Cincinnati IRS employees lash out at Lerner’s “nuclear strike” on them

posted at 10:01 pm on June 12, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

Elizabeth Hofacre does not go under the bus quietly:

Elizabeth Hofacre, who coordinated ”emerging issues” cases for the IRS and handled all tea-party applications between April and August 2010, called Lerner’s May 10 disclosure of the scandal at a tax-law conference ”a nuclear strike” on Cincinnati employees. Hofacre told House Oversight Committee investigators in an interview, the transcript of which has been reviewed by National Review Online, that her boss immediately called her to apologize on Lerner’s behalf, presumably because “she was flabbergasted that Lois had made such a statement” and “appalled that Lois Lerner said that.” …

Upon hearing this, “I was furious,” Hofacre told investigators.

Hofacre also charged that top brass in the IRS, including Lerner, misled the public by blaming the scandal on a few rogue employees. “Everybody that has been making those statements should know they are inaccurate,” Hofacre said. Asked whether “the public has been purposely misled,” Hofacre responded, “Exactly.”

Hofacre also described the process Tea Parties were put into as, “‘These cases were basically in a black hole,’ she told internal IRS reviewers in 2012,” and said she was “micromanaged to death” by a Washington IRS lawyer. Eliana Johnson has reported before that lawyers with Washington’s technical unit frequently advised on Tea Party cases.

A USA Today report today shed some more light on how the targeting might have started and how it was allowed to continue. It did indeed start in Cincinnati, but was quickly and regularly sent up to Washington for guidance and affirmed and helped along the way:

The Tea Party affair started with a Feb. 25, 2010 e-mail from Cincinnati-based IRS agent Jack Koester to his boss, Screening Group Manager John Shafer. Shafer, in turn, sent it to his superiors, including some Washington staff, elevating it as a “high profile case.”

The Cincinnati employees weren’t quite sure what the Tea Party was, but they knew it was politically sensitive. “This case will be sent to inventory for further development. Political campaigns on behalf (of) or in opposition to any political candidate do not promote social welfare,” Shafer wrote to his bosses. The Tea Party groups were seeking tax exempt status as “social welfare” groups.

A few days later, Shafer came back to Muthert asking him to look up how many Tea Party cases had been received, and how many had already been approved. “He told me that Washington, D.C wanted some cases,” Muthert said, according tot he transcripts.

Shafer, though, told congressional investigators that he asked for the list on his own — not on orders from Washington. “No one said to make a search,” he said.

“Based on what I saw at the time, this organization is something — I don’t know what it is, but it is something that appears to be growing, some type of movement,” Muthert said. “So when I was asked to research the Tea Parties, it was like OK, I understand why you would want me to look at these cases and see if there is going to be a million coming in or not.”

Muthert began flagging the Tea Party cases as an “emerging issue,” meaning that the cases might raise new legal issues that should be looked at by tax law specialists. In effect, that meant that the Tea Party cases were put in a “holding pattern,” Muthert said.

In other good news, the IRS is training with AR-15s. Considering who it has targeted in the past, the agency might want to consider its foes likely have equal fire power.

Rep. Jeff Duncan wants to know why IRS law enforcement agents are training with AR-15 rifles.

As chairman of the House Homeland Security oversight subcommittee, Duncan (R-S.C.) toured a federal law enforcement facility in late May and noticed agents training with the semi-automatic weapons at a firing range. They identified themselves as IRS, he said.

“When I left there, it’s been bugging me for weeks now, why IRS agents are training with a semi-automatic rifle AR-15, which has stand-off capability,” Duncan told POLITICO. “Are Americans that much of a target that you need that kind of capability?”

While Duncan acknowledges that the IRS has an enforcement division, he questions if that level of firepower is appropriate when they could coordinate operations with other agencies, like the FBI, especially in a time of austerity.

But on the bright side, the agency canceled an order for surveillance equipment. I’m feeling better already.


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…get that Lerner beyotch!

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Rep. Jeff Duncan wants to know why IRS law enforcement agents are training with AR-15 rifles

…HomeLand Security has been buying ammo like crazy…are they afraid the masses might all wake up…at the same time?

