New red-state Dem ad: No gun-grabbing New York City mayor’s going to tell me what to do

posted at 11:21 am on May 31, 2013 by Allahpundit

Clever but risky. Clever because, in a state as red as Arkansas, he’s better off running against Mike Bloomberg than against his Republican opponent. Bloomy’s anti-gun group is spending huge sums to punish him for voting no on background checks and will probably continue to do so (unless, perhaps, Obama and Harry Reid see the Senate slipping away and beg him to stop), so Pryor can run with this “big-city liberals trying to push us around” meme for a good long while. It’s risky, though: His only chance of winning next year is if Arkansas’s black Democrats turn out in force, and running against Obama’s signature second-term policy initiative — he even mentions O by name in the ad — is … not the best way to make that happen. And Bloomy’s group knows it, per the second vid below. Their spokesman told Politico a few days ago that they’re aiming their ads in Arkansas explicitly at black voters; if the ads achieve their purpose by convincing some of those voters to stay home, Pryor’s sunk, which means Bloomy’s group is effectively working to elect a Republican. Sweet!

Why would they do that, though? They’ve concluded, I guess, that in order to win the war they have to lose a few battles. If Pryor goes down this year, it’s a warning to future red-state Democrats that defying the gun-control lobby is just as potentially dangerous to them as defying the NRA. If Bloomberg can make the electoral calculus on gun votes neutral-ish then centrist Dems like Pryor will be more likely to vote with the party in the future. That message will be especially potent if southern Democrats like Mary Landrieu and Kay Hagan hold on to win in Louisiana and North Carolina, respectively, despite both voting yes on background checks. Seeing them all go down is fine, since it would mean pro-gun Republican incumbents in all three seats going forward; seeing Pryor win would also be tolerable, since the cost to the GOP in not gaining an extra Senate seat is somewhat offset by the lesson that it’s still in both parties’ interest to oppose gun control in red states. Seeing Pryor lose and the other two win, though, would be bad, especially if guns become a major issue in all three races. Finding strong Republican recruits to run is the first order of business to head off that scenario. It’s comforting to see that that’s starting to happen.

Exit question: Why would Pryor mention Obama by name here when his big political problem with local Democrats is being seen as a thorn in Obama’s side on guns? Does he really think he’s going to make up the difference in Democratic votes lost by getting Obama-hating conservatives to cross over?



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I’m sure he’ll vote however obama, pelosi and reid will tell him to.

acyl72 on May 31, 2013 at 11:25 AM

If Bloomberg’s strategy is to sacrifice Pryor in order to get Red State Democrats to vote the right way he is on a fools errand. Democrats get elected in Red States by getting crossover Republicans to vote for them and not by “retaining” the Democratic base. The most likely result of a “successful” Bloomberg strategy is retirement not switching a vote on gun control.

jerryofva on May 31, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Pryor is essentially doomed no matter what he does. And Bloomberg is just wasting his cash (not that he really worries about that) Arkansas has shifted drastically red over the last 10 years and once a conservative gets a toe hold in that district it will likely stay that way, just like the rest of the state has gone lately.

Bloomberg is simply throwing money at people who cross him and not giving the consequences too much thought and that is becoming a pattern for him.

Brad on May 31, 2013 at 11:31 AM

I think he doomed no matter what, but what he means to say is “until I am safely reelected . . .”

mwbri on May 31, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Also just a heads up, but the woman in the Bloomberg Video is an Arkansas Democratic Party Officer… So a state party leader is actively working to torpedo a national senate seat.

*mind blown*

Brad on May 31, 2013 at 11:35 AM

OT- LOL

MontanaMmmm on May 31, 2013 at 11:35 AM

If Bloomberg’s strategy is to sacrifice Pryor in order to get Red State Democrats to vote the right way he is on a fools errand. Democrats get elected in Red States by getting crossover Republicans to vote for them and not by “retaining” the Democratic base. The most likely result of a “successful” Bloomberg strategy is retirement not switching a vote on gun control.

jerryofva on May 31, 2013 at 11:28 AM

That’s it in a nutshell.

Bloomberg’s tactic may work in “sending a message” that you can’t be a Democrat and not vote for gun control. But if it does, it will just reduce the number of Democrats in the Senate.

Kind of a win-win situation. Either Democrats lose seats in Congress, or the gun-control-freaks learn that they can’t force every Democrat to toe the line.

