Former IRS Commissioner visited WH more than twice as often as Eric Holder

posted at 10:01 am on May 30, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

If you put together all of the White House visits by Cabinet members Eric Holder, Kathleen Sebelius, and Hillary Clinton, you might approach the number accumulated by a non-Cabinet official from an agency in the news lately.  Douglas Shulman visited the White House far more often during the Obama administration than the closest members of Barack Obama’s own team, with perhaps six times as many visits as Energy Secretary Stephen Chu and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood:

Publicly released records show that embattled former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman visited the White House at least 157 times during the Obama administration, more recorded visits than even the most trusted members of the president’s Cabinet. …

An analysis by The Daily Caller of the White House’s public “visitor access records” showed that every current and former member of President Obama’s Cabinet would have had to rack up at least 60 more public visits to the president’s home to catch up with “Douglas Shulman.”

The visitor logs do not give a complete picture of White House access. Some high-level officials get cleared for access and do not have to sign in during visits. A Washington Post database of visitor log records cautions, “The log may include some scheduled visits that did not take place and exclude visits by members of Congress, top officials and others who are not required to sign in at security gates.”

The White House press office declined to comment on which visits by high-ranking officials do and do not get recorded in the visitor log, but it is probable that the vast majority of visits by major cabinet members do not end up in the public record.

Nevertheless, many visits by current and former cabinet members are in the logs, and the record depicts an IRS chief uniquely at home in the White House.

Why is this important?  Shulman ran the IRS when the targeting and harassing of conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status began in March 2010 and extended through mid-2012.  Shulman testified twice before Congress in March 2012 that no targeting was taking place.  After the scandal broke, Shulman refused to take responsibility for it in Congressional testimony this week and claimed that no White House coordination took place in this effort.  The only White House visit Shulman could recall in detail was taking his kids to the Easter egg roll.

Clearly, Shulman was doing more than hunting eggs at the White House.  His successor, Steven Miller, barely has enough visits to get into double digits despite being on the job a year.  The Daily Caller’s chart shows so many visits by Shulman that it’s a wonder they weren’t charging him rent.  Spreading out 157 visits over less than four years — roughly 40 months — puts Shulman in the White House almost once a week from Barack Obama’s inauguration to Shulman’s exit in May 2012.

The massive number of visits raises serious questions about Shulman’s activities in the White House. As IRS commissioner, he reported to Tim Geithner at Treasury, not anyone in the West Wing. Shulman, in fact, had more than three times as many visits to the White House as his nominal boss.  What was the West Wing team telling Shulman?  What was Shulman telling the West Wing team on his weekly visits?  Looks like it will take a few more subpoenas to find out.


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Or keeping him busy. That’s an option, too. The WH likes squirrels.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Why speculate? Let’s get Shulman under hypnosis and see if we can get those suppressed memories of his visits to the WH back.

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 10:57 AM

You have the seed of a reasonable question, though I would ask if Shulman was colluding with the WH, why would he go to the WH so often?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Hubris mixed with stupidity: the hallmark of the Obama White House.

Quite frankly, I believe they thought that targeting the Tea Party and other conservative groups was perfectly legal and proper. They didn’t go out of their way to hide it because they didn’t think they were doing anything wrong.

Same with Holder and the wiretaps.

They view everything through a political partisan lens and I imagine the most common reaction in the White House is, “c’mon, what’s the BIG DEAL about all of this?”

Now that there is a scandal they have to say all of the right things, “oh we would never do anything like THAT; oh that is so terrible, we’re outraged …” etc. etc. while inside they’re all saying “get over it already, who gives a cr*p.”

PackerBronco on May 30, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Consider these numbers in the light of evidence that the REB rarely meets with members of his cabinet:

Obama Didn’t Meet With Half-Dozen Cabinet Members in First Two Years (of First Term)

Something special and unique had to be going on with Shulman.

The only White House visit Shulman could recall in detail was taking his kids to the Easter egg roll.

Wouldn’t any sane jury consider this perjury?

slickwillie2001 on May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Find out who was there from the campaign. Connect the dots people! Is anyone going to really investigate the campaign fraud?

All the scandals are connected by the campaign’s need to silence the President’s competition.

petunia on May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Conservative, thy name is Juden.

bloviator on May 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Why would Comrade O consider Schulman an enemy, much less one he had to talk to face-to-face every week?

[farsighted on May 30, 2013 at 10:49 AM]

It’s an adage. Enemy is just a euphemism for someone you don’t have trust in, or less trust in than those you do trust.

You’re the second person to imply going to the WH is equal meeting with Obama, personally. Why do people think going to the WH must mean Obama saying more than “Hello!” in the hallway to people who go the WH, much less seeing him at all?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

nonpartisan on May 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM

If your parents knew in advance that you would be their product of conception, would they have kept you?

Liam on May 30, 2013 at 10:13 AM

They would have never done the deed in the first place.

arnold ziffel on May 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Eureka! That explains why he contributed to Democrats and not Republicans. He needed to pay ‘protection money’ to the Democrats when, for example in 2004, the Republicans controlled the White House, both chambers of Congress, and there was a majority of conservatives on the Supreme Court.

Gotcha.

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Yeah but he knew what was coming and wanted to be with the cool guys. :)

arnold ziffel on May 30, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Who else was in on the meetings? Let’s just do what they do, we’ll assume they’re all guilty of campaign coordination against the tea party and force them to produce evidence they weren’t.

bflat879 on May 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM

You have the seed of a reasonable question, though I would ask if Shulman was colluding with the WH, why would he go to the WH so often?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Maybe they did not think they were doing anything wrong, and/or that no one would ever suspect they were.

