Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on June 9, 2013 by Allahpundit

Any guesses as to what’ll be the hot topic for this morning’s yakfest?

Your pick: An intel extravaganza on ABC with Dianne Feinstein, Mike Rogers, and NSA critic Mark Udall or an extended chat with Rand Paul about the libertarian implications of PRISM on Fox News. If neither sounds appetizing, try “Face the Nation” on CBS for a salute to Rep. John Dingell, who just set a new record for grotesque congressional careerism in the House.

McCain will be on a few shows too because it’s Sunday and that’s just the way it is. Why Ron Wyden, who’s challenged the White House before on FISA and has worked with Paul on transparency issues, isn’t scheduled to appear this morning is beyond me. Politico has the full line-up.


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It would be growing even faster than that if working parents could figure out how to do it. Honestly, another wide open market is a system in which working parents can homeschool.

ORconservative on June 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM

I’d like to see small co-op schools form. Maybe as little as ten families get together and share out the teaching duties according to their backgrounds and their own education.

slickwillie2001 on June 9, 2013 at 10:58 AM

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM

gotcha

there was an idiot with a flare that came onto the court…

cmsinaz on June 9, 2013 at 10:59 AM

After all you’s guys are just “hay” in the big old “Hay Stack” and a few bad neddles somehow just appeard one day next door. Now the two party evil money cult who left the borders open, never checked on over stayed visas, never did proper back ground checks on the neddles when they should have are in your bed sheets with you looking up your rectum for the bad neddles.

If the two party evil money cult now gets U.S. in a rage over being such a pain in the ass,,, well, well, well,,, they have the even bigger lies ready to use.

It is never them, it is always U.S. who is at fault.

We are all just a Hay Stack now.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

hese unconstitutional intrusions and IRS terrorist tactics are designed to keep the Democrats in power and the population under duress, plain and simple.

Philly on June 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM

I am calling out my big guns on libs who are ignoring the voyeur Gestapo.

In Kenneth Clarke’s iconic book Civilisation, technology was specifically cited as a tool with which a minority can enslave a larger population.

How dare any liberal argue with a European intellectual who was an art historian with a huge book to his credit and a series on PBS.

IlikedAUH2O on June 9, 2013 at 11:06 AM

odd too also

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2013 at 11:10 AM

It is never them, it is always U.S. who is at fault.

We are all just a Hay Stack now.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

You are wonderful. YES! These Sunday talk shows and our culture illuminate a wrong headed, self destructive society.

Speaking of epic tomes, the homicidal and suicidal predilection of Christians in history is available online!

http://chechar.wordpress.com/category/dark-ages/

No, I’m sure not bashing Jesus or Catholics. I’m believing in God since I just had a miracle happen which I predicted to the guy when I got him a new Jetta.

Well, it was a miracle to me…

IlikedAUH2O on June 9, 2013 at 11:21 AM

************* BoundLess InFormant Program ******************

Boundless Informant:

the NSA’s secret tool to track global surveillance dataRevealed: The NSA’s powerful tool for cataloguing global surveillance data – including figures on US collection

• Boundless Informant: mission outlined in four slides
• Read the NSA’s frequently asked questions document

Glenn Greenwald and Ewen MacAskill
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 9 June 2013 15.08 BST
********************************************
MAP

The color scheme ranges from green (least subjected to surveillance) through yellow and orange to red (most surveillance). Note the ’2007′ date in the image relates to the document from which the interactive map derives its top secret classification, not to the map itself.
______________________________________

The National Security Agency has developed a powerful tool for recording and analysing where its intelligence comes from, raising questions about its repeated assurances to Congress that it cannot keep track of all the surveillance it performs on American communications.

The Guardian has acquired top-secret documents about the NSA datamining tool, called Boundless Informant, that details and even maps by country the voluminous amount of information it collects from computer and telephone networks.

The focus of the internal NSA tool is on counting and categorizing the records of communications, known as metadata, rather than the content of an email or instant message.

The Boundless Informant documents show the agency collecting almost 3 billion pieces of intelligence from US computer networks over a 30-day period ending in March 2013. One document says it is designed to give NSA officials answers to questions like, “What type of coverage do we have on country X” in “near real-time by asking the SIGINT [signals intelligence] infrastructure.”
(More….)
==========

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-informant-global-datamining

canopfor on June 9, 2013 at 11:21 AM

also too odd

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM

You have to trust that they will not be checking who sends money to Ted Cruz and or Rand Paul for President.

