Flight from Congress over ObamaCare’s massive cost hikes?

posted at 12:01 pm on June 13, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

When Congress debated ObamaCare, pressure from critics forced lawmakers to include themselves under its mandates, rather than keep their current “Cadillac plans” that they proposed to tax out of existence for everyone else.  That decision will impact current members starting at the end of this year, as they have to find insurance on the ObamaCare markets just like everyone else.  Now, suddenly, ObamaCare looks a lot less attractive — and some of them may retire to avoid it (via Instapundit, who notes that this is doing what the term-limits movement couldn’t):

Dozens of lawmakers and aides are so afraid that their health insurance premiums will skyrocket next year thanks to Obamacare that they are thinking about retiring early or just quitting.

The fear: Government-subsidized premiums will disappear at the end of the year under a provision in the health care law that nudges aides and lawmakers onto the government health care exchanges, which could make their benefits exorbitantly expensive.

Democratic and Republican leaders are taking the issue seriously, but first they need more specifics from the Office of Personnel Management on how the new rule should take effect — a decision that Capitol Hill sources expect by fall, at the latest. The administration has clammed up in advance of a ruling, sources on both sides of the aisle said. …

The problem is far more acute in the House, where lawmakers and aides are generally younger and less wealthy. Sources said several aides have already given lawmakers notice that they’ll be leaving over concerns about Obamacare. Republican and Democratic lawmakers said the chatter about retiring now, to remain on the current health care plan, is constant.

Oh, the aching irony.  Remember when this was supposed to benefit all Americans?  How it was supposed to make you more secure in your line of work?  ”If you like your plan, you can keep your plan”?  Those were promised made by some of the very same people that now want to flee after having their “solution” imposed on the rest of us.

They’re not the only people looking to flee, either.  Doctors want out of the system in both the private and public markets.  The AMA estimates that 17% of physicians are limiting Medicare patients in their practices now, and the number is expected to grow.  More physicians are also bailing out of the private insurance system as well, creating direct-payment businesses that not only lower costs rather than just prices, but also allows the doctor and patient to direct therapy rather than a bean-counter in an office far away.

My column this week for The Fiscal Times picks up on CNN’s report on this phenomenon, and argues that this is the true path for health-care reform:

Nunamaker and the increasing number of providers pursuing this option have to court aggressively a smaller market by competing with each other on price.  Fortunately, with the mandates and reimbursement headaches removed, that becomes much easier to accomplish.  Nunamaker structures his business on a membership model, where a flat monthly fee allows customers unlimited access to his clinic.  For most adults, the fee is $50; senior citizens pay $100, but membership for children costs only $10 per month.

Let’s say that an average family of four, with two adults and two children, sign up for this service.  That would cost $1,440 a year for complete coverage of any services that can be provided within the office.  The least expensive plan on eHealthInsurance.com all-plans for a family of four in Wichita costs $329 a month – and that has a $10,000 deductible. For a deductible of $1500 for the family – the same cost of the membership at Nunamaker’s clinic – the price would jump to $869 per month.

What happens when a patient needs services the clinic doesn’t provide? Nunamaker has created partnerships with providers at costs amounting to fractions of what insurance pays, CNN reports.  A $90 cholesterol test can be purchased for … three dollars. An MRI normally would cost an insurance company $2000, but Nunamaker’s patients can access one for $400.

Obviously, Nunamaker’s patients need hospitalization coverage in case something significant happens.  Normally, catastrophic coverage would be inexpensive, as hospital visits are relatively rare occurrences, especially for younger and healthier people.  Unfortunately, Obamacare outlaws such plans in the ACA “exchanges” by making them ineligible for subsidies.

Instead, Americans buying plans on the individual market have to spend much more than they’ll ever pay directly to market-based physicians like Nunamaker, essentially subsidizing the premiums of older and sicker Americans to make Obamacare politically palatable to those demographics who turn out more reliably to vote.  Americans purchasing plans through employers won’t have much more luck buying sensible insurance plans, either, thanks to other mandates within the ACA on employer-provided health insurance.

