Video: Trey Gowdy gets emotional over IRS binging on conferences while others were being furloughed

posted at 8:01 pm on June 6, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Greg Hengler, it’s not about the money. It’s about the arrogance of power involved in these people flushing millions in taxpayer dollars on fun in the sun in Anaheim and not even caring enough to keep receipts for it while the rest of the country, including other government workers, was sweating out a terrible economy. Gowdy reaches the same conclusion I did in yesterday’s post on this — having reached this level of decadence on top of political targeting of conservative groups, the agency’s beyond minor repair. It’s time to think bigger.

One interesting footnote to this: Republicans weren’t the only ones to launch into righteous rants about the IRS’s profligacy at today’s hearing. Democrat Elijah Cummings uncorked one of his own, which is the best evidence yet that the dopey “overreach” talking point that Plouffe et al. were trying to jumpstart in order to back the GOP off simply won’t work. Slate’s John Dickerson wrote a whole post about that today, in fact — that in this particular case, with an agency as widely loathed as the IRS in the crosshairs and with the public convinced along bipartisan lines that the agency was unfair to conservatives, it’s almost impossible to “overreach.” And if it was impossible yesterday, when the scandal was “only” about biased scrutiny of nonprofits, it’s really impossible today with the agency’s wasteful spending on conferences/vacation getaways now center stage. Overreach happens when the underlying corruption isn’t commensurate with your outrage over it. Not much risk of that here.


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Second look at the Fair Tax?

John the Libertarian on June 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Is there some reason why Gowdy isn’t primary-ing Graham?

LtBarnwell02 on June 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

I’ve managed a number of private industry confereences from sales meetings to car dealer introductions. Typically conferences are for dealers and sales people. They are designed to fire up salespeople and dealers, launch new peroducts and educate participants about selling against the competition. Unlike Toyota or Ford, the IRS has no products to sell and no competition in stealing our money.

bw222 on June 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Is there some reason why Gowdy isn’t primary-ing Graham?

LtBarnwell02 on June 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

I was wondering the same thing.

bw222 on June 6, 2013 at 8:11 PM

This guy is good…

d1carter on June 6, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Second look at the Fair Tax?

John the Libertarian on June 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

I hear you..I would prefer second look at flat tax..:)

Dire Straits on June 6, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Should we be thinking about starting over with our national media..?

d1carter on June 6, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Rep. McDermott from WA was unavailable to be an a**hole during this hearing.

BuckeyeSam on June 6, 2013 at 8:15 PM

I was wondering the same thing.

bw222 on June 6, 2013 at 8:11 PM

What he said. Please someone primary that tool!

GADinSB on June 6, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Who’d name someone Trey?

South Park movie’s “Kyle’s Mom’s a Bitch Song”:

http://youtu.be/b2Ok2c9-zm8

derit on June 6, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Trey Gowdy is extremely impressive.

vityas on June 6, 2013 at 8:19 PM

I wish this guy was in a leadership position. Sure, he just got elected, but still…

SMACKRUNNER on June 6, 2013 at 8:19 PM

…I see the IRS learned a lesson… from the GSA administration!

KOOLAID2 on June 6, 2013 at 8:19 PM

The IRS will never be dismantled because Democrats believe any government spending is a positive good. Nothing can be cut from the Federal budget because any spending, no matter how wasteful, is better than no spending (with the possible expecting of military spending). It all comes from their half baked “understanding” of Kenyes.

Fred 2 on June 6, 2013 at 8:20 PM

He is definitely one of the good guys. This was very moving and impressive.

gophergirl on June 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Gowdy, Cruz, Paul—3 Congress critters to protect the constitutional interests of 300 million+ of us….sad days indeed.

hillsoftx on June 6, 2013 at 8:23 PM

the IRS has no products to sell and no competition in stealing our money.

bw222 on June 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

…neither do any of the other departments in this administration…but they ALL are trying to outspend each other in ‘conferences’ and ‘retreats’!