Maybe they did not think anyone would ever notice all of those visits, or connect the dots to any possible wrong doing.

Maybe they thought that if worse came to worse they could always invoke Executive Privilege.

Maybe they were arrogant, careless, and filled with hubris.

Maybe all of the above.

Things like this would never see the light of day in Chicago, where the Chicago Way is a way of life.

farsighted on May 30, 2013 at 11:08 AM

she only goes down if the REB goes down. slickwillie2001 on May 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Looks like another Clinton-Monica comparison… ;)

dentarthurdent on May 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Not for nothing, but when I’m President, *all* visitors will sign the log. *All*. No exceptions. *None*. And the logs will be public.

Midas on May 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM

If I were Doug Shulman I wouldn’t be taking any quiet walks in Fort Marcy Park alone.

JimK on May 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM

They didn’t go out of their way to hide it because they didn’t think they were doing anything wrong.

And remember always, this is an administration supported by a media that gives it a pass on everything. Take it all in all, Obama and his myrmidons think they are bulletproof. Even now, who is to say otherwise?

UnrepentantCurmudgeon on May 30, 2013 at 11:14 AM

You’re the second person to imply going to the WH is equal meeting with Obama, personally. Why do people think going to the WH must mean Obama saying more than “Hello!” in the hallway to people who go the WH, much less seeing him at all?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Depends on who the person is combined with the totality of the circumstances where such visits might be suspicious.

Such as…oh I don’t know…a powerful branch of the federal government attacking it’s own citizens purely because of their political beliefs, and the guy running that branch being the visitor.

So the question isn’t whether or not Shulman said hello to Bark as they passed in the hallway, the question is why the IRS Commissioner would NEED to make 157 visits to the White House when his own boss was there a 1/3 of that total.

Bishop on May 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

hunting eggs” is code speak for hunting down and crushing anyone who opposes this admin.
neyney on May 30, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Another slant – in computer software parlance, “easter eggs” are hidden code that does something different from the primary software functions – like the simple flight simulator that used to be hidden in MS Excel many years ago. You typically have to hit a certain sequence of key strokes to open it.

Given THAT definition of “easter eggs” – I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this is all code for the special information packets about conservative orgs and donors that Shulman likely brought to the WH on a weekly basis.

How about some research to identify links between Shulman’s WH visits and subsequent press releases and ads about Romney’s and other Republican’s taxes and such?

dentarthurdent on May 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Maybe the guy fills in when reggie is gone. Could just be a love thing.

dirtseller on May 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM

You’re the second person to imply going to the WH is equal meeting with Obama, personally. Why do people think going to the WH must mean Obama saying more than “Hello!” in the hallway to people who go the WH, much less seeing him at all?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

It doesn’t matter other than in a purely legal sense.

When someone is meeting any of “All Of the President’s Men and Women” weekly in the White House over a period of years, they are for all intents and purposes meeting with the President. These people represent him and they speak for him.

Even if the President does not know what his people in the White House are up to, he is responsible for them and for everything that happens in the White House.

The first excuse was the federal government is so big there is no way to know everything it is up to. But that excuse falls apart when the head of the bureaucratic section guilty of wrong doing is visiting the White House weekly during the period of interest.

So what’s the excuse now? That the White House is so big and there are so many people there that Comrade O could never know what all of his own hand picked people who work there are up to, including the people meeting weekly with the guy running the department responsible for wrong doing?

That excuse is so flimsy the only way it can be true if if The One is little different from Chauncey Gardiner. How can he be President Gutsy, Bin Laden Slayer and Destroyer of Al Qaeda, and at the same time President Chauncey Gardiner, the Clueless and Incompetent?

farsighted on May 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM

You’re the second person to imply going to the WH is equal meeting with Obama, personally. Why do people think going to the WH must mean Obama saying more than “Hello!” in the hallway to people who go the WH, much less seeing him at all?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

He wouldn’t have to see Obama personally every time – especially since Obama was likely out on the golf course for many of those visits.
You don’t think everyone else in the WH and the campaign would have already had their marching orders, and arrangements for who is providing what kind of info?

dentarthurdent on May 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM

You’re the second person to imply going to the WH is equal meeting with Obama, personally. Why do people think going to the WH must mean Obama saying more than “Hello!” in the hallway to people who go the WH, much less seeing him at all?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Convenient amnesia does not make one look innocent. If he had nothing to hide wouldn’t he have testified that he wasn’t there to meet with the president? Or that he just said “Hello” in the hallway? He only remembered the Easter Egg roll? Really? Meeting with the president is that unmemorable? If he hadn’t met with the president all those times wouldn’t he have said so? Or was he just lying?

hopeful on May 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

[NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 10:57 AM]

I agree with you Schulman ought to be put through more intense interrogation.

As for speculating, I was just offering an alternative conjecture to the speculation Ed had implied in his post.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM

So it was Shulman that was playing the wannabe Goebbels. All along I thought that was Holder’s side of the street. Guess Eric’s more of an Albert Speer. All the president’s men. Out of the Eagle’s Nest and under the bus.

onomo on May 30, 2013 at 11:29 AM

[farsighted on May 30, 2013 at 11:08 AM]

I should keep in mind the Chicago Way attitude more. It just bothers me, though, that they weren’t so Chicago Way on many other things, with all the Starbucks meetings, and the sockpuppet e-mail accounts.

