“The administration has now lost all credibility” on transparency and accountability, says … the New York Times

posted at 5:21 pm on June 6, 2013 by Allahpundit

If you’ve lost the New York Times editorial board, you’ve lost … a group that’s as far left as The Nation’s masthead, if we’re being honest. Not a huge deal. And he really hasn’t lost them. In nearly all other policy disputes, he’ll represent the liberal side of the argument. They’ll rally eventually.

But if you dislike what the NSA is doing, you’ll welcome this as a rare bit of bad press from a source the White House cares about that might make them think twice about the breadth of their data-mining:

Within hours of the disclosure that the federal authorities routinely collect data on phone calls Americans make, regardless of whether they have any bearing on a counterterrorism investigation, the Obama administration issued the same platitude it has offered every time President Obama has been caught overreaching in the use of his powers: Terrorists are a real menace and you should just trust us to deal with them because we have internal mechanisms (that we are not going to tell you about) to make sure we do not violate your rights.

Those reassurances have never been persuasive — whether on secret warrants to scoop up a news agency’s phone records or secret orders to kill an American suspected of terrorism — especially coming from a president who once promised transparency and accountability. The administration has now lost all credibility. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the 9/11 attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers…

Mr. Obama clearly had no intention of revealing this eavesdropping, just as he would not have acknowledged the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen, had it not been reported in the press. Even then, it took him more than a year and a half to acknowledge the killing, and he is still keeping secret the protocol by which he makes such decisions.

We are not questioning the legality under the Patriot Act of the court order disclosed by The Guardian. But we strongly object to using that power in this manner. It is the very sort of thing against which Mr. Obama once railed, when he said in 2007 that the Bush administration’s surveillance policy “puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide.”

After an editorial this blistering from a paper this prominent, I think O no longer has any choice about the future of the policy. He’ll simply have to give a speech defending it while pretending to be broken up about the whole thing. It’s the only way to bring peace to anguished, betrayed liberal intellectuals like the Times’s board and Jane Mayer. Maybe he’ll even toss in a Reinhold Niebuhr quote or two. For old times’ sake.

Just to grind a little salt in the wound, via the Examiner, here’s Lindsey Graham telling Eric Holder this morning to keep up the good work. Exit question via John Ekdahl: Doesn’t the “F” in “FISA” stand for … “Foreign”? If that’s so, why does O’s phone-records dragnet include many millions of purely domestic calls?


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A random act of journalism? Hope they have all their tax info in order.

tom daschle concerned on June 6, 2013 at 5:23 PM

“Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it.”

ooooooh. So it’s Bush’s fault.

29Victor on June 6, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Wow, the IRS auditors are going to be working overtime now.

Ward Cleaver on June 6, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Uh oh. I smell “natural causes” for some NYT editors.

The Rogue Tomato on June 6, 2013 at 5:24 PM

The editorial writer and 99.999% of the NYT staff will still vote for Obummer when he runs for his third term.

KS Rex on June 6, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Atleast Hussein +Holder haven’t vaporized us with armed drones………….yet !

burrata on June 6, 2013 at 5:26 PM

If they’re saying this about Obama and his credibility, they must REALLY have some damaging stuff on him, or know another shoe will drop.

Of course we’ll never hear about it from them. They’ll sit on it.

The fact they are saying this now is very telling.

portlandon on June 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

“NY Times are full of racist Islamaphobes.” – Capitalist Hog

sentinelrules on June 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

So a newspaper that lost all credibility years ago is saying their favorite bum boy has lost all credibility? Is that right? Well it’s like my mama always said “it takes one to know one”

neyney on June 6, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Can we PLEASE vote for Rand Paul in 2016 unless he does something absolutely atrocious over the next couple of years? Seriously these politicians like Lindsey Graham are making me sick.

thphilli on June 6, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Pic of the Day: The Front Page of The Huffington Post

Resist We Much on June 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Seriously? hahahaha nice.

