Manning court martial press coverage kicks off as expected

posted at 8:31 am on June 8, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

After what seems like years, (wait… it actually has been years) the court martial of Bradley Manning officially kicked off this week. The bits and pieces of the proceedings dribbling out to the press thus far have largely been a rerun of things we’ve long since found out. The Army is laying out the details of the mountain of classified information Manning dumped onto the web, courtesy of his buddies at Wikileaks, and the defense is saying he’s just really misunderstood, you know? There was at least one new element, however, coming from a former supervisor.

Private First Class Bradley Manning, the U.S. soldier accused of passing classified files to the WikiLeaks website, boasted of his ability to crack passwords, one of his Army supervisors said at a court-martial on Wednesday.

‘He said he felt very fluent with computers. He said he spoke their language,’ said Showman, who had been one of Manning’s supervisors when he worked as an intelligence analyst at a U.S. Army base east of Baghdad in 2010.

‘He said there wasn’t anything he couldn’t do on a computer.’

Not exactly blockbuster stuff, but it does provide an inside view of the arrogance on display, not to mention what appears to be a desire to showboat a bit and impress people with his “elite” hacking skills and influence. Of course, if this was a civilian trial being held in the popular media, the verdict would already have long been in. Manning must be innocent because, you know… he’s a swell guy.

Matt Taibbi at Rolling Stone

This whole thing, this trial, it all comes down to one simple equation. If you can be punished for making public a crime, then the government doing the punishing is itself criminal.

Manning, by whatever means, stumbled into a massive archive of evidence of state-sponsored murder and torture, and for whatever reason, he released it. The debate we should be having is over whether as a people we approve of the acts he uncovered that were being done in our names.

Huffpo

As the long trial of Bradley Manning gets underway this week, I want to add my voice to the millions who stand with him and the thousands who protested his imprisonment over the weekend, and thank him for his brave act, and urge that all charges against him be dropped. Releasing information on war crimes, as the saying goes, is not a war crime. He should be released immediately.


The Nation

Nobel Peace Prize nominee PFC Bradley Manning has been in prison for more than three years. He is accused of sharing documents that expose US war crimes, government corruption, and corporate influence on US foreign policies. This is the charge, but to me and millions of others, whoever did expose these crimes is a hero and a patriot. Yet the government has chosen to persecute the alleged whistle-blower rather than pursue the criminals.

Then again, maybe the public isn’t even buying it at this point. Rasmussen is still polling on the subject and finds a majority of Americans still using “the T word” when talking about Manning.

52% View WikiLeaks Suspect Bradley Manning As A Traitor

Most voters believe the WikiLeaks release of classified documents is likely to have hurt U.S. national security and think the American soldier who helped make the information public on the Internet is a traitor. But they’re closely divided over whether that soldier deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison.

But clearly the marching orders have been issued and the troops are obediently lined up to publish the same set of heartwarming tales. Unlike civilian trials however, where such crafted sales pitches can poison a jury pool for hundreds of miles around, this is a court martial and the Army isn’t known for swallowing such bait. If this entire trial were about the so called Collateral Murder video, we might have another debate entirely. But the Army will be looking at the other 749,999 pieces of controlled information which he dumped, and they’re likely to cast a jaundiced eye on the politicization of this tale.

The trial resumes on Monday. We’ll keep you updated if anything unexpected crops up.


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Let the Gauntlet begin,er,commence!!

canopfor on June 8, 2013 at 8:36 AM

He’s not a swell guy. I could go on, but I’ll leave it at that.

BKeyser on June 8, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Matt Taibbi at Rolling Stone

He’s more Left than Stalin

faraway on June 8, 2013 at 8:43 AM

He is accused of sharing …

Typical spin.

Mimzey on June 8, 2013 at 8:45 AM

‘He said there wasn’t anything he couldn’t do on a computer.’
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Maybe a plea deal could be sought,in exchange to
hacking into the WH/Democrats computers and get to
the truth on Extortion 17,

Benghazi,IRS intimidation,and what the Progressives
have in store for the future!!
(Sarc).

canopfor on June 8, 2013 at 8:47 AM

This slob needs to be executed for treason.

bluegill on June 8, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Manning might have become a hero if America hadn’t yawned when the information was released. Perhaps we’ll wake up this time and make a hero of the PRISM leaker.