Doctors are fleeing ObamaCare, and some of those are showing the way to real reform.  Congress is fleeing the system that they created.  Why should the rest of us get stuck with it?

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Hypocrites extraordinaire…this will be a huge scandal, when the Americans wake up to the Obama’care’ travesty that was shoved down their throats, by hook and crooks.

Amnesty will be even worse. The two are lethal in the destruction of the land.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM

So sorry to see these people go. Just a shame that there will be as one of the media outlets called it “a brain-drain” when they all leave. Oh my, what will we do?

oldroy on June 13, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Doctors are fleeing ObamaCare, and some of those are showing the way to real reform. Congress is fleeing the system that they created. Why should the rest of us get stuck with it?

Because we’re the little people. The peon masses. So is the whole idea that was being secretly discussed in DC a few months ago of Congress exempting themselves and their staffers dead in the water?

Doughboy on June 13, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Amnesty will be even worse. The two are lethal in the destruction of the land.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Final Financial Destruction Parts A and B. $80 Trillion in debt and unfunded liabilities aren’t enough to bring us down for another 10 years. Must bring the end in a just a few years with these programs.

oldroy on June 13, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I will lament forever that fact that the founding fathers didn’t demand that NO politician, from the president on down, be an exception to any laws they force upon the citizens of the land.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Ha Ha!

-Nelson

22044 on June 13, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money.

Sooner or later, you run out of Obamacare participants.

22044 on June 13, 2013 at 12:08 PM

They will find a way around this and help themselves. It’s what they do.

forest on June 13, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Doctors are fleeing ObamaCare, and some of those are showing the way to real reform. Congress is fleeing the system that they created. Why should the rest of us get stuck with it?

Because the rat-eared coward needs a legacy. You can’t get rid of ObamaCare without getting rid of Obama. So…. everybody sees the trainwreck but the left is unwilling to act.

Happy Nomad on June 13, 2013 at 12:08 PM

oldroy on June 13, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Oodles of oil and its exploration would wipe out the former, pronto. The greens will prevent but it’s possible.

The two programs will kill the land, as you know her and make her a third world dump.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I will lament forever that fact that the founding fathers didn’t demand that NO politician, from the president on down, be an exception to any laws they force upon the citizens of the land.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Ditto. Men and women of conscience would need a law to tell them that. No law will ever stop the corrupt ruling class we have now.

oldroy on June 13, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Haha.
Then Rush starts with this. Sweet.

ORconservative on June 13, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Ditto. Men and women of conscience would (not) need a law to tell them that.

Fixed.

oldroy on June 13, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Designed to fail. Wait until no one enters the exchanges until they are sick.

Also, proof that they are only there for the perks.

goflyers on June 13, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Hey Ed, I think you guys posted this story when it came out. Plans like these completely circumvent Obamacare – I wonder how long it’ll be, before the government regulates them out of existence?

Hill60 on June 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM

OT: Guam is tipping over.

faraway on June 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Sources said several aides have already given lawmakers notice that they’ll be leaving over concerns about Obamacare.

Now they can follow their dreams of being an artist or a poet.

docflash on June 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Hypocrites extraordinaire…this will be a huge scandal, when the Americans wake up to the Obama’care’ travesty that was shoved down their throats, by hook and crooks.

Amnesty will be even worse. The two are lethal in the destruction of the land.

As long as the LSM is in cahoots with those hypocrites and the leftist agenda, too many Americans won’t wake up to the travesty and tragedy of Obamacare and the dangers of Amnesty.

If the LSM truly had the best interest of the Nation at heart instead of being the propaganda arm of the Left, Barry, his admin and many on Capitol Hill would be in dire straights.

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Don’t worry. I’m sure that many new doctors, scientists and engineers will be among the tens of millions of immigrants our leaders are about to admit. That will be our salvation.