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:05 PM

“When I left there, it’s been bugging me for weeks now, why IRS agents are training with a semi-automatic rifle AR-15, which has stand-off capability,”

 
Because Obamacare isn’t going to enforce itself, racists.

rogerb on June 12, 2013 at 10:06 PM

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Why are they involved in investigating/tracking down a Nazi diary? That bewildered me. Did you read that?
What is their role there?
To learn more tricks?

bazil9 on June 12, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Muthert began flagging the Tea Party cases as an “emerging issue,” meaning that the cases might raise new legal issues that should be looked at by tax law specialists. In effect, that meant that the Tea Party cases were put in a “holding pattern,” Muthert said.

…the IRS figures the Tea Party may come after them…therefore the AR-15′s?…what happened to a couple of shotgun blasts through the front door?

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Hofacre also described the process Tea Parties were put into as, “‘These cases were basically in a black hole,’ she told internal IRS reviewers in 2012,” and said she was “micromanaged to death” by a Washington IRS lawyer.

…named Hull, Carter C: Democrat.

Resist We Much on June 12, 2013 at 10:09 PM

The good news is it won’t be reported by the MSM. So there’s that.

John the Libertarian on June 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:03 PM

We need to take an ax to the Gang Green Govt.
Chop chop- Beeee Otch!

bazil9 on June 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM

“i just found out last friday” my ass.

phatfawzi on June 12, 2013 at 10:11 PM

…these people are out of fvking control!

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:13 PM

With the records for dissembling being set by the administration these days, I wouldn’t assume the cancellation of the proposed order for spy equipment means very much. They’ll just hide the purchase in their next Star Trek set design, or their next conference swag bag order or the like.

These scum balls are clever. Watch them carefully!

MTF on June 12, 2013 at 10:13 PM

When Sue Martinek, President of the Coalition for Life of Iowa, testified to the House Ways and Means Committee, she said they were targeted in 2009.

“In June of 2009, [IRS Agent] Richards told me verbally that we needed to send in a letter with the entire board’s signatures stating that under penalty of perjury we would not picket/protest or organize groups to picket/protest outside of Planned Parenthood,” Martinek said. “Upon receiving such a letter, she indicated that the IRS would allow our application to go through.”

“[T]he IRS continued questioning us,” Martinek continued. “On June 22, 2009, IRS Agent Richards sent us additional written requests, as follows: ‘Please explain how all of your activities, including the prayer meetings held outside of Planned Parenthood are considered educational as defined under 501(c)(3).”

I don’t know if Richards was out of the Cincinnati office, but conservatives started being target pretty quick off the dime after Obama became President.

INC on June 12, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Whats the difference…h clinton, 2013

crosshugger on June 12, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Just think..7 months away from the OB care timeline to go into full, near implementation . Hmm hmmmm hmmmmmmm.

bazil9 on June 12, 2013 at 10:15 PM

ROFL

Did these effers think their pathetic excuses would be accepted?

Bishop on June 12, 2013 at 10:16 PM

…don’t forget Ms. Lerner is on PAID LEAVE!…for what?…the next few decades?

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:17 PM

A USA Today report today shed some more light on how the targeting might have started and how it was allowed to continue

…wonder if JugEars read the paper today?

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:19 PM

By morning, Hofacre will be labeled a ‘disgruntled employee’ by the Obama media.

Liam on June 12, 2013 at 10:19 PM

called Lerner’s May 10 disclosure of the scandal at a tax-law conference ”a nuclear strike” on Cincinnati employees

I believe Lerner’s exact words were: “It was the video.”

flicker on June 12, 2013 at 10:21 PM

…don’t forget Ms. Lerner is on PAID LEAVE!…for what?…the next few decades?

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:17 PM

And IRS computer access?

flicker on June 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM

I brought up Sue Martinek because I keep seeing this 2010 date as the start of IRS targeting, but it had already begun.

Remember Rick Santelli’s rant was February 19, 2009. Obama had not even been president for one month when Santelli called for a Tea Party. There were Stimulus protests/Tea Parties occurring pretty quickly.

