Report: Six days after Obama announced new policy limiting drone strikes, U.S. kills Pakistani Taliban number two in drone strike

posted at 2:41 pm on May 29, 2013 by Allahpundit

If it makes the doves out there feel better, I’m sure O was “anguished” and introspective, blah blah, about this latest raining o’ the death.

Quick, poll the public and see who’s angry about a prominent ally of Al Qaeda being liquidated.

The drone strike killed seven people, Pakistani security officials said, including Taliban deputy commander Wali-ur-Rehman, in the first such attack since a May 11 general election in which the use of the unmanned aircraft was a major issue.

Wali-ur-Rehman had been poised to succeed Hakimullah Mehsud as leader of the Pakistani Taliban, a senior army official based in the South Waziristan region, had said in December.

“This is a huge blow to militants and a win in the fight against insurgents,” one security official told Reuters, declining further comment.

The Pakistani Taliban are a separate entity allied to the Afghan Taliban. Known as the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), they have launched devastating attacks against the Pakistani military and civilians.

No one’s sure yet how many of the seven people killed were jihadis or merely bystanders sacrificed as “collateral damage” in the effort to nail Rehman. Obama suggested in last week’s brief counterterror distraction from Scandalmania that it was time to scale back drone strikes, especially when it comes to protecting bystanders, and reserve them only for (in the words of one U.S. official) those who present a “continuing, imminent threat to U.S. persons.” What does that mean? No one’s really sure. Even people who specialize in foreign policy and military affairs, like Micah Zenko and Fred Kaplan, can’t tell if last Thursday’s windage represents a meaningful policy shift or just old drone-y wine in new rhetorical bottles. At Danger Room, Spencer Ackerman tries to figure out if Rehman qualifies for targeting under O’s new standards — if there is a new standard — or if the White House is already pushing past the boundaries it set for itself.

Rehman was not a member of al-Qaida. He was said to be poised to inherit the leadership of the Pakistani Taliban, which is an ally of al-Qaida’s residual core leadership in Pakistan. In 2010, the Pakistani Taliban boasted of training the naturalized U.S. citizen Faisal Shahzad for his ultimately unsuccessful bombing attempt in Times Square. The State Department put a $5 million bounty on ur-Rehman that year, but stopped short blaming him for Shahzad, although it did blame him for the deadly 2009 attack on a secret CIA base in Afghanistan. The group’s involvement in ongoing plots against the U.S. is less evident, however, and Obama explicitly said “America does not take strikes to punish individuals.”

The primary threat the Pakistani Taliban pose is to Pakistan. And the CIA got into the drone game in Pakistan in 2004 by agreeing to kill Pakistan’s enemies for it, as the New York Times‘ Mark Mazzetti reported in his new book. Rehman, it’s worth noting, has threatened Britain personally, though his involvement in any actual attack on the U.K. is unclear. Obama’s speech seemed to signal that the U.S. was done with sending drones after the enemies of its friends — but in any event, Pakistani military sources told Reuters in December that Rehman was “a more pragmatic” leader than incumbent Hakimullah Mehsud, with whom Rehman was said to be feuding. While Rehman was said to pursue reconciliation with the Pakistani government, the Pakistani military officers speculated that his rise “might lead to more attacks across the border in Afghanistan” on U.S.-led forces…

The Taliban in Afghanistan present a “continuing, imminent threat” to U.S. troops stationed there, and Rehman’s group in Pakistan is allied with them, and maybe Rehman’s further rise to power would have increased the threat, so … close enough for a drone kaboom, yes? One alternative possibility: Because Rehman presented more of a threat to Pakistan than to America, maybe this is yet another case of the White House doing its friends in Islamabad a favor by eliminating a domestic threat for them. An intel official told Long War Journal that the drone program was suspended in Pakistan in mid-April for “political considerations,” i.e. because the country was holding elections and the top candidates from both major parties were drone critics who sought talks with Taliban factions. Maybe Rehman, despite his reputation for “pragmatism,” was actually a hindrance to talks and the Pakistanis quietly requested that he be taken out in order to remove an obstacle. Or, more boldly, maybe his reputation was accurate and the White House, fearing that the Taliban would gain in Pakistan if the talks came off, decided to take out Rehman itself in order to create an obstacle to their rapprochement with Islamabad. Either way, that would be far beyond the drone limits that Obama laid out last week. But that’s okay from the White House’s perspective because, when push comes to shove, only the chattering classes care much about the specific protocols for killing bad guys and most of them are sufficiently liberal that they’ll let Obama slide for being a bit too aggressive at times. (That’s what the anguished Hamlet routine is about, signaling to lefty intellectuals that he’s wrestling with the moral and legal implications of all this and therefore can be trusted not to go really overboard with his drone policy.) Because Rehman had bumped up against U.S. intelligence before, O had political cover to take him out as an “imminent threat to America” now no matter what the real underlying reason might be. Go figure that a president who ignored his own lawyers and intervened in Libya without congressional approval wouldn’t be a stickler about tying his own hands in warmaking.