You might be right in this case, farsighted. Listening to the Nixon tapes, it does sound like the IRS has been used frequently enough that people in the WH might have thought this was just standard politics and no big deal.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:34 AM

You’re the second person to imply going to the WH is equal meeting with Obama, personally. Why do people think going to the WH must mean Obama saying more than “Hello!” in the hallway to people who go the WH, much less seeing him at all?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Depends on who the person is combined with the totality of the circumstances where such visits might be suspicious.

Such as…oh I don’t know…a powerful branch of the federal government attacking it’s own citizens purely because of their political beliefs, and the guy running that branch being the visitor.

So the question isn’t whether or not Shulman said hello to Bark as they passed in the hallway, the question is why the IRS Commissioner would NEED to make 157 visits to the White House when his own boss was there a 1/3 of that total.

Bishop on May 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Not to mention that the targeting of conservatives has been to shown to happen IMMEDIATELY after Obama met directly (not just a WH visit with a ‘hi’ in the hallway) with the IRS union rep/head.

So, yeah… we should totally give these folks the benefit of the doubt.

/x1000

Midas on May 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Not to mention that the targeting of conservatives has been to shown to happen IMMEDIATELY after Obama met directly (not just a WH visit with a ‘hi’ in the hallway) with the IRS union rep/head.

Midas on May 30, 2013 at 11:42 AM

And immediately after Obamacare was passed.

What amazing coincidences.

farsighted on May 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

[Bishop on May 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM]

Yup. They have the number — 157. Do they have the times? I’d be interested in seeing a graph of those visits — it may hint something or it may not.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:47 AM

I should keep in mind the Chicago Way attitude more. It just bothers me, though, that they weren’t so Chicago Way on many other things, with all the Starbucks meetings, and the sockpuppet e-mail accounts.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:34 AM

The Chicago Way attitude is that they can get away with anything and that they don’t really have too work to hard to hide it unless a federal prosecutor is snooping around nearby. Even then they can usually count on people keeping their mouths shut.

The Chicago Way attitude rationalizes anything they do as for the good of the people of Chicago, their people, even if it might be a little illegal, or something.

farsighted on May 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Considering how many vacations Obama has been on & how many campaign fundraisers he has attended across the country compared to the number of times / amount of time Shulman spent at the White House, it looks like Shulman has been in the White House more than Obama has been!

(I wonder if Shulman was in the WH / War Room during the Benghazi attack…no one seems to know where Obama was.)

easyt65 on May 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM

if schulman was colluding with the white house, why would they have kept record of his attendance?
nonpartisan on May 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM

So last post I see here in 11:53 AM.
You post this Troll Concern drivel & never follow up with anything of value. Not like that question had any value in it.
After watching all of your concern posts for a while, I sum you up as just another troll POS.
YOU are what is wrong with this country. And all the other POS trolls here & in life I meet in person.
Are you seriously not even wondering WTF it’s worrisome that the IRS commisioner visited Bammy so often? You don’t even fracking care about what that could mean?
Dude, you are a worthless piece of crap.
Post & run b!tch is what you are.
My gigantic pile of horse & cow $hit in my round pen smells better than your ‘nonpartisan concern’.
GFY.

Badger40 on May 30, 2013 at 12:05 PM

[PackerBronco on May 30, 2013 at 10:59 AM]

I not sure about that. I’m leaning towards the opposite belief — that they knew what they were doing was wrong, which was why they comported their official efforts in ways that were so out of the ordinary, eg, calling a reporter a co-conspirator. Expending so much effort providing cover before the fact is normally a sign you’re aware of the questionable legality of your actions.

In any event, I’m still not one to think he’s stupid and I don’t bank on scandals any more. I thought 200 Mexicans and a few American LE’s dead would have been sufficient, I would have thought 4 dead Americans in Libya would have been the final nail (it may still be), but those look like really bad bets.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM

I wish I had the stamina to take body shots and uppercuts all day long like NonPee, my time in Sturgis would be so much more interesting.
Bishop on May 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Dude. When you go again, you should stop by here. I’m only about 2 hours north of there.
Ask the Cave people how to get in touch with me. You are soo invited to hang out at the Ranch here & shoot guns & stuff.
Hubby would like you.

Badger40 on May 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM

but those look like really bad bets.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Seems like everybody’s out for themselves in the big cities & such.
Those of us in flyover country meanwhile are just preparing for collapse.
WTH else can I do? I try in my own little ways getting involved in politics as much as I can locally, debate & try to win people over, etc.
But really, I guess $hit is just going to have to hit a lot more people really hard before they WTF-up.

Badger40 on May 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM

That’s one Hell of a lot of Easter Egg Rolling…

glcinpdx on May 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM

My opinion is that although he was a Bush appointee he wanted to be re-appointed. he went many times to brown nose the white house.

gerrym51 on May 30, 2013 at 12:14 PM

The first excuse was the federal government is so big there is no way to know everything it is up to. But that excuse falls apart when the head of the bureaucratic section guilty of wrong doing is visiting the White House weekly during the period of interest.

[farsighted on May 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM]

Do we know the meetings reflect the period of interest? Does the period of interest coincide or over lap Obamacare, of which the IRS has a significant part?