Insult to Dubya, but can’t really argue with “meet the new boss, same as the old boss”.

kim roy on June 6, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Via Ace

Just Three Months Ago, Director National Intelligence James Clapper Told Congress That the NSA Does Not Collect Data on Millions of Americans

tom daschle concerned on June 6, 2013 at 5:30 PM

“Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act”

I don’t know, maybe the terrorists are here on holiday?

Maybe they have recruitment ads for martyrs after a successful bombing with the suicide bomber’s last words, after a thumbs up and a wink… “I’m going to Disney World!”

IndieDogg on June 6, 2013 at 5:30 PM

JUST NOW?

rjoco1 on June 6, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Just now realizing this?

vcferlita on June 6, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Now where did I put those tin cans and string? I knew they’d be handy someday.

IdahoAl on June 6, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Doesn’t the “F” in “FISA” stand for … “Foreign”? If that’s so, why does O’s phone-records dragnet include many millions of purely domestic calls?

How would Obama know ?
He is still trying to learn the names of all 57 states !
Believe me, it’s not easy , specially when you are an Asian fluent in Austrian . Even learning what to do with your hands when the US National Anthem is played takes months, imagine how difficult it is for a Constitutional Law professor with an IQ of 420 to figure out what a frikin letter stands for in some random alphabet soup .

burrata on June 6, 2013 at 5:32 PM

He has never been credible or transparent in his life…he is a fraud the NYT hoisted onto this country and now they want to have a moment of hand-washing. May the Koch Bros seek to buy you out.

hillsoftx on June 6, 2013 at 5:32 PM

The NY Times has it’s panties in a bunch because the Patriot Act was passed by “members of Congress who mostly had not even read it?”

Hmmmm. . ring any bells?

P Opus on June 6, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Lost? Lost?

What you mean ‘lost,’ kemosabe?

chimney sweep on June 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM

It’s felt for awhile like our own government is at war with us and Obama did say basically the WE are the enemy….I guess he really really meant it based on what has been coming to light these past few weeks.

Caseoftheblues on June 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Everyone sit down – this is shocking news –and the start of a talking point trend: The Left is blaming this on Boooosh!

Welcome to the Bush-Obama White House: They’re Spying on Us
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/welcome-to-the-bush-obama-white-house-they-re-spying-on-us-20130606

‘Bush’s 4th term’
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/nsa-phone-records-obama-george-bush-92352.html?hp=t1_3

Who would thought they would do that?

Galt2009 on June 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Atleast Hussein +Holder haven’t vaporized us with armed drones………….yet !

burrata on June 6, 2013 at 5:26 PM

And if they do, at least they will be remorseful :)

jimver on June 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Hype n Change

SparkPlug on June 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Rope and Chains

SparkPlug on June 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Coke n Veins

SparkPlug on June 6, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Doesn’t the “F” in “FISA” stand for … “Foreign”? If that’s so, why does O’s phone-records dragnet include many millions of purely domestic calls?

I’m more interested in knowing who gets to see the data and what they are doing with it.

Of course, it did a hell of a job thwarting the Boston Marathon bombing where the “lone wolves” who were displaying so many red flags you would have thought that you were outside the Kremlin on May 1st in the old Soviet Union.

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Soap and Drains

SparkPlug on June 6, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Death Panels

SparkPlug on June 6, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Benghazi

SparkPlug on June 6, 2013 at 5:41 PM

The NYT has no credibility, as far as I’m concerned. This is simply faux outrage designed to give a temporary appearance of impartiality. All will be forgiven by the end of the week.

Erich66 on June 6, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Reality is a beeyotch.

Hope and Change becomes, uh, yeah, I guess I’m not qualified. I don’t have any executive experience. I may look good and sound good in the short term, which is why I got elected and reelected, but that’s no basis for governing. Telepromptering is easy. Governing is hard.