KOOLAID2 on June 6, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Is there some reason why Gowdy isn’t primary-ing Graham?

LtBarnwell02 on June 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Anyone from South Carolina care to weigh in on that?

Raquel Pinkbullet on June 6, 2013 at 8:24 PM

“I think replacement might.” — Trey Gowdy

I think jail sentences might.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 6, 2013 at 8:25 PM

and who do you think has set the example of extravagance? These agencies all see the Celebrity in Chief and his self-absorbed spouse and think there is no harm in following suit…

hillsoftx on June 6, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Is there some reason why Gowdy isn’t primary-ing Graham?

LtBarnwell02 on June 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Still time but sissy knows there might be problems and has a big war chest to keep his position as McCain’s mini-me-blow-me.

arnold ziffel on June 6, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Second look at the Fair Tax?

John the Libertarian on June 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

No. You’d have to repeal the 16th amendment, first, but even if that were done Benedict Roberts has already made clear that the feral government can tax anyone for anything (or for nothing) at their whim. If you add a national sales tax to all this we’ll just get even more government and higher property taxes from the states as they seek to replace the income they’ll lose as the feral government horns in on their sales tax territory.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 6, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Is there some reason why Gowdy isn’t primary-ing Graham?

LtBarnwell02 on June 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

My thoughts exactly. He’s also the one that challenged the idea that Lois Lerner could say she was innocent and then plead the Fifth. Good to see somebody with sense from the Palmetto State.

And, while I realize it is the man’s name, Rep. Gowdy addressing his remarks to Mr. Fink is video gold.

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 8:28 PM

The Flat tax should be indexed to the cost of tire inflation.

SparkPlug on June 6, 2013 at 8:30 PM

This guy is one hair makeover away from the senate.

TexasDan on June 6, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Is there some reason why Gowdy isn’t primary-ing Graham?

LtBarnwell02 on June 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

That would be David, taking on Goliath….

lovingmyUSA on June 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM

After listening to the likes of Gowdy and Cruz, I’m going to allow myself just the tiniest bit of hope for the Republic … for a moment.

Lost in Jersey on June 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM

If they have this much time on their hands, I’d say cut the IRS budget 10% across the board, fire all managers involved with these conferences, and do away with any and all bonuses for IRS employees. Here’s a radical idea! Hire private citizens to look for waste and fraud in all Gov agencies. They would only be paid a percentage of what they were able to save the taxpayer. It would be a win-win!

rich8450 on June 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Who’d name someone Trey?

derit on June 6, 2013 at 8:17 PM

It’s a nickname. He’s the third generation with the same name:

Harold Watson Gowdy III

I have friends who’ve used the same nickname for their son who was another third generation.

INC on June 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Stop this country I want to get off.

Did I set off any DHS/IRS alarms there? Will I be audited, phone and internet records seized for that comment?

My friends and I used to joke around about stuff like that. That kind of comment used to be laughable.

Not anymore.

WitchDoctor on June 6, 2013 at 8:34 PM

This is what missing with conservative Republicans these days. I rarely hear Republicans making moral cases. Romney and McCain basic arguments we are spending too much we need to cut. Alright…..but they never made the moral case why government needs to limited and reckless spending is IMMORAL.

terryannonline on June 6, 2013 at 8:37 PM

I love that guy.

Curtiss on June 6, 2013 at 8:37 PM

That would be David, taking on Goliath….

lovingmyUSA on June 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Knowing how that turned out I’d be pretty happy about the comparison to Gowdy vs. Graham.

LtBarnwell02 on June 6, 2013 at 8:38 PM

If it was just about any other Republican than Trey Gowdy, I would have suspected that the tears were for self-pity. Sobbing over the fact that the fat-cat lifestyle in Washington could be coming to an end.

egmont on June 6, 2013 at 8:38 PM

The cultural, systemic problem he mentions goes well beyond just the IRS. It’s a problem in every facet of government. We can go through Congress’ receipts and see the same kind of cultural and systemic problems.