I agree with your point about it not mattering who Schulman was meeting with, because, yes, it’s still technically Obama. I may have overly bristled with my objection to the two implication he was, but my reason had more to do with the implication by Ed that lots of meetings, on it’s face, was evidence of collusion to this specific action.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 12:18 PM

It wasn’t Easter Eggs that were getting rolled, it was America.

pat on May 30, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Maybe Shulman belonged to the WH sex club. That would explain his frequent visits.

Dasher on May 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM

He only remembered the Easter Egg roll? Really?

[hopeful on May 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM]

I will agree wholeheartedly with those who call Schulman stupid.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Let’s not jump the gun here until we find out how many Douglas Shulmans that Jay Carney personally knows….

And in other news, President Obama just called Mr Shulman and asked him to look into why a Douglas Shulman was at the WH so often and to report back to him personally with his findings.

jjjdad on May 30, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Post & run b!tch is what you are.
My gigantic pile of horse & cow $hit in my round pen smells better than your ‘nonpartisan concern’.
GFY.

Badger40 on May 30, 2013 at 12:05 PM

I love you. Nice blast.
Without ever being asked pospartisan claims to be a Harvard law graduate. Yet when asked what he actually does for a job other than meat beat he claims he doesn’t want to say.

arnold ziffel on May 30, 2013 at 12:33 PM

[Badger40 on May 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM]

Not quite everybody. I think I’m of like mind as you as far as your comment goes and I live in the city.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 12:34 PM

As IRS commissioner, he reported to Tim Geithner at Treasury,

Well, I guess at least now we know where they came up with the whole “let’s let Holder investigate himself” concept.

RINO in Name Only on May 30, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Why speculate? Let’s get Shulman under hypnosis oath and see if we can get those suppressed memories of his visits to the WH back.

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 10:57 AM

RINO in Name Only on May 30, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Not quite everybody. I think I’m of like mind as you as far as your comment goes and I live in the city.

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 12:34 PM

I do realize that. When I make those comments, there’s an assumption yall are not like that.
I just hope you can escape &/or survive if push comes to shove.
I feel like a caged animal in the city.

Badger40 on May 30, 2013 at 12:46 PM

I love you. Nice blast.
Without ever being asked pospartisan claims to be a Harvard law graduate. Yet when asked what he actually does for a job other than meat beat he claims he doesn’t want to say.

arnold ziffel on May 30, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Thanks :D
If he went to Harvard law, then their requirements are much much lower than they used to be.
IT has no reasoning skills.

Badger40 on May 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Why speculate? Let’s get waterboard Shulman under hypnosis oath and see if we can get those suppressed memories of his visits to the WH back.

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 10:57 AM

fixed

ROCnPhilly on May 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM

You’re the second person to imply going to the WH is equal meeting with Obama, personally. Why do people think going to the WH must mean Obama saying more than “Hello!” in the hallway to people who go the WH, much less seeing him at all?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

The White House logs identify with whom officials, including the President, meet. According to those logs, Douglas Shulman met with President Obama at least six times. The POTUS meetings occurred in 2009, 2011 and 2012. No POTUS meetings were reported in 2010.

Shulman’s predecessor, Mark Everson, visited the White House exactly ONCE during the Bush administration and it was not to meet with the POTUS. According to Mr Everson, he attended an inter-agency policy meeting with members of the West Wing staff. He has said that being appointed as the IRS Commissioner was like being sent to Siberia.

Attorney General Eric Holder: 62 publicly-known White House visits, which is not even half as many as Shulman’s 157.

Former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, to whom Shulman reported: 48 publicly-known visits.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: 43 publicly-known visits.

Secretary of State John Kerry: 49 publicly-known White House visits when he was still a Senator.

Secretary of HHS Kathleen Sebelius: 48 publicly-known visits.

Secretary of DHS Janet Napolitano: 34 publicly-known visits.

Secretary of Education Arne Duncan: 31 publicly-known visits.

Former Secretary of Energy Steven Chu: 22 publicly-known visits.

Former Secretary of Defence Robert Gates: 17 publicly-known COMBINED visits to the White House during both the Bush and Obama administrations.

Acting Secretary of Commerce Rebecca Blank: 86 publicly-known visits.

Asst. Attorney General Thomas Perez: 83 publicly-known visits.

Obama’s nominee for Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker: 76 publicly-known White House visits.

Caveat: The Washington Post database of visitor log records cautions: ‘The log may include some scheduled visits that did not take place and exclude visits by members of Congress, top officials and others who are not required to sign in at security gates.’

Thus, all of the above individuals may have indeed visited the White House MORE times than the WH logs suggest, which still doesn’t help the Obama administration vis-a-vis the IRS scandal.

The entire matter stinks to high-heaven. I could chalk up Shulman’s entirely extraordinary number of WH visits and the unconstitutional, illegal, immoral, unethical, tyrannical, oppressive and UN-AMERICAN activities of the IRS to coincidence, but Occam’s Razor is a far more realistic explanation.

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Mark Everson, who ran the IRS during most of the George W. Bush administration, from 2003 to 2007, apparently visited a single time, grousing that he felt like he had “moved to Siberia” because the tax collection agency was so out of the policy loop.

Schadenfreude on May 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Dates and times of his visits need to be cross-checked with other visitors. We may find curiously coincidental visits at the same time by reps from EPA, ATF, FEC, FCC and Oblamer’s re-election campaign coordinators.