Paul-Cincy on June 6, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Of course, there a few things the New York Slimes forgot to mention:

1. Anybody who thinks the phone records came from just Verizon is an IDIOT.
2. Anybody who thinks that NSA is NOT also accessing ALL e-mail messages is an IDIOT.
3. Anybody who thinks that NSA is NOT also scanning ALL twitter messages is an IDIOT.
4. Anybody who thinks that DOJ/DHS and NSA are NOT also monitoring ALL non-socialist-extremist blogs is an IDIOT. (We HOT AIR fans are, of course, DEAD MEAT – so get ready for your IRS audit.)
5. Anybody who thinks that NSA is NOT also intercepting ALL text messaging is an IDIOT.
6. Anybody who thinks that DOJ/DHS and NSA are NOT also monitoring ALL social media (facebook, etc) sites is an IDIOT.

NB: the word “idiot” can be replaced by the phrase “OBOZO-supporting, d-cRAT socialist”.

TeaPartyNation on June 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM

In a desperate time the NYT has a chance to save it’s self if it will finally print a truth and break away from the WH otherwise is will go under like all the rest and become a part of history of the printed media.

mixplix on June 6, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Would someone please primary that bloviating jackass Lindsey Graham?

Come on. There have GOT to be better Republicans in South Carolina than that guy,

BKennedy on June 6, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Coke n Veins

SparkPlug on June 6, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Lool :) thread winner :)

jimver on June 6, 2013 at 5:44 PM

He has never been credible or transparent in his life…he is a fraud the NYT hoisted onto this country and now they want to have a moment of hand-washing. May the Koch Bros seek to buy you out.

hillsoftx on June 6, 2013 at 5:32 PM

No, Allahpundit is right. When it comes to gun-grabbing or amnesty for the illegals, the NYT will be back wearing Team rat-ears T-shirts. But here’s the thing. If the NSA can spy on Americans with this kind of impunity, there is no reason why they can’t zero in on certain reporters and do the same thing they did to James Rosen. The NYT is the beneficiary of choice among leakers. It is in their best interests to shut down any sort of scrutiny by the NSA into the phone calls of THEIR reporters.

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Hype n Change

SparkPlug on June 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Skype and Chains

VegasRick on June 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM

NB: the word “idiot” can be replaced by the phrase “OBOZO-supporting, d-cRAT socialist”.

TeaPartyNation on June 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM

And the acronym NSA can be replaced with Stasi for equal accuracy. When did national security include spying on millions of Americans?

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM

This is an obvious overreach by the NYT…

d1carter on June 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Obama loves Bush….Lindsay loves both…and McCain loves Lindsay.

Can this get any dumber!

William Eaton on June 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM

From Jane Mayer…

A White House official made the same points to reporters, saying, “The order reprinted overnight does not allow the government to listen in on anyone’s telephone calls” and was subject to “a robust legal regime.” The gist of the defense was that, in contrast to what took place under the Bush Administration, this form of secret domestic surveillance was legitimate because Congress had authorized it, and the judicial branch had ratified it, and the actual words spoken by one American to another were still private. So how bad could it be?

The answer, according to the mathematician and former Sun Microsystems engineer Susan Landau, whom I interviewed while reporting on the plight of the former N.S.A. whistleblower Thomas Drake and who is also the author of “Surveillance or Security?,” is that it’s worse than many might think.

“The public doesn’t understand,” she told me, speaking about so-called metadata. “It’s much more intrusive than content.” She explained that the government can learn immense amounts of proprietary information by studying “who you call, and who they call. If you can track that, you know exactly what is happening—you don’t need the content.”

For example, she said, in the world of business, a pattern of phone calls from key executives can reveal impending corporate takeovers. Personal phone calls can also reveal sensitive medical information: “You can see a call to a gynecologist, and then a call to an oncologist, and then a call to close family members.” And information from cell-phone towers can reveal the caller’s location. Metadata, she pointed out, can be so revelatory about whom reporters talk to in order to get sensitive stories that it can make more traditional tools in leak investigations, like search warrants and subpoenas, look quaint. “You can see the sources,” she said. When the F.B.I. obtains such records from news agencies, the Attorney General is required to sign off on each invasion of privacy. When the N.S.A. sweeps up millions of records a minute, it’s unclear if any such brakes are applied.

