Report: NSA collecting daily phone logs of millions of American Verizon customers

posted at 9:21 pm on June 5, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

It’s beginning to look like the Obama administration is not at all interested in targeting domestic surveillance in any way that might attempt to mitigate its violations of privacy or increase its odds of actually finding people doing something illegal. Attorney General Eric Holder’s Department of Justice cast a wide net in his search of AP phone logs, was the picture of intrusiveness in the James Rosen case, and now NSA is targeting millions of Americans for daily data collection?

Glenn Greenwald reports on secret court order, issued in April, which compelled one of the nation’s largest telecom providers to hand over daily call logs to the federal government. The information did not include actual content of conversations, but it included everything but:

The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America’s largest telecoms providers, under a top secret court order issued in April.

The order, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, requires Verizon on an “ongoing, daily basis” to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the US and between the US and other countries.

The document shows for the first time that under the Obama administration the communication records of millions of US citizens are being collected indiscriminately and in bulk – regardless of whether they are suspected of any wrongdoing.

The secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (Fisa) granted the order to the FBI on April 25, giving the government unlimited authority to obtain the data for a specified three-month period ending on July 19.

Under the terms of the blanket order, the numbers of both parties on a call are handed over, as is location data, call duration, unique identifiers, and the time and duration of all calls. The contents of the conversation itself are not covered.

If you have any calls of a sensitive nature to make, you may want to wait until July 19, when the order expires. Will newly minted NSA Susan Rice, Holder, or President Obama know anything about this until they read it in the paper tomorrow?

TechCrunch notes that longtime skepticism of Bush-era Patriot Act provisions, and how the government interprets them, wedded to the newly more plausible scenario of political adversaries being targeted with such powers is a potent one:

The Senate’s tech-savviest member, Ron Wyden (CrunchGov Grade: A), has been discretely warning citizens of these kinds of secretive government projects. “There is now a significant gap between what most Americans think the law allows and what the government secretly claims the law allows,” wrote Wyden and Senator Mark Udall to embattled Attorney Eric Holder.

The order apparently draws from a 2001 Bush-era provision in the Patriot Act (50 USC section 1861). The revelation dovetails similar exposes on massive government spying projects, including one project to combine federal datasets and look for patterns on anything which could be related to terrorism.

Late last year, I wrote about a few actual harms that citizens should be worried about from these types of big-data spying programs. Blackmailing citizens critical of the government seemed like a distant hypothetical, until we learned that the IRS was auditing Tea Party groups and journalists were being wiretapped. Nefarious actors inside the government like to abuse national security programs for political ends, and that should make us all (even more) suspect of government spying.

You can read the whole court order, here. It’s signed by FISA court judge Roger Vinson, whose name you may remember because he’s also the federal judge who declared the Obamacare individual mandate an unconstitutional regulation of economic inactivity back in 2011.

Update: The Electronic Frontier Foundation, which has long accused the government of this type of surveillance, says this action is being undertaken under a section of the Patriot Act, but is a clear overstep of the law’s requirement that it be targeted at individuals under some sort of suspicion in specific investigations:

“This confirms what we had long suspected,” says Cindy Cohn, an attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a civil liberties organization that has long accused the government of operating a secret dragnet surveillance program. “We’ve been suing over this since 2006.”

The order is based on Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which allows law enforcement to obtain a wide variety of “business records,” including calling records. EFF has long criticized Section 215, which sets a threshold for obtaining records much lower than the “probable cause” standard required to get a search warrant.

But Cohn argues that the kind of dragnet surveillance suggested by the Verizon order exceeds even the authority granted by the Patriot Act. “Section 215 is written as if they’re going after individual people based on individual investigations,” she says. In contrast, the order leaked to the Guardian affects “millions and millions of innocent people. There’s no way all of our calling records are relevant to a terrorism investigation.”

“I don’t think Congress thought it was authorizing dragnet surveillance” when it passed the Patriot Act, Cohn says. “I don’t think Americans think that’s OK. I would be shocked if the majority of congressmen thought it’s okay.”

Update: Obligatory flashback with soaring, beautifully worded hypocrisy.