Fenris on June 13, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Watch them wiggle…see them jiggle….

Pass the popcorn.

WryTrvllr on June 13, 2013 at 12:14 PM

The rats are starting to abandon ship.

Second look at Obamacare?

SagebrushPuppet on June 13, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Now they can follow their dreams of being an artist or a poet.

docflash on June 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Well, with their government pensions along with moving to a cheaper place to live, they probably can.

Fenris on June 13, 2013 at 12:14 PM

As far as I am concerned no congressional staffer should be allowed to work for another politician. When they come to DC for the first time and work fr a particular congressman, when that pol loses his seat or retires so should ALL his staffers… go home, don’t come back. Too many staffers float around Washington for years going from pol to pol and they run the gov’t, not our pols. So, I would be glad to see them quit, whatever the reason.

Warner Todd Huston on June 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM

I will lament forever that fact that the founding fathers didn’t demand that NO politician, from the president on down, be an exception to any laws they force upon the citizens of the land.

Probably took it for granted that few if any in CONgress would dare conspire to claim an exemption to any laws to which citizens would be subject. Perhaps they figured an honest and ethical majority would slap any members of CONgress down for even suggesting what has sadly come to be standard operating procedure for those on Capitol Hill.

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM

National Healthcare.

Over 2,000 pages of legal jargon forced down our throat by some jerk in the White House who was voted into office by other jerks who swooned over his skin color.

fogw on June 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM

If the LSM truly had the best interest of the Nation at heart instead of being the propaganda arm of the Left, Barry, his admin and many on Capitol Hill would be in dire straights.

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:12 PM

We’ll know there is a sea change when the administration goes back to protesting the name ObamaCare. Remember when the bill was first jammed through Congress? The administration got angry when it was called ObamaCare instead of the ACA.

Happy Nomad on June 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Boo F’in Hoo. Why should government employees have it better than the rest of us?

ROCnPhilly on June 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM

This really makes me angry. Rep John Larson thinks this needs to be resolved because these are “federal employees” and this is just not fair to them. Why are federal employees more important than the millions of others who are negatively affected by this?

Rose on June 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Totally looking forward to the Will Ferrell/Jack Black slapstick comedy movie about Obamacare coming out in 2020.

Robert_Paulson on June 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Read, to the last word. You won’t be sorry.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Could not have happened to a better bunch. The worst of it is they will not learn from this and will continue to try and dictate the way we should live.

ojfltx on June 13, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Don’t worry. I’m sure that many new doctors, scientists and engineers will be among the tens of millions of immigrants our leaders are about to admit. That will be our salvation.

Dude, that is already happening. For example, my doctor at Kaiser, 5th generation US, of Irish/Italian descent, recently retired and was replaced, judging from her name and accent, someone who immigrated from somewhere around the Middle East.

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Boy, when Obama next turns on the news and hears about what ObamaCare is going to cost, he’s going to be pissed!!

PackerBronco on June 13, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Defund it, don’t feed the beast!

neyney on June 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Totally looking forward to the Will Ferrell/Jack Black slapstick comedy movie about Obamacare coming out in 2020.

Robert_Paulson on June 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Steve Urkel will play barky.

VegasRick on June 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM

“A few other hot news topics these days include the IRS. The federal government is about to hire 16,000 more IRS agents to enforce healthcare. Forty-seven new tax increases — no wonder they need guns. Now we already know the IRS is arrogant. They waste as much money as the other government agencies. They enjoy pushing people around, and they can’t line dance. We don’t need 16,000 more people who can’t line dance! And we don’t need more people with guns, enforcing our healthcare. All right Granny, get your hands up. It’s the last time we’re telling you. Take your Metamucil!

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM

And the “quick fix” for the rats jumping ship is…

ALL health care plans will be transferred to Obamacare on Dec.31st at midnight.

You all get in the same, ill-conceived tub we’re forced into… or you get nothing.

heldmyw on June 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Except I was being sarcastic!