FoulBill on June 8, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Really, he committed treason, and treason is a capital offense. So what’s the holdup? I’d like some swift justice, please.

bluegill on June 8, 2013 at 8:49 AM

It used to be these freaks were drafted, then ran to Canada.

Nowdays, they willfully join, and commit crimes against their nation and comrades.

cozmo on June 8, 2013 at 8:50 AM

If they let him go for releasing classified documents then prosecute and jail someone else who also released classified documents, but against the wishes of this administration, what does it say about President Obama and the media.

Regardless if he did it to expose something he felt was wrong, there are methods and channels for correcting this. Releasing thousands of classified documents is not the way to do it and anyone who does should be prosecuted regardless of the motivation or ‘rightness’.

How can you have trust in the system if everyone violates it?

Dannic on June 8, 2013 at 8:51 AM

This whole thing, this trial, it all comes down to one simple equation. If you can be punished for making public a crime, then the government doing the punishing is itself criminal.
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Looks like a wee bit of logic me thinks,or,not!

canopfor on June 8, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Clearly a case of the means justifying the ends. Information wants to be free! If the ‘ends’ are a few foreigners helping out the US being assassinated, well, that’s the price you pay.

Fenris on June 8, 2013 at 8:52 AM

What will help Manning however is all the government scandals. Let us just say the U.S. government right now is not the must trusted group of people in this country. Don’t get me wrong, I think he is a traitor, but you have to put this case now into the “prism” (LOL) of the NSA stories, the IRS stories, AP/Fox intrusion stories, too many to name…let us just say Obama talked hope and change, but instead gave us ineptitude and scandal.

It is going to be harder and harder for people to separate these scandals and stories and after a while people will just say enough…They will say the government is the bad guy in all of it.

William Eaton on June 8, 2013 at 8:54 AM

MeanWhile,back at the Community Organizational Ranch:

Report of US mining Internet company data White House on ‘PRISM’ report:

‘Procedures outlined in this directive are consistent with the US Constitution’ – via @NBCNews

Submitted 1 hour ago by editor
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews

canopfor on June 8, 2013 at 8:59 AM

The Collateral Murder video was a lawful engagement against armed insurgents. Manning knew it and so did WikiLeaks, that’s why the released the video in an edited format.

BohicaTwentyTwo on June 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM

A nation where traitors don’t have ‘accidents’ if not summary executions has all the security of a screen door in Detroit.

MelonCollie on June 8, 2013 at 9:17 AM

If any American has been killed because of their cover being blown by this turd he should be convicted of murder, too.

Squiggy on June 8, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Look, she told her commanding officer she wanted to be called Breanna. Please show her the respect she deserves as a transgendered American.

JohnBrown on June 8, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Look, she told her commanding officer she wanted to be called Breanna. Please show her the respect she deserves as a transgendered American.

JohnBrown on June 8, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Really, you guys… where’s the love? ::: ducks :::

Jazz Shaw on June 8, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Why does it take so long to bring people to trial nowadays? Granted, this is a complex case, but look at the Ft. Hood killer, why did that take so long?

As for his crimes, it was wrong to do what he did, he knew it was wrong when he did it, and he’s no hero.

scalleywag on June 8, 2013 at 9:30 AM

I wonder if he’s been receiving his full paycheck the same as Major “Jihad” Hasan from the Ft. Hood terrorist activity?

iamsaved on June 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM

‘He said there wasn’t anything he couldn’t do on a computer.’

Future NSA employee with a sizable bonus pending……..

Rovin on June 8, 2013 at 9:39 AM

But he didn’t release information on proof of torture nor any war crimes…

There’s NO criminal activity found in the leaked docs… Because, if there were, we’d have had calls for prosecution based on the proof.

The guys a traitor.

Skywise on June 8, 2013 at 9:39 AM

I wonder if he’s been receiving his full paycheck the same as Major “Jihad” Hasan from the Ft. Hood terrorist activity?

iamsaved on June 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM

yes.
like all pretrial defendants the money is placed in escrow.
for the most part none is available.
if found innocent they have access to the money, if found guilty its returned.
its not like they actually get the money like a normal pay as many think.

dmacleo on June 8, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Nobel Peace Prize nominee

So was Hitler.

