Rubio: I can’t vote for this immigration bill if we don’t do more on border security

posted at 5:21 pm on June 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

The Weekly Standard has a transcript of the key exchange from last night’s Hugh Hewitt Show. Quote:

Rubio: …[W]hat we’ve heard is people don’t want to just turn it over to the Department of Homeland Security to come up with a plan. They want the plan to be laid out with specifically real measurables. I think that’s a good approach. And so we’re working with members now to do that. We expect to hear from them here in the next couple of days.”

Hewitt: “If those amendments don’t pass, will you yourself support the bill that emerged from Judiciary, Senator Rubio?”

Rubio: “Well, I think if those amendments don’t pass, then I think we’ve got a bill that isn’t going to become law and I think we’re wasting our time. So the answer is no. If they don’t pass, then we have to keep working to ensure that we get to a bill that can become a law.

Rubio fans on Twitter are noting that he’s said from the very beginning that he won’t back the bill unless it has a meaningful border-security “trigger” for the path to citizenship. That’s correct, he did say that — and then he spent the next four months working conservative media to support the Gang of Eight bill, whose idea of a “trigger” is to create a Border Commission if DHS can’t figure out a way to tighten security after five years of trying. Like Byron York, I can’t quite believe that after almost singlehandedly making Schumer’s bill viable in the Senate, Rubio’s now decided that the security part is simply too weak to stand — and that he’s being given credit for this in some righty circles. If he was all broken up about the border provisions, why didn’t he throw down the gauntlet for improvements before the Judiciary Committee passed the thing? And do note, even now the only “trigger” he’s talking about vis-a-vis border metrics is a trigger to let illegals apply for green cards. The initial probationary legalization, which is critical in giving them a claim to remain in the U.S. permanently, will still happen quickly and independently of what’s happening on the border. If you think, having legalized millions of illegals, that Congress is going to hold off on putting them on the green-card track for 20, 30, 40 years because DHS can’t get the border under control, you’re kidding yourself. Given the political pressure they’ll face over the next decade, I’d be amazed if congressional Republicans resisted caving to Democratic demands to start the citizenship process even for the 10 years that the Gang of Eight bill currently requires. If Rubio’s decided the bill’s current border-security provisions are untenable, it’s not because he’s been troubled by them all along and feels obliged to keep his initial promise. It’s because, despite his best efforts, the Gang of Eight simply won’t fly as-is among conservatives. He did his best to sell it and he couldn’t pull it off. Time for Plan B.

What’s Plan B? Rubio and John Cornyn revealed it today. They’re rolling out a new amendment that’ll demand more security than Schumer’s bill has:

The Texas Republican wants stricter border patrol provisional “triggers” before registered immigrants are allowed to apply for green card status. His amendment would require 100 percent operational control of the Southern borders and that 90 percent of illegal border crossers be apprehended. It would also require 100 percent border surveillance, or situational awareness, of each one-mile segment of the Southern border and installment of a national E-Verify system before registered immigrants can pursue green cards.

Cornyn’s amendment would also add 10,000 Border Patrol officers over five years and deliver emergency funds for border control, including $1 billion a year in entry staffing and infrastructure.

Breitbart’s sources on the Hill are treating this as a sign that Rubio’s trying to abandon the bill. If he raises the ante on border security high enough, Democrats will eventually choke on it and walk away. The Cornyn bill is, in theory, merely Rubio’s poison-pill way of wriggling out of this mess. I’m skeptical of that, just because I think he’s so invested in reform passing by now that he can’t quit without suffering political damage. If he walks, Democrats will attack him ferociously by claiming he bailed to appease Latino-hating Republicans. They’ll also claim, not incorrectly, that Rubio’s support was the only thing making passage possible and, therefore, once he quit he doomed the whole enterprise. Walking away now would probably help Rubio in the 2016 primaries but he doesn’t want to face the general election being labeled as the man who singlehandedly killed immigration reform, especially when the entire GOP’s expecting him to improve on the party’s take of the Latino vote if he’s nominated. He needs to vote yes, even if he’s now forced to hedge by supporting new border-security amendments; if Schumer refuses Cornyn’s amendment outright, Rubio will get to work on something else that might accommodate both sides. Look back at the excerpt from the Hewitt show and you’ll see that he didn’t threaten to walk away from the process if the new amendments don’t pass. He specifically says he’ll “keep working” until they arrive at something that can become law. But then, I’ve never understood why Schumer would put up a fuss about more security: It’s legalization he wants and that’s what he’ll get if something passes. If he needs to give a bit more legislatively on security and then leave it to Obama and his successor not to enforce the provisions of the bill too vigorously, that’s what he should do. And, per Guy Benson, that indeed is what he might do:

Speaking of Schumer, he’ll likely have to accede to the Cornyn/Rubio plan if it’s going to see the light of day. I’m hearing from plugged-in sources that he’s currently disposed to give it the green light. Will the vocal amnesty lobby play along?