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Just words.

Well, out of all of 0bama’s lies, obfuscations, clarifications and back peddling, I have the least problems with this one.

cozmo on May 29, 2013 at 2:46 PM

This is the only thing that I agree with barky.

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 2:47 PM

How many number two’s have we killed so far? How come we never blow up an eleven or a thirty-three?

myiq2xu on May 29, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Hey – leave the peace-loving Messiah alone – he’s just trying to earn his peace prize…..

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Actually the Dog Eater didn’t know he gave such an order until he read here at HotGas today.

Bishop on May 29, 2013 at 2:48 PM

“War is over if you want to” — John Lennon

J_Crater on May 29, 2013 at 2:49 PM

How many number two’s have we killed so far? How come we never blow up an eleven or a thirty-three?

myiq2xu on May 29, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Because there aren’t that many bodily secretions important low tier leaders.

nobar on May 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM

U.S. kills Pakistani Taliban number two in drone strike

and we should believe it why exactly ?

burrata on May 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM

How many number two’s have we killed so far? How come we never blow up an eleven or a thirty-three?

myiq2xu on May 29, 2013 at 2:47 PM

When’s the last time we saw joe “just shoot a couple of blasts through the door” bite-me?

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM

How come we never blow up an eleven or a thirty-three?

myiq2xu on May 29, 2013 at 2:47 PM

because they are here and on welfare ?

burrata on May 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Obama drones on.

If the war on terror “is over” how come there is a dept of homeland security and a TSA?

To control you, fools. They’ve got TEA party rallies to monitor, and this.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM

and we should believe it why exactly ?

burrata on May 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Because he had a giant numeral “2″ painted on his dishdasha.

Actually it was supposed to be “22″ but the painter took a break to have a bite of Naan bread…and the timing couldn’t have been worse.

Bishop on May 29, 2013 at 2:56 PM

“War is over if you want to” — John Lennon

J_Crater on May 29, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Of course – just surrender to whoever is trying to kill or conquer you and the war ends.
If we want the “war on terror” to end, all we have to do is stop fighting – and convert the US into an Islamic Republic.
The problem then becomes whether we all choose to become Sunni or Shiite Muslims – because whichever of those 2 you become, the other side of THAT Islamic battle will decide you must die.
We’re not even in Iraq any more and look at how many Muslim vs Muslim bombings continue to happen.

Face it – Islam itself is a never-ending war, whether it’s against non-Islamic infidels or against infidels on the wrong side of Islam.

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Psyche!

michaelo on May 29, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Heh, maybe Obama really is smart and is faking out the enemy?

/sarc

redguy on May 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Anybody here know of a poster here at HA that goes by palsur?

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Call me a dove; but why are we killing people in countries that we are not at war? Not sure this is a good policy.

Tater Salad on May 29, 2013 at 2:58 PM

If only the grunts had the same rules of engagement as the drones.

Wigglesworth on May 29, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Anybody here know of a poster here at HA that goes by palsur?

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Search doesn’t show it at all.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Face it – Islam itself is a never-ending war, whether it’s against non-Islamic infidels or against infidels on the wrong side of Islam.

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Yes, we have to starve them to death. Keep ramping up oil production in the US to kill OPEC.
Don’t send the Muslims money, food or weapons…and don’t let them in your country to get
money, food or weapons.

redguy on May 29, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Call me a dove; but why are we killing people in countries that we are not at war? Not sure this is a good policy.

Tater Salad on May 29, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Because Obumble wants to prove he deserves his peace prize – or something….

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Report: Six days after Obama announced new policy limiting drone strikes, U.S. kills Pakistani Taliban number two in drone strike

…what took him so long?

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Yes, we have to starve them to death. Keep ramping up oil production in the US to kill OPEC.
Don’t send the Muslims money, food or weapons…and don’t let them in your country to get
money, food or weapons.

redguy on May 29, 2013 at 2:59 PM

I’ll second that motion.

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Search doesn’t show it at all.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2013 at 2:59 PM

I misspelled it – it’s “paulsur” – I ask because he just left a turd on the Redskins thread.

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:02 PM

or if the White House is already pushing past the boundaries it set for itself.

*pffft*

This WH recognizes no boundaries, whether set by itself or others (ie: the Constitution, the courts, the law, etc).

Midas on May 29, 2013 at 3:04 PM

I misspelled it – it’s “paulsur” – I ask because he just left a turd on the Redskins thread.

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:02 PM

And somehow managed to get the n-word through the censor.

nobar on May 29, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Call me a dove; but why are we killing people in countries that we are not at war? Not sure this is a good policy.