Del Dolemonte on June 8, 2013 at 9:51 AM

yes.
like all pretrial defendants the money is placed in escrow.
for the most part none is available.
if found innocent they have access to the money, if found guilty its returned.
its not like they actually get the money like a normal pay as many think.

dmacleo on June 8, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Hmmm. Is this also true of Lois Lerner? ;)

honsy on June 8, 2013 at 9:55 AM

It’s one thing to leak documents pertaining to actual malfeasance, and quite another to leak everything you can get your hands on, including justifiably classified information that names names. It’s one thing to shop your leaks to American press outlets or press outlets in allied countries. Quite another to shop the leak to a project arguably run and funded by a hostile intelligence agency (y’all know the Russians were funding Assange, right?).

It’s one thing to leak information to protect yourself, your agency, or the public’s trust, I.e to avoid being thrown under the bus, or genuine concern about the government’s role in some action. Manning leaked anything he could find because of his personal grudge. Hang him high.

Sekhmet on June 8, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Manning might have become a hero if America hadn’t yawned when the information was released. Perhaps we’ll wake up this time and make a hero of the PRISM leaker.

FoulBill on June 8, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Manning is an idiot. He wasn’t “leaking” anything. He was doing a document dump because he couldn’t take his boyfriend to the military prom. In order to be a leaker or a whistleblower, you have to be leaking something specific you think is wrong. Manning didn’t do that. He just took a mass of information and sent it to Assange. He didn’t care what was on it or what the consequences were.

The fact that people try to make him a hero makes them idiots as well.

BTW, when there is illegal conduct in the military- there are avenues that servicemembers must follow like the chain of command and the IG. Manning didn’t do any of these things.

melle1228 on June 8, 2013 at 9:59 AM

The 60-year anniversary of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg’s execution for treason comes up on the 19th of June.

The lefties will remind us. Particularly what they see as similar unfairness.

TimBuk3 on June 8, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Sounds like “conservatives” have no admiration for whistleblowers when it comes to the Military Industrial Complex.

What was that Glenn Beck was saying yesterday about whistleblowers?

dom89031 on June 8, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Oh no, it’s the Military Industrial Complex!

Wait…nope, it’s actually the Complex of Industrial Militarists.

Bishop on June 8, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Sounds like “conservatives” have no admiration for whistleblowers when it comes to the Military Industrial Complex.

What was that Glenn Beck was saying yesterday about whistleblowers?

dom89031 on June 8, 2013 at 10:20 AM

What Glenn Blech did or didn’t say is of even less concern than you, trolltard. Manning didn’t “whistleblow”; he did a data-dump because he was an angsty snot-nose who some moron put in charge of high-security documents.

The only whistle you should be concerned about is the one belonging to a cop.

MelonCollie on June 8, 2013 at 10:27 AM

But he didn’t release information on proof of torture nor any war crimes…

There’s NO criminal activity found in the leaked docs… Because, if there were, we’d have had calls for prosecution based on the proof.

The guys a traitor.

Skywise on June 8, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Yeah, this dishonest war crimes meme really pisses me off.

Blake on June 8, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Sounds like “conservatives” have no admiration for whistleblowers when it comes to the Military Industrial Complex.

What was that Glenn Beck was saying yesterday about whistleblowers?

dom89031 on June 8, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Benghazi survivors still unavailable for comment.

nobar on June 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM

I wish he would just do us all a favor and take care of this himself.

hawkdriver on June 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM

I really don’t think he will get that bad of a sentence, meaning, around 15 years. I determined this by reviewing other cases where servicemen handed over info to foreign governments. The military is quite sympathetic to the pressures of young soldiers serving abroad.

Blake on June 8, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Of course, all those other servicemen faded away after serving their sentences. This one will be grand marshal at some gay pride parade. I am more than a bit concerned that the left will falsely portray and treat him like a hero when he does get out.

Blake on June 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Can someone please tell me what “war crimes” Manning supposedly uncovered? Don’t you think that would be a big deal if he really had discovered some war crimes? Wouldn’t the press have covered those war crimes and reported on the follow up? Pathetic spin from the left.