Even if Schumer approves the Cornyn/Rubio amendment and it ends up passing in a final bill, it might be unenforceable in part. The amendment calls for DHS and the Comptroller of GAO to certify that the border’s been secured to the extent required by Cornyn’s and Rubio’s metrics. Per Conn Carroll, because the Comptroller’s technically an agent of the legislative branch, it might be unconstitutional under Supreme Court precedent to give him authority over an executive task like border enforcement. Maybe Schumer’s counting on that — although, if I were him, I’d trust in Republicans’ desire to build goodwill with Latino voters to gut the Cornyn/Rubio requirements over time more than I would the Supreme Court.

In lieu of an exit question, read Jonathan Strong on Rubio’s latest gambit. According to him, people on the Hill who are “in the midst of this fight” are skeptical that Rubio will walk. For good reason.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2

Rubio could be the anti-Christie.

This could be pure genius if he sinks this thing.

mjbrooks3 on June 5, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Hmm. Sounds like he’s finally listening to Laura Ingraham and the Hannity focus group audience.

John the Libertarian on June 5, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Too late Shoomer’s Republican, too late.
Fool me once……

burrata on June 5, 2013 at 5:24 PM

If Rubio sinks this, I’m not sure how much admiration it will garner him, but it will certainly curtail the oncoming wave of vitriol if it were to pass.

Stoic Patriot on June 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

I don’t regard Rubio as a serious guy anymore.

Piecemeal, please. The illegals can wait.

BuckeyeSam on June 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Just like the few who just couldn’t vote for Obamacare, they’ll get cover for voting for it by being “promised” that changes have been made, and vote for it. Its just a Kabuki line dance.

Mimzey on June 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

A lot of what you say is true, I think it’s all political gambling at this point. Can he sink the bill while having it remain credible that he wasn’t trying to sink it? Can he use the border security thing as a wedge to cut between pro-amnesty groups and softer supporters?

Remember; as a democratically elected politician he always has to remember the popularity of the things that he is doing. Unpopular things are only done if there is pure hubris backed by power, or if they think the thing will turn out good even if it can’t be sold as such. I’m not sold that Rubio is part of the hubris crowd as Graham appears to be.

RiverCocytus on June 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Rubio fans on Twitter are noting that he’s said from the very beginning that he won’t back the bill unless it has a meaningful border-security “trigger” for the path to citizenship.

But since Schumer & Co. won’t back any bill with that in it, unless they can strip it out before it goes to a floor vote, that basically means he apparently hasn’t understood the “deal” he’s worked so hard to put through from the start.

Then again, he may simply have an overabundant faith in Schumer’s honesty.

Something I’m pretty sure most Hotaireans don’t share.

/I know I don’t.

cheers

eon

eon on June 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM

ABC news radio about two hours ago in between Rush segments declared that “Immigration is dead in 2013″ because the House is like a hung jury, completely deadlocked on ObamaCare benefits.

Marcus on June 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I also don’t know if he’s a serious guy either, i.e. naivete is also possible as an explanation for his participation. I hope that’s not true, but then again the whole thing is probably sunk anyway. Maybe Rubio figured that out already, maybe he didn’t… maybe real border security is the ‘bee in his bonnet’, or maybe it’s just an alibi.

RiverCocytus on June 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM

He is begging for a token amendment from his liberal buddies to save amnesty.

He never cared about enforcement in his political career.

Valiant on June 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM

I agree with your analysis, AP. This strikes me as political theatrics by Rubio. He’s an opportunist who is trying to play both sides.

Even if Schumer approves the Cornyn/Rubio amendment and it ends up passing in a final bill, it might be unenforceable in part.

You know that Schumer is never going to approve anything with any enforcement teeth in it.

INC on June 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Looking for an out.