Fenris on June 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM

O/T We need to put all of these distractions on the back burners and focus on this so called Immigration which will destroy our Country if we don’t fight it.

Call your Senators & now that 70 House members are going against Boehner, call them in support.

If this evil passes, nothing else matters!!

Beck has this House revolt up on the Blaze:]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/13/revolt-among-republicans-on-immigration-bill-70-house-members-risk-careers-in-planned-showdown-with-leadership/

All of my time, money and energy will be spent on trying to defeat this evil of Amnesty!!

bluefox on June 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM

fogw on June 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM

A Jerk? You’re being too kind.

Cleombrotus on June 13, 2013 at 12:25 PM

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Except I was being sarcastic!

Fenris on June 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Aha!

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Boy, when Obama next turns on the news and hears about what ObamaCare is going to cost, he’s going to be pissed!!

PackerBronco on June 13, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Not for long though, the costs are going up quarterly.

antipc on June 13, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Let’s hope Boehner, McCarthy, and Cantor are at the head of the line.

Mr. Arrogant on June 13, 2013 at 12:25 PM

When “Gimme, gimme, gimme ” get put on it’s head, people do the oddest things. Don’t they ?

Interesting to watch the piggy getting stuck.

Jabberwock on June 13, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Why should the rest of us get stuck with it?

Because Pelosi and Obama know what’s good for you. Just trust them.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 12:26 PM

So sorry to see these people go. Just a shame that there will be as one of the media outlets called it “a brain-drain” when they all leave. Oh my, what will we do?

oldroy on June 13, 2013 at 12:04 PM

More like a lobotomy than a brain drain… about time!

blammm on June 13, 2013 at 12:26 PM

See? Every cloud DOES have a silver lining.

bigmacdaddy on June 13, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Instead, Americans buying plans on the individual market have to spend much more than they’ll ever pay directly to market-based physicians

All that and death panels too! Yipeee!!!!!

Speaking of which, did Sebelius come out to say how disappointed she was that a 10-year-old was able to get a lung transplant despite her best efforts to kill the child?

Happy Nomad on June 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Totally looking forward to the Will Ferrell/Jack Black slapstick comedy movie about Obamacare coming out in 2020.

Robert_Paulson on June 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Steve Urkel will play barky.

Nah, Chris Rock will totally demand the part! Actually he’ll be fighting tooth and nail with Marlon Wayans over getting it.:)

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM

VegasRick on June 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM

LOL

Robert_Paulson on June 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM

See? Every cloud DOES have a silver lining.

bigmacdaddy on June 13, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Yeah except that the rats leaving the sinking ship all have golden parachutes.

Happy Nomad on June 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM

dems, you own it…suck it up

cmsinaz on June 13, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Troll-free thread … been a lot of them lately.

What’s up with that? o_0

M240H on June 13, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Dude, that is already happening. For example, my doctor at Kaiser, 5th generation US, of Irish/Italian descent, recently retired and was replaced, judging from her name and accent, someone who immigrated from somewhere around the Middle East.

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:21 PM

That’s what happened in the UK’s NHS. The Daily Mail regularly chronicles not only appalling hospital patient care stories (no changing of soiled sheets, no water for thirsty patients, leaving them on the floor for hours if they fall out of bed), but also problems (and deaths) that result from a barely-English speaking doctors. Also, the NHS contract negotiated by the doctors has the NHS bring in Europeans to cover off-hours and weekend calls. There was a recent story about a patient death because the foreign doctor covering could not understand English very well.

And then, of course, there is the “Liverpool Care Pathway.” (The patient is going to die soon, so withdraw food and water…really. This was supposedly suspended after some families kept sneaking in food and water and the “dying” patient went home with a lot of life left in him.)