ButterflyDragon on June 6, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Trey Gowdy….one of the Remnant.

Alinsky on June 6, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Trey Gowdy Rocks!

workingclass artist on June 6, 2013 at 8:41 PM

The cultural, systemic problem he mentions goes well beyond just the IRS. It’s a problem in every facet of government. We can go through Congress’ receipts and see the same kind of cultural and systemic problems.

ButterflyDragon on June 6, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Not just our government though. How many people are buying stuff they really can’t afford? It is no surprise that people are voting for big spenders when the American people are big spenders themselves.

terryannonline on June 6, 2013 at 8:45 PM

When the “too big to fails” were doing the kind of crap (while they were going bankrupt) that the IRS is accused of doing, the left was all in a lather about 1%ers taking more than their fair share. Where the h*ll (she asks rhetorically) is Occupy Wall Street and why aren’t they “Occupying” the IRS?

LL

Lady Logician on June 6, 2013 at 8:45 PM

From a structural standpoint, a changeover to a vastly simplified system with very few exemptions and deductions and lower rates could be done within five years, allowing time for businesses and individuals to adjust to the new system.

But aligned against any real reform is an entire industry of businesses devoted to managing the most complex tax code in the world, from lobbying for loopholes to concocting massively complicated by facially legal tax strategies and corporate structures. These folks have money, powerful friends and powerful clients, many of whom are also deeply invested in the status quo. They make major campaign contributions.

The time is rapidly approaching for concrete steps to radically simplify the tax code, but it isn’t going to be easy.

novaculus on June 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM

It’s a nickname. He’s the third generation with the same name:

Harold Watson Gowdy III

I have friends who’ve used the same nickname for their son who was another third generation.

INC on June 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Okay, I don’t know where “Trey” comes from but “Harold Watson Gowdy III” is poison for politics. Especially as a Republican. You need to be able to make connections with the electorate and Harold Watson Gowdy III does not do that.

You might as well be called Winston Howell III if you don’t get a nickname.

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM

That would be David, taking on Goliath….

lovingmyUSA on June 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM

David did take on Goliath. Just sayin’

And if I were living in South Carolina, I’d be much more engaged with Gowdy’s comments about IRS abuses than Graham saying he was okay with the NSA Stasi.

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Which is why guys who are the “the 3rd” sometimes go by the nickname “Trey”.

Hal Chapman Wingo III or (Trey Wingo) of ESPN is another example.

tetriskid on June 6, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Second look at the Fair Tax?

John the Libertarian on June 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

No. You’d have to repeal the 16th amendment, first, but even if that were done Benedict Roberts has already made clear that the feral government can tax anyone for anything (or for nothing) at their whim. If you add a national sales tax to all this we’ll just get even more government and higher property taxes from the states as they seek to replace the income they’ll lose as the feral government horns in on their sales tax territory.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 6, 2013 at 8:28 PM

It might be possible. Pass the Fair Tax, but make it’s implementation dependent on repeal of the 16th Amendment. I think this would put a lot of pressure on the state legislatures to go with quick passage of repeal. I wouldn’t want to see the Fair Tax implemented until the Income Tax is truly dead.

If we just reform the tax code to a flat(er) tax, it will just become corrupted again over time. The temptation is too great for mortal politicians. The end of the Income Tax would also end one of the left’s great redistributive tools.

trigon on June 6, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Gowdy, Cruz, Paul—3 Congress critters to protect the constitutional interests of 300 million+ of us….sad days indeed.

hillsoftx on June 6, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Yep.

GrannyDee on June 6, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Trey Gowdy is impressing me..:)

Dire Straits on June 6, 2013 at 9:05 PM

This is what missing with conservative Republicans these days. I rarely hear Republicans making moral cases. Romney and McCain basic arguments we are spending too much we need to cut. Alright…..but they never made the moral case why government needs to limited and reckless spending is IMMORAL.

terryannonline on June 6, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Are you familiar with David Horowitz and his http://go4theheart.org/ site?

