Schumer to Cornyn: Democrats will not accept your border-security amendment

posted at 2:41 pm on June 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

Second look at John Cornyn?

No, I kid. This is, I assume, a little Chuck Schumer-style kabuki with Cornyn’s full, knowing participation.

“We cannot accept the Cornyn amendment,” Schumer said. “I’ve told John that already. The way it would change the triggers would jeopardize the path to citizenship. You should tell the people you’re lobbying that that is not going to happen. There may be other amendments dealing with the border that we can accept but not that one.”

The source close to Schumer adds, “Schumer likes Cornyn a lot personally, but he spent the first two years after President Obama’s election in 2008 trying to work with Cornyn on an immigration reform bill. He’s impossible to get to ‘yes’ on this issue.”

On the Senate floor Monday night, Schumer told Cornyn “you know full well that [your amendment is] a deal killer,” and that other Republicans are kicking around border security ideas that might ultimately be amenable to Democrats. But because Democrats don’t consider Cornyn’s vote gettable, there have been no staff- or member-level discussions since then.

Harry Reid also called Cornyn’s amendment a “poison pill” because it would require DHS to hit specific security targets before the second stage of the legalization process, i.e. making illegals eligible for green cards (after a waiting period), is triggered. Democrats aren’t terribly concerned about that second stage, though; it’s the first stage, in which illegals get probationary legal status, that’s crucial to them because it grants illegals a right to remain in the U.S. that, realistically, will never be rescinded regardless of what happens with border security. You know how Rubio likes to say that we have “de facto amnesty” now? Well, the first stage of legalization is a de facto green card. Citizenship will inevitably follow later, border security or not, because Republicans will fear the wrath of Latino voters if they oppose it. Obviously the Dems want the second stage to begin as soon as possible, but if there’s no way to get this bill through the House without caving on Cornyn’s amendment, they’ll suck it up and do it. By making a stink now, they’re trying to get Cornyn to soften his requirements a bit. Once he does, they’ll accept the amendment as a “tough but fair” compromise or whatever to make conservative border hawks think they’ve won some huge concession.

The Daily Caller suspects the same thing:

The amendment is “just political theater to provide cover for Republican congressmen who want to give the plutocracy what it wants… lowered wages and a morally righteous feeling,” Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a research nonprofit that advocates reduction of both legal and illegal immigration, told The Daily Caller…

“Contrary to what is being said, it is not a poison pill,” Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona told The Daily Caller.

“There are a couple of points that are tough, but we’re working on it,” said Flake, who is one of the four GOP senators in the Gang of Eight, which is led by Sen. Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat.

“We want to modify it … [and Cornyn] is trying to work on something that improves the bill,” Flake told TheDC a few minutes after McConnell, Cornyn and Reid spoke with reporters. “If he gets his amendment as it stands, he’ll work for the bill. and hopefully we can modify it [and] everybody can vote for it.”

Guy Benson heard from his sources on the Hill last week that Schumer was inclined to support Cornyn’s amendment. You can, therefore, read the “poison pill” nonsense coming from Schumer and Reid lately in one of two ways. Either Democrats (or liberal amnesty shills in their base) are grumpy about having to make a flashy concession to Republicans on the border so soon into the process, which in turn means Schumer has to put up at least the pretense of a fuss in getting Cornyn’s amendment watered down a bit. Or this is standard Democratic “Gang of Eight” kabuki insofar as it’s aimed at convincing conservatives that they’re getting the better of Reid and Schumer somehow if/when the Democrats cave and agree to add Cornyn’s amendment to the bill. The same strategy is at work, I take it, in Pat Leahy’s decision to reintroduce his own amendment extending benefits in the bill to the spouses of gay illegals. It’s going to fail somehow, even if Republicans end up having to kill it by filibustering it, but that’s just fine to Schumer and Reid. It amounts to another conservative “win,” which makes the bill more tolerable to the righties who could conceivably kill it, and it gives Democrats a talking point to use against the GOP even if the bill ultimately passes. (“We wanted to include gay spouses but those hateful Republicans blocked us.”) Exit quotation from the mastermind himself, looking ahead to his big win: “Illegal immigration will be a thing of the past.”

Update: Surprise.

Cornyn discussed details of the amendment at a Republican senators’ lunch yesterday. The provisions were well received by all the GOP lawmakers, with the exception of Sen. Lindsey Graham, a Republican member of the Gang of Eight who has publicly expressed opposition to adding triggers that would cause Democrats to abandon the immigration deal. The question now is whether Republican senators, with the exception of Graham, will unite behind the bill. Even more crucial is the question of whether Sen. Marco Rubio, the leading Republican on the Gang and the one lawmaker many GOP senators look to for direction on this issue, will support the amendment.