Tater Salad on May 29, 2013 at 2:58 PM

You’re right; we should declare war and then nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

Midas on May 29, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Anybody here know of a poster here at HA that goes by palsur?

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM

…there’s several peni$ posters…but they go by the name of HotLips, spermsequestrian, noforeskin, DungBalls, bayingass, and libfreeorgan…why?

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 3:06 PM

…there’s several peni$ posters…but they go by the name of HotLips, spermsequestrian, noforeskin, DungBalls, bayingass, and libfreeorgan…why?

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 3:06 PM

I know of all those you mentioned but the following is not cool.

I misspelled it – it’s “paulsur” – I ask because he just left a turd on the Redskins thread.

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:02 PM

And somehow managed to get the n-word through the censor.

nobar on May 29, 2013 at 3:04 PM

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:08 PM

It is nice to know that he doesn’t just lie to the American people, he lies to the terrorists too. Faked them out, didn’t he!

Deadly man, that Obama.

Or–squirrel!

I trust nothing out of this Whitehouse.

petunia on May 29, 2013 at 3:12 PM

This WH recognizes no boundaries, whether set by itself or others (ie: the Constitution, the courts, the law, etc).

Midas on May 29, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Well we know how he deals with the red lines he draws in teh sand….

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Well we know how he deals with the red lines he draws in teh sand….

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 3:13 PM

I’ve got it! Instead of the Washington Redskins, call them the Washington Redlines!

I know, it’s weak… but I’m trying!

Turtle317 on May 29, 2013 at 3:15 PM

and we should believe it why exactly ?

burrata on May 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM

The Pakistani Taliban is in contract talks with Nike for jerseys with numbers and the Afgan Taliban has a deal working with Adidas.When those are done we can get a program that list the players.

docflash on May 29, 2013 at 3:16 PM

For the Messiah, words don’t really matter.

WordsMatter on May 29, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Because there aren’t that many bodily secretions important low tier leaders.

But yet there seems to be an endless supply of number twos.

myiq2xu on May 29, 2013 at 3:19 PM

But yet there seems to be an endless supply of number twos.

myiq2xu on May 29, 2013 at 3:19 PM

They digest appoint them really fast.

nobar on May 29, 2013 at 3:21 PM

And somehow managed to get the n-word through the censor.

nobar on May 29, 2013 at 3:04 PM

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:08 PM

…took me 3 or 4 times to try to respond to the rectum pulsator…because HIS word put me into the mod mode!

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 3:22 PM

…took me 3 or 4 times to try to respond to the rectum pulsator…because HIS word put me into the mod mode!

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I don’t recall seeing that poster before.

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Why does Obama kill only Muslims with his drones?

faraway on May 29, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Why does Obama kill only Muslims with his drones?

faraway on May 29, 2013 at 3:28 PM

He’s killed at least 4 US citizens.

nobar on May 29, 2013 at 3:29 PM

I don’t recall seeing that poster before.

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:26 PM

…the more problems that JugEars and his appointed clowns have…and the closer we get to 2014…the more the sh!t will seep up from the sceptic field…to disrupt this site…that’s why I want to start trollcotting now!

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Seems we are fighting the war on Islamic extremist the wrong way; 1) keep them out of our country, 2) get out of their country, and 3) without our economic help, they will begin to see that their religious fanaticism won’t put bread on the table.

Tater Salad on May 29, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Why does Obama kill only Muslims with his drones?

faraway on May 29, 2013 at 3:28 PM
He’s killed at least 4 US citizens.

nobar on May 29, 2013 at 3:29 PM

…and we’re not counting Bengahzi!…where he wouldn’t let the drone do its job!

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 3:33 PM

All the Taliban are #2′s, even the #1.

AMF.

NoDonkey on May 29, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Why does Obama kill only Muslims with his drones?

faraway on May 29, 2013 at 3:28 PM

so far…….

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 3:38 PM

without our economic help, they will begin to see that their religious fanaticism won’t put bread on the table.

Tater Salad on May 29, 2013 at 3:32 PM

I think you are giving them way too much credit.

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:41 PM

He’s killed at least 4 US citizens.

nobar on May 29, 2013 at 3:29 PM

The 4 killed by drones were all Muslim.
The 4 he killed in Benghazi were not…..

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Obama drones a lot of lies.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2013 at 3:46 PM

without our economic help, they will begin to see that their religious fanaticism won’t put bread on the table.

Tater Salad on May 29, 2013 at 3:32 PM

You are naive. They’d rather eat sand than keep your head on its shoulders. These are 7th century ragged animals.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2013 at 3:47 PM

I don’t recall seeing that poster before.

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:26 PM

If I remember correctly, he was around during the 2012 election and was a Paul fan.