It is too late, Rubio. Scratch your presidential aspirations.

davidk on June 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM

ABC news radio about two hours ago in between Rush segments declared that “Immigration is dead in 2013″ because the House is like a hung jury, completely deadlocked on ObamaCare benefits.

Marcus on June 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Don’t believe it until you see the corpse of the bill.

sentinelrules on June 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM

“My concern would be that just a few fig-leaf amendments that don’t fix the weaknesses in the bill would be seen as sufficient for passage,” Sessions said.

Sessions is right.

INC on June 5, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Keep up the act. I’m not buying it. Rubio’s onboard hook, line, and sinker.

batter on June 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM

He is begging for a token amendment from his liberal buddies to save amnesty.

He never cared about enforcement in his political career.

Valiant on June 5, 2013 at 5:32 PM

So he’s just haggling over the price :O

burrata on June 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Rubio, Rubio, your pants are on fire. Your dad Juan McCain went through a period of claiming he was a border hawk too. You are not a border hawk, you are a Borker as well as a little worm.

Rubio, the Borker.

Remember this from National Review?

Robert Bork’s America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens’ doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists could be censored at the whim of the government, and the doors of the federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens.

The high-immigration Right has borrowed not only its immigration-policy views from Ted Kennedy, but now his political tactics as well. Grover Norquist, Linda Chavez, American Conservative Union president Al Cardenas — and Senator Marco Rubio — have launched a campaign to Bork those on the right who disagree with President Obama’s immigration plans.

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM

I think Allah is at that place Chrispy Creme mentioned yesterday re: too much time on the internet.

Too many moving pieces in your analogy AP. Rubio is getting the message he is being used by both sides is the way I see it. And dems will bash repubs over race no matter what happens. That’s their game.

And this crap about 11 million? How about we set the limit at 11 million and watch the stampede as 40 million show up. This whole immigration reform deal is anything but honest, just like the current administration.

DanMan on June 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM

And lets not forget that Marco Rubio is also a foreign policy and military genius as his strong campaign for overthrowing Gaddafi and turning Libya over to al Qaeda and fellow travelers proves. And now he is pushing to repeat that kind of great success in Syria. Allah willing … … I mean … … forward!

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Rubio has always been a border-secure first guy. He let Schumer roll him with trickery, and he’s just now getting wise. So his failure here is naivete.

John the Libertarian on June 5, 2013 at 5:38 PM

On the other hand, Rubio could turn this thing around yet by appearing in a television commercial filmed on the border, showing him clenching his teeth and demanding “Just build the damned fence!”. He could have John McCain with him to add even more credibility. They could each even wave a small American flag and sing a few bars of Yankee Doodle Dandy. Yes, this should do it. All will hail them as national patriotic heroes.

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM

That lying little weasel isn’t “abandoning” anything. It’s a set-up, a trap. He will PRETEND to oppose it, the other “Gangsters” will then make some cosmetic changes as a “concession to Rubio on border security” and they will all then pretend it’s “tough.”

Baloney. You cannot LIE to me about what’s in it and then fool me with a bait and switch.

If you are so certain you can implement border security with these laughable provisions – or whatever weak tea replaces them – then DO IT NOW, show me it works,and THEN and ONLY THEN can we discuss legalization, “paths” to citizenship, realistic immigration rules, and genuine reform.

NOT before. PERIOD.

Adjoran on June 5, 2013 at 5:41 PM

I once saw Marco Rubio kill a Grizzly Bear with his bare hands.

portlandon on June 5, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Amnesty doves like Bill Kristol have advised Rubio to walk away from the bill. The Gang of 8 bill is poison and reports today are that “Gang” talks in the House have collapsed over free healthcare for illegals. The WP is also reporting that passage of an amnesty bill would likely endanger Boehner’s speakership so they are predicting a bill with amnesty will not come to the floor in the House. Rubio’s trip to the House with Paul and Lee clearly failed to impress and he’s looking for a way out. Now it’s too late as he’s made himself the face of amnesty and as far as I’m concerned he cannot be trusted. Of course there is a simple way to save the so-called “path to citizenship”. Put enforcement first with 3-5 years to see if the laws are enforced and illegals are stopped then you can move forward with legalization. That presumes the gang of 8 bill is really about immigration “reform” but its about politics. If Rubio was too dumb to realize that he needs to be voter out of office in 2016.

Hera on June 5, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Add another 500 pages of doubletalk and he’ll be able to say border security is now strengthened. Then they’ll try and pass it before anybody can read it. That’s the usual MO.