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I plan on sending him a few $s. Keep us current on developments. Graham needs to go.

davidk on June 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Thanks. Obamanomics has left me unable to offer him much in the way of financial support, so I’m trying to help by getting the word out as much as I can. You’ll be hearing from me a lot about Richard Cash in the coming months.

backwoods conservative on June 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Paul Ryan: ‘I will debate anybody’ who says immigration bill is ‘amnesty’

Mitt Romney was actually the more conservative one on the 2012 GOP ticket. Paul Ryan is pure GOPe.

bw222 on June 12, 2013 at 5:24 PM

And:

Sarah Palin was actually the more conservative one on the 2008 GOP ticket. John McCain is pure GOPe.

davidk on June 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Hey Chuck – conservatives will not accept your amnesty bill, and frankly, would like to cordially invite you to shove it up your a$$ sideways.

Midas on June 12, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Paul Ryan: ‘I will debate anybody’ who says immigration bill is ‘amnesty’

Paul – You tried debating Joe Biden, a man with an IQ under 50. How’d that work out?

bw222 on June 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Rubio/Christie 2016

Can’t think of a better GOP ticket in terms of base turnout, can you?

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Midas on June 12, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Either Hannity is nothing but a republican establishment tool or he is just a dim bulb. I can hardly stand to hear him anymore because of his plodding, repetitive nature.

KickandSwimMom on June 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

This.

I stopped listening to him a *long* time ago because of this; just couldn’t stand it anymore.

Midas on June 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Either Hannity is nothing but a republican establishment tool or he is just a dim bulb. I can hardly stand to hear him anymore because of his plodding, repetitive nature.

KickandSwimMom on June 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

I vote Dim Bulb. Can’t stand him. Rush is the only one left I can listen to the doesn’t – rip off Rush.

oldroy on June 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Paul Ryan: ‘I will debate anybody’ who says immigration bill is ‘amnesty’

Except for Mark Levin apparently, lol. When asked earlier today to come on the show, Paul Ryan was unavailable.

xblade on June 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Midas on June 12, 2013 at 5:58 PM

It might get as many votes as the McCain ticket on a very, very, very good turnout.

chemman on June 12, 2013 at 6:17 PM

…it’s aimed at convincing conservatives that they’re getting the better of Reid and Schumer…It amounts to another conservative “win,” which makes the bill more tolerable to the righties who could conceivably kill it

Assuming Cornyn’s amendment is more window dressing for a disastrous bill:

We hear of “low information voters,” but how “low information” must “conservatives” and “righties” be to be enchanted by this kabuki?

Worse, either Republican senators are willing to go along with this Democratic dance so as to mislead their own base, or Republican senators are not bright enough to figure out that they are being manipulated by Reid/Schumer.

EastofEden on June 12, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Who says slavery was abolished at the end of the Civil War? Now, the slaves are coming willingly to us from our southern border and we don’t have to pay to transport them here. This is great! sarc/

TulsAmerican on June 12, 2013 at 6:26 PM

it’s aimed at convincing conservatives that they’re getting the better of Reid and Schumer…It amounts to another conservative “win,” which makes the bill more tolerable to the righties who could conceivably kill it

Yeah right. You can tell by the way Schumer smirks that Rubio is getting the better of him. Out foxed him right out of the box, first term.

Mimzey on June 12, 2013 at 7:00 PM

South Carolina, please primary Lindsey.

rbj on June 12, 2013 at 3:04 PM

We are.

http://www.richard-cash-for-senate.com/

A word from Lindsey Graham’s primary opponent on Rewarding Illegal Immigrants.

backwoods conservative on June 12, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Fantastic — I will help Mr. Cash all I can. Lindsey is a disgrace and a total fricking idiot.

Conservchik on June 12, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Fantastic — I will help Mr. Cash all I can. Lindsey is a disgrace and a total fricking idiot.

Conservchik on June 12, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Thanks! We need all the help we can get.

backwoods conservative on June 12, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Paul Ryan: ‘I will debate anybody’ who says immigration bill is ‘amnesty’

Mitt Romney was actually the more conservative one on the 2012 GOP ticket. Paul Ryan is pure GOPe.

bw222 on June 12, 2013 at 5:24 PM

And:

Ryan has been a sell out for a while now. I kept pointing out last year how his “numbers” are not even close to what they should be to solve the deficit problem. And if he is our best “numbers” guy in Congress, then it is easy to see why we are governed by 535+ idiots with IQs in low 2 digits (to be kind).