Metadata, Landau noted, can also reveal sensitive political information, showing, for instance, if opposition leaders are meeting, who is involved, where they gather, and for how long. Such data can reveal, too, who is romantically involved with whom, by tracking the locations of cell phones at night.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Drone strike on The Grey Lady editorial board. NSA pulled the nav data from your smart phone while spying on you. They know where you are right now. BOOM!

Philly on June 6, 2013 at 5:52 PM

I’ll wait for Jon Stewart to tell me if “this administration”(Note that they don’t say’ Obama’) has officially lost all credibility.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on June 6, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Exit question via John Ekdahl: Doesn’t the “F” in “FISA” stand for … “Foreign”? If that’s so, why does O’s phone-records dragnet include many millions of purely domestic calls?

Squirrel!

rbj on June 6, 2013 at 5:53 PM

In a desperate time the NYT has a chance to save it’s self if it will finally print a truth and break away from the WH otherwise is will go under like all the rest and become a part of history of the printed media.

mixplix on June 6, 2013 at 5:43 PM

This is only the equivilent of a “moment of clarity” in an severe alzheimer patient. They will revert back to brain dead in a few days.

VegasRick on June 6, 2013 at 5:55 PM

The editorial writer and 99.999% of the NYT staff will still vote for Obummer when he runs for his third term.

KS Rex on June 6, 2013 at 5:26 PM

I don’t think he is going to run for a third term.

tdarrington on June 6, 2013 at 5:55 PM

The defense (partially) is that it’s not conversations, only numbers. We don’t know what you said, only who you talked to and when.

Okay, what would the public think of a network of satellites that recorded their movements, all day, every day, and sent that information to the NSA. Where you went, starting point, destination and time for each.

And, we’re talking every citizen, without cause or reason.

Would that be just peachy?

IndieDogg on June 6, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Obama loves Bush….Lindsay loves both…and McCain loves Lindsay.

Can this get any dumber!

William Eaton on June 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM

It is widely believed that Communism or leftist dictatorships are diametrically opposed to those of the right, or Fascistic variety.

Like the two are opposite sides of the extremes of a line or other figure.

Well, it is actually a circle and the two are really close, although the lefties get apoplexy when you tell them that.

They are like peas in a pod. Chums.

IlikedAUH2O on June 6, 2013 at 5:59 PM

A White House official made the same points to reporters, saying, “The order reprinted overnight does not allow the government to listen in on anyone’s telephone calls” and was subject to “a robust legal regime.”

Resist We Much on June 6, 2013 at 5:51 PM

RWM,

What you posted was spot-on. This isn’t about listening. It is about gathering massive quantities of data and drawing connections. In the push to pass amnesty for the illegals (or some other controversial legislation) the administration can track the calls of opponents. They can track the calls of the people who took the calls. And so on…

This is third world banana republic tactics and there is no justification that the administration has even tried.

Happy Nomad on June 6, 2013 at 6:01 PM

It just got better…

U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

sentinelrules on June 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Was just about to post the same thing. Ruh roh…

change is for suckers on June 6, 2013 at 6:01 PM

even the NYT is upset with obama. this is wonderful… the obama administration is a train wreck that’s so fun to watch!

Sachiko on June 6, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Imagine how outraged they’ll be when their boxcar to the ‘Re-education Camp’ arrives for them.

trigon on June 6, 2013 at 6:04 PM

It just got better…

U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

sentinelrules on June 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM

I knew it.

Once one makes the rationalization on phone calls, it is not a logical leap to be tracking internet traffic of individuals.

weaselyone on June 6, 2013 at 6:05 PM

I like the picture of the light bringer (lucifer in latin) on the front page. Was it the NYT who first had the halo effect?

clnurnberg on June 6, 2013 at 6:06 PM

REPEAL the Patriot Act!!!