Ellis on June 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Sounds like “conservatives” have no admiration for whistleblowers when it comes to the Military Industrial Complex.

What was that Glenn Beck was saying yesterday about whistleblowers?

dom89031 on June 8, 2013 at 10:20 AM

And when you “liberals” start demanding Obama’s impeachment for war crimes you can have room to talk.

Conservatives fully support “real” whistle blowers that leak “real” evidence of “real” crimes by the government. Manning was none of these and did none of these. He did the equivalent of grabbing a filing cabinet of top secret and sensitive information and dumped it because he was “pretty sure” something in there might have evidence of a crime. Didn’t know what that crime might be and wasn’t even directly/indirectly involved with any criminal activity.

In short, he dumped a load of Top Secret information in war time to stroke his own ego and get personal revenge against his bosses who didn’t understand his superior intellect.

Coz it’s really funny that the information we have on Benghazi, IRS, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq and practically any government knowledge since 2008 did NOT come from Wikileaks…

Curious… isn’t it?

Skywise on June 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Manning’s act was not that of a “hero.”

Period.

His motivation was anger…his being a lowly little PFC in a world where he believed he was smarter than everybody else…shoulda been a general, maybe a colonel, at least…in his narrow mind everyone in the Army was against him…cuz’, of course, he was gay or something.

His treasonous, illicit and illegal revelations still have impact in our ability to do Constitutional, legal, foreign affairs business across the globe. A lot of allies were embarrassed that we let a PFC tell the world all the secrets and stuff one just does not discuss in public but still acknowledges in private diplomacy.

War crimes???

Sure, PFC Manning….yours…yours alone.
Deal with it. Take it like a man.

Might be your only chance in life to be a man.

As for Manning’s “millions and millions” of supporters…try looking at the facts of the case first and only.

The rest? His gender issues, his inability to deal with day to day in uniform…meaningless…totally meaningless.

Find a better hero.

There’s a dead [murdered] US Ambassador who had gender issues…might want to take up his cause, not Manning’s.

Unfortunately, Ambassador Stevens and three others cannot comment nor even speak in their own defense.

Manning?

What a waste of oxygen.

coldwarrior on June 8, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Manning exposed as much data as he could get his hands on. The nature of the data was not only indiscriminate, it was unknown to Manning the extent of what he was publishing. He could not possibly have reviewed the massive quantity of documents he gave to WikiLeaks. This is a clear indication of a person trying to do as much damage as possible to the armed forces or to his country. This is the very definition of a traitor.

When convicted, Manning deserves to be executed in accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, without fanfare, and without publicity.

Immolate on June 8, 2013 at 11:00 AM

The left is defending him by claiming he did something he didn’t do, namely expose war crimes and corruption perpetrated by the US government. That is not what was exposed, what was exposed were the methods and tricks of international diplomacy, (praticed by every nation) and even the collateral damage video only, at worst, shows a wartime mistake.
It is clear that the only motive for Manning’s actions were to harm the US and our war effort, his only possible defense would be an unlawful order but that would be hard because of the wide range of documents released and the obvious effort involved in obtaining them.

Gwillie on June 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM

This is a clear indication of a person trying to do as much damage as possible to the armed forces or to his country. This is the very definition of a traitor.

Great first point but I disagree with the second.

Treason is defined by the Constitution and it requires “adherence” along with aid and comfort (we’ll dismiss the waging war part). That is, one must be deliberately working with an enemy AND giving them aid and comfort. I don’t think Manning was “adhering” to an enemy.

Very few people have been prosecuted for treason. That’s because it’s hard to prove. It also requires two witnesses who saw a person aiding the enemy. I doubt the government has two witnesses who saw Manning release that information.

The guy should be locked away for life.

SteveMG on June 8, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Manning perpetrated some horrible and reckless acts. But folks who think he committed treason need to look up how it’s defined.

By the definition in the constitution he didn’t engage in treason.

I’d still shoot him though.

SteveMG on June 8, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Lefties are going to face a real conundrum here: obviously traitorous Private Manning needs to be defended while the God-King who is prosecuting him will also need to be defended. Hmmm, what to do?