Those pesky Conservatives/Republicans needed to be too tied up with litigation, regulation and licensing issues to be spending any money on getting Romney elected.

Dexter_Alarius on May 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM

if schulman was colluding with the white house, why would they have kept record of his attendance?
nonpartisan on May 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM

It’s not up to them to keep the records, fool.

YOU always believe in tyranny. I hope they get your empty head.

Schadenfreude on May 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM

if schulman was colluding with the white house, why would they have kept record of his attendance?

nonpartisan on May 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Seriously???

Each and everyday, you prove that you fell off the turnip lorry the previous day.

Just exactly how many times did your mum drop you on your head when you were a baby?

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Is it just me, or does that photo of Shulman look like Pee Wee Herman?

bofh on May 30, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Do we know the meetings reflect the period of interest? Does the period of interest coincide or over lap Obamacare, of which the IRS has a significant part?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Are you serious?

The period of interest is reportedly 27 months long, and it started soon after Obamacare was passed in March of 2010.

The 157 meetings in the White House with Shulman reportedly took place over a period of three years, necessarily ending when he left the post in November of 2012. They may have ended sooner.

I haven’t seen anyone suggest there was not a large overlap. It is essentially impossible that there wasn’t a large overlap. And if there wasn’t the admin’s apologists and partisan hacks would be reporting this all over the place.

Instead President Chauncey Gardiner is saying “I know nothing”. And the most transparent admin in history is basically saying “prove Shulman talked to Dear Leader about this”. And Shulman is saying he doesn’t really remember any of those 157 visits tio the White House, except one for an Easter Egg hunt.

How credulous are you?

farsighted on May 30, 2013 at 1:25 PM

157?

Why not assume many more? They may not have documented some.

Since he is an anatomy retentive tax agent, I bet he kept all the receipts for his bus tickets and train tickets.

seven on May 30, 2013 at 1:35 PM

The 157 meetings in the White House with Shulman reportedly took place over a period of three years, necessarily ending when he left the post in November of 2012. They may have ended sooner

I listened to the hearing that day and the 157 number was only for 2010 and 2011; they hadn’t counted 2012 yet.

gracie on May 30, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Is it just me, or does that photo of Shulman look like Pee Wee Herman?

yup, caught with his pants down….Easter egg roll my butt….

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. As Flounder would say…This is great!

gracie on May 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM

‘if schulman was colluding with the white house, why would they have kept record of his attendance?’

- nonpartisan on May 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM

It is required that visitors sign in unless the rules otherwise require. The Secret Service starts with the presumption that a visitor MUST sign in before being admitted to the White House.

If the President and/or the White House were colluding, would you rather they have reduced their illicit scheme to paper or sent electric communications? If you were remotely educated in the law, you would know why it would be preferable to meet in person at the White House, which can be waived off with some plausible explanation of the visit, than for the collusion be recorded on paper or in other form. Executive privilege does NOT extend to officials or documents where there is a ‘sufficient likelihood’ that a law has been broken and/or the evidence is ‘demonstrably relevant’ to a criminal investigation or trial. Intelligent, educated people know this…if for the only reason because of what the Supreme Court ruled in United States v Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974). The Court held:

‘No person, not even the president of the United States, is completely above the law; and the president cannot use executive privilege as an excuse to withhold evidence that is ‘demonstrably relevant’ in a criminal investigation or trial.’

In its unanimous decision, the Court said:

‘There is a sufficient likelihood that each of the tapes contains conversations relevant to the offenses charged in the indictment…Neither the doctrine of separation of powers, nor the need for confidentiality can sustain an absolute, unqualified Presidential privilege of immunity from judicial process.’

Nixon was required to turn over his tapes and resigned 15 days later.

If not in writing, recorded electronically, or in person at the White House, where else would you suggest a President and others meet to collude in an illegal scheme? I know! A carpark in Rock Creek Park at midnight. That would be so much less unusual, conspicuous, illegitimate, suspect, and/or draw any unwanted attention or ‘less than noble’ conclusions, n’est-ce pas? /

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 1:41 PM

If there ever was justification with extreme sinus flushing, aka waterboarding, I’d love to see Shulman, Lerner, Miller, Paz, and Kelley put to it. Those contemptible smirks would disappear, and quick.

Anti-Statist on May 30, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Funny how nobrain always disappears when the challenges get tough on it.

Schadenfreude on May 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

I think it’s pretty obvious this guy’s a rump ranger and barky was his favorite peice.

Either that or the fact they didn’t want anything in writing?

Could be they had their mafia style meeting and then concluded it with a good old fashioned rectal exam.

acyl72 on May 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Could be they had their mafia style meeting and then concluded it with a good old fashioned rectal exam.

acyl72 on May 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Think they were busy at it on the night of 9-11-2012? No one seems to know what BO was doing that nite.

gracie on May 30, 2013 at 2:01 PM

You have the seed of a reasonable question, though I would ask if Shulman was colluding with the WH, why would he go to the WH so often?

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 10:30 AM

You need to be more imaginative and think like a conspiracy theorist. After all, it wasn’t long ago that HA was floating the idea of the IRS targeting pro-Israeli groups.

You might also ask why a Bush appointee was visiting the Obama WH so often… a double agent?

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

After all, it wasn’t long ago that HA was floating the idea of the IRS targeting pro-Israeli groups.

Because it was true.

You might also ask why a Bush appointee was visiting the Obama WH so often… a double agent?