Don’t give me the crap about it saving lives. It’s like feeling up Granny at the TSA check in…..NOT NECESSARY!!!!

4th Amendment!

PappyD61 on June 6, 2013 at 6:07 PM

It just got better…

U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

sentinelrules on June 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Somehow I feel Americans will be more upset if the government is tracking what websites they visit instead of just who they are talking to and where they are calling from.

weaselyone on June 6, 2013 at 6:08 PM

We are all East Germans now

clnurnberg on June 6, 2013 at 6:09 PM

It just got better…

U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

sentinelrules on June 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM

what… seriously? that’s so creepy. what else is the NSA doing that the american people don’t know about? i reposted the link, check it out everyone…

Sachiko on June 6, 2013 at 6:09 PM

weaselyone on June 6, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Yep, yep, yep.

change is for suckers on June 6, 2013 at 6:10 PM

From the WaPo story linked in this thread…

The National Security Agency and the FBI are tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person’s movements and contacts over time.

Because, you know, we need this and all.

change is for suckers on June 6, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Before they start lumping Bush into the Obozo antics they should really point out the fact that the Patriot Act collected records of incoming call from overseas, not of Americans in general. If sympathizers were receiving inbound calls from specific countries the flags went up, and they probably monitored everything to that American site from that point on. This collection is Obozo’s way of policing citizens and letting Muslims living here run around willy-nilly. This is Obozo’s way of protecting his own…

stacman on June 6, 2013 at 6:14 PM

They’ll rally eventually.

oh yeah

tingles is already defending him…no worries, he’s got obama’s back….

cmsinaz on June 6, 2013 at 6:15 PM

breaking news with wolfie….
tapping into 9 internet servers

yeah, nothing to see here move along
-tingles

cmsinaz on June 6, 2013 at 6:17 PM

stacman on June 6, 2013 at 6:14 PM

thank you…he only went after targeted numbers not this wide net of numbers…clear difference but that won’t placate the libs…Its all bush’s fault

cmsinaz on June 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Has the war started yet?

Why the f*ck not?

Midas on June 6, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Remember when Obama told graduates “You’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all our problems,” Obama recently told graduates at Ohio State University. “You should reject these voices,” he added, promoting the positive role government can play.”

Good times!

JAM on June 6, 2013 at 6:23 PM

thank you…he only went after targeted numbers not this wide net of numbers…clear difference but that won’t placate the libs…Its all bush’s fault

cmsinaz on June 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM

My argument to libs. If Bush was bad on these things, Obama is 10 times worse for campaigning against them and then not only continuing the policies but expanding them.

Obama is worse than Bush.

weaselyone on June 6, 2013 at 6:25 PM

For now. Come Monday the NYT will be telling us how great Hitler is for a economically challenged Germany….er…yeah.

jukin3 on June 6, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Conservatives were right.

Can we say “I told you so”, yet?

kingsjester on June 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM

I would certainly hope that all GOP members of Congress who were briefed on this will be primaried and voted out. The Democrats too.

Everyone who stood by when they were briefed on this while saying nothing are complicit.

weaselyone on June 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM

The administration will throw some crumb to the NYT and all will be right with the world again.

Jvette on June 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM

http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/where-obamaism-seems-be-going

libfreeordie on June 6, 2013 at 5:55 PM

That guy has it wrong… I have no doubt that Obama is simply making use of these national security laws to further his own political agenda. I don’t think that the monitoring of all VZW customers has anything to do with trying to track terrorists. More likely is that it is just another tool in the bag of tricks for monitoring, intimidating and eliminating his political enemies.

preallocated on June 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Ok, at minimum, this reinforces that we really must a) dissolve the IRS, b) repeal Obamacare, and c) wow, more than that. Absent this kind of behavior, people will *never* at this point be comfortable that they haven’t been targeted at some level should they ever be audited, ever have a medical expense denied, etc.