I’m sure plans were made ASAP to block those quarrelsome citizens. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to learn they were ready to go from Day One. Obama and Jarrett’s remarks early on certainly support that.

INC on June 12, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Because Obamacare isn’t going to enforce itself, racists.

rogerb on June 12, 2013 at 10:06 PM

And, nothing says “quality, affordable health care for all” like the chatter of high capacity weapons fire.

massrighty on June 12, 2013 at 10:24 PM

We need to take an ax to the Gang Green Govt.
Chop chop- Beeee Otch!

bazil9 on June 12, 2013 at 10:10 PM

You misspelled Gangrenous.

RickB on June 12, 2013 at 10:24 PM

You WILL pay your 50% Estate tax……..NOW!!!!!

WryTrvllr on June 12, 2013 at 10:26 PM

INC on June 12, 2013 at 10:24 PM

agreeing with you.
So many puzzle pieces all fitting together
now in hind site.

bazil9 on June 12, 2013 at 10:27 PM

bazil9 on June 12, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Yep.

I like the idea of calling all those Senate Gangs the Gangrene.

They’re certainly putrid and life-threatening to the body politic.

INC on June 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM

RickB on June 12, 2013 at 10:24 PM

why thank you rick.
Typing fast and distracted-
Was thinking of a band named Gang Green-popped in my head.

bazil9 on June 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM

We are the IRS and we are here to help you.

Axion on June 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Well since they could never answer my tax questions, maybe they can recommend a good copper fouling solvent.

WryTrvllr on June 12, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Yep.

I like the idea of calling all those Senate Gangs the Gangrene.

They’re certainly putrid and life-threatening to the body politic.

INC on June 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM

What it reminds me of. Triple G.
You can see/feel the rot.
Why need an amputation. Many.

bazil9 on June 12, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Why=We

hell, I am not even drinking. lol

bazil9 on June 12, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Axion on June 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM

“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’”
–Ronald Reagan

INC on June 12, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Well since they could never answer my tax questions…

WryTrvllr on June 12, 2013 at 10:33 PM

…isn’t that the truth!…do they ever know anything?…wtf do they think we are calling THEM for?

KOOLAID2 on June 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM

You fellows best train up real good with those AR 15′s.

Bmore on June 12, 2013 at 10:39 PM

… and Lerner is still on the payroll, if what was reported today is accurate.

Midas on June 12, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Elizabeth Hofacre, meet Joe the Plumber.

ardenenoch on June 12, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Internal Revenue Shooters

ghostwalker1 on June 12, 2013 at 11:34 PM

It seems like many federal departments have little armies. Why?

Hillary’s army seems to engage in orgies and the like, so perhaps they are not needed for security.

PattyJ on June 12, 2013 at 11:48 PM

The Cincinnati employees weren’t quite sure what the Tea Party was, but they knew it was politically sensitive.

This guy had to be brain dead. I live in the Cincinnati area, and there was tea party activity all around this area.

Regarding that Hofacre woman, I’ll bet she’s a tough old broad from the West Side, and she ain’t gonna take any shite from DC elites. My guess is that she has a picture of the Pope in her house and a picture of Pete Rose in her house–and the picture of Pete Rose is in a nicer frame and sits in a more prominent place. I haven’t seen a picture of her, but I’d howl if it turns out that she a carbon copy of Marge Schott. If she is, the IRS DC office will need to take her out with a nuclear weapon to shut her up.

BuckeyeSam on June 12, 2013 at 11:59 PM

When budgets flow, freedom must go.

HopeHeFails on June 13, 2013 at 12:02 AM

So are Koester and Shafer the supposed rogue Cincinnati IRS folks who started this ball rolling by seeking clarification? Oh and am I suppose to buy that they hadn’t heard of the Tea Party? Also, why would ACORN be considered an entity that promotes social welfare? Because it promotes people getting on welfare?