Fenris on June 5, 2013 at 5:41 PM

turning Libya over to al Qaeda

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM

I don’t know where you get your news, but I have an acquaintance who does business with the new Libyan government, and nothing could be further from the truth. That’s like saying the gangs in Chicago or Los Angeles really run the whole state.

John the Libertarian on June 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

I must have really gotten to him when I sent back his money-plea flyer in his pre-paid envelope with no money, just a note that said “Buzz off, amnesty traitor!”

SailorMark on June 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

So his failure here is naivete.

John the Libertarian on June 5, 2013 at 5:38 PM

A six year old could not be that naive and for so long.

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Rubio really is a rube. Nothing can save him now.

Nessuno on June 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

John the Libertarian on June 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

the fact your shilling for rubio on this thread proves without any doubt what a stinker he is.

adios marco.

renalin on June 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Why are we negotiating on Border Security?

What is the Democrat’s position against border security?
Do they believe it is already secure?
Do they believe it will never be secure?
Do they not want it secure?

Seriously. Why are we negotiating with them over border security? Are they really not in favor of a secure border? If that is the case, we should be hammering them for opposing security simply as a negotiating tactic to legalize millions.

Make Democrats defend the fact that they are opposing border security.

weaselyone on June 5, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I don’t know where you get your news, but I have an acquaintance who does business with the new Libyan government, and nothing could be further from the truth. That’s like saying the gangs in Chicago or Los Angeles really run the whole state.

John the Libertarian on June 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

You might want to tell that to the relatives of the four Americans killed in Benghazi. As to your acquaintance who does his business over there … … sounds like he will do business with anyone for enough money, so I wouldn’t get too close to him.

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:46 PM

If this all falls apart we can ironically thank the squishy RINO elites and the RNC/consultancy class that waived the white flag on amnesty. The surrender emboldened the dems and they demanded that they get to write the entire bill which is so left wing it just can’t be swallowed by enough Republicans and red state democrats.

Wigglesworth on June 5, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Sessions is a god on this issue. Cruz right behind him, then Grassley.

Rubio is, at best, a fool. Or more likely, a confirmed pro-amnesty shill, perfected in the Florida House by blocking all enforcement bills, now trying to pose as a serious rainmaker in the Senate.

A pox on him and his ilk.

Any Republican taking Schumer’s advice on immigration is an idiot.

See my previous post on those “fresh Republican voters?”:

Report on the demise of the GOP (by suicide) from the front lines:

Dateline – Reno, NV – May 29

2 to 3 thousand illegal aliens and their supporters filled the sanctuary to overflowing at the Little Flower Catholic church for a rally for the “Campaign for Citizenship”. And not just ordinary citizenship – but INEXPENSIVE citizenship (fees are too expensive, don’t ya’ know). And for EVERY “immigrant” – not just those who are not felons, for instance.

Sen. Harry Reid was the featured speaker. Both Senator Dean Heller (R) and local Congressman Mark Amodei (R) were “invited” but did not attend.

The hundreds of multi-color pre-printed slick programs had a plea to call a toll-free number provided by PICO (an umbrella front for liberal community organizing groups) 1-888-979-7506 to call DAILY to request that Heller and Amodei support a Path to Citizenship.

BTW – you can use that toll-free number’s option to contact the Capitol switchboard and then talk to ANYONE – ANYTIME – courtesy of the community organizers.

The main speaker, Teresa Navarro of PLAN and Justice for Immigrants, openly ridiculed Heller and Amodei for not appearing while she was introducing Reid. After Reid spoke she led the throng in English and Spanish in “yes we can” after pointing out the humiliating set of empty chairs on the center stage with Heller’s and Amodei’s names on signs. The center stage was not used for any other purpose – all speakers sat at the sides of the stage.

Does anyone (McCain, Rubio, Buehller??) seriously think those thousands of attendees were anxiously waiting to register as Republicans? Will the strategy of INSULTING those politicians whose votes you are courting succeed?

HINT: Use the toll-free number to call your Senators and Congresscritters and tell them what you think.

BTW – this POLITICAL rally at a RELIGIOUS site (sanctuary of a Catholic church) conveniently had almost 100 “quiet mics” for translators for the as yet – unassimilated Spanish-speakers – courtesy of the Washoe County (public tax payer-funded) School District.

fred5678 on June 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Make Democrats defend the fact that they are opposing border security.
weaselyone on June 5, 2013 at 5:46 PM

That.

burrata on June 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM

With Christie moving to the Democratic Party for 2016, Rubio is trying to circle back to the Republicans.