The IRS/healthcare/and all the rest now are so tied in; did I get audited because I have a history of buying conservative books from Amazon? Was I denied that medical procedure because I’ve bought ammo with my credit card historically? Am I not getting the jobs that seem to be interviewing well because my name’s turning up on some background check database as a ‘risk’ of some kind, only because I’ve voted X or supported candidate Y?

If we don’t break this down and start over, we will *never* again sleep well, resting assured that we have some privacy, or that there’s no rat bastard bureaucrat working at the behest of some rat bastard politician now making life hell because of our political, religious, social beliefs, etc.

And I’m not just talking from a conservative perspective, my liberal friends; don’t think too favorably that the libs are doing this to us, because someday, someone you despise as much as Dubya *will* be in office again – how are you going to feel about all of this and thinking that an evil conservative government/bureaucracy might just do these things to *you*, hmmm?

We should all be able to agree as Americans that this is some seriously, seriously f*cked up scenario we find ourselves in. And there’s no clean way to put the genie back in the bottle.

Midas on June 6, 2013 at 6:39 PM

weaselyone on June 6, 2013 at 6:25 PM

yup

cmsinaz on June 6, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Those are hypotheticals, by the way; I’ve not been audited, denied coverage, and am happily and gainfully employed, lol. Just spitballing.

Midas on June 6, 2013 at 6:40 PM

And I’m not just talking from a conservative perspective, my liberal friends; don’t think too favorably that the libs are doing this to us, because someday, someone you despise as much as Dubya *will* be in office again – how are you going to feel about all of this and thinking that an evil conservative government/bureaucracy might just do these things to *you*, hmmm?

We should all be able to agree as Americans that this is some seriously, seriously f*cked up scenario we find ourselves in. And there’s no clean way to put the genie back in the bottle.

Midas

I think all of this is a way to insure that a Republican never wins again. A permanent Democrat executive branch. If they can monitor all this, they can fake a million votes. Who says they didn’t in 2012?

JAM on June 6, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Within hours of the disclosure that the federal authorities routinely collect data on phone calls Americans make, regardless of whether they have any bearing on a counterterrorism investigation, the Obama administration issued the same platitude it has offered every time President Obama has been caught overreaching in the use of his powers: Terrorists are a real menace and you should just trust us to deal with them because we have internal mechanisms (that we are not going to tell you about) to make sure we do not violate your rights.

That worked really well against the Tsarnaev brothers, which even the Russians informed us were dangerous. If NSA and the FBI like snooping on cell-phones, didn’t the Tsarnaev brothers use cell phones to blow up their pressure cookers? No, we only got them AFTER they blew the legs off over 200 Americans. Oh well, maybe they didn’t use Verizon.

No, the NSA is saving its snooping for Janet Napolitano’s “terrorists”, like Tea Party Patriots who might help people vote for Republicans, or Harry Reid’s “tax felon” Mitt Romney, or the Minutemen along the southern border who want Mexicans to stay in Mexico. They’re terrorists, because they want to end the reign of His Majesty Barack Hussein the First.

Big Brother is watching, and listening!!!

Steve Z on June 6, 2013 at 6:50 PM

I would certainly hope that all GOP members of Congress who were briefed on this will be primaried and voted out.

Starting with Flimsy Grahamnesty. Jim DeMint needs to take his old job back.

Steve Z on June 6, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Would someone please primary that bloviating jackass Lindsey Graham?

Come on. There have GOT to be better Republicans in South Carolina than that guy,

BKennedy on June 6, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Trey Gowdy?

Marybeth on June 6, 2013 at 7:15 PM

You know, I thought that Sec. Sibelius saying “Someone lives and someone dies.” about the dying little girl was going to be the all-time most grotesque statement by a politician.

But I was wrong. She held the record for merely a day or two, and then along comes Miss Lindsey to wrench it out of her cold hands, telling us we shouldn’t worry about surveillance hours before the PRISM story breaks. Incredible optics.