It all goes back to the basic problem: the northeast liberals think they can pressure rural, southern, and western states into jumping aboard the gun control train. They just don’t understand that people outside of their narrow group don’t consider guns to be a bad thing.

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 31, 2013 at 11:35 AM

The second ad was trying to increase the black vote? Bloomy needs a new ad team.

VegasRick on May 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Please don’t fall for this tired routine, Arkansas voters. The red state Dems(not to mention several RINOs) do this every time. They pretend to be hardcore conservatives until they’re safely reelected. That strategery seems to be backfiring in House races since those representatives have to answer to voters every 2 years, but it’s becoming almost comical in the Senate how quickly they’ll stab us in the back once they’ve secured another 6-year term.

Doughboy on May 31, 2013 at 11:37 AM

“Angela” your friend gets killed and you blame the system? Really? Your friend was gunned down by somebody who legally owned that firearm? Or was it somebody who was not exercising their Second Amendment rights?

Seriously, this is what is so dishonest about Bloomberg and his thuggish group. Show me where background checks would have prevented any of the gun atrocities that keep getting thrown around. They are manipulating the facts for no other reason than curtailment of honest Americans’ liberties. For that all I can say to “Angela” is that you are a dirty partisan whore. Shame on you.

Happy Nomad on May 31, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Arkansas realized how corrupt and deceitful the Democrats were when they had Bill Clinton as governor. That’s why they have shifted solidly Republican.

kirkill on May 31, 2013 at 11:42 AM

The second ad was trying to increase the black vote? Bloomy needs a new ad team.

VegasRick on May 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I see the idea. Enrage blacks by introducing “Angela” in such a way that suggests Pryor is okay with blacks being killed. In short, on the surface the ad is mild (the partisan whore is only disappointed in Pryor’s vote) but the reality is that this is a racist ad.

Happy Nomad on May 31, 2013 at 11:43 AM

A Red State Dem (used to be called Blue Dogs) is still a Dem.

thebrokenrattle on May 31, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Also just a heads up, but the woman in the Bloomberg Video is an Arkansas Democratic Party Officer… So a state party leader is actively working to torpedo a national senate seat.

*mind blown*

Brad on May 31, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Angela Bradford-Barnes: Chief Financial Officer Democratic Party of Arkansas
February 2007 – September 2012 (5 years 8 months)

aquaviva on May 31, 2013 at 11:46 AM

he second ad was trying to increase the black vote? Bloomy needs a new ad team.

VegasRick on May 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM

racially profiled ads, how original.

aceinstall on May 31, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Yeah right you won’t. You’d sit naked on a railroad spike and spin around singing “I wish I was an Oscar Meier weiner” if Obama deemed you should do so.

People fooled = 0.

MelonCollie on May 31, 2013 at 11:46 AM

I see the idea. Enrage blacks by introducing “Angela” in such a way that suggests Pryor is okay with blacks being killed. In short, on the surface the ad is mild (the partisan whore is only disappointed in Pryor’s vote) but the reality is that this is a racist ad.

Happy Nomad on May 31, 2013 at 11:43 AM

I’m going to go look and see who it was that kilt her friend.

VegasRick on May 31, 2013 at 11:46 AM

I just was able to fifty rounds of 38 ACP ammo for around $30. The last time I bought a box it was $18.

SC.Charlie on May 31, 2013 at 11:54 AM

This BTW is “Angela’s Dear Friend” who was killed. Arkansas Dem Party Chair Bill Gwatney.

Via Wikipedia:

On August 13, 2008, Gwatney was fatally wounded when a man, identified in news reports as Timothy Dale Johnson entered Democratic Party headquarters in Little Rock, Arkansas and shot Gwatney three times. Gwatney was taken to a hospital, but died at 3:59 pm CDT.

The gunman had said he wanted to speak with Gwatney about volunteering, but sidestepped his assistant when she said he was busy. After the shooting, the gunman fled the scene in his truck and led police on a 30-mile (48 km) chase out of Little Rock. Johnson was fatally shot by police after a PIT maneuver forced him off the road into a field near Sheridan. No motive was discovered, except Johnson quitting his job at a Target retail store earlier that day.

I don’t see anything in the description that would suggest that tougher background checks would have helped her “dear innocent friend” who happened to be the state’s Dem leader.

Happy Nomad on May 31, 2013 at 11:57 AM

I look forward when Mike Murphy goes on Morning Joe complain’ about all these backward Blues Dogs don’t get how backwards theys ares.

/snark

Lance Murdock on May 31, 2013 at 11:59 AM

1) Dems spending money, time and effort fighting other Dems. Can’t be too bad…
2) Dem foundation cracking here – blacks answering the dog whistle of a racist ad from out of state, b/c gun control is more important than race, for now. Eventually, the coalition that is the current Dem party will turn on itself (e.g., blacks being told to vote against school choice so teacher unions can still monetarily support the Dems). This is an example of such…

DublOh7 on May 31, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I don’t see anything in the description that would suggest that tougher background checks would have helped her “dear innocent friend” who happened to be the state’s Dem leader.

Happy Nomad on May 31, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Shot 3 times. If gwatney had a gun he might have been able to defend himself.

VegasRick on May 31, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Just heard Bloomberg “bravely” talk about moving forward despite the ricin letter threat (as if he opens his own mail). He said there are appropriate to express ones views and others that are inappropriate, illegal, or disgraceful.

Well Mr. Mayor, I would suggest “Angela” is clearly disgraceful because it is nothing but trying to stoke racial hatred.

Happy Nomad on May 31, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Seeing Pryor lose and the other two win, though, would be bad, especially if guns become a major issue in all three races.

I love AllahPundit’s twisted (as somebody put it a couple days ago) analyses. However, while fun, this is too twisted. Seeing Pryor lose is a good thing, assuming the Republican who replaces him is more conservative in general and is also pro gun rights. And that is regardless of what happens in other races. More conservative votes is always better.

Fenris on May 31, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Shot 3 times. If gwatney had a gun he might have been able to defend himself.

VegasRick on May 31, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Maybe Gwatney couldn’t pass a background check. He was, after all, a professional politician and a Democrat!

Seriously though, I know “Angela” saw the shooting but how do you go from the horror of that to the idea to start gun-grabbing from the law abiding innocents is the right thing to do? Would harsher background checks have kept a gun out of the hands of Timothy Johnson? “Angela” suggests it would but the facts don’t bear out that claim. She is a liar.

Happy Nomad on May 31, 2013 at 12:10 PM

If “no tells him what to do” and he “listens to Arkansas”, why is he still a Democrat?

Tater Salad on May 31, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Killary’s poll numbers plummeting…

What difference does it make!! seems to have made a difference in the minds of the american public.

workingclass artist on May 31, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Seriously though, I know “Angela” saw the shooting but how do you go from the horror of that to the idea to start gun-grabbing from the law abiding innocents is the right thing to do?

Happy Nomad on May 31, 2013 at 12:10 PM

You did see that she was a Democrat, did you not?

Odysseus on May 31, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Pryor raised the majority of his funding in NYC.

So yes New York tells him what to do.

tetriskid on May 31, 2013 at 12:53 PM

I truly don’t get the whole meme of “red state Democrats.” Isn’t that an oxymoron? why would conservative voters ever elect a Democrat?

Is it because the Democrat had previously been elected by a majority Democrat electorate and then the electorate swung conservative (read, Republican) and they just kept re-electing the Democrat because he promised to be more red?

I guess there are levels of sophistication here that this “good ol’ boy” ain’t seein’

How about this: Red states run and then elect Republican/Conservatives rather than Democrats who will never fairly represent the voters once they are elected?

E9RET on May 31, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Who was it that decided Conservative states would be labeled “Red” while the Commie states get labeled
“Blue”?

Cleombrotus on May 31, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Who was it that decided Conservative states would be labeled “Red” while the Commie states get labeled
“Blue”?

Cleombrotus on May 31, 2013 at 1:15 PM

I distinctly recall the election map of 1980 being called “Lake Reagan” on air. It probably wasn’t standardized at first. But, ya, I suspect somebody decided the commie association was bad for the Democrats and decided to switch it up.

Fenris on May 31, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Who was it that decided Conservative states would be labeled “Red” while the Commie states get labeled
“Blue”?

Cleombrotus on May 31, 2013 at 1:15 PM

I distinctly recall the election map of 1980 being called “Lake Reagan” on air. It probably wasn’t standardized at first. But, ya, I suspect somebody decided the commie association was bad for the Democrats and decided to switch it up.

Fenris on May 31, 2013 at 1:19 PM

It was NBC News, specifically Tom Brokaw and John Chancellor, in the 1992 Presidential race. While piously proclaiming their “impartiality”, they “suggested” the change to “alert people to the dangerous GOP tendency to be ‘out of the mainstream’ of political thought”.

Of course, “progressives” have been proudly “Red” for decades, going back to the French Revolution, the Reds and Whites in Russia, “Red Front!” everywhere between the wars, and so on. But their facilitators in the MSM were a bit more savvy about peoples’ perceptions of colors than their “enlightened thought leaders” on the left.

And of course, it does go with the whole “redneck” meme’. You know, inbred, unwashed, droolin’, knuckle-draggin’, racist, illiterate hicks clingin’ to theyer guns an’Bibbles, who ain’t never a-seen Madame Butterfly, nohow.

I have my own meme’. It’s called “MSM-FYATHYRIO”.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 31, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Who was it that decided Conservative states would be labeled “Red” while the Commie states get labeled
“Blue”?

Cleombrotus on May 31, 2013 at 1:15 PM

I distinctly recall the election map of 1980 being called “Lake Reagan” on air. It probably wasn’t standardized at first. But, ya, I suspect somebody decided the commie association was bad for the Democrats and decided to switch it up.

Fenris on May 31, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Back when the big networks were all we had, they were flipping back and forth every four years or so. You can look back at old maps on their websites from the early nineties using archives and see the red-dem and blue-rep maps. Some time in the late nineties ‘they’ decided to freeze the colors. Convenient, yes.

It makes no sense really, because red is the accepted color of international socialism, ie Red China, Red Army, etc.

slickwillie2001 on May 31, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Dang. I haven’t seen a picture of Pryor in awhile. He got old.

besser tot als rot on May 31, 2013 at 1:46 PM

eon on May 31, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Never could stomach Brokaw.

Cleombrotus on May 31, 2013 at 1:57 PM

This water bottom slug should never be able to win in a Red State- but there are low information dweebs that have no clue on the issues at hand…just watch Watters World from last night episode on the BOR….

hawkman on May 31, 2013 at 2:06 PM

They always say this when running and then when told by their superiors to BOGU… they BOGU.

ajacksonian on May 31, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Here’s the strategy the GOP needs to employ when running against Pryor & all other senate Dems in red states: Pryor may very well be against gun control, but he votes for & supports Harry Reid as senate majority leader & Obama as president. What does that mean? It means that whatever his views are, they can get cancelled by those two in power, so his views are actually quite irrelevant.

Reid decides what & how things are voted on in the senate. Until that changes, Pryor’s feelings on the second amendment don’t really mean a whole lot as he will not control the agenda but yet supports those that do.

Reno232 on May 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Their spokesman told Politico a few days ago that they’re aiming their ads in Arkansas explicitly at black voters

Wait. Isn’t that … profiling?

nukemhill on May 31, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Finding strong Republican recruits to run is the first order of business to head off that scenario. It’s comforting to see that that’s starting to happen.

So who is running against Pryor in Arkansas? The link AP gave refers to the NC Senate race against Kagan.

Steve Z on May 31, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Whatever…I hope the efort to weaken Mark, son of David, Pryor works. In 2010, the left and their union goons poured over $10 million into a primary challenger’s (Halter) race against Blanche Lincoln effectively paving he way for John Boozman (R) to win in the general. It will be much harder to defeat Mark Pryor given his and his Father’s history in Arkansas. But, the nanny state mayor’s efforts along with Pryor’s votes FOR obamacare and his role in getting CPSIA passed will certainly help defeat Pryor next year…

Hopefully, former State Treasure Shofner’s corruption and bribery trial will still be going on and have a negative effect on Pryor…

Gohawgs on May 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM

It makes no sense really, because red is the accepted color of international socialism, ie Red China, Red Army, etc.

slickwillie2001 on May 31, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Makes no sense to people who believe in calling a Red a Red.

Makes a lot of sense to people who know that the majority of Americans still don’t like Socialism as a political entity, even if they can be persuaded to accept socialism in small doses or disguised legislation.

AesopFan on May 31, 2013 at 11:59 PM

It’s nice to see democrats trying to kill each other. Bloomberg is clearly bored if his current job leaves him time to meddle in the elections of other states.

Shorty Bloomberg should go down there and hold a big rally. He could wear a cowboy hat. I am sure there would be a big turn-out, given his near-universal popularity.

/sarc

virgo on June 1, 2013 at 12:36 AM