Freddy on June 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM

This is all gamesmanship to make Rubio look tough after bending over for Chucky Schumer.

If the bill passes, Rubio will never recover…in part because the GOP will have Thelma and Louise’d with the nation sitting in the passenger seat.

If he finds a way to wriggle away and the bill dies, he may recover eventually, but he has lost a lot of us. There is no way I can trust a guy so naive, or so arrogant to think he could spin this craptastic sandwich to conservatives, and even worse who thinks this is a good idea for the nation.

Im out on Rubio.

Paul/Cruz 2016

alecj on June 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM

fred5678 on June 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Did they turn off the lights to maintain a nice shadow in that hall?

Freddy on June 5, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Obama and Rubio – The Tag Team for the Destruction of America.

Rumor has it that since Barack and Michelle always wanted a son, and Trayvon Martin is no longer available, they now wish to adopted Marco Rubio and change his name to Little Barack or Barackito for short..

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:51 PM

If Marco Rubio can change sides at this late day, Robert E. lee should be able too also.

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Oh how I hope this is true. Get out Marco!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/05/Senate-aide-Rubio-trying-to-get-out-of-the-Gang-of-Eight

Wigglesworth on June 5, 2013 at 5:54 PM

he doesn’t want to face the general election being labeled as the man who singlehandedly killed immigration reform

Really? I think this concept might make him a hero to the majority of voters, who, in poll after poll show a high distaste for comprehensive immigration reform.

JonPrichard on June 5, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Little Barack or Barackito for short..

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Heh.

SailorMark on June 5, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Just kill the dang thing! Its like gun control all over, we hear its dead, and then some fool comes along to give it CPR. Let it die.

El_Terrible on June 5, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Jessie James reported to be trying to get out of the Jessie James Gang.

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:55 PM

REPORT: Rubio wants out of Gang of Eight Quislings
…Hey, rubio – once you get the STENCH of TRAITOR on you from conspiring with chucky schumer and AMNESTY-JOHN McRINO, you can NEVER, EVER get rid of it.

TeaPartyNation on June 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM

If he walks, Democrats will attack him ferociously by claiming he bailed to appease Latino-hating Republicans.

I’d trust in Republicans’ desire to build goodwill with Latino voters.

Since when did one special interest ethnic group get to dictate terms, of economics, immigration and national security to the rest of us 300 million Americans?

Border Security. No amnesty for lawbreakers & cheats.

MichaelGabriel on June 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Rubio has revealed his escape hatch..:)

Dire Straits on June 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Rubio trying to get out of the gang of Eight is like Custer trying to get out of the 7th carvery on the day of the Little Big Horn, telling the Indians that he is just a tourist who got lost.

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM

I believe most Opinion Polls have pretty much been consistent in relation to the following:

1. Most Americans support a path to citizenship to those who are here already.

2. Most Americans support ensuring that the border is secure to prevent mass illegal immigration in the future.

This bill is a Democrat dream.

Dems and a most GOP are in favor of #1.
Only the GOP is pushing #2.

Why aren’t Democrats in favor of securing the border?

This is a populist argument and is a winning question.

Most people realize we cannot do #1 until #2 is complete.

Democrats would rather just skip to #2 every 10-20 years.

The GOP policiy in debating immigration has always been to secure the border first. This has essentially been a pre-condition to negotiate on any immigration legislation for years.

If immigration reform fails, it is completely on the democrats for not supporting border enforcement.

weaselyone on June 5, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Did they turn off the lights to maintain a nice shadow in that hall?

Freddy on June 5, 2013 at 5:51 PM

No – lights were full on – no candles, either.

I sat there for 2 hours surrounded by foreign invaders DEMANDING not just immediate citizenship, but CHEAP immediate citizenship, with NO RESTRICTIONS on criminal records, etc.

My tongue is still bleeding from biting it for those 2 hours, instead of standing up and screaming at the top of my lungs, “WTF?? GO HOME AND GET IN LINE, you a$$holes!”

I bet Rubio counted noses last night after Christie failed to immediately appoint a pro-amnesty Republican, hence no Lautenberg vote to reach cloture for many months.

fred5678 on June 5, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Rubio: Over Rated and ready for retirement.

wyntre on June 5, 2013 at 6:04 PM

If we do give them amnesty what amnesty does the rest of America get?