As an immigrant to this (once) great land, and I won’t even prefix it with “legal” since immigrant to me implies legal, I will be more than happy to debate Ryan and Gang of 8 on immigration issues. I would love them all to explain to me and millions of those like me who immigrated here by way of EXISTING USA LAWS on books, why is it that we had to apply all the required paperwork and patiently wait for an approval to enter the country. For those of us who abide by law, that is. We did not enter the borders illegally and we were more than happy to make sure that all laws were followed on our request to become immigrants.

Anyone in USA Congress who insists the system is broken is an utter moron and a LIAR. The system is broken only because LAWS are not enforced. Israel was able to build a wall in very short time with GREAT SUCCESS. What we should do is farm out the contract to build the wall and subsequent security to same Israeli firms that did such a PERFECT job there.

As for any illegal here, they should all go home and only then apply for immigrant status same way we did, by way of USA LAW. And make sure they specify they have already committed a crime against USA by illegally trespassing USA borders. Each and every country in the world, BY CURRENT LAW, has a quota pf 20K visas, that seems fair enough for me. If the QUOTA NUMBERS need to be increased, then sure, let’s discuss that, but no other concessions should be discussed nor laws changed in regard to immigration. SUPPORT LAWS ON BOOKS. END OF DISCUSSION.

Oh, and a discussion of 14th should be the first thing on the agenda, it was passed for very different reasons back then and is now being abused beyond comprehension.

riddick on June 12, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Either Hannity is nothing but a republican establishment tool or he is just a dim bulb. I can hardly stand to hear him anymore because of his plodding, repetitive nature.

KickandSwimMom on June 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

I’ll go with the second one, dim bulb.

Save for Gutfeld and West, no reason to see Fox News for some time now.

riddick on June 12, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Except for Mark Levin apparently, lol. When asked earlier today to come on the show, Paul Ryan was unavailable.

xblade on June 12, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Can he debate teh black and white pages of the bill itself? I have been reading it.

THEY ARE ALL LYING.

Read it:
http://cis.org/Border-Security-Economic-Opportunity-Immigration-Modernization-Act

115,000 h1-b visas PER YEAR. They have lost their minds.

dogsoldier on June 12, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Legalizing first the illegals is just rewarding these law breakers, and it makes the law abiding applicants look like suckers. It’s the main thing illegals want most of all. With that everything else will eventually follow, can’t be stopped, including full benefits and the right to be a Mexican national with US citizenship. Border security will become just a broken promise – if they really wanted border security and good visa tracking they would have passed such laws separately long ago.

This bill is a total con act by low-life sellouts.

Chessplayer on June 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Just in case you thought I was joking:

101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b) for each fiscal year shall be equal to—
16 ‘‘(i) the sum of—
17 ‘‘(I) the base allocation for the most recently
18 completed fiscal year; and
19 ‘‘(II) the allocation adjustment under sub20
paragraph (B) for the most recently completed
21 fiscal year;
22 ‘‘(ii) if the number calculated under clause (i) is
23 less than 115,000, 115,000; or
24 ‘‘(iii) if the number calculated under clause (i)
25 is more than 180,000, 180,000.

That’s on page 1627. there are several revisions in the PDF. They started out at 110k H1-bs and increased it.

dogsoldier on June 12, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Schumer! The anal polyp of the Democratic cyst party that keeps getting ‘air time’ Isn’t anyone articulate enough to ‘out’ human bio-hazard sludge?

RdLake on June 12, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Besides Sessions and Cruz (at least for the time being), IS THERE A CONSERVATIVE IN THE GOP HOUSE?

voiceofreason on June 12, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Cornyn is all but GUARANTEED a primary challenge. He seems to have forgotten to what end David Dewhurst came to-but next year-we Texan patriots will be reminding him!

annoyinglittletwerp on June 12, 2013 at 8:38 PM

I hope You send Cornyn home. AZ had the chance to send the McCainiac home, but failed in an epic manner. Hopefully, SC won’t fail herself and the country with little Miss Lindsey next year.

In NC, Burr had better wake up, or he will be facing a primary challenge next time he’s up. We’ve got to get these Quislings out of office and back where they can do no harm.

Quartermaster on June 12, 2013 at 9:16 PM

And who would think contagious ‘Scumbag Schumer’ would agree on this? Compromise is out of the question.

RdLake on June 13, 2013 at 9:25 AM

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