Clear it is we can all trust the made members of the two party evil money cult.

Just ask Lois Lehner.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM

NOW we know why the corrupt media had to make sure President Ostalin got 4 more years to entrench the Democrat Party fascism.

2016 Campaign theme against Madame Hillary……..

We will not spy on you ?

FlaMurph on June 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Nadal wins in 3 sets! That’s a bad omen for 0dumba! :)

Anti-Control on June 9, 2013 at 11:31 AM

NOW we know why the corrupt media had to make sure President Ostalin got 4 more years to entrench the Democrat Party fascism.

2016 Campaign theme against Madame Hillary……..

We will not spy on you ?

FlaMurph on June 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM

I see a new movie being put out featuring the NSA/TSA – “The Spy Who Gloved Me”.

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 11:32 AM

For you Tennis Peeps!

Rafael Nadal wins his 8th French Open title, beating David Ferrer 6-3, 6-2, 6-3 – @TelegraphSport
Story metadata:

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http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on June 9, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Anybody else with a mac having problemos with server crashing etc.?

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM

interstate thievery…SICK!

” MOORE, Okla. (AP) — Authorities say looters have come from as far away as New York and Virginia to steal from victims of last month’s tornado in Moore, Okla.

The Oklahoman reports ( http://bit.ly/18UQjGJ ) that police arrested one man from Elmhurst, N.Y., and two from Virginia on misdemeanor complaints of stealing copper wire, scrap metal and other items from homes destroyed by the May 20 tornado. Twenty-four people were killed.

Several Moore residents were also arrested on similar misdemeanor complaints.

Residents have filed theft reports for such items as a $50,000 watch, a $13,000 watch, a $2,000 fountain pen and a $1,300 hunting camera.”

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OKLAHOMA_TORNADO_LOOTERS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-06-08-19-08-56

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 11:43 AM


US Senate immigration reform deal Sen. Kelly Ayotte endorses the Senate Gang of Eight immigration bill – @politico
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Report of US mining Internet company data

US government secretly accessing phone records

Sen. Udall: ‘My main concern is Americans don’t know the extent to which they are being surveilled’ – @NBCNews
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Submitted 38 mins ago from nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com by editor
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http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on June 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM

The Oklahoman reports ( http://bit.ly/18UQjGJ ) that police arrested one man from Elmhurst, N.Y., and two from Virginia on misdemeanor complaints of stealing copper wire, scrap metal and other items from homes destroyed by the May 20 tornado. Twenty-four people were killed.

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 11:43 AM

The police knew they were from out of town when the scumbag thieves were overheard asking directions to Monroe, OK.

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Anybody else with a mac having problemos with server crashing etc.?

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM

workingclass artist:

I don’t have a Mac,but a Compaq POS computer.

Scarred to death to open,no more than two tabs,
and I’ve re-booted about 10 times since early
this morning,F’N NightMarish:)

canopfor on June 9, 2013 at 11:52 AM

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OKLAHOMA_TORNADO_LOOTERS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-06-08-19-08-56

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 11:43 AM

workingclass artist:Saw,

er,seen that on the news wires earlier,just the headline.

Yup,real low lifes:)

canopfor on June 9, 2013 at 11:58 AM

We are all just a Hay Stack now.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

I said something very similar to neighbors last night who came up with the “I don’t care, I’m not doing anything wrong” response to the data mining.

I asked them if they knew exactly who is deciding what’s right and wrong today? Who will be deciding tomorrow?

Fallon on June 9, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I’ve never seen a panel on This Week that wasn’t heavily weighted to Democrats and the Left before.

Krugman seems mightily restrained, and Keith Ellison actually appeared to be rational and avoided being patently offensive. Stepsalotinit did try to defend and misrepresent the situation with #NSA eavesdropping, to the point of suggesting it isn’t’ really news and we have known it all along!!!(Only the WH could be behind anything that preposterous.)

novaculus on June 9, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Anybody else with a mac having problemos with server crashing etc.?

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM

workingclass artist:

I don’t have a Mac,but a Compaq POS computer.

Scarred to death to open,no more than two tabs,
and I’ve re-booted about 10 times since early
this morning,F’N NightMarish:)

canopfor on June 9, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Macs don’t usually crash.