CW on June 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM

‘Since when did one special interest ethnic group get to dictate terms, of economics, immigration and national security to the rest of us 300 million Americans?”

Since the POS stole the election twice.

wyntre on June 5, 2013 at 6:07 PM

I’d be amazed if congressional Republicans resisted caving to Democratic demands to start the citizenship process even for the 10 years that the Gang of Eight bill currently requires.

If you read the fine print, for those who are Dream Act eligible, it’s already FIVE years.

I think Rubio is trying to walk a tightrope and have it both ways here.

Let’s separate border enforcement and pass a border enforcement bill. If that’s successful, THEN we start talking about legalization and a path to citizenship.

TarheelBen on June 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Allah

I think he’s so invested in reform passing by now that he can’t quit without suffering political damage

What if he’s decided that bailing on his bill is the less damaging path? He’s still young. He shot his 2016 chances to heL but he can still keep his senate seat…maybe?

BoxHead1 on June 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Obama and Rubio – The Tag Team for the Destruction of America.

Rumor has it that since Barack and Michelle always wanted a son, and Trayvon Martin is no longer available, they now wish to adopted Marco Rubio and change his name to Little Barack or Barackito for short..

VorDaj on June 5, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Let’s just be grateful Barry didn’t have a son. You know how dictators like to pass on the dictatorship to their sons.

slickwillie2001 on June 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Let’s separate border enforcement and pass a border enforcement bill. If that’s successful, THEN we start talking about legalization and a path to citizenship.

TarheelBen on June 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM

This.

What was the point of the Bush comprehensive immigration reform failure if not to point out that Americans overwhelmingly want the border secured first?

Bring up an independent border security bill with timelines etc. and an enforcement mechanism for defunding some portion of the Executive Branch if the targets aren’t met. Let the Democrats openly fight against border security at their own peril.

Why do we keep giving them a pass on their position in relation to border security?

weaselyone on June 5, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Kill the Gang of 8′s Amnesty Bill!

Start ENFORCING our current laws against ILLEGAL immigration NOW!

wren on June 5, 2013 at 6:14 PM

The Texas Republican wants stricter border patrol provisional “triggers” before registered immigrants are allowed to apply for green card status.

Which is essentially no different than what is being offered now, which is amnesty and legalization first with a promise to maybe secure the border sometime in the distant future.

xblade on June 5, 2013 at 6:16 PM

You could see this coming from miles away. As soon as there was blowback, Rubio was looking for the proper exit while still claiming to be for some sort of immigration solution.

Tater Salad on June 5, 2013 at 6:16 PM

TRANSLATION: My poll numbers are tanking and people saying bad things about me. Better start muttering the right words again.

kim roy on June 5, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Glad to see they mentioned this over at Brietbart.

Every commercial break on the Hugh Hewitt show has one of these ads.

Evangelical Leader Provides Voice for Pro-Immigration Soros Front Group

MichaelGabriel on June 5, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Rubio: …[W]hat we’ve heard is people don’t want to just turn it over to the Department of Homeland Security to come up with a plan. They want the plan to be laid out with specifically real measurables.

LOL. We want the treasonous plan to die and everybody who supported and pushed it to be charged with treason, you treasonous little worm.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 5, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Rubio has always been a border-secure first guy. He let Schumer roll him with trickery, and he’s just now getting wise. So his failure here is naivete.

John the Libertarian

Speaking of naivete….

xblade on June 5, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Anybody who didn’t think that, in light of Rubio’s history, he would push this bill SO HARD only to disavow it late in the game on account of “those intransigent Democrats,” wasn’t paying attention.

He’s not the best leader, but he’s a FANTASTIC politician.

mintycrys on June 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Rubio has always been a border-secure first guy.

LOL. Rubio hates the idea of American sovereignty.

He let Schumer roll him with trickery,

ROFLMAO! “trickery”? That’s funny. Rubio jumped into this head-first and still then went deeper and deeper. He wasn’t “tricked” by anyone – not that it would be difficult to trick and idiot like Rubio.

and he’s just now getting wise. So his failure here is naivete.