Of course, if you have money, you can get a private plan, and a private hospital…Cadillac Brit style…

Wethal on June 13, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Just a shame that there will be as one of the media outlets called it “a brain-drain” when they all leave. Oh my, what will we do?

oldroy on June 13, 2013 at 12:04 PM

You could brain-drain all of congress and fail to fill a thimble.

The Rogue Tomato on June 13, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Totally looking forward to the Will Ferrell/Jack Black slapstick comedy movie about Obamacare coming out in 2020.

Robert_Paulson on June 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Steve Urkel will play barky.
Nah, Chris Rock will totally demand the part! Actually he’ll be fighting tooth and nail with Marlon Wayans over getting it.:)

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Jamie Foxx as Reggie Love … or will he want to play Valerie?

M240H on June 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Oh, the aching irony. Remember when this was supposed to benefit all Americans? How it was supposed to make you more secure in your line of work? ”If you like your plan, you can keep your plan”? Those were promised made by some of the very same people that now want to flee after having their “solution” imposed on the rest of us.

Remember when the mountebanks selling their snake oil said “We just want to give the American people the same quality care that members of Congress receive”
Spread your cheeks, Congress! You’re going to have to take the same old snake-oil-suppository the rest of us will have to (until Congress exempts itself).

By the way, when will HA come out of the stone ages and add the Discus comment platform???

Glenn Jericho on June 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Nah, Chris Rock will totally demand the part! Actually he’ll be fighting tooth and nail with Marlon Wayans over getting it.:)

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM

They’ll have to step aside for Harry Belafonte.

oldroy on June 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Troll-free thread … been a lot of them lately.

What’s up with that? o_0

M240H on June 13, 2013 at 12:31 PM

UE tried to put some salve on this burn up in the Headlines.

Didn’t go so well.

Jabberwock on June 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Troll-free thread … been a lot of them lately.

What’s up with that? o_0

M240H on June 13, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Yes, quite nice, isn’t it?

OT, can HotAir please,PLEASE remove the photo of the
effing Parasite, Loretta Dirty Sanchez??

ToddPA on June 13, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Troll-free thread … been a lot of them lately.

What’s up with that? o_0

M240H on June 13, 2013 at 12:31 PM

The Axelfund ran out of $, I suppose.

22044 on June 13, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Yeah except that the rats leaving the sinking ship all have golden parachutes.

Happy Nomad on June 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Too bad those are figurative rather than literal.

bigmacdaddy on June 13, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Jamie Foxx as Reggie Love … or will he want to play Valerie?

M240H on June 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Jason Collins has already been “tapped” for that role.

VegasRick on June 13, 2013 at 12:36 PM

By the way, when will HA come out of the stone ages and add the Discus comment platform???

Glenn Jericho on June 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM

The staff of Hot Air still use flip phones, so there’s your answer to the stone age comment.

patch on June 13, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Hey, didn’t Pelosi say we had to pass it to find out what was in it?

Obamacare the gift that keep giving.

patch on June 13, 2013 at 12:38 PM

“But the real issues that we have in this country are that people are sick of Washington, D.C. They’re sick of the money that they’re seeing spent, they’re sick of the fraud and the corruption that they’re seeing. They’re sick of seeing their kids’ futures mortgaged because we’ve got a Washington, D.C., that is out of touch with the country. It’s the reason, when I talk about my overhauling Washington plan, and I’ve gotten a pretty good response when I talk about going to a part-time Congress. Cut their pay in half, let ‘em spend half the time in Washington, D.C. Send ‘em back home to have a regular job like the rest of the people in their districts, and work under the laws that they pass. That, I suggest, along with a balanced budget amendment, will go a long way toward stopping a lot of the nonsense that we’re seeing coming out of Washington. – Gov. Perry 2011

Welcome to the Peanut gallery Congressional Staffers.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I’d rather go to my Veterinarian.

old school on June 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM

“Oh…If they quit they stay on the current Pre-Obamacare plan…But if they stay they have to go on Obamacare…” – Rush

A quiet Putsch?

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 12:40 PM

By the way, when will HA come out of the stone ages and add the Discus comment platform???