BTW, I have no problem with the drone strike. It’s his dishonesty that I have a problem with,

Vince on May 29, 2013 at 3:53 PM

You are naive. They’d rather eat sand than keep your head on its shoulders. These are 7th century ragged animals.

Schadenfreude on May 29, 2013 at 3:47 PM

I’m ok with that – let them eat sand…..

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 3:54 PM

profiling.

ted c on May 29, 2013 at 3:55 PM

BTW, I have no problem with the drone strike. It’s his dishonesty that I have a problem with,

Vince on May 29, 2013 at 3:53 PM

I’m with you on that point.
I’ve got no problem with known terrorists being taken out.
It’s Obumble’s hypocrisy and dishonesty that bugs me.

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM

How many number two’s have we killed so far? How come we never blow up an eleven or a thirty-three?

myiq2xu on May 29, 2013 at 2:47 PM


Because the SCOAMF can only roll “snake eyes”!

;->

PolAgnostic on May 29, 2013 at 3:59 PM

warmonger

kirkill on May 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM

…what took him so long?

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 3:01 PM

,
He was waiting till the last butt kissing article was published about his “historic” speech last week.

Those were published yesterday morning so the speech was history

PolAgnostic on May 29, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Muslims have a different definition of Lying than we do.

acyl72 on May 29, 2013 at 4:05 PM

And another expiration date zooms right on by!

catsandbooks on May 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM

warmonger

kirkill on May 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM

I wonder if the Nobel Peace Prize Committee has been having any second thoughts about some of their prior awards……

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Yes, we have to starve them to death. Keep ramping up oil production in the US to kill OPEC.
Don’t send the Muslims money, food or weapons…and don’t let them in your country to get
money, food or weapons.

redguy on May 29, 2013 at 2:59 PM

So that’s why Hussein and his hoodlums want to keep this country dependent on islamic oil and our border unsecured !
Hmmmmm…..

burrata on May 29, 2013 at 4:29 PM

“War is over if you want to” — John Lennon

J_Crater on May 29, 2013 at 2:49 PM

The stupidest thing he ever said after “All you need is love”…

Pest on May 29, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Here’s a catch on that speech by the American Spectator:

Obama’s Sword and Shield

Considering everything we’ve seen from Obama and his administration, this was no coincidence.

In watching President Obama speak on terrorism last week, we were taken aback to hear him say that America needs an anti-terrorism program that is both our sword and our shield. This was a striking choice of words by an American president. Remember the emblem of the KGB? Maybe you don’t, but we do. One of us (Pacepa) spent over two decades working for the KGB community as one of the highest ranking intelligence/military/political officials in the entire Soviet Bloc, and paid with two death sentences for his freedom. The emblem of the KGB was a sword and a shield symbolizing its duties: to put the country’s enemies to the sword, and to shield and protect the communist revolution….

To repeat: the sword and the shield is well known as the KGB’s emblem….

To be sure, this could be simply an eye-opening coincidence by our president….

Unfortunately, we’ve become sadly conditioned — by President Obama himself — to notice these often-bizarre coincidences. This was a man who spent his first term engaging in the most strident class-warfare rhetoric we’ve ever heard from an American president. He demonized profits, corporations, Wall Street, corporate executives and fat-cats, the wealthy, millionaires and billionaires, big oil, big banks, bitter-clingers, while touting wealth redistribution, government stimulus, government management, government centralization, and on and on. Much of this was standard Socialist rhetoric. And then, for his 2012 reelection slogan, the president and his handlers chose the communist world’s old socialist battle cry: “Forward!”

Here’s the Wiki page, if you’re not familiar with the KGB symbol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB

INC on May 29, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Th only thing Obama does well is drone strikes. keep it going O

gerrym51 on May 29, 2013 at 4:48 PM

…there’s several peni$ posters…but they go by the name of HotLips, spermsequestrian, noforeskin, DungBalls, bayingass, and libfreeorgan…why?

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 3:06 PM

I know of all those you mentioned but the following is not cool.

I misspelled it – it’s “paulsur” – I ask because he just left a turd on the Redskins thread.

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:02 PM

And somehow managed to get the n-word through the censor.

nobar on May 29, 2013 at 3:04 PM

VegasRick on May 29, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Just went to that thread, and it appears that Erika cleaned it up. The headline says there are 125 comments, but there are not anywhere near that many.

Del Dolemonte on May 29, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Just went to that thread, and it appears that Erika cleaned it up. The headline says there are 125 comments, but there are not anywhere near that many.

Del Dolemonte on May 29, 2013 at 5:41 PM

I just went there again – and it’s all still there.

dentarthurdent on May 29, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Expect Obama was in bed so didn’t know anything about it until Matt Lauer mentioned it on TV.

virgo on May 30, 2013 at 1:08 AM