John the Libertarian on June 5, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Rubio’s failure is that he’s a treasonous little worm. He needs to be stepped on and squashed. He’s slime. Treasonous slime. And an idiot. And a leech off of government. Maybe if Rubio had ever actually had a job he might not have been such a total traitor and azzwipe. Probably not, but maybe.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Key words:

turn it over to the Department of Homeland Security to come up with a plan

With all the scandals swirling around and with all the signs Obamacare is already being mismanaged, what Republican politician with sights on the White House would vote to turn this matter, of grave national importants, over to yet another part of the Federal bureauracy. Maybe before Rubio might have done it, but not now.

Scopper on June 5, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Is it just me, or are Republicans who were once championed as the top hopefuls for the White House in ’16, dropping like flies. Christie has seemingly self destructed. And Rubio seems to be playing Russian roulette on immigration. Is Bobby Jindal my man in three years?

Scopper on June 5, 2013 at 6:42 PM

What does he mean “more”? There aren’t any border security requirements in the bill. Just a hopeful wish for an honest effort. (Hah!) Likely he’s just looking for some political cover and he’ll claim success and fold as soon as Democrats add another mealy-worded vague goal with no enforcement.

Socratease on June 5, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Piecemeal, please. The illegals can wait.

BuckeyeSam on June 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

I’m with you…I think.

We have existing laws that this administration is unwilling to enforce, nor allow states to enforce.

No path to citizenship, status, or the outhouse until that border is secured and the only place people are crossing is at official entries with CBP personel.

freedomfirst on June 5, 2013 at 6:58 PM

I once saw Marco Rubio kill a Grizzly Bear with his bare hands.

portlandon on June 5, 2013 at 5:41 PM

“Did I ever tell you about the time Marco Rubio and I went horseback riding, but there weren’t any horses around? Anyway, Rubio throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn’t ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Rubio decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I’m running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they’re about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, hes a human.”

Mimzey on June 5, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Don’t be fooled. Beware the Rubio-Cornyn amnesty rope-a-dope.

http://www.redstate.com/2013/0

Wigglesworth on June 5, 2013 at 7:26 PM

If they are legalized without a path to citizenship there will be even more pressure on Republicans in the future to grant them a path to citizenship regardless of border security and enforcement.

Wigglesworth on June 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM

So in the end Rubio may abandon this Amnesty disgrace. What an IDIOT! What has this gotten him? He has turned off countless numbers of conservatives who will never trust him again. For what? Not even to get the damn thing passed? This has been one of the stupidest political moves in recent years. Rubio was a hero to conservatives before this. Now he is hated by many of them… for nothing! I for one am glad because he has done us all a huge favor. He has shown all conservatives that he is far too stupid and untrustworthy to earn our votes. You want a real conservative Hispanic for President…. his name is Ted Cruz.

MPan on June 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM

The only thing worse than a 2000 page all encompassing “omnibus” style bill is a bipartisan 2000 page all encompassing bill.

“Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.” G.Carlin

can_con on June 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM

If they are legalized without a path to citizenship there will be even more pressure on Republicans in the future to grant them a path to citizenship regardless of border security and enforcement.

Wigglesworth on June 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM

I have an idea. Why not tell them they’ve won citizenship and when they show up to get their papers, ya bag all of them? Kinda like those police stings where they have criminals “come out of the shadows” to claim a prize they thought they won.

Just a dream…sigh.

Mimzey on June 5, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Frankly, I’m offended by some of the comments in this thread directed at the flotus Rubio. Some comments border on racism

nonpartisan on June 5, 2013 at 1:07 PM

This comment was just aching to be brought over from the MO thread.

RickB on June 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Lets just say it out loud:

We don’t want compromise. We want the migration to stop. We don’t want to pay for half the worlds existence. We do not want to be part of a collective, and I don’t want to be a part of a village that claims authority over everyone’s children.

BobMbx on June 5, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Mimzey on June 5, 2013 at 7:01 PM

You’re suffering from a John McCain overdose. Lie down, watch 2-3 episodes of “Build It Bigger”, and you should be all right.

BobMbx on June 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM

1986 – “There will be NO more amnesty. We WILL secure our borders.”

2013 – “Trust us!”

Yeah. Right.

GarandFan on June 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Up yours, Rubio.

I don’t care what you and the other bought-off Senatwits add to it. This bill is just an attempt to legitimize, and profit from, a slave labor force funded by the legitimate citizenry through entitlements. We’ve been down this road before, in the Eighties.

Rubio: Walks like a duck, talks like duck; yep, he’s a lyin’-a** duck, alright.

M240H on June 5, 2013 at 8:16 PM

This comment was just aching to be brought over from the MO thread.

RickB on June 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM

LoLz..Hilarious..:)

Dire Straits on June 5, 2013 at 8:26 PM

You’re suffering from a John McCain overdose. Lie down, watch 2-3 episodes of “Build It Bigger”, and you should be all right.

BobMbx on June 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Thanks..I’ll give it a try.
Can I sip some Scotch while I recover?

Mimzey on June 5, 2013 at 8:32 PM

His amendment would require 100 percent operational control of the Southern borders and that 90 percent of illegal border crossers be apprehended.

Irrational and not measurable–to determine a %, you have to determine the totality of the quantity….they have been guesstimating illegals for decades, now they can determine a firm number—wth?

hillsoftx on June 5, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Hmmm….feedback.

KirknBurker on June 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Rubio is not really in the running for 2016 now after this immigration fiasco.

It’s one of the four:

Paul
Cruz
Walker
West

KirknBurker on June 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Rubio is an opportunist. He sees this thing is going to fail so he’ll jump ship, hoping to increase his cred while biding his time for the next chance to attempt amnesty.

This guy is not to be trusted.

Ukiah on June 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Oh swell. Even when it looks like immigrants are following the legal path to U.S. citizenship, they are doing it ILLEGALLY.

From today’s San Francisco Chronicle:

San Francisco ex-immigration officer sentenced

A former federal immigration officer in San Francisco has been sentenced to three years and two months in prison for taking kickbacks to give immigrants passing scores on citizenship tests.

Abdulaziz Khalil pleaded guilty in February to 11 felony charges, including false certification of a citizenship application and conspiracy to defraud the United States. He was sentenced Monday by U.S. District Judge Richard Seeborg.

Khalil was a district adjudication officer with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services from 2003 until December 2008. In his plea agreement, he admitted that during his last four months at work he teamed with a friend to recruit applicants for citizenship and guarantee passing grades on tests to demonstrate their proficiency in English and their knowledge of the Constitution.

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/S-F-ex-immigration-officer-sentenced-4581029.php

How many people think a sentence of 3 years and 2 months is enough for a government employee who sold U.S. Citizenship to people who couldn’t speak English or pass the citizenship test?

Clean up the CORRUPTION with the current immigration system,
before you even think about giving ILLEGAL aliens any sort of legal status.

wren on June 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Lets just say it out loud:

We don’t want compromise. We want the migration to stop. We don’t want to pay for half the worlds existence.

BobMbx on June 5, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Okay, except let’s say it louder.

WE DON’T WANT TO PAY FOR HALF THE WORLDS EXISTENCE.

OPEN BORDERS + WELFARE STATE = CERTAIN DISASTER

lynncgb on June 5, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Get out, while you can, Rubio!

Make Obama pick this crap out of the trashcan.

virgo on June 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM

I don’t believe him. It’s plan b alright; to rick-roll US like Kennedy did Reagan promising security and never following thru. As well as underestimating the number of illegals getting amnesty.

AH_C on June 6, 2013 at 1:23 AM

I believe most Opinion Polls have pretty much been consistent in relation to the following:

1. Most Americans support a path to citizenship to those who are here already.


weaselyone on June 5, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Uh, in a word, NO. You are referring to the polls that offer the tired old false dichotomy of: Do you favor the mass deportation of 11 million illegal aliens or should we allow them to become citizens over time after paying taxes and fines, learning English, … blah blah blah.

STUDY THIS POLL — the only one to offer all 3 choices, and with concrete bills to represent 2 of them.

And if you want to see attrition in action, listen to this illegal alien explain it (through a translator).

fred5678 on June 6, 2013 at 1:32 AM

Rubio’s name and voice are being constantly featured in radio/tv spots on a national basis, with Memphasis on conservative outlets and markets where he would presumably be most effective (with back-up in a cameo role from Wisconsin GOP Rep. Paul Ryan).

The ads are sponsored by a Mark Zuckerberg-Silicon Valley group calling itself “Americans for a Conservative Direction.” Oddly, before these ads appeared, no one had ever thought to describe the Obama-loving Silicon Valley moguls as “Republican,” much less “conservative,” in outlook.

More here: http://cnsnews.com/blog/m-stanton-evans/rubio-fronts-schumer-durbin

Rubio knows exactly what he is doing and what I’ve read on how he blocked any Immigration anything in FL, this is the real Rubio; aka RINO.

bluefox on June 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Comment pages: 1 2