Update: The other obligatory flashback to USA Today‘s reporting on what was presumably the same program, under the Bush administration, in 2006. This is separate from the warrantless wiretapping story, which got much more press. Greenwald’s court order is the first documentation of the practice continuing under Obama, despite the fact he was elected on promises to do pretty much the opposite:

The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.
The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren’t suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews.

“It’s the largest database ever assembled in the world,” said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA’s activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency’s goal is “to create a database of every call ever made” within the nation’s borders, this person added.

For the customers of these companies, it means that the government has detailed records of calls they made — across town or across the country — to family members, co-workers, business contacts and others.

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Wait, what? Was that English? Reiteration requested. Slow and steady. Short words.

Axe on June 5, 2013 at 10:21 PM

The Picture of an ape creature with a pucker factor approaching 15..

Right above Canophor falling asleep..

Where is Canophor anyway…

Electrongod on June 5, 2013 at 10:25 PM

wonderful! they can hear my wife tell me to get a gal of milk. Have fun with that one a$$holes…

ted c on June 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM

crap…
not on top of a new page….

Electrongod on June 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Funny.. I once thought stuff like this was illegal.

And what about this “right to privacy” they found in the constitution to justify abortion? I guess that only applies to abortion.

Yeah.. it’s a freaking glorious Utopia. But why stop at phone records? Why not demand we right a report of every freaking word we uttered and discussion we had with every single individual we came in contact with, including our prayers, day after day. We could submit it over the internet just before we go to bed.. as the night shift comes on. You know the night shift? The guy who’ll be recording what we say in our sleep.

JellyToast on June 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Al Gore Al GoreVerified account ‏@algore

In digital era, privacy must be a priority. Is it just me, or is secret blanket surveillance obscenely outrageous? http://ow.ly/lKS13

Resist We Much on June 5, 2013 at 9:49 PM

And he would know obscenely outrageous. :)

Axe on June 5, 2013 at 10:01 PM

I wonder if Verizon ‘released’ Al’s chakra, along with his phone records.

Resist We Much on June 5, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Now what is, is the exact location and content of the call/message. That info can only be gathered by subpoena.

Also if a blocked number calls you or you call from a blocked number that also doesn’t show up on your call records. That info would also require a subpoena to be released.

Politricks on June 5, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Subpoenas, huh? Oh well now I feel better.

Say, it’s illegal for the IRS to release an organization’s tax records without authorization too, right?

Bishop on June 5, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Why don’t you run outside and show your purple stained thumb peni$ to the onlookers above…

Electrongod on June 5, 2013 at 10:06 PM

…fixed it for you E g ! ….we’re TROLLCOTTING too!

KOOLAID2 on June 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM

…TROLLCOT!

KOOLAID2 on June 5, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Look at the crease in his pants though!

Come on! Who could have seen this coming? If you can’t trust a guy with perfect pant creases, then we might as well shut this whole thing down….sigh….

jjjdad on June 5, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Tweet from 2007:

Zogby poll: Majority supports impeaching Bush for wiretapping by a margin of 52 to 43 percent

I assume that not many Republicans supported that in 2007. If Democrats and Indies stand pat and Republicans move, then, dude, we could hit some serious high numbers. /

Resist We Much on June 5, 2013 at 10:32 PM

I wonder if Verizon ‘released’ Al’s chakra, along with his phone records.

Resist We Much on June 5, 2013 at 10:28 PM

lol, his contacts give him this mystic spirit crap in another language while really saying “how long is this torture going to last” and “gtfoh fatso.”

arnold ziffel on June 5, 2013 at 10:32 PM

fixed it for you E g ! ….we’re TROLLCOTTING too!

KOOLAID2 on June 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Rodger that…

:)

Electrongod on June 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM

I wonder if Verizon ‘released’ Al’s chakra, along with his phone records.

Resist We Much on June 5, 2013 at 10:28 PM

lol — lower chakra. I guess the others were OK.

Axe on June 5, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Damn…I guess I get a new service provider first thing in the morning.

shar61 on June 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM

If you think using a prepaid phone is of any help, you seriously underestimate the power of data mining.

I never read slate, but here’s one anyway.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/03/19/smart_appliances_could_help_cia_spy_says_petraeus_.html

No Mr. Jones, you weren’t home. The fridge wasn’t opened at 6:15 am, and no toilet was ever flushed. And the prepaid you bought at Target, with cash, well that’s what the facial recognition software is for.

There is NO such thing as a conspiracy nut anymore.

WryTrvllr on June 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Has Lindsay Graham and Maverick weighed in on this situation yet?

arnold ziffel on June 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM

There is NO such thing as a conspiracy nut anymore.

WryTrvllr on June 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Yes! Verry good.

You can’t even call numbers they anticipate.

I have public phones and four prepaids just to irritate them.

IlikedAUH2O on June 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Second look at phone booths? Couriers? Two tin cans and a string?

lynncgb on June 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM

John Nolte ‏@NolteNC

American Media did NOT break IRS, Verizon, or Libya. Utter failures and lapdog losers.

Think about that a minute…

d1carter on June 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM

IRS, DOJ, NSA and they call people paranoid for thinking the gov’t is out to get them.

HumpBot Salvation on June 5, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Well obama promised transparency…I thought he was talking about the gov’t not the citizens.

HumpBot Salvation on June 5, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Should Congress name a Select Scandal Committee to do nothing but investigate all the scandals popping up..?

d1carter on June 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Messenger pigeons!

lynncgb on June 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Pony Express!

lynncgb on June 5, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Obama only found out about this when he saw a tweet on his blackberry.

HumpBot Salvation on June 5, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Anybody posting here on a Verizon phone..?

d1carter on June 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Second look at two, empty soup cans and a piece of string?

Resist We Much on June 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Were the Boston Bombers AT&T customers..?

d1carter on June 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Big brother is watching you.

The Rogue Tomato on June 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

My daughter’s boyfriend showed her how to take a picture of someone from their own computer’s camera, while they thought it was off.

WryTrvllr on June 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM

So what does Apple do? They put one on both sides!

WryTrvllr on June 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM

What’s King Barry trying to do? Out Bush President Bush?

GarandFan on June 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

It’s critical to consider the other side of this operation: Are All Telephone Calls Recorded and Accessible to the US Government?

This second operation records everything, the voice conversations, onto hard drives as digital recordings. When they say that the government is not listening in on citizens, it’s technically true. A machine is doing it. Cheap digital storage has made this easy.

The first operation described in this HA article comprises the index for the second operation.

What this means is that with a search warrant (at least nominally?) they can now use the logs to retrieve the calls they have an interest in and listen in on those calls made in the past by someone that they only now decide they have an interest in. In effect, retroactive telephone surveillance.

With the search warrant (?) they can of course also do real-time phone taps.

slickwillie2001 on June 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I will be creating my own code language.
Also, there goes HIPAA.

bazil9 on June 5, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Uh-oh, my friend.

Are you and I in trouble or what?????

GrannyDee on June 5, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Check this out:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Dack Thrombosis on June 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Wired reported on this and nobody seemed to care.

American Idol was on.

A shame that this stupid NSA / telephone blip is catching some attention while the bigger picture is being missed.

tetriskid on June 6, 2013 at 12:02 AM

I will be creating my own code language.
Also, there goes HIPAA.

bazil9 on June 5, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Once the IRS has access to all of our health records, HIPAA means nothing.

slickwillie2001 on June 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

All this technology and instant gratification we all love is going to bite us in the buttski.

Cindy Munford on June 6, 2013 at 12:37 AM

When fascist are liberals it is like it is supposed to be.

pat on June 6, 2013 at 12:41 AM

The incompetents running this don’t know how to make sense of the crap they recorded. But they need to be fired for trying.

virgo on June 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM

FBI is doing the collecting. NSA is apparently simply in the data path. It is FBI requesting the data.

crosspatch on June 6, 2013 at 12:51 AM

And this is important because FBI works for Holder. NSA doesn’t.

crosspatch on June 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Welcome to the police state. The east Germany and USSR government NEVER went this far. It’s time to wake up people. Our government is out of control and we have a very short time to sav e our freedoms.

unseen on June 6, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Occasionally, I use a Verizon cellular modem as a backup to my other internet connections.

I wonder if they are reporting URL’s of sites visited, length of time spent on each site, number of bytes transmitted at each etc.?

……………………………………..

The contents of the conversation itself are not covered.

Was it Maxwell Smart who used to say : “That’s what they want you to believe.”

LegendHasIt on June 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM

assume that not many Republicans supported that in 2007. If Democrats and Indies stand pat and Republicans move, then, dude, we could hit some serious high numbers. /

Resist We Much on June 5, 2013 at 10:32 PM

which part of these do you not understand. This is no longer a GOP vs dem issue. Its the elites vs us. the gov is out of control. It’s too big, its too powerful, it is the monster our founders warned us against. And some of us have been trying to tell you this for years. Obama and bush are two peas from the same pod. And the next POTUS will be the same. The elites control EVERYTHING. Our money, our information, access to the levers of power and our media. Until people wake the hell up and stop this crap political party bullcrap and unite against the controlling elites within this country we are doomed. Believing one party is “good” and one is bad is what they want you to think. They want the people divided.

the patriot act needs to be repealed. It’s that simple. Obamacare needs to be repealed. Just about every bill written and passed over the last 30 years needs to be repealed.

The FEDeral reserve needs to be destroyed and the earth salted where its headquarters where.

unseen on June 6, 2013 at 1:07 AM

unseen on June 6, 2013 at 1:07 AM

I don’t much disagree with what you say.
But unfortunately, it isn’t going to happen. The only way that anything is going to get fixed, is if we get a complete do over, and rebuild from the ashes

LegendHasIt on June 6, 2013 at 1:15 AM

LegendHasIt on June 6, 2013 at 1:15 AM

+1

Schadenfreude on June 6, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Every time I see the words “impeach” and “Obama” in the same sentence I skip on to the next article or comment. We all know it isn’t going to happen, and wishful thinking and a buck will get you a cup of coffee.

I’m a Verizon customer. If the government wants to snoop on my calls to my children and my husband, they’re welcome to the information. Maybe it will keep them out of more serious mischief.

Sure, it’s an abominable breach of people’s privacy. People will scream about it and politicians will make gaseous speeches, huffing and puffing their indignation, and nothing will happen, and the Obama administration will go on its merry way violating the law whenever it becomes convenient, and sometimes just because it can. Those two new Obama appointments were a giant middle finger lifted solely for the benefit of the American people.

I can’t even listen to Rush anymore. He’s become so dismal and hopeless that he depresses me to the point I can barely function. In sheer self defense I have to turn him off.

If there is any hope for the country and Liberty, I can’t see it from here. We had one decent chance and we blew it.

America was good while it lasted.

hachiban on June 6, 2013 at 2:07 AM

Both ends of conversations are monitored. Doesn’t matter if you are a Verizon customer. If you have been called by a Verizon phone, you’ve been monitored, Komrad.

kurtzz3 on June 6, 2013 at 2:19 AM

I would like to see a class action lawsuit against the FBI to stop them from requiring such records from phone companies. I don’t even think that the request for all of the Verizon telephone records is legal under the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act says, “An investigation conducted under this section shall … not be conducted of a United States person solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States.” Well, the First Amendment protects freedom of speech, and millions of Americans are being investigated from this records request merely for engaging in speech over the telephone via Verizon.

And it’s not like being a Verizon customer is itself suspicious. Maybe if there was a Jihad Telecommunications phone company, they could justify demanding all their call records. And if the FBI has a particular suspect in mind and wants to get the records of all calls to and from him, I think they should be allowed to do so (if they get a court order authorizing that). But this has to be a no go.

J.S.K. on June 6, 2013 at 5:16 AM

Another scandal anyone?

Treason, trials and impeachment with a side of

J A I L.

TX-96 on June 6, 2013 at 6:07 AM

I didn’t realize that in all those annoying Verizon “Can you hear me now?” commercials, that guy was talking to the NSA. Now it all makes sense.

Odysseus on June 6, 2013 at 6:46 AM

Link this to the other story about government officials using hidden email aliases and you have a perfect storm of corruption: government spies on its subjects while hiding its own activities.

Just as in the AP case, it wasn’t (isn’t) just them. Here too, it’s probably not just Verizon customers.

Arguments can be made for the IRS treating political organizations politically and for the government to contend with journalists on official secrets, but this is the pure tyranny of warrant-less search and it does rise to the level of wide-ranging firing, prosecution and impeachment. Those involved had to know this was illegal, top to bottom.

For others who seem comfortable with the administration monitoring your contacts, how comfortable will you be when they go to the next step, and then the one after that? Where will you draw the line?

virgo on June 6, 2013 at 7:26 AM

Welcome to the totalitarian state.

zoyclem on June 6, 2013 at 7:28 AM

I’ve been looking for a recording of one of my phone calls. Maybe I’ll just login to the NSA account on iTunes and download it. Thanks.

LaughterJones on June 6, 2013 at 7:46 AM

There were a number of programs initiated after 9/11 which had the ability to trample on the line of legal/illegal surveillance. I applauded candidate Obama realizing that president Obama had to look at things differently.

But in light of the president’s use of the govt to harass its political opponents and illegally utilize govt data for pure political reasons, I no longer feel particularly comfortable with this regime’s ability to do what is necessary to maintain reasonable security and respect my rights as a citizen.

Program needs to end – or else much of the DC IRS leadership, EPA leadership, Holder and his entire staff as well as all of Obama’s political operatives – including his chief of staff – in the WH must resign.

Zomcon JEM on June 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Flashback to Obama 2013 Ohio St commencement speech…

mjbrooks3 on June 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM

Anybody posting here on a Verizon phone..?

d1carter on June 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Yep, and I just called my husband and said that Obama is a socialist dou***bag. Will get notified by the IRS of upcoming audit in 3, 2, 1…. Gotta go. Phone is ringing.

texasmagnolia on June 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM

I imagine there’s more to come, but as it’s being reported now- why only Verizon?
Do they have some special rate for terrorists?

verbaluce on June 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Well…. I’m glad that I don’t use my verizon phones’ voice band – I only use VoIP which they can probably still trace but not as easily.

Defenestratus on June 6, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Verb – nice!

Zomcon JEM on June 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Got a new phone and carrier today. From the expression on the face of the Verizon salesperson, they are probably wishing this information did not get out. It appears they are having some cancellations.

shar61 on June 6, 2013 at 8:36 AM

I keep a land line as back up, more or less. Verizon.
Deciding between cancelling or making the most suspicious calls possible, with words like Christian, TEA Party, conservative, God, etc., just to test whether the actual message is recorded also.

Now, about the other phone couriers. We just haven’t found out about them yet.

TerryW on June 6, 2013 at 8:40 AM

I imagine Verizon is not alone – it is only their order that was leaked. If this has not been done with every carrier I would be surprised.

Zomcon JEM on June 6, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Can we let it burn now?

Seriously, what’s it going to take?

AZCoyote on June 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM

I imagine Verizon is not alone – it is only their order that was leaked. If this has not been done with every carrier I would be surprised.
Zomcon JEM on June 6, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Safe to assume.
But also, lots of non-Verizon companies backbone off thier lines.
So more thank just Verizon customers here.

verbaluce on June 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

So I guess all those wonderful phone records they were searching didn’t include the Boston Marathon bombers or the people that were caught at the Water Treatment plant?

….mmmmm, no prolly just was of millions of CONSERVATIVES OR TEA PARTY PATRIOTS.

See if this definition fits for our Masters in D.C.?

Ge·sta·po (g-stäp, -shtä-)
n.
1. The German internal security police as organized under the Nazi regime, known for its terrorist methods directed against those suspected of treason or questionable loyalty.

2. gestapo pl. ge·sta·pos A police organization that employs terroristic methods to control a populace.

…..if we’re not just there yet, are we headed in the direction of liberty or tyranny?

PappyD61 on June 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Bashir,
Is NSA now the new N word?

mjbrooks3 on June 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Don’t forget: This affects you even if you are NOT a Verizon customer since BOTH telephone numbers to a conversation are collected. IOW, if a Verizon customer calls you or vice versa, you info is also collected even if you have AT&T.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Ho, hum. Another squirrel. The scandal-du-jour to take our attention for one more day off the four guys the pResident killed in Benghazi.

Yesterday it was Holder defying Congress. Today it’s the NSA spying on Verizon customers. What’ll it be tomorrow?

The Obama dramas are getting tiresome. When do impeachment proceedings begin?

creeper on June 6, 2013 at 9:05 AM

So the 4th Amend goes on the scrap heap with the 1st and 14th.

What’s next? Can I expect involuntary quartering of National Security Force soldiers in my house?

forest on June 6, 2013 at 9:06 AM

We were & are still being told by this President “Al Qaeda is no longer a threat”, which is obviously why Obama/this administration put that to the test by hiring Al Qaeda-backed rebels in Libya to protect Ambassador Stevens & other Americans in Benghazi FROM Al Qaeda…and we all know how THAT turned out.

We were & are still being told by this President “The War on Terror is Over”, and to prove it he was forced to call the Islamic Extremist attack by a converted Muslim Extremist Army officer on hs fellow miltary brethren preparing to deploy a case of ‘Workplace Violence’ rather than what it was — a TERRORIST ATTACK.

There is no ‘War on’ or threat from the TEA Party, Conservatives, & Jewish Groups that support Israel either; however, in the last few weeks we have learned Obama / Holder have used the full power of the U.S. Government, to include the FBI/CIA/ATF/DHS/EPA and others, to spy on, intimidate, silence, and destroy these groups.

There is no ‘War on’ or threat from a free Press, but in the last few weeks we have learned Obama has had the AP, Fox news, & other journalists/news agencies targeted, wire-tapped, their e-mails search, PHONE CHARGES manufactured to use against them, & even had their PARENTS phones tapped/e-mails searched…all to spy on, intimidate, & silence the media.

We now also know these scandals have been going on for several years and were hidden to protect the President’s re-election.

Many thought the spying on the media was just the tip of the iceberg, that even more would break soon…and it did not take long for that to happen:

+ “Obama’s NSA collecting phone records of millions daily…”
+ “Secret court order requires VERIZON to hand over ‘telephony metadata’…”
+ “WH admits, says ‘critical tool against terrorist threat’…”
— WHAT ‘Terrorist’ threat?! Obama has been telling us for the last 2 years the terrorist threat & ‘War on Terror’ is over?!
+ “Specifically TARGETED AMERICANS, not foreigners…”
+ “DHS: Laptops, phones can be searched based on HUNCHES – NO SUSPICION OF SPECIFIC ACTIVITY NEEDED”
+ “FBI ‘WANTS BACK DOOR TO ALL SOFTWARE’”…

Our government is OUT OF CONTROL, our President a TYRANT & a threat to this nation / our freedom…

easyt65 on June 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM

When do impeachment proceedings begin?

creeper on June 6, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Never. None of this can be tied to the president, because everyone who COULD tie this to Obama gets promoted.

The Rogue Tomato on June 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Why just the phone logs of Verizon users? :) are their customers so special that NSA took an interest? I feel left out, darn you, at&t :)

jimver on June 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Welcome to the totalitarian state.

zoyclem on June 6, 2013 at 7:28 AM

Forward!

visions on June 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Why just the phone logs of Verizon users? :) are their customers so special that NSA took an interest? I feel left out, darn you, at&t :)

jimver on June 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Fox News probably uses Verizon.

darwin on June 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

We are never gettin’ rid of these Fascist A-Holes…Il Duce will find a way to upend the term limit and go for another term.

Sure…I know I sound a little paranoid…

workingclass artist on June 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Patriot Act? Well, then…..BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHH. Nothing to investigate here.

tdarrington on June 6, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Welcome to the totalitarian state.

zoyclem on June 6, 2013 at 7:28 AM

Forward!

visions on June 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM

A Great Leap Forward

forest on June 6, 2013 at 9:11 AM

“We only did it this once. And it was by accident.” -Ojaggazz

Akzed on June 6, 2013 at 9:11 AM

It’s pointless- there’s no way Verizon is the only carrier under federal surveillance.

