Oh, good: Obama administration sneaks more expensive carbon pricing into a microwave-oven rule

posted at 8:41 pm on June 12, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Never underestimate the sneakiness when you’re dealing with The Most Transparent Administration, Evah‘s tortured internal conflict between pretending to heed the voices calling for pragmatic economic growth and appeasing the vociferous green interests nipping at their heels. The Obama administration just threw a major bone to said interests with a reevaluation that’s going to come in particularly handy in producing very official- and serious-sounding studies and reports, but it was carried out in a very quiet maneuver that I’m sure they’re hoping will pass by the public eye generally unnoticed.

The Obama administration uses their “social cost of carbon” estimate as a tool to price out how environmentally costly they think proposed regulations are going to be, and they just significantly ramped up that price — and buried the move in a small rule about microwave ovens. Via Bloomberg:

The increase of the so-called social cost of carbon, to $38 a metric ton in 2015 from $23.80, adjusts the calculation the government uses to weigh costs and benefits of proposed regulations. The figure is meant to approximate losses from global warming such as flood damage and diminished crops. …

With the change, government actions that lead to cuts in emissions — anything from new mileage standards to clean-energy loans — will appear more valuable in its cost-benefit analyses. On the flip side, environmentalists urge that it be used to judge projects that could lead to more carbon pollution, such as TransCanada Corp. (TRP)’s Keystone pipeline or coal-mining by companies such as Peabody Energy Corp. (BTU) on public lands, which would be viewed as more costly….

Even supporters questioned the way the administration slipped the policy out without first opening it for public comment. The change was buried in an afternoon announcement on May 31 about efficiency standards for microwave ovens, a rule not seen as groundbreaking.

“This is a very strange way to make policy about something this important,” Frank Ackerman, an economist at Tufts University who published a book about the economics of global warming, said in an interview. The Obama administration “hasn’t always leveled with us about what is happening behind closed doors.”

No kidding. This is going to be a very useful mechanism for Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency, Department of Energy, and etcetera in justifying the economic costs of their many rules and regulations — and boy oh boy, does the EPA have big plans for us. It really is much better for them if, all of a sudden, their impact studies concerning their many zealous ideas for reshaping our energy sector start to sound ever so much worse — and heck, why should the public need to know the real reason why? It’s all for their own good, after all.

 


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I encourage all Americans to start stocking up on toilet paper. This administration seems to love the Soviet/Venezuela model of economic “stimulus”.

NotCoach on June 12, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Really?

VegasRick on June 12, 2013 at 8:48 PM

When a progressive uses the term, “social cost of (insert appropriate noun or verb here)”, it really means,

We are going to use non-quantifiable factors to justify regulations intended to destroy something we hate on purely emotive and dogmatic grounds. No facts required. Plus, we have the power, so therefore we can get away with it. Go F**k Yourselves, peasants.

That’s really all there is to it. And Hitler would be proud of them, Godwin’s Law be damned.

clear ether

eon

eon on June 12, 2013 at 8:49 PM

So is it time to run them out of town of a rail yet. Wake me when we are going to do more than b*tch about it.

chemman on June 12, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Clear and Transparent Hopey Changey HORSE PUCKEY.

RealMc on June 12, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Fuk you McCain, Rubio et al. This is who you eat with and hj?

arnold ziffel on June 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Nothing in my left hand nothing in my right but up my sleeve I have more regulations for you peon Tea Party types. This will have no effect on the moochers.

tim c on June 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM

The figure is meant to approximate losses from global warming such as flood damage and diminished crops. …

Horseshit. How’s that for a carbon footprint. You can’t even crap anymore without someone taxing it.

Every time there’s a hurricane or tornado or heat warning or flood I can imagine the ghouls in the Obama admin rubbing their palms together with glee, as it reinforces their meme that global warming is harming the country.

/THEY’RE the ones harming the country!

Paul-Cincy on June 12, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Wow Erika, another 15 comments or less post. Why don’t you report on this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/12/gop-congressman-rate-of-pregnancies-from-rape-is-very-low/

Bet you it will get at least 300 comments.

HotAirLib on June 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM

It’s all the damn marathoners and bicyclists pumping all that extra CO2 into the environment.

Selfish B@astards.

Hey, how many kilocalories in a round of golf?

WryTrvllr on June 12, 2013 at 9:04 PM

This 4th bunch of government needs to be dismantled and every rule they made destroyed.

jawkneemusic on June 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Yes, but there is no global warming!

In fact, it has gotten cooler over the last sixteen years.

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/trend.gif?w=640&h=480

Viator on June 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM

It’s not math, it’s arithmatic.

wolly4321 on June 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM

*branch

jawkneemusic on June 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Wow Erika, another 15 comments or less post. Why don’t you report on this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/12/gop-congressman-rate-of-pregnancies-from-rape-is-very-low/

Bet you it will get at least 300 comments.

HotAirLib on June 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM

yeah Erika. Next time just type “guns”

I guess resident Lib can’t think of anything to type worth reading.

WryTrvllr on June 12, 2013 at 9:06 PM

HotAirLib on June 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM

well, with 1/2 the possibly fertile women in this country on birth control, then…..

WryTrvllr on June 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Stay on topic hal/douche.

wolly4321 on June 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM

will the ovens be carbon neutral?

tom daschle concerned on June 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM

TDC- not if they are microwave, apparently.

wolly4321 on June 12, 2013 at 9:14 PM

King Barry isn’t interested in public comment. The proles will do as they’re told. And like it!

GarandFan on June 12, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Stay on topic hal/douche.

wolly4321 on June 12, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Just ignore it. I’ve done so since it’s been here.

cheers

eon

eon on June 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM

They won’t be happy till we’re dead.

Alana on June 12, 2013 at 9:22 PM

HotAirLib on June 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM

If you had read the whole article you would know he was talking about someone waiting until she was 6 months pregnant before deciding to abort.

What person that was raped and found out they we pregnant would wait that long.

IDIOT.

Barred on June 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM

They won’t be happy till we’re dead.

Alana on June 12, 2013 at 9:22 PM

You got that right.

http://news.yahoo.com/burning-deceased-baby-boomers-could-generate-electricity-175405511.html

So, does that make people with a high BMI, like, a national resource or something?

WryTrvllr on June 12, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I just love the way ethanol helped us all, another brilliant decision by the green freaks.

- gas prices went up
- corn prices went up
- carburetors filled with gunk

Idiots.

fogw on June 12, 2013 at 9:32 PM

It is just about time for us (in our millions) to load up the station wagon and head for Washington D.C., bringing what ever we need to cause the change we need in the dictatorship we seem to be stuck with.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on June 12, 2013 at 9:35 PM

That’s really all there is to it. And Hitler would be proud of them, Godwin’s Law be damned.

And the Law n Order types will march with all the other lemmings right over the cliff instead of tar and feathering a few thousand EPA cubicle rats and their DoJ thugs.

Does indoctrinating millions of schoolchildren to have panic attacks at seeing even the picture of a firearm make sense now?

iconoclast on June 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on June 12, 2013 at 9:35 PM

I’m starting to agree.

John the Libertarian on June 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Wow Erika, another 15 comments or less post. Why don’t you report on this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/12/gop-congressman-rate-of-pregnancies-from-rape-is-very-low/

Bet you it will get at least 300 comments.

HotAirLib on June 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Given that Barack Obama and Obama supporters support and endorse rape and call for conservatives to be raped, what exactly is this pig complaining about?

Why not answer that question, HAL? Why do Obama supporters like yourself endorse rape? Why do you practice rape? Why do you openly cover up when you rape children, as Planned Parenthood does?

northdallasthirty on June 12, 2013 at 9:44 PM

We are so screwed.

AZCoyote on June 12, 2013 at 9:44 PM

The only time the mooching class will wake up is when things from this lying government affects them in their comfy zone. But by then it’ll be so late all we can say is, “We told you so.”

Liam on June 12, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Does indoctrinating millions of schoolchildren to have panic attacks at seeing even the picture of a firearm make sense now?

iconoclast on June 12, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Certainly, if your endgame objective is to create the sort of sheep who will submit to being sheared as needed, and made into mutton when their “owners” think it would be fun to do so.

Oh, dear, now I’ve gone and given the progressive game away.

Whatever will I do?

/channeling Bugs Bunny, here.

cheers

eon

eon on June 12, 2013 at 9:47 PM

HotLips on June 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM

…yep…just keep polishing your nob!

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 9:49 PM

For one thing, even if there was global warming traceable to human carbon use, there is no evidence it would cause diminished crop output. In fact, it would extend growing seasons and increase the amount of arable land – as has every warming period since the dawn of agriculture.

So they make false assumptions, assign arbitrary costs to them, and then regulate as much as they want.

It’s time to hang them all.

Adjoran on June 12, 2013 at 10:21 PM

AZCoyote- yep.

You say that on a lot of threads,, and I just nod in agreement.

wolly4321 on June 12, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Is it 2016 yet?

Oxymoron on June 12, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Environmental Protection Agency, Department of Energy, and etcetera in justifying the economic costs of their many rules and regulations — and boy oh boy, does the EPA have big plans for us.

When you regulate the environment you regulate and control the universe, that’s exactly what the totalitarian left loves.

RJL on June 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Isn’t carbon dioxide off the hook now, since we know there’s been no warming the past 15 years? It doesn’t make any sense.

TarheelBen on June 13, 2013 at 12:33 AM

And to think that microwaving is one of the most efficient, least fuel intensive, and therefore ‘greenest’ form of cooking ever invented. If they wanted to cut ‘carbon emissions’ they would be putting a rebate sticker on every microwave oven around… instead they wish to tax the cost of carbon use, period.

Remember YOU are a carbon based life form.

ajacksonian on June 13, 2013 at 6:35 AM

Don’t worry. All’s well.

Mcgilla can still take 300-500 of her friends on a vacay on Air Force one to some exotic 5 star resort. AF 1 burns very little carbon.

That’s all that really matters.

acyl72 on June 13, 2013 at 7:25 AM

It is just about time for us (in our millions) to load up the station wagon and head for Washington D.C., bringing what ever we need to cause the change we need in the dictatorship we seem to be stuck with.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on June 12, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Yeah, because it worked out so well for the Bonus Marchers. Now, if you get Louis Farrakhan to back us…different story.

But, do remember that these congress critters are (for the most part) back home a good part of the year. We need to be protesting them in our respective states and districts. TEA Party events are fine, but we need to be organized to show up when and where the Pols will be speaking.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 13, 2013 at 2:22 PM