Both Firefox & now Safari repeatedly crashing…and this has been over the last month….kinda coincides with heavy coverage & commentary on IRS – AP/Surveillance coverage…

Or weird google stuff…cause google is being exceptionally wierd, but I assumed that’s the chaos in preparation for the impeding google reader shutdown and users shift…

It’s annoying as hell…and I’m not ready for my mac overhaul yet…planned to do that after I finish the Colo. job at the end of summer.

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:01 PM

I asked them if they knew exactly who is deciding what’s right and wrong today? Who will be deciding tomorrow?

Fallon on June 9, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I had the exact same conversation with a guy at work. I don’t think he has ever been very political before but has been looking much deeper into things lately. This is our hope.

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Will they discuss the attack in Santa Monica by a man named:

John Zawahri?

Not much discussion of this story…

dogsoldier on June 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM

We are all just a Hay Stack now.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

I said something very similar to neighbors last night who came up with the “I don’t care, I’m not doing anything wrong” response to the data mining.

I asked them if they knew exactly who is deciding what’s right and wrong today? Who will be deciding tomorrow?

Fallon on June 9, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Yeah.

It’s scary how people fall into the rationalization tunnel of…so what?

Of course this attitude changes when they get some TSA style Love Pats from local LEO’s who pull them over for a busted tail light.

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM

The Oklahoman reports ( http://bit.ly/18UQjGJ ) that police arrested one man from Elmhurst, N.Y., and two from Virginia on misdemeanor complaints of stealing copper wire, scrap metal and other items from homes destroyed by the May 20 tornado. Twenty-four people were killed.

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Misdemeanor?

Looters should be punished harshly.

dogsoldier on June 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Misdemeanor?

Looters should be punished harshly.

dogsoldier on June 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM

The looters should feel lucky that the police got them and not some of the local folks.

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 12:12 PM

I asked them if they knew exactly who is deciding what’s right and wrong today? Who will be deciding tomorrow?

Fallon on June 9, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I had the exact same conversation with a guy at work. I don’t think he has ever been very political before but has been looking much deeper into things lately. This is our hope.

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Keep workin’ on them.

It boils down to a favored class deciding on a secretive flexible criteria when a crime occurs…and this favored class isn’t accountable to any oversight.

Worked on a fancy jobsite once about 15 years ago.

The owner had a law firm in Houston devoted to suing contractors cause he didn’t want to pay his bills.

The small independents ended up eating the cost because they couldn’t afford the legal bills and leans take forever.

Aristocrats tend to think like that…And DC is filled with wannabe Aristocrats.

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Misdemeanor?

Looters should be punished harshly.

dogsoldier on June 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM

The looters should feel lucky that the police got them and not some of the local folks.

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 12:12 PM

VA to OK is about 1000 mi.
NY to OK is about 1300 mi.

Aside from being a scummy thing to do…How desperate do ya have to be to drive that far to commit the scummy crime?

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Keep workin’ on them.
It boils down to a favored class deciding on a secretive flexible criteria when a crime occurs…and this favored class isn’t accountable to any oversight.

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Yep. The IRS/TP scandal chills a lot of people to the bone. Hopefully it’s not too late.

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM

VA to OK is about 1000 mi.
NY to OK is about 1300 mi.

Aside from being a scummy thing to do…How desperate do ya have to be to drive that far to commit the scummy crime?

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Like I said before:

The police knew they were from out of town when the scumbag thieves were overheard asking directions to Monroe, OK.

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 11:47 AM

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Yep. The IRS/TP scandal chills a lot of people to the bone. Hopefully it’s not too late.

VegasRick on June 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM

It should.

The IRS can seize your money & property…and tie folks up in a legal hell hole for as long as they want because where the IRS is concerned they adopt the French Philosophy of guilty until proven innocent.

Looks like the same faulty reasoning is being used to justify seizing and storing massive amounts of data…to be used as Big Gubmint sees fit when it sees fit.

What we type now…may be a crime later & used as evidence later to support a pattern of dissidence.

Of course this country was founded on dissidence…but that was a long time ago & now dissidence is approved by the Borg.

So…

Enviro-moonbats
SSM’s Bullies
Unions
OFA
NAACP
La Raza
Feminazis
Eugenicists
Black Panthers
CAIR
ACORN
Occupy whatever

And every other nut-job moonbat activist org…pre-approved,pre-paid & pre-organized….

Astroturf Fascist bullying…It’s what’s for breakfast

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Aside from being a scummy thing to do…How desperate do ya have to be to drive that far to commit the scummy crime?