Cindy Munford on June 13, 2013 at 12:31 AM

I don’t know if Richards was out of the Cincinnati office, but conservatives started being target pretty quick off the dime after Obama became President.
INC on June 12, 2013 at 10:13 PM

The Tea Party started in February ’09, right after Rick Santelli’s rant. Obama was already pushing Nationalized Health Care. Remember when he said something about nurses buck up their patients? All hail the Great Orator! But I digress. Anyway, I remember seeing someone with an “Obama bucked up America” sign. I still have that sign. I mean, uh, a picture. I still have a picture of that sign. Heil Obama!

txhsmom on June 13, 2013 at 12:46 AM

While we are all thrilled about scandalpalooza, this crap is going to pass.

Cindy Munford on June 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Wrong thread.

Cindy Munford on June 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Seems like a few law suits are loosening things up.

I suggest a suitapalloza. Sue them in every court in the land.

In fact, lessons on how to bring a law suit might be tax deductible.

Lonetown on June 13, 2013 at 5:33 AM

So… when are Sarah Ingram and Lois Lerner going to prison?

locomotivebreath1901 on June 13, 2013 at 6:17 AM

The Cincinnati employees weren’t quite sure what the Tea Party was, but they knew it was politically sensitive.

Baloney

forest on June 13, 2013 at 6:42 AM

The Cincinnati employees weren’t quite sure what the Tea Party was, but they knew it was politically sensitive.

Baloney

forest on June 13, 2013 at 6:42 AM

I agree. It is absolutely absurd to think that those Cincinnati critters are innocent. They may have not been calling the shots but they knew what was going on from the beginning. They just resent the way that DC is trying to scapegoat them.

Happy Nomad on June 13, 2013 at 7:01 AM

Hey Supreme Court!… How do you and the Constitution square this question? Why does the IRS (a non-military division of the Gov’t) need HI-CAP AR-15′s for self-defense, when ordinary citizens in NY are only allowed 7-rounds for self-defense??? The Constitution is clear and absolute on this issue … ‘The right to bear arms shall not be infringed’

RedManBlueState on June 13, 2013 at 11:12 AM

The Cincinnati employees weren’t quite sure what the Tea Party was, but they knew it was politically sensitive.

“Based on what I saw at the time, this organization is something — I don’t know what it is, but it is something that appears to be growing, some type of movement,”

Do these guys live in a bubble? Noooo idea what the Tea Party is, huh?
Bull F’ing Shite.

Hill60 on June 13, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Rep. Jeff Duncan wants to know why IRS law enforcement agents are training with AR-15 rifles.

As chairman of the House Homeland Security oversight subcommittee, Duncan (R-S.C.) toured a federal law enforcement facility in late May and noticed agents training with the semi-automatic weapons at a firing range. They identified themselves as IRS, he said.

“When I left there, it’s been bugging me for weeks now, why IRS agents are training with a semi-automatic rifle AR-15, which has stand-off capability,” Duncan told POLITICO. “Are Americans that much of a target that you need that kind of capability?”

While Duncan acknowledges that the IRS has an enforcement division, he questions if that level of firepower is appropriate when they could coordinate operations with other agencies, like the FBI, especially in a time of austerity.

Because it’s an effective weapon choice, probably. Contrary to the demonization the left normally applies to “assault weapons,” it’s not really significant unless they start using automatic AR-15s, not just semi-automatic.

Of course, that still raises the question of why the IRS needs weapons at all….

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM

So, according to the DOJ, asking for voter I.D. is voter suppression. What is holding up the applications of 500 groups that presented a different point of view from the administration? I’m waiting for someone to convince me this didn’t have a major effect on the last election.

bflat879 on June 13, 2013 at 2:09 PM

The IRS has become HAL … it has come alive,
and it doesn’t like YOU very much.

A serious and I do mean SERIOUS housecleaning is required starting two years ago. I’m thinking premature & mandatory (read: FORCED) retirements across the board for any manager at GS-14 and above in any IRS office that even had a hint of what JugEars and his crimial Chicago Mob minions were up to.
Oh, and they get special audits from now until they are food for worms. Then audit their offspring and other close family members for two decades minimum.
Audit everyone at CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, SeeBS, NPR, NYT, WaPo, along with anyone in or associated with the rest of the Manure Stream Media.

Missilengr on June 13, 2013 at 3:03 PM