Glenn Jericho on June 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM

The staff of Hot Air still use flip phones, so there’s your answer to the stone age comment.

patch on June 13, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Disqus sucks. This platform is much more fun!

22044 on June 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Term Limits or Obamacare, whatever it takes to drive out the career politician. It’s all good.

Afterseven on June 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM

“The affordable Care Act is so affordable that Congress is demanding an exemption from it…” – Rush Limbaugh

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM

I’d rather go to my Veterinarian.

old school on June 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Snort! Did that for years. Described my symptoms and pointed to one of my sturdy steeds. Worked just fine.

katy the mean old lady on June 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM

See, you CAN make a single-payer system work in the US health care system!

As long as the single payer is… ME!

Wonder how long before doctors here in Ohio start offering direct services.

The Schaef on June 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM

The Obamacare that ate Washington

Coming soon to theaters.

22044 on June 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Congress doesn’t want to have to afford the affordable care in Obamacare like the rest of us…The Serfs in the Gulag.

In more good news…Walmart is only hiring temporary employees.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Hypocrites extraordinaire…

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Politicians in general, but especially Dems… on all issues… They think it’s their birthright.

RalphyBoy on June 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Disqus sucks. This platform is much more fun!

22044 on June 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM

+1000

ToddPA on June 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Nah, Chris Rock will totally demand the part! Actually he’ll be fighting tooth and nail with Marlon Wayans over getting it.:)

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM

They’ll have to step aside for Harry Belafonte.

Nah, Harry’s a lock for playing a cameo as Frank Marshall Davis. It’ll be a real hoot just like him playing a parody of Marlon Brando’s Don Corleone in “Uptown Saturday Night”. :)

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:47 PM

To be fashionable about this :

“The optics on this are not good.”

Jabberwock on June 13, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Hey, Ed: Instead of voting with their feet, why don’t these ninnies just push the AYE button and repeal the ObamaBeast?!

IndieDogg on June 13, 2013 at 12:48 PM

I don’t know of anyone who would not be happy to show them to the door.

Mr. Grump on June 13, 2013 at 12:48 PM

I propose a statue be erected in Washington DC on the Whitehouse grounds in full view of the oval office window of Rep Joe Wilson. with the inscription: ‘You Lie’

meci on June 13, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Disqus sucks. This platform is much more fun!
22044 on June 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Disqus is just sufficient. Don’t think it’s particularly good, but at least you don’t get the shuffled replies to comments and you are alerted for replies. Disqus needs editing functions like HotAir… Especially block quote

Glenn Jericho on June 13, 2013 at 12:51 PM

I’d rather go to my Veterinarian.

old school on June 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Snort! Did that for years. Described my symptoms and pointed to one of my sturdy steeds. Worked just fine.

katy the mean old lady on June 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM

In an Army Combat Support Hospital, triage is done by Veteranarians and Pediatricians. They can diagnose by feel and can treat patients who can’t respond to questions.

Mr. Grump on June 13, 2013 at 12:52 PM

I don’t know of anyone who would not be happy to show them to the door.

I’d be happier to kick them out the door…..literally. :)

I have steel toed boots for just such an occasion.

hawkeye54 on June 13, 2013 at 12:53 PM

What happens when a patient needs services the clinic doesn’t provide? Nunamaker has created partnerships with providers at costs amounting to fractions of what insurance pays, CNN reports. A $90 cholesterol test can be purchased for … three dollars. An MRI normally would cost an insurance company $2000, but Nunamaker’s patients can access one for $400.

I’m sure one or more of the countless “The Secretary shall determine…” sections in PP-CACA can will be used by Sebelius or a successor to regulate eliminate this sort of enterprising behavior.

Marcola on June 13, 2013 at 12:53 PM

The Obamacare that ate Washington

Coming soon to theaters.