I bet they mildly attack Obama, so long as the scandalpalooza criticism isn’t to intense, but when the stakes get serious Manning is bus fodder. TFG, after all is said and done, must survive politically.

MTF on June 8, 2013 at 11:34 AM

What will help Manning however is all the government scandals.
….

William Eaton on June 8, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Yes, the connection is there but the government will switch sides and use this as the reason why leakers must be punished. Too bad for Manning, but he’s not a priority. Saving the government is the priority.

virgo on June 8, 2013 at 11:42 AM

How dare a peon try to expose the Kill’n / Terror machine that is the US GubRmint

roflmmfao

donabernathy on June 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM

(y’all know the Russians were funding Assange, right?)

Sekhmet on June 8, 2013 at 9:59 AM

I’m betting they weren’t the only ones.

GWB on June 8, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Send Manning to Afghanistan to face Afghan justice for the fate of the Afghans he exposed who were secretly working with US forces. Afghans who were trying to free their people from the savagery and brutality of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

farsighted on June 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM

He didn’t “stumble” onto a trove of classified information, he had access to it. He did not “hack” anything, he was given a password. And, along with his security clearance, he had an admonishment to protect the secrets that he had access to.

guinneach on June 8, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Nobel Peace Prize nominee

So was Hitler.

Del Dolemonte on June 8, 2013 at 9:51 AM

A ham sandwich can be nominated for a Nobel prize.

JetBoy on June 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM

The 60-year anniversary of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg’s execution for treason comes up on the 19th of June.

The lefties will remind us. Particularly what they see as similar unfairness.

TimBuk3 on June 8, 2013 at 10:18 AM

If you ever run into any of those Lefties, tell them the Rosenbergs were guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Best recent article I’ve encountered on this was on the Power Line blog just last month.

Commies and their friends.

Del Dolemonte on June 8, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Sounds like “conservatives” have no admiration for whistleblowers when it comes to the Military Industrial Complex.

dom89031 on June 8, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Ah, another Hot Gas Sleeper Cell activation. The giveaway? Your use of the quaint 9/10 Leftist dog whistle “Military Industrial Complex”, without which you wouldn’t have a computer to share your low Democrat IQ with us adults here on Hot Gas.

Sorry, but the dom89030 model was much funnier. You’ve obviously been watered down with the cheap stuff.

F-

Del Dolemonte on June 8, 2013 at 12:22 PM

This whole thing, this trial, it all comes down to one simple equation. If you can be punished for making public a crime, then the government doing the punishing is itself criminal.

What those pilots did was anything but a crime. The supposed Reuters “journalists” were embedded in a group of RPG toting insurgents who were walking toward a crossroads where US troops were crossing in a convoy of Humvees. Had they not been shot up then there would have been a lot of dead Americans.
War is unpleasant and unpleasant things are done in it. That that fact comes as a surprise to people over the age of 4 is pretty sad.

V7_Sport on June 8, 2013 at 12:59 PM

A ham sandwich can be nominated for a Nobel prize.- JetBoy on June 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Yasser Arafat and Barack Obama both have received the Nobel Peace Prize. It is an utter worthless political award from a country that remained neutral in both WWi and WWII.

SC.Charlie on June 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Ahh, Matt Taibbi. The man who almost broke down and cried on national radio when he though Barack was blowing it in 2008. Why would anyone think he was unbelievably biased?

Dave_d on June 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM

It is an utter worthless political award from a country that remained neutral in both WWi and WWII.

And it only managed to remain neutral in WWII by doing about 80-90% of what Nazi Germany wanted it to do.

When you can get almost everything you need from a country without invading it, why expend the resources required to invade it, occupy it, and govern it when it poses no threat?

farsighted on June 8, 2013 at 1:08 PM

The text of the 6th Amendment to the Constitution. The right to a speedy trial:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

The Manning case and the Hasan case have both taken three long years to come to fruition ……… far too long. Both men should be get maximum sentences.

SC.Charlie on June 8, 2013 at 1:10 PM

A ham sandwich can be nominated for a Nobel prize.

JetBoy on June 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Roast beef. Ham might offend some people and I don’t think that they have Virginia Honey Baked Ham stores with sandwiches the world over. A shame.