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:18 PM

As my leo friend said:

If criminals were smart most wouldn’t be criminals. They would get elected…

Also, there is a BS grapevine in the penal chapters of the criminal community where tales of riches for the taking are a favorite. Just picking up valuables on the street is a myth which got wide currency after Katrina and those guys may have been waiting for a disaster for years.

Virginia has a good economy and the crooks were white.

Well you asked..

IlikedAUH2O on June 9, 2013 at 12:34 PM

The murders in the book and film In Cold Blood were set up by criminals speaking of hidden cash in the farmhouse of the victims.

IlikedAUH2O on June 9, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Virginia has a good economy and the crooks were white.

Well you asked..

IlikedAUH2O on June 9, 2013 at 12:34 PM

WTH has happened to VA?

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:37 PM

And how many times will this be quoted this morning……

…and that Americans are not targeted. “This does not apply to U.S. citizens, and it does not apply to people living in the United States,” Obama said.

…as though the lying little rat would actually tell the truth?

Solaratov on June 9, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Bah, Wyden is too busy flying between DC and Oregon to do talk shows in NYC or DC.

Oh, wait Gatsby Wyden actually lives in NYC with his wife and kids, not Oregon. The heck of it is, Wyden is generally better than Merkley.

oryguncon on June 9, 2013 at 12:41 PM

WTH has happened to VA?

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:37 PM

I was just down in the coal regions of VA in the last year and I have tried to help Appalachia for decades.

So much suffering and deprivation and you don’t hear about it.

Do I have to paint a picture?

—————————————————–

I was also in Oklahoma since the first storms.

I didn’t steal anything, though.

IlikedAUH2O on June 9, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Little white kids going hungry or being aborted aren’t photogenic for our media.

http://www.christianapp.org/

IlikedAUH2O on June 9, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Let’s gum up the works…
Everyone should be using one or more of the “bad” words and one of the “good words in their email and blog posts.
For example: try Senator (good word) with bombed (bad word).
Context is; the Senator really bombed in his speech to the gun rights group.
Thousands of these types of posts should make them really nervous….if their program is any good.
III

dirtengineer on June 9, 2013 at 1:14 PM

canopfor on June 9, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Macs don’t usually crash.

Both Firefox & now Safari repeatedly crashing…and this has been over the last month….kinda coincides with heavy coverage & commentary on IRS – AP/Surveillance coverage…

Or weird google stuff…cause google is being exceptionally wierd, but I assumed that’s the chaos in preparation for the impeding google reader shutdown and users shift…

It’s annoying as hell…and I’m not ready for my mac overhaul yet…planned to do that after I finish the Colo. job at the end of summer.

workingclass artist on June 9, 2013 at 12:01 PM

workingclass artist:

Ya,I too have had Google Search wierd things,
and I really haven’t been on much after my good
cimputer got toasted!

Well,I’ve pulled an all-nighter,nap time,
have “A” Great Day AC:)

canopfor on June 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

watching a little bit of the french open…what are the protesters protesting about….same sex marriage?

cmsinaz on June 9, 2013 at 10:43 AM

cnsinaz: Yup,good call:)
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2013 French Open

France same-sex marriage, adoption legislation

Update: French Open men’s final targeted by anti-gay marriage protest – @BBCNews
Story metadata:
Submitted 1 hour ago from http://www.bbc.co.uk by editor

canopfor on June 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Psycho ex-girlfriend.

John the Libertarian on June 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Better late than never:

“This Week” on ABC
• Dem nitwit
• R
• 2nd Generation Demwit
• Islamodouche race-victim

(Solid effort from ABD — nearly pure leftwing propaganda)

“Face the Nation” on CBS
• R
• Lib
• Lib
• R
• Mentally retarded affirmative action race victim
• Lib

(Honorable mention to CBS for the 2-1 lib ratio)

“State of the Union” on CNN
• 2nd Generation Demwit
• Mentally retarded affirmative action race victim
• RINO
• Lib kook
• R

(CNN never gets cheated)

“Fox News Sunday” on Fox
• Libertarian
• Conservative! Woohoo!
• D.C. fence sitter
• R
• R

“Newsmakers” on C-SPAN
• Liberal nitwit

“Political Capital” on Bloomberg TV
• Liberal fraud

“Al Punto” on Univision
• RINO
• Partisan lib

Jaibones on June 9, 2013 at 5:44 PM

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