He hammers out that the moral outrage is missing over the moral atrocities that the Dems commit.

From his “Go For the Heart: How Republicans Can Win” pamphlet.

The only way to confront the emotional campaign that Democrats wage in every election is through an equally emotional campaign that puts the aggressors on the defensive; that attacks them in the same moral language, identifying them as the bad guys, the oppressors of women, children, minorities and the middle class, that takes away from them the moral high ground which they now occupy. You can’t confront an emotionally based moral argument with an intellectual analysis. Yet this is basically and almost exclusively what Republicans do.

The Dems haul out their For the Children and War on Women, when in reality they use them as policy shields and propaganda tools. This needs to be stood on its head and the mask needs to be ripped off.

To do that you have to have the morals yourself to be genuinely outrage.

INC on June 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I actually saw Trey Gowdy on a Forensic Files (or similar) before he ever ran for office. He was awesome then too.

Connie on June 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Lady Logician on June 6, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Great question..:)

Dire Straits on June 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM

As a South Carolinian who came here from New England via Florida then North Carolina this guy gets my vote hands down.
What does he have over Lindsey? We could start with spine then move on to an ability to make his point clearly and without being a “mealy-mouth.”
Trey……..where do I send the check?

Art on June 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Wiki says his dad goes by Hal.

Trey may be used only in the South. I don’t know. But since he’s the III, Trey is a take on the number three.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trey

INC on June 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM

My friends called their son Trey from birth. I suspect that’s what happened with Gowdy.

INC on June 6, 2013 at 9:12 PM

This profligacy by government employees/agencies is not new. It is part of their DNA and congress is partly at fault for the way they come up with budgets.
When I was about 20 (nearly 40 years ago,circa 1975) my best friend’s mother was a supervisor in our area SS office. She had a house on the golf course at the country club. Well, one day I was visiting and the friend started telling me about this big party at the CC that her mom was planning for her employees. She said mom had to spend a bunch of money before the end of the fiscal year because if they didn’t spend their entire budget they wouldn’t get as much money the next year.
Must be tough (///)… being under the gun to go out and spend LOTS of money by a date certain so you will get as much, maybe more, next year (with no thought whatsoever that you are spending money that came out of the pockets of average citizens when you do).
Now, imagine that every regional and area office in the entire county is doing this and you begin to see the enormity of the problem.

I am embarrassed now that I knew people like that, once upon a time. It did not occur to me, at that age, that they were spending my money. It was just gov. money, you know?

jffree1 on June 6, 2013 at 9:12 PM

the IRS has no products to sell and no competition in stealing our money.

bw222 on June 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

…neither do any of the other departments in this administration…but they ALL are trying to outspend each other in ‘conferences’ and ‘retreats’!

KOOLAID2 on June 6, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Ah, but you forget about team building :)… you cannot just target cons and tea partiers randomly, it has to be a collective, systematic, and sustained process, and this requires team cohesivemess on the IRS part, which in turn can only be achieved by deploying the IRS agents at peaceful and expensive retreats (by the ocean if possible) and away from the prying eyes where they can build their teams adequately…

jimver on June 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Republicans have not overplayed their hand. Unlike the late 1990s, they have the country with them in their pursuit of answers. Americans want to get to the bottom of the IRS mess, the issue that has prompted some of Issa’s extravagancies. New revelations, like this week’s disclosures about IRS profligacy, are offering fresh reasons for outrage, and the disciplining of two IRS officials for receiving gifts against ethics rules ratifies the investigations. New polls show that the country thinks the president is less trustworthy, so the chances the public will rush to his defense against the meanies going after him is shrinking.

The long-term danger for Chairman Issa may not be overreach but ineffectiveness. When you overhype evidence, people will notice if you don’t have the goods, and ultimately you lose credibility. But we are a long way from that. Right now, the public wants Republicans to make their case.