Ahh, Matt Taibbi. The man who almost broke down and cried on national radio when he though Barack was blowing it in 2008. Why would anyone think he was unbelievably biased?

Dave_d on June 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Very astute comment. The person who should break down and cry about the ’08 election is the PFC perp we have here. He is much less of a folk hero with our Dem POTUS that he would be with even a “Mavericky” Republican. The NYT and the rest would actually be inventing new justifications for leaking and maybe a few facts if it helped their friends.

IlikedAUH2O on June 8, 2013 at 1:21 PM

“the Government is criminal” Welcome aboard Matt.

Hummer53 on June 8, 2013 at 1:57 PM

The Media buried what Manning released because it embarrassed Obama/Hillary, Treason even if data worthless

DANEgerus on June 8, 2013 at 1:59 PM

A ham sandwich can be nominated for a Nobel prize.

JetBoy on June 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Meat?! Responsible for global warming and deaths of billions? In the words of the great Grand Moff Tarkin “I think you overestimate its chances!”

Skywise on June 8, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Firing squad asap.

mixplix on June 8, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Ah, another Hot Gas Sleeper Cell activation. The giveaway? Your use of the quaint 9/10 Leftist dog whistle “Military Industrial Complex”, without which you wouldn’t have a computer to share your low Democrat IQ with us adults here on Hot Gas.

Sorry, but the dom89030 model was much funnier. You’ve obviously been watered down with the cheap stuff.

F-

Del Dolemonte on June 8, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Nope, the Military Industrial complex is a term that was coined in 1961 by Republican president Dwight Eisenhower.

antifederalist on June 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 8, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Nope, the Military Industrial complex is a term that was coined in 1961 by Republican president Dwight Eisenhower.

antifederalist on June 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM

I said it was a Leftist Dog Whistle. I didn’t say a thing about who coined the term. You assumed that. And remember, when Eisenhower said that, he was warning against the perils of same, not endorsing same.

Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.

And you’re ignoring the previous description of same from back in 1942, when German political scientist Franz Leopold Neumann wrote his epic book about Nazi Socialism.

But please feel free to give us credible cites of all the times the Right have used that term as a dog whistle. I know I can give you countless examples of the Left doing so without even cracking a sweat.

(Starts Sundial #3,091)

Del Dolemonte on June 8, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Manning, by whatever means, stumbled into a massive archive of evidence of state-sponsored murder and torture, and for whatever reason, he released it.

I love this one. Yep. Manning was just surfing eBay for My Little Pony dolls and just “stumbled” into a sh&tload of confidential information.

And for whatever reason, you know, because boys will be boys or because someone double dog dared him he gave it all to wikileaks.

Tabbibi and RS are total scumb&gs. That’s probably why you can get a subscription for a year of RS for less than a good cup of coffee.

kim roy on June 8, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Manning’s very appearance should have made the authorities wary of him.

Who would play Manning in a film?

Sherman1864 on June 8, 2013 at 10:58 PM

And it only managed to remain neutral in WWII by doing about 80-90% of what Nazi Germany wanted it to do.

When you can get almost everything you need from a country without invading it, why expend the resources required to invade it, occupy it, and govern it when it poses no threat?

farsighted on June 8, 2013 at 1:08 PM

That’s like accusing a store clerk of theft for taking money out of the register when a burglar puts a gun to his head.

Some historical perspective for the ignorant:

You are the leader of a small nation who has just watched half a continent fall to an industrial power with no help in sight from anyone even remotely capable of stopping them. (England only avoided the same fate thanks to the Channel)

The leader of the juggernaught gives you two choices – 1. Do most of what they’d like and remain neutral. 2. Get your arse kicked by divisions of bombers, tanks, and infantry which you have absolutely no hope of stopping, at which point the ones who survive will do EVERYTHING they say.

America was never under any threat of land invasion during WW2, shortsighted, much less invasion and occupation. Think before you speak next time.

MelonCollie on June 9, 2013 at 12:19 PM

In short, he dumped a load of Top Secret information in war time to stroke his own ego and get personal revenge against his bosses who didn’t understand his superior intellect wouldn’t permit him to have his boyfriend at military functions.

Skywise on June 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM

There- a little closer to the truth.

BillH on June 9, 2013 at 2:43 PM