The CEO of Tracfone is a heavy contributor to Obastard. Tracfone provides most of the Obamaphones. What do you suppose the odds are that Tracfone’s information is compromised, too?

creeper on June 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Anybody posting here on a Verizon phone..?

d1carter on June 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Yep, and I just called my husband and said that Obama is a socialist dou***bag. Will get notified by the IRS of upcoming audit in 3, 2, 1…. Gotta go. Phone is ringing.

texasmagnolia on June 6, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Kindly fall neatly into pit – Obama’s Little Black Book of Community Organizing. pg. 12 aka Fascism for Dummies

Long Live Texas!

workingclass artist on June 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Never. None of this can be tied to the president, because everyone who COULD tie this to Obama gets promoted.

The Rogue Tomato on June 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM

He needs to either be prosecuted for all of these crimes, or fired for incompetence for not knowing his employees were doing it.

Since Obama is our employee, we are incompetent for not firing him.

tdarrington on June 6, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Dear Ms. Napolitano,
I know that you are reading this. If you recall, a couple of weeks ago on here, I asked you if you would kindly allow me to purchase some ammo from the DHS’ enormous stash.
I haven’t heard from you. The old ammo supply is running a bit low for my comfort level, so I would appreciate a response. Here, I’ll put in some key words, so that this gets to you faster:

nuclear, dirty bomb, attack, IRS,lardass,Big Mooch,Barack,Holder,turds,commies,disgrace,grifters,lesbians,softball.

There, that should do it. Looking forward to hearing from you re: ammo.

Have a nice day and good luck with softball season.
Your friend,
justy

justltl on June 6, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Obama’s Full-Service Politboro:

“We monitor your thoughts. So you don’t have to.”

kingsjester on June 6, 2013 at 9:15 AM

So that’s why the NSA chief suddenly resigned…
All of this was done a long time ago under a previous NSA chief. Susan Rice will make sure it doesn’t happen anymore. Trust me.

tdarrington on June 6, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Anyone, who believes that Verizon is the only carrier that has been subjected to such an order by this administration, is nuts, naive, or both.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Anyone, who believes that Verizon is the only carrier that has been subjected to such an order by this administration, is nuts, naive, or both.
Resist We Much on June 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM

As nuts and as naive as anyone in the govt or FBI who think the bad guys don’t know how to communicate off the grid.

verbaluce on June 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM

The question should be WHEN did (still does?) the practice started?

Can they (we) find evidence of such wide net of surveillance on everyday Americans’ daily lives, in the guise of National Security, before Obama’s illegal regime?

Sir Napsalot on June 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM

As nuts and as naive as anyone in the govt or FBI who think the bad guys don’t know how to communicate off the grid.

verbaluce on June 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Tru dat. Osama bin Laden communicated for years via a carrier because the US picked up his SAT phone. After that, he went completely dark.

Resist We Much on June 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM

…under an Obama presidency, Americans will be able to leave behind the era of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and ”wiretaps without warrants,” he said. (He was referring to the lingering legal fallout over reports that the National Security Agency scooped up Americans’ phone and Internet activities without court orders, ostensibly to monitor terrorist plots, in the years after the September 11 attacks.)

It’s hardly a new stance for Obama, who has made similar statements in previous campaign speeches, but mention of the issue in a stump speech, alongside more frequently discussed topics like Iraq and education, may give some clue to his priorities.

Akzed on June 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM

This site, along with others, is taking these types of actions too nonchalantly, like “Senator X proposed a bill today to amend fishing licenses”.

This is frightening. Stuff paranoid loonies used to harp about while everyone rolled their eyes in contempt – now we read it, DAILY, in the newspaper. Tin Foil futures should be skyrocketing.

The Feds don’t even bother trying to articulate reasons for getting this info now – they just say “cause we want it”. Like the SCOTUS DNA ruling recently.

And done via “secret” court order. Transparency, huh?

It ain’t just Verizon that was targeted, to be sure, but it sure turns ya off on buying their service.

Saltyron on June 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM

This crap is getting out of hand. Privacy? Laughable. I guess that’s reserved for abortions. Anything else is fair game. Probable cause has morphed into “just because”.

The irony is the Left whined ad nauseum about the Patriot Act when it was adopted, for fear of what could happen under it. And now that the Left has power, they are actually doing what they feared would happen.

Saltyron on June 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM

I imagine that Obama now has a massive database on everyone in the country, with:

- voting info, affiliations, job history, call lists, websites visited, etc.

Find the database.

faraway on June 6, 2013 at 9:43 AM

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