J_Crater on June 6, 2013 at 9:34 PM

REPACE IT !!!!!!

scalleywag on June 6, 2013 at 9:38 PM

I will donate money to Trey Gowdey’s seat the day he announces a run for the SC senate seat held by Grahamnesty should he choose to do so. He would make a good addition to Cruz/Lee/Paul.

ritewhit on June 6, 2013 at 10:18 PM

That’s gonna leave a mark.

Hahahaha. Just kidding! As if.

Water, meet duck’s back.

Splashman on June 6, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Yeah, I get it, and I love Trey. But good grief, will these guys please stop crying in public?

Jaibones on June 6, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Rep. McDermott from WA was unavailable to be an a**hole during this hearing.

BuckeyeSam on June 6, 2013 at 8:15 PM

He was reading the Trevor Loudon book, “The Enemies Within: Communists, Socialists and Progressives in the U.S. Congress”.

One question posed by the book:

“Who are the two prominent Washington State Communist Party leaders pictured here with Rep. McDermott?”

IlikedAUH2O on June 7, 2013 at 12:00 AM

there is nothing wrong with guys showing emotion in public, get over it.

anyway yes he needs to primary lindsey graham. i was happy to see that gowdy is from SC!! so maybe it’s possible…

Sachiko on June 7, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Who’d name someone Trey?

derit on June 6, 2013 at 8:17 PM

It’s a nickname. He’s the third generation with the same name:

Harold Watson Gowdy III

I have friends who’ve used the same nickname for their son who was another third generation.

INC on June 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM

kinda like ‘TRIP’ short for triple
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FLAT TAX

RonK on June 7, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Okay, I don’t know where “Trey” comes from but “Harold Watson Gowdy III” is poison for politics.

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Trey is a three in cards, dice, or dominoes, similar to the more familiar ace for one and deuce for two. It comes from Old French treis, meaning three.

LoganSix on June 7, 2013 at 7:22 AM

Somebody said David and Goliath. Think Cruz vs Dewhurst. Started with 7% name recognition and no money against the 10 year Lt Governor with millions PLUS the backing of the old guard that had as its chairman John Cornyn running the senate election committee.

Cruz swamped him with grass roots support. And around here he is considered the senior senator because he got Cornyn to turn back to the right.

DanMan on June 7, 2013 at 7:36 AM

Flat Tax.

ooonaughtykitty on June 7, 2013 at 8:30 AM

The posters are exactly right about the use of “Trey” in the South. Somebody suggested that having a name with a “III” appended to it would be political poison. Well, in the South people name their boys after their daddys with amazing frequency, so there are lots of Jrs and IIIs and IVs running around. They aren’t necessarily aristocrats.

I’m very fond of Gowdy. He had a great reputation as a prosecutor and he is clearly extremely bright. I would love to see him take on Graham, whom I just do not trust.

Incidentally, “juniors” are often nicknamed “Chip” or “Chipper” here in the South, as in “chip off the old block.” Think baseball player Chipper Jones. As any Mets fan will tell you, his given name was Larry.

35tww on June 7, 2013 at 9:52 AM

Great speech Trey!! I got emotional with you! God Bless you for your intelligence and for your compassion! I could just feel the pain and embarassment this poor woman must have felt when asking for a loan to buy her child a birthday present!! I would have opened my wallet and given her the money and I think you may have done just that!

Please do not give up on this injustice! It is my hope that this Committee will take steps to bring any lawbreakers to justice in these matters! Let’s clean house!!

Jersey Dan on June 7, 2013 at 3:42 PM

When the “too big to fails” were doing the kind of crap (while they were going bankrupt) that the IRS is accused of doing, the left was all in a lather about 1%ers taking more than their fair share. Where the h*ll (she asks rhetorically) is Occupy Wall Street and why aren’t they “Occupying” the IRS?

LL

Occupy Wall Street is nothing but CHICKEN$H!T when it comes to the IRS. Either that or they support Obama’s enemies list so they keep their mouth shut. Typical asshats

hamradio on June 7, 2013 at 3:54 PM