Miss Lindsey has now, I think, surpassed John McClain for title of “most odious nominally Republican Senator”. Congrats, Linds…

bofh on June 6, 2013 at 7:21 PM

They told me that if I voted for John McCain or Mitt Romney that this would happen

J_Crater on June 6, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Department of Redundancy Department

Sen. Kirk: “Could you assure to us that no phones inside the Capitol were monitored of members of Congress that would give a future Executive Branch … unique leverage over the legislature?”

Holder: “With all due respect, Senator, I don’t think this is an appropriate setting for me to discuss that issue. I’d be more than glad to come back in an appropriate setting to discuss the issues that you have raised. But in this open forum, I …”

Sen. Kirk: “I would interrupt you and say the correct answer would be to say, ‘No, we stayed within our lane and I’m assuring you we did not spy on members of Congress.’”

“The administration has now lost all credibility”

Yeppers. A special thanks to the low-information voters.

socalcon on June 6, 2013 at 7:41 PM

So they have the names of donors, and now they know who the donors talk to. They also have the names and numbers of Fox and AP reporters, so now they know who they talk to.

If this was about terrorism, they could stop giving visas to single muslim men. What this is about is protecting not America, but the Democrat hold on power by any means necessary. This is the machinery of totalitarianism with a touch of the Chicago Way.

When the NYT figures this part out, they will be back on board.

Spartacus on June 6, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Pic of the Day: The Front Page of The Huffington Post

Resist We Much on June 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

You are on a fresh-out-of-the-oven brioche with your posts!
(Roll just didn’t seem sufficient)

: )))))

herm2416 on June 6, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Upon reading the NYT article today, a liberal friend told me: “this is why we’re better than you.”

And he was right. Liberals are standing on principle and criticizing Obama for perpetuating the abuses of the Bush administration. We’d do we’ll to follow their lead and either defend Obama (like we did Bush), or candidly state that we are joining the liberals’ side on issues of executive power.

righty45 on June 6, 2013 at 8:11 PM

libfreeorgan on June 6, 2013 at 5:55 PM

That guy has it wrong… I have no doubt that Obama is simply making use of these national security laws to further his own political agenda….

preallocated on June 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM

…TROLLCOT…the little diCk!

KOOLAID2 on June 6, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Maybe the NYT now sees the thanks they got for being in the tank.

And while they were sucking up to Obama, their sales were drying up too. Have they put 2 and 2 together finally?

Huffington Post has a headline “George W Obama” and the ACLU thinks they have gone too far.

Even Alan Colmes seems to have cooled to the administration on this.

What will the Daily Midget, Jon Stewart, make of Lord Obama now?

How sad, now love is lost!

virgo on June 7, 2013 at 1:08 AM

He promised to fundamentally change the United States….

Today HIS tyrannical government, as reported today, is tracking your phone records, your text messages, your e-mails, Facebook posts, your YouTube posts, your pictures, and even your credit card purchases. The United States has been transformed into a nightmarish totalitarian police state where the Constitution has been tossed aside, our Rights have been trampled under this dictator’s boot, and our freedoms have been stolen as we slumbered! Forget 1984…2013 far surpasses it, just as Obama’s actions have far surpassed those of Richard Nixon.

It is time to admit that Obama & his ‘army’ are ENEMIES OF THIS NATION & ALL AMERICANS!

easyt65 on June 7, 2013 at 8:07 AM

Speaking of change…

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/06/new-york-times-quietly-changes-published-editorial-to-make-it-less-damning-of-obama/

There’s no bigger sucker in this world than a NY Times reader.

MNHawk on June 7, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Why are these intelligence bombshells suddenly bursting all over the place?

Is it to drown out the sound of Benghazi, the IRS, and others????

maybe it is purposeful. One of the intentions of the Obama administration was to “flood the zone.” Well, the zone is certainly flooded.

ted c on June 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM