Dem rep: We’re “asking for more trouble” from the IRS by cutting its budget

posted at 4:46 pm on June 3, 2013 by Allahpundit

Simple logic via the Weekly Standard: If the IRS is already this corrupt at its current funding level, imagine how much more corrupt it’ll be once there’s less money to pay for oversight and ethical training of IRS employees. By the same token, presumably if we increased the agency’s budget tenfold, we’d see a sharp decline in corruption thanks to all the extra oversight and training IRS workers would be getting. I wonder if Serrano has a ballpark figure on how much extra we’d need to pay the agency to get them to not harass conservatives in the future. If there’s already a baseline of corruption there, with only the extent of it susceptible to budget volatility, then I’m thinking maybe we should cancel oversight and training altogether and just hand IRS employees the money budgeted for those departments as bribes.

By the way, this isn’t the first time Serrano’s called for more money for the IRS and it isn’t the first excuse he’s offered in order to get it. Two years ago, he made another simple point to justify boosting money for the agency — namely, the more money we appropriate for it, the more money the IRS makes for the government by chasing down tax cheats and auditing people. (“It makes little sense to cut the agency that collects revenue.”) The path to a balanced budget runs, in part it seems, through a much more powerful, aggressive tax collector. Democrats should run on that message next year. Oh, and if all of this sounds suspiciously like extortion to you — more money for the government or who knows how abusive it might get — there’s a possible reason for that. Jose Serrano was quite openly a fan of Hugo Chavez, inviting him to his home district in 2005 and mourning him publicly while the rest of Washington, including many Democrats, made the stinkface after Chavez’s death a few months ago. Go figure that he seems to believe there’s no problem, including government corruption, that can’t be solved by making government bigger and richer.


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Give them 100M for parties, you cheapskate rubes!

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Mo Money (for Gov’t) = Mo Better /dem

geojed on June 3, 2013 at 4:48 PM

sounds like a threat to me.

homesickamerican on June 3, 2013 at 4:48 PM

“Mo’ Money” Every fr6cking time ! “Mo’Money”

These folks are One Trick Ponies.

Jabberwock on June 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM

So if we shut down the IRS, would they audit everyone in Congress?

nobar on June 3, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Flat or Fair tax.

Its the only way.

Oh, and term limits too. We will not be able to solve our long-term problems until the idea of career politicians is quashed.

BobMbx on June 3, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Less money = more corruption. Got it.

I have no doubt that this principle also applies on a broader scale to the entire federal government. We simply can’t risk cutting anything.

Top. Men.

Cicero43 on June 3, 2013 at 4:51 PM

I can think of $3.5billion the IRS could go after.

VibrioCocci on June 3, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Dissolve the IRS.

It’s a Gestapo agency, full of goons, for the most part.

They fluked with their bureaucracy and are now in the sunlight.

Get rid of the mold, altogether.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2013 at 4:51 PM

So if we cut more IRS funding will they start targeting the Liberal groups applying for 501c3 status with egregious and over the top requests? If so, let’s start cutting! /s

geojed on June 3, 2013 at 4:51 PM

You sure that’s the narrative you wanna run with, Dems? After those IRS videos(funded by the American taxpayers) just leaked?

Doughboy on June 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Serrano should move to Venezuela. He’ll probably be happier there.

GarandFan on June 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Simplfy the tax code you would not need so many damn agents………… and, while you are doing that, get rid of Obamacare.

SC.Charlie on June 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Free budget cut idea: eliminate political witchhunts

blammm on June 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

So if we shut down the IRS, would they audit everyone in Congress?

nobar on June 3, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Just the Republicans. And their family and friends. And the people who donated to their campaigns. And the family and friends of the people who donated to their campaigns.

joekenha on June 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Consumer tax. Period. Make all who consume, pay.

Anything else is not fair.

They are capos of the gov’t, against you, the people, who work like slaves to sustain the arrogant/impertinent hacks.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Only the Democrats could make an argument like this.
The only way to stop this IRS abuse of power . . . is to give them more power!

TarheelBen on June 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM

I say use those 15,000 new IRS agents not for ObamaCare Health Control, but for going after all of the entitlement cheats who are bilking Medicare, Unemployment, Welfare, etc. for billions and billions of dollars.

DAT60A3 on June 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Free budget cut idea: eliminate political witchhunts

blammm on June 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

You forgot “withchhunts are only when the Rs go after the leftist thugs in DC”.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2013 at 4:54 PM

How much money has the IRS Union thugs paid to Jose Jalapeno ?

burrata on June 3, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Has anyone noticed that liberals never think that government can do with any less money…….but that YOU can?

artman1746 on June 3, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Serrano then went on to propose doubling the amount filers can donate to the Presidential Election Campaign Fund, as well as adding a box filers can check to “Audit conservatives. Twice.”

Christien on June 3, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Serrano should move to Venezuela. He’ll probably be happier there.

GarandFan on June 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Maybe we could take up a collection, I’d pitch in a few bucks to buy him a ticket. One-way, of course.

iurockhead on June 3, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I saw this live on CSpan (yeah, I’ve stooped this low) and it was all I could do to not throw something at the TV.

SteveInRTP on June 3, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Dissolve the IRS.

It’s a Gestapo agency, full of goons, for the most part.

They fluked with their bureaucracy and are now in the sunlight.

Get rid of the mold, altogether.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Indeed. The EPA is a bunch of jackboot thugs too.

SparkPlug on June 3, 2013 at 4:58 PM

He’s worried about ethics training being cut? Why not cut it? It’s not as if it was working in the first place…

Mohonri on June 3, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Speaking of live coverage of hearings…

If the mess the administration is in, along with congressional dissatisfaction has driven me to having CSpan on in the home office speaks volumes. If it’s happened to me, I hope it’s spreading. Maybe not to the 53%, but a guy can dream can’t he?

SteveInRTP on June 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Swalker.

Midas on June 3, 2013 at 5:02 PM

O/T: Chris Chritie is going full donk. We tried to warn the RINO lovers. Drudge.

SparkPlug on June 3, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Maybe not to the 53%, but a guy can dream can’t he?

SteveInRTP on June 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM

OMG,you just tempted the trolls :)
Wonder which ones will show up !!

burrata on June 3, 2013 at 5:03 PM

I think we should just raise the income tax to 100% like all the Democrats, and Hollywood, desire.

Of course, I would simultaneously decriminalize the failure to pay taxes and terminate the entire IRS budget!

I call this honor system of taxation a ‘common sense compromise’!

Freddy on June 3, 2013 at 5:03 PM

This guy has a sketchy-looking ‘stache. Audit it.

Christien on June 3, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Free budget cut idea: eliminate political witchhunts

blammm on June 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Free budget cut idea: eliminate any bill, law, expenditure, etc, that was ever proposed by a Democrat.

Midas on June 3, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Nuggets from today’s hearing

Oh boo-hoo-hoo. Werfel says he took the job coz the IRS is an agency in need.

Graves of (Georgia?) asks who approached Werfel about job and the answer is the POS’s COS, McDonough.

Graves ask why Werfel has not yet Cincinnati agents who told them to target conservative groups but the Curious George breaks in and says the DOJ is investigating and Werfel shouldn’t step on anyone’s toes (paraphrasing).

So the IRS IG is in cahoots with the DOJ and it’s rumored that Curious George once dated Sasquatch.
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Gotta hand it to the dims. They stick together. Kaptur (CA?) keeps going back to the difference between 501C3 and 501C4 and pointing out that one doesn’t require identifying donors.

And then she goes on to say IRS was doing their job and cites . . .(I am not kidding) Mother Jones Magazine.

Then she says most Americans got their refunds on time and is back to 501C4, the connection with Citizens United, and blahblahblahblahblahblah.

Between her and Serrano and the other NY bytch the dims are well-represented..
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Serrano’s making sure Werfel gets back on the reservation, fast. He says (paraphrasing) Are you SURE you want to say you don’t need or want any more money? As a friendly reminder, I’d like to reiterate there are some on this committee who would be all too happy to cut your funding to the bone.

Werfel dutifully comes back and says Oh, I didn’t meant to say I don’t need more money. In fact, the POS’s budget, which I support, gives the IRS more money and we can use that to go after crooks.

Bwa-ha-ha-ha.

wyntre on June 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM

O/T: Chris Chritie is going full donk. We tried to warn the RINO lovers. Drudge.

SparkPlug on June 3, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Paging Ann Coulter to the courtesy phone – Ann Coulter to the courtesy phone, please.

Midas on June 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Yoder to Werfel:

Would you recommend or accept a special prosecutor?

Werfel – Not now. There’s already 4 layers of investigation, FBI, DOG, Issa and today’s group (Appropriations?)

Oh great. So the fox continues to guard the hen house in this instance same as with the Rosen/AP snooping.

wyntre on June 3, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Both parties are infested with Marxists and Commies. What a shame.

BTW.. I am switching my registration to Independent. I don’t want to get audited or harrassed for my political affiliation. There are more just like me. I have no loyalty to the GOP any longer, so why run the risk of harrassment?

/Good luck, GOP. Obama found a way to finish you off, one way or the other.. You shoulda grown a pair and used them during the last 5 years.

Key West Reader on June 3, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Diaz-Balart, Florida, brings up the fact the IRS approving the POS’s brothers’ organization and even provided retroactive status.

Says Russel (IG) and Werfel are saying there has been IRS mismanagement but isn’t the IRS highly effective in the case of non-conservative groups?

Hehehehe.

wyntre on June 3, 2013 at 5:12 PM

I see..reward bullies with more of your lunch money.

Yeah, that makes sense, in a Liberal Coward kind of way…

ProfShadow on June 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Most dangerous creature in this country is the bored bureaucrat.

kurtzz3 on June 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM

BTW, about the brother:

Obama Brother In Bed W/ TERRORISTS Granted TAX-EXEMPT IRS STATUS

It has been learned that the relationship between President Barack Obama’s half-brother Malik Obama and Sudan’s President Omar Al-Bashir is much closer than previously thought. Malik is the Executive Secretary of the Islamic Da’wa Organization (IDO) as reported by all major Saudi press, including Okaz.

How significant is this?

Very significant. The IDO has been created by the Sudanese Government, which is considered by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist state. This places Malik Obama in bed with terrorists and working as an official with a terrorist state

wyntre on June 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Jose Serrano: Turn down.

Jose Feliciano: Turn up.

Hey, sounds much better.

Marcola on June 3, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Even I under estimate the insanity of these people.

Unbelievable!

petunia on June 3, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Very significant. The IDO has been created by the Sudanese Government, which is considered by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist state. This places Malik Obama in bed with terrorists and working as an official with a terrorist state

wyntre on June 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM

So now, USA is a State sponser of islamic terrorism ?
I suggest another peace prize for Hussein…… and his brother !!

burrata on June 3, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Consumer tax. Period. Make all who consume, pay.

Anything else is not fair.

They are capos of the gov’t, against you, the people, who work like slaves to sustain the arrogant/impertinent hacks.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM

But THAT would mean higher prices for criminals and illegals!

They game the IRS with cash jobs and you want to ruin it for them?

IlikedAUH2O on June 3, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Jose Serrano was quite openly a fan of Hugo Chavez

He’s also a big fan of Fidel Castro.

RadClown on June 3, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Shut down the IRS.

Ask Americans to contribute what they want to the US Treasury.

Find out just what the people are willing to pay and live with that.

ajacksonian on June 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM

I am switching my registration to Independent. I don’t want to get audited or harrassed for my political affiliation. There are more just like me. I have no loyalty to the GOP any longer, so why run the risk of harrassment?

/Good luck, GOP. Obama found a way to finish you off, one way or the other.. You shoulda grown a pair and used them during the last 5 years.

Key West Reader on June 3, 2013 at 5:10 PM

That’s not going to help you, you know.
If you aren’t a Dem, then to them, you are an enemy.

Consumer tax. Period. Make all who consume, pay.

Anything else is not fair.

They are capos of the gov’t, against you, the people, who work like slaves to sustain the arrogant/impertinent hacks.

Schadenfreude on June 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM

I am honestly feeling this is the best solution.
Flat tax still forces you to TELL the govt how much you make, which is NONE of their damned business.
The US govt should not have the authority to terrorize you & jail you & steal your stuff for nonpayment of taxes, IMO.
If you are buying goods, then that is where you need a tax.
I really think there would be a vast improvement in the system if this were to happen.

Badger40 on June 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM

IRS = the strong arm of the socialists

burserker on June 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Is Senor Jose even a legal American citizen (not that it matters to the Dimosh!its?

hip shot on June 3, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Jose Serrano was quite openly a fan of Hugo Chavez, inviting him to his home district in 2005 and mourning him publicly…

And we’re suppose to listen to this clown’s advise concerning the IRS? Right.

By the way, has anyone found that photo of Nancy Pelosi visiting with Assad in Syria during the Bush administration?

Zorro on June 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Found it.

Just a reminder, those liberal Democrats who support the IRS also support our enemies.

Zorro on June 3, 2013 at 5:42 PM

If we cut IRS’s budget, they can’t dedicate as many resources toward terrorizing innocent, law-abiding Americans who disagree with their political or religious views. And they can’t throw all those lavish dance parties on our dime. Duh. Of course liberals want to give them more of our money to carry on as per normal.

It was working so well until some squealer had to go and screw up the plan.

Philly on June 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I can think of $3.5billion the IRS could go after.

VibrioCocci on June 3, 2013 at 4:51 PM

That needs to go viral. Again. There would appear to be no solution to this other than to abolish the IRS and implement a fair tax. Put it to a vote to the People and abide by their decision. A true test if we are to remain a representative Republic.

Key West Reader on June 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Most dangerous creature in this country is the bored bureaucrat.

kurtzz3 on June 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM

I respectfully disagree. The most dangerous creature in this country is a Marxist “Constitutional Scholar” that was re-elected solely through the blatant and egregious abuse of power.

Seriously.

Key West Reader on June 3, 2013 at 5:46 PM

what an idiot

cmsinaz on June 3, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Has anyone noticed that liberals never think that government can do with any less money…….but that YOU can?

artman1746 on June 3, 2013 at 4:56 PM

THIS

cmsinaz on June 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Nice paycheck you have there…shame if something were to…errr…happen to it…

bigbeachbird on June 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM

It’s a protection racket.

The Democrat Party is a criminal conspiracy.

(In honor of Issa’s blunt truthfulness, I figured I would call it what it is, and the responsible party what it is.)

novaculus on June 3, 2013 at 5:57 PM

The most dangerous creature in this country is a Marxist “Constitutional Scholar” that was re-elected solely through the blatant and egregious abuse of power.

Seriously.

Key West Reader on June 3, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Very seriously.

Good to see you around, kiddo.

novaculus on June 3, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Fair Tax, Fair Tax, Fair Tax. (Abolishing and replacing the Income Tax and the IRS)

For three simple and effective reasons:

1: With every purchase, every person would be reminded via the tax line-item on their receipt, exactly how much the government is costing them. Yes, this would be coming out of a greater take-home amount, but unlike now, they would see all the take-home pay as “their” money, and realize just how much the government has been taking from them.

2: The revenue presently lost in the “underground” economy will be largely recovered, as even illegally-gotten gains will be taxed when spent.

3: The revenue that would flow to the government under this plan would be dependent on a thriving, prosperous economy, and that would be an incentive for government to only pursue policies that promote business and economic growth.

LooseCannon on June 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Let’s take that entire exempt-organizations department lay them off, and outsource the paperwork to big accounting firms on a contract bid. Five or six zones, contracts to run three years. No management participation from anyone in Treasury.

Call it a pilot program.

slickwillie2001 on June 3, 2013 at 6:31 PM

“The IRS simply cannot sustain itself with this overall funding level.”

Well now, finally some good news.

Oldnuke on June 3, 2013 at 6:31 PM

The IRS has as much as admitted that they are part of the Democrat team, so of course the Democrat politicians want as much government funding for their troops as possible.

RJL on June 3, 2013 at 6:40 PM

100% tax rate wouldn’t be enough for the Progressive filth in the Ruling class (of either party)!!!!

Washington D.C. and our overlords get more despicable by the day.

PappyD61 on June 3, 2013 at 7:39 PM

This guy’s a morons’ moron.

Thicklugdonkey on June 3, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Sex munce ago I couldn’t spill IRS and now I r wun

Herb on June 3, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Oh, and if all of this sounds suspiciously like extortion to you — more money for the government or who knows how abusive it might get — there’s a possible reason for that.

It does. It’s astonishing. It also should go on the list of the greatest blame-swaps ever. All this corruption? Your fault.

Axe on June 3, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Another nearly-retarded affirmative action Democrat … the consistent lack of intellect in that party is certainly remarkable. That he is also a Chavista raises it from sad to funny.

Jaibones on June 3, 2013 at 10:24 PM

…put a sock in his mouth!

KOOLAID2 on June 3, 2013 at 10:50 PM

By the way, this isn’t the first time Serrano’s called for more money for the IRS and it isn’t the first excuse he’s offered in order to get it. Two years ago, he made another simple point to justify boosting money for the agency — namely, the more money we appropriate for it, the more money the IRS makes for the government by chasing down tax cheats and auditing people. (“It makes little sense to cut the agency that collects revenue.”)

And the first place they should start chasing down tax cheats is apparently at the White House:

http://tinyurl.com/ms9plda

As President Obama has called for all Americans to pay their fair share in taxes, Investor’s Business Daily columnist Andrew Malcolm notes that the White House staff owes a pretty hefty amount of back taxes to Uncle Sam:

“A new report just out from the Internal Revenue Service reveals that 36 of President Obama’s executive office staff owe the country $833,970 in back taxes. These people working for [Obama] apparently haven’t paid any share, let alone their fair share.”

How soon the Liberals forget…

UPNorthWolf on June 3, 2013 at 11:13 PM

I guess we could abolish the IRS ….. but then they’d probably “go postal” on us.

listens2glenn on June 3, 2013 at 11:34 PM

First reduce their budget by a minimum of what they spent on crap!
Then cut each unit of the IRS by the same!
Then cut their salary amounts.
Next, get rid of Unions!

Delsa on June 4, 2013 at 1:43 PM