slow.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Ok, Levin has opened his show tonight discussing this issue, and he’s referred to Rubio twice as “our friend Marco Rubio”, while referring to the other 3 republicans who voted to kill this amendment as wackos.

Levin: All 4 republicans voted against this amendment, including our friend Marco Rubio, and that wacko John McCain, and that wacko Lindsay Graham, and that other wacko Jeff Flake

No Mark, all 4 are wackos, and the idea that you would still refer to Rubio as “our friend” after he lied to you and your listeners and is STILL lying is mind boggling.

xblade on June 13, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Levin and Hannity are having a rough time of it with Rubio…cause they really liked the sharp crease in his slacks.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Anyone else notice that once again the state with the longest southern border (TX) and one of the strongest economies is totally left out of this discussion again…

Why is that?

Cause Texas would put border security first and cause Texas is balking on Obamacare.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 6:30 PM

It’s an insult to serious border hawks, but as DrewM says, it’ll help Rubio with social cons in Iowa in 2016. And that’s what really matters, Rubio’s endless pronouncements that he’s only doing this because it’s the “right thing to do” notwithstanding.

Allah

Once again, AP nails the tone. I have become so enamored of this scathing view of politician/vermin that I read Rubio’s statement elsewhere and laughed out loud at his transparent, pandering fakery.

He sucks bad.

Jaibones on June 13, 2013 at 4:59 PM

“Politician/vermin”. There it is. Remember Lindsey “Make a deal” Graham? That’s the mindset of the parasites in power these days. It’s time to pour some medicine into the infected intestines of this country. Emergency RX: Tort reform, media ethics, term limits.

RushBaby on June 13, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Rand Paul (after a couple drinks):

“I relish the coming thumpin I will give to the young foolish Senator from Florida, contingent on him being foolish enough to throw his hat in the ring come 2015.”

(Paul pulls out his cellphone, knowing the NSA is tapped in, and speed dials a certain lady for a nice big endorsement.)

KirknBurker on June 13, 2013 at 6:34 PM

I read where Rubio’s bill permanently funds 10 “community organizations” to handle all the assimilation of illegals and those that follow.

They’ll get their Welcome to the Democratic Party at the border.

BuckeyeSam on June 13, 2013 at 2:49 PM

And then Rubio will switch parties claiming that he didn’t leave the GOP, the GOP left him. Isn’t that the usual story?

HiJack on June 13, 2013 at 6:47 PM

Levin and Hannity are having a rough time of it with Rubio…cause they really liked the sharp crease in his slacks.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Rubio is clean-looking and speaks clearly, too!

HiJack on June 13, 2013 at 6:50 PM

No, Rubio is a liar. The rat-eared wonder is a traitor.

HiJack on June 13, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Rubio is a traitor.

Key West Reader on June 13, 2013 at 5:41 PM

No, Rubio is a liar. The rat-eared wonder is a traitor.

Fixed.

HiJack on June 13, 2013 at 6:52 PM

HiJack on June 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM

LIARS! PALIN HAS NOT MENTIONED THAT SHE’S RETURNING TO FOXNEWS.

TheAlamos on June 13, 2013 at 3:22 PM

It was announced on The Five today. She’ll be on Fox & Friends tomorrow morning.

James on June 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM

From Paul Mirengoff at Powerline Blog:

For many years, I’ve been referring to Lindsey Graham as the “Arlen Specter of the South.” The idea is that, although Graham isn’t as bad as Specter was, he’s the “moral equivalent” of Specter, considering how much more conservative South Carolina is compared to Pennsylvania. Now, the same friend who gave me the Graham-Specter analogy suggests that Marco Rubio is the Lindsey Graham of the Tea Party.

bofh on June 13, 2013 at 7:11 PM

This bill is never going to make it..:)

Dire Straits on June 13, 2013 at 7:16 PM

A lot of this is posturing by many GOP senators to vote for something – motion to proceed, various amendments.

That said, the Base had damned well better rise up soon, or this monstrosity will clear cloture and pass the Senate.

Worse, the Senate GOP should NEVER do this politically to the House (one of the most hateful and selfish acts within a party I’ve witnessed in years), because Boehner will be under severe MSM pressure to get all Democratic votes and a small smattering of GOP votes to pass this slop in the House. The MSM will go into overdrive to get this monstrosity to Obama’s desk.

This is bad politics, and worse public policy. For every new Hispanic taxpayer, the Dems will create ten new dependents and guaranteed D votes.

The right yelling from the base and TV campaign for border security first CAN turn this around, but large donors had better open their wallets soon. And people had better start ringing the phones off the hook on the Hill.

matthew8787 on June 13, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Yeppers … how ya’ll feelin’ about voting for the lesser of two evils now?

Hehe.

HondaV65 on June 13, 2013 at 7:30 PM

In addition to praising Rubio, it’s getting a little tedious listening to Mark Levin hawk his father’s book for 15 minutes EVERY night.

bw222 on June 13, 2013 at 7:42 PM

A couple of points, first, the Republicans are all squishy because they lost the last election. It’s pretty simple, they can’t figure out how they lost House Seats, Senate Seats and the election, to a guy who doesn’t know how to administrate and a Senate that can’t pass a budget.

bflat879 on June 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Let’s figure this mystery out. The Republicans with strong Conservative and TEA Party support had a great 2010 election. From this success they “learned” that they needed to find a liberal Governor from the most liberal state in the Union, Massachusetts, and they did just that with Mitt Romney. Unsurprisingly, four million Conservative/TEA Party voters stayed home on election night 2012 and that hurt Republicans all down the ticket.

Mystery solved! The Republican added about a dozen moderate and independent voters and lost four million of their base voters with their pick of the liberal Mitt Romney. I fully expect the Republicans to now “learn” that they have to repeat the 2012 failure with the NE liberal Chris Christie.

RJL on June 13, 2013 at 7:47 PM

As much as it pains me to agree with Ann Coulter on anything…this is politically the stupidest move in the history of the party. You are basically securing your opponent a numerical superiority. Aliens will never, ever vote for a party that looks to curb ridiculously over funded social programs…that’s what the hell they are coming here to avail themselves and their families of. I’m officially an (I). This is sickening

a5minmajor on June 13, 2013 at 7:50 PM

The Koch Brothers are shopping for News Papers.

workingclass artist

The Koch brothers are also pushing for amnesty. That’s probably why they aren’t joining the fight against amnesty.

Rand Paul (after a couple drinks):

“I relish the coming thumpin I will give to the young foolish Senator from Florida, contingent on him being foolish enough to throw his hat in the ring come 2015.”

(Paul pulls out his cellphone, knowing the NSA is tapped in, and speed dials a certain lady for a nice big endorsement.)

KirknBurker

You mean the same amnesty-supporting Rand Paul who said yesterday that if you’re an illegal, we’ll find a place for you?

xblade on June 13, 2013 at 7:58 PM

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