22044 on June 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM

“The so-called Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or what we often refer to as Obamacare, simply must be repealed. Period. If we are unwilling to repeal a 2,000-plus-page bill that its sponsors admitted to not having read, that will cost trillions of dollars, that is opposed by a majority of the nation, that unconstitutionally requires private citizens to buy private health insurance, and that spits in the face of any principles of limited government and federalism –then we should just give up. The future of American depends on reversing this law.

Now, some Republicans seem to be hung up on the notion that we must be “for” something and must indicate so by saying that we will “repeal and replace” the legislation. That is such inside-the-Beltway nonsense and only confuses the issues for voters…” – Gov. Perry 2010

“Texas will not be held hostage by the Obama administration’s attempt to force us into the fool’s errand of adding more than a million Texans to a broken system.” – Gov. Perry 2013

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Snort! Did that for years. Described my symptoms and pointed to one of my sturdy steeds. Worked just fine.

katy the mean old lady on June 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Always wanted to know where the phrase ” horse pills” came from.

*wink*

Jabberwock on June 13, 2013 at 12:57 PM

…and some of them may retire to avoid it…

I assume this is a feature not a bug.

Blaise on June 13, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Gov. Jan Brewer has egg on her face this morning…Yep!

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Dozens of lawmakers and aides are so afraid that their health insurance premiums will skyrocket next year thanks to Obamacare that they are thinking about retiring early or just quitting.

Let the Congressmen and Senators who voted for ObamaCare quit, and those who voted against it should stay in Congress and/or run for re-election. Since all Republicans voted against ObamaCare, the only Congress-critters needing replacement would be Democrats. Then the new Congress votes to repeal ObamaCare…

Steve Z on June 13, 2013 at 1:01 PM

“The so-called Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or what we often refer to as Obamacare, simply must be repealed. Period. If we are unwilling to repeal a 2,000-plus-page bill that its sponsors admitted to not having read, that will cost trillions of dollars, that is opposed by a majority of the nation, that unconstitutionally requires private citizens to buy private health insurance, and that spits in the face of any principles of limited government and federalism –then we should just give up. The future of American depends on reversing this law.

Now, some Republicans seem to be hung up on the notion that we must be “for” something and must indicate so by saying that we will “repeal and replace” the legislation. That is such inside-the-Beltway nonsense and only confuses the issues for voters…” – Gov. Perry 2010

“Texas will not be held hostage by the Obama administration’s attempt to force us into the fool’s errand of adding more than a million Texans to a broken system.” – Gov. Perry 2013

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Good quotes.

22044 on June 13, 2013 at 1:01 PM

So does this mean Congress & staff have to get in the back of the line…behind the other illegals?

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Steve Urkel will play barky.

VegasRick on June 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I can hear it already. “Did I do that?”

Deano1952 on June 13, 2013 at 1:08 PM

We’re going to need a PETA for people.

lynncgb on June 13, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Good quotes.

22044 on June 13, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Gov. Perry said Obamacare would implode under it’s own weight anyway.

If he were POTUS…He’d probably cut the A/C in the capitol and call it energy conservation to make his point.

Congress makes laws they don’t live under because they are a protected class.

While there are some principled members in Congress…the bulk of them become corrupted by their careerism, insider trading,nepotism and the insulated filth of the swamp we call DC….and they’ll do whatever they can to consolidate and maintain power and undermine the autonomous subsidiarity of local governance.

The Apparatchik of the Agencies of Bureaucracy are almost impossible to fire once entrenched….and are largely beyond the reach of the Law.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 1:14 PM

We’re going to need a PETA for people.

lynncgb on June 13, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Nah…Progressive think there are too many people.

Too many babies and smelly old people.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Troll-free thread … been a lot of them lately.

What’s up with that? o_0

M240H on June 13, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Evem they are shamed by this admin. and the crooks, from both sides, in DC.

Schadenfreude on June 13, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Here’s what Botox Pelosi said about the stupid law:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

tmgrant on June 13, 2013 at 1:18 PM

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