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Schulman was and continues to be a partisan Democrat.

The only way that Bush could have an IRS appointee approved by the Democrat Senate in 2008 was if Bush nominated a Democrat.

sentinelrules on May 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM

You need to be more imaginative and think like a conspiracy theorist. After all, it wasn’t long ago that HA was floating the idea of the IRS targeting pro-Israeli groups.

You might wish to read the WSJ, among other publications…

‘At least five pro-Israel organizations that have been audited by the IRS in the wake of a coordinated campaign by White House-allied activist groups in 2009 and 2010.

Many of the charities openly clashed with the Obama administration’s policy of opposing Israeli settlement construction over the so-called “Green Line,” which marks the pre-1967 boundary between Israel and the West Bank and West and East Jerusalem.

After the Obama administration took up the Israeli-Palestinian peace process as one of its most prominent foreign policy priorities in early 2009, and made a cessation of Israeli settlement construction the cornerstone of its approach, the nonprofits were subjected to a string of unflattering media reports.

White House-allied lobbying groups joined the media criticism by challenged the nonprofits’ tax-exempt status, arguing that they undercut President Barack Obama’s Middle East policies.

The media scrutiny began as early as March 26, 2009, when the Washington Post’s David Ignatius published a column questioning the groups’ tax-exempt status.

The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) announced the next day that it would begin a campaign of filing legal complaints with the IRS and the Treasury Department to investigate groups “allegedly raising funds for the development of illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank.”

ADC is closely tied to the Obama White House. The president recorded a video greeting to the group’s annual conference and sent two senior administration officials to attend.

Fortunately, the Obama Administration has already been sued by several pro-Israeli groups and, as any lawyer will tell you – and I am – DISCOVERY IS A BIATCH.

You might also ask why a Bush appointee was visiting the Obama WH so often… a double agent?

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

You mean Doug Shulman, the life-long DEMOCRAT who contributed to DEMOCRATS, including the DNC in the very year Bush ran for reelection?

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 2:18 PM

After all, it wasn’t long ago that HA was floating the idea of the IRS targeting pro-Israeli groups.

Because it was true.

You might also ask why a Bush appointee was visiting the Obama WH so often… a double agent?

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Schulman was and continues to be a partisan Democrat.

The only way that Bush could have an IRS appointee approved by the Democrat Senate in 2008 was if Bush nominated a Democrat.

Ha ! Consecutive posts and all of 13 minutes to extinction.

Thanks sentinelrules !!!

sentinelrules on May 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Jabberwock on May 30, 2013 at 2:24 PM

The pro-Israel group Z STREET filed a lawsuit against the IRS in 2010, claiming an IRS agent said the organization would come under extra scrutiny because it’s “connected to Israel.”

In addition, the IRS agent told a Z STREET representative that the applications of some of those Israel-related organizations have been assigned to “a special unit in the D.C. office to determine whether the organization’s activities contradict the Administration’s public policies.”

* * * * * *

The IRS even took the position that because Israel is a country “where terrorism happens,” the service was justified in taking additional time to determine whether Z STREET was involved with funding terrorism.

The first hearing in Z STREET v IRS is reportedly scheduled for July.

So, pro-Israeli groups get extra scrutiny while Obama’s half-brother not only got his tax exemption personally from Lois Lerner in less than 30 days, but also was given the exemption retroactively for two years.

It’s weird ‘cuz, like, the address that Obama used for his tax exempt organisation has no record of The Barack H Obama Foundation. In fact, the address for the foundation – 4201 Wilson Blvd. Ste 110-152, Arlington, Va. 22030 – provided to the IRS by the foundation itself is actually the location of…wait for it…

The marketing centre for A Better Today Recovery Services — a drug-and-alcohol treatment organisation, whose staff had never even heard of The Barack H Obama Foundation.

Oh, and guess what??? The Barack H Obama Foundation has been tied to a GENOCIDAL DICTATOR (Sudan’s President Omar Al-Bashir, who is wanted) AND TERRORISM.

Malik Obama is the Executive Secretary of the Islamic Da’wa Organization (IDO) as reported by all major Saudi press, including Okaz.

The IDO has been created by the Sudanese Government, which is considered by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist state. This places Malik Obama in bed with terrorists and working as an official with a terrorist state.

Obama’s step-Grandmother Sarah, Uncle Sayid, and Cousin Musa told Al-Jazeera that the Mama Sarah Obama Foundation (MSOF) deceptively diverts its contributions toward scholarships for Kenyan students to attend the most virulent of Wahhabist schools… in Saudi Arabia:

Obama’s Cousin Interviews on Al Jazeera Part 1/3

Obama’s Cousin Interviews on Al Jazeera Part 2/3

Obama’s Cousin Interviews on Al Jazeera Part 3/3

Of course, you’re probably right. Neither Obama foundation received preferential treatment nor was any Jewish organisation targeted. I mean, if you say it, then it MUST be true…just like when you said that the notion of the IRS targeting TP groups was just a ‘tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.’

BTW, do you have an opinion on Lois Lerner’s taking of the Fifth Amendment? After all, both you and she claim that the IRS did absolutely nothing wrong. So, why the refusal to testify?

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 2:36 PM

The pro-Israel group Z STREET filed a lawsuit against the IRS in 2010, claiming an IRS agent said the organization would come under extra scrutiny because it’s “connected to Israel.”

In addition, the IRS agent told a Z STREET representative that the applications of some of those Israel-related organizations have been assigned to “a special unit in the D.C. office to determine whether the organization’s activities contradict the Administration’s public policies.”

* * * * * *

The IRS even took the position that because Israel is a country “where terrorism happens,” the service was justified in taking additional time to determine whether Z STREET was involved with funding terrorism.

The first hearing in Z STREET v IRS is reportedly scheduled for July.

So, pro-Israeli groups get extra scrutiny while Obama’s half-brother not only got his tax exemption personally from Lois Lerner in less than 30 days, but also was given the exemption retroactively for two years.

It’s weird ‘cuz, like, the address that Obama used for his tax exempt organisation has no record of The Barack H Obama Foundation. In fact, the address for the foundation – 4201 Wilson Blvd. Ste 110-152, Arlington, Va. 22030 – provided to the IRS by the foundation itself is actually the location of…wait for it…

The marketing centre for A Better Today Recovery Services — a drug-and-alcohol treatment organisation, whose staff had never even heard of The Barack H Obama Foundation.

Oh, and guess what??? The Barack H Obama Foundation has been tied to a GENOCIDAL DICTATOR (Sudan’s President Omar Al-Bashir, who is wanted) AND TERRORISM.

Malik Obama is the Executive Secretary of the Islamic Da’wa Organization (IDO) as reported by all major Saudi press, including Okaz.

The IDO has been created by the Sudanese Government, which is considered by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist state. This places Malik Obama in bed with terrorists and working as an official with a terrorist state.

Obama’s step-Grandmother Sarah, Uncle Sayid, and Cousin Musa told Al-Jazeera that the Mama Sarah Obama Foundation (MSOF) deceptively diverts its contributions toward scholarships for Kenyan students to attend the most virulent of Wahhabist schools… in Saudi Arabia:

Obama’s Cousin Interviews on Al Jazeera Part 1/3

Make sure to watch Parts 2 & 3, too.

Of course, you’re probably right. Neither Obama foundation received preferential treatment nor was any Jewish organisation targeted. I mean, if you say it, then it MUST be true…just like when you said that the notion of the IRS targeting TP groups was just a ‘tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.’

BTW, do you have an opinion on Lois Lerner’s taking of the Fifth Amendment? After all, both you and she claim that the IRS did absolutely nothing wrong. So, why the refusal to testify?

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Bayam’s butt hurts. Again, for yet another day.

Jabberwock on May 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM

bayam, find yourself, here.

You’re doing a fine job today, as any day.

Schadenfreude on May 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM

For better HA Capitalism, if not for bayam’s enlightenment.

Schadenfreude on May 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Note how leftists always vanish when they get beaten.

Schadenfreude on May 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Has anyone compared a log of his visits with Valerie Jarrett’s travel schedule?

crosspatch on May 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Bayam’s butt hurts. Again, for yet another day.

Jabberwock on May 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Yeppers…and that butt hurt has been caught on film…

The HotAirians (Pics)

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Funny how being a Bush appointee makes abuse of power at the democrat-run IRS fine and dandy, but if a Bush-appointed federal judge rules against them, the leftists sure get their panties in a bunch.

CurtZHP on May 30, 2013 at 3:18 PM

After all, it wasn’t loginative and think like a conspiracy theorist. ng ago that HA was floating the idea of the IRS targeting pro-Israeli groups.

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

You’re a little slow on the uptake, aren’t you? Yesterday’s conspiracy theory is today’s reality I guess. I don’t expect a response because every single time you are proven to be an ignorant Fluke you run and hide. So wallow in your benightedness silently.

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM

How can bush appoint Shulman IRS commis when in 2004, Shulman donated $500 to the democratic senatorial committee. Don’t they check. I know Bush was a rino, but did he have to appoint a democrat to head the IRS.

It’s not like a democrat won’t go after taxpayers for bigger government.

Regarding, the 157+ visits to the white house by shulman. I believe every visit was to update the white house & the obama presidential campaign on who the whale doners were (then they would send the FBI, OSHA etc.), the statis of the 501 conservative groups, donor lists, etc..

It’s obvious that the obama election strategy was to tie up GOP conservative money so they couldn’t donate to a conservative candidate in 2011 (possibly a palin)

I come back to bush, him, his family & his hanger-ons have done more damage to conservatism than anything the democrats could have done.

Danielvito on May 30, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Yeppers…and that butt hurt has been caught on film…

The HotAirians (Pics)

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

That is awesome. I must have missed mine though…let me go look again…

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM

All you Right wing whackos crack me up. It is not 157 times, because that would be ridiculous or something. It was actually 1.57 visits. Some rogue clerk or two just left out a decimal point. Nothing to see here tinfoil hatters, move along.

brn2rde on May 30, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Hubris mixed with stupidity: the hallmark of the Obama White House.

Quite frankly, I believe they thought that targeting the Tea Party and other conservative groups was perfectly legal and proper. They didn’t go out of their way to hide it because they didn’t think they were doing anything wrong.

Same with Holder and the wiretaps.

They view everything through a political partisan lens and I imagine the most common reaction in the White House is, “c’mon, what’s the BIG DEAL about all of this?”

PackerBronco on May 30, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Indeed. And they had been given Media coverage on so much else, why would they expect any blowback on targeting conservatives?

AesopFan on May 30, 2013 at 4:10 PM

The only way that Bush could have an IRS appointee approved by the Democrat Senate in 2008 was if Bush nominated a Democrat.

sentinelrules on May 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Should have left the post empty.

Yesterday’s conspiracy theory is today’s reality I guess.

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Maybe we should revisit a few more of those paranoid wacko accusations.
Could be a Cold Nut-Case reality-tv series.

AesopFan on May 30, 2013 at 4:15 PM

After all, it wasn’t loginative and think like a conspiracy theorist. ng ago that HA was floating the idea of the IRS targeting pro-Israeli groups.

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

You’re a little slow on the uptake, aren’t you? Yesterday’s conspiracy theory is today’s reality I guess. I don’t expect a response because every single time you are proven to be an ignorant Fluke you run and hide. So wallow in your benightedness silently.

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM

The primary target remains Islamic groups that include ‘Israel’ or a reference to the Middle East in their names. Such targeting has been active at IRS since 2001 and has resulted in the closure of many ‘nonprofit fundraising’ operations for Islamic groups active within the US. A few pro-Israeli groups were also affected but the numbers are relatively small.

But don’t let me slow down, feel free to pretend otherwise and increase your sense of victimization.

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM

That is awesome. I must have missed mine though…let me go look again…

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM

I’m getting to you. Don’t worry. I’ve got a list that keeps growing thanks to the QOTD crew. :-)

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 5:17 PM

The primary target remains Islamic groups that include ‘Israel’ or a reference to the Middle East in their names.

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM

OK Chris Hayes. I’ll tell you the same thing I tell verbalidiocy: We already know the score. You twits need to tune in and stop looking at yesterday’s game.

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 5:20 PM

The primary target remains Islamic groups that include ‘Israel’ or a reference to the Middle East in their names. Such targeting has been active at IRS since 2001 and has resulted in the closure of many ‘nonprofit fundraising’ operations for Islamic groups active within the US. A few pro-Israeli groups were also affected but the numbers are relatively small.

But don’t let me slow down, feel free to pretend otherwise and increase your sense of victimization.

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Er, Muslim groups received their tax exemptions in less than 9 months, on average.

But, I’m pleased that you no longer seem to be arguing that the IRS DID target Jewish groups. Only a couple of hours ago, you were claiming that such an idea could only be spawned in the world of conspiracy theorists.

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 5:20 PM

I’m getting to you. Don’t worry. I’ve got a list that keeps growing thanks to the QOTD crew. :-)

Resist We Much on May 30, 2013 at 5:17 PM

:P

NotCoach on May 30, 2013 at 5:20 PM

The primary target remains Islamic groups that include ‘Israel’ or a reference to the Middle East in their names. Such targeting has been active at IRS since 2001 and has resulted in the closure of many ‘nonprofit fundraising’ operations for Islamic groups active within the US. A few pro-Israeli groups were also affected but the numbers are relatively small.

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Resist We Much goes out of his way to bring data to his suppositions.

You have anything to back up this?

And restating, didn’t you previously state there was no such targeting?

itsspideyman on May 30, 2013 at 5:33 PM

bayam on May 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Your last talking points diatribe fizzled. Back for another butt kicking?

PackerBronco on May 30, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Hey, maybe Shulman is Obama’s Monica Lewinski and “Easter Egg hunt” is a euphemism for… well, you know the rest…

WordsMatter on May 30, 2013 at 10:10 AM

I was thinking along the same lines. Well, minus the ick factor. I assumed the only reason for that many visits was Shulman was having an affair with a WH staffer.

meezle on May 30, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Gee thanks again George Bush for hiring Shulman. Great character analysis there GW. GW is the guy who didn’t defend his principles his last term, hence ours and threw millions of us under his own bus. He put zero defense in our support which is why he left office with 23% of his own which we’re still fighting not to mention GW for all intents and purposes created Obama. Now, was Bush better than Obama? Yes in GW first term but during his second is like asking, what do you like better Okra or Lima Beans? I’m done with this pooky pooky bambi bambi BS RINO politics. If your not willing to get bloodied up along with the rest of us then get the hell out, your wasting people’s time and money which reminds me GOP, zero for you folks for a while which we’ll revisit closer to 2014. If nothing has moved forward besides McCain and Graham, et al., being the Senates bicycle racks then not only will I switch to Independent but will then fight you, no? Ohhh, bank it.

Tangerinesong on May 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM

shulman had a girlfriend he was visiting in the white house so his wife wouldn’t know.

gerrym51 on May 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Dusty on May 30, 2013 at 11:47 AM
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Indeed. Determine who entered/left or was at the WH the same days/times as Shulman, then question these people. It’s not rocket science.

diogenes on May 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

He needs to be closely questioned under oath about this egg hunt. When exactly was it? Who else was there? What was his role? Egg-supplier or did he pick any up? How many? Where are the eggs now?
(seriously, a professional liar cannot resist lying about even the smallest thing but a small perjury is a big deal)

And when the smirk has disappeared from his smug face, questions should continue about all the other officially logged visits, whom he met and the national taxation matter discussed. His professional diary should make this a simple task. He should be asked about any unofficial visits, or to confirm that there were no other occasions, and then to comment on their relevance to taxation.

If they were not job-relevant, that they were personal visits, with whom did he meet, and let him confirm these personal visits.

virgo on May 31, 2013 at 12:06 AM

I think this guy looks kinda prissy. I believe he might have held too many backdoor “conferences” with Frank and Weiner re tax bills.

philoise65 on May 31, 2013 at 2:16 AM

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