Jay Carney: Why yes, the White House is quite satisfied with the IRS revealing basically nothing about this scandal so far

posted at 6:41 pm on May 29, 2013 by Allahpundit

Simple question from Major Garrett: Is the White House happy with the “responsiveness” of the IRS officials who’ve testified thus far? For a thorough analysis of why the answer would, in a sane world, be heavens no, read Guy Benson. For the quick-and-dirty analysis, simply consider the fact that after hearing from former IRS commissioners Steve Miller and Doug Shulman and not hearing from nonprofits chief Lois Lerner, we still don’t have the name of the IRS official who ordered the targeting of tea-party groups. We have guesses, we have theories, we even have Miller helpfully admitting that he was told whodunnit — and then forgot. We have a lot of disdainful smirks and buck-passing from him and Shulman and maybe we have a contempt charge in the making for Lerner after she started talking and then clammed up. We certainly have a lot of lefty commentators chirping in the aftermath that none of this constitutes a scandal. But the only useful info to come out of the hearings thus far that I can recall offhand is the fact that Shulman visited the White House 118 times while he was commissioner. “Is that unusual?” you ask. Yep, extremely:

Mark Everson, who ran the IRS during most of the George W. Bush administration, from 2003 to 2007, apparently visited a single time, grousing that he felt like he had “moved to Siberia” because the tax collection agency was so out of the policy loop.

The alibi the White House has wedded itself to is that it had to work closely with the IRS to implement ObamaCare. But House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., says “it’s hard to believe” the IRS’ abusive targeting of Tea Party and other conservative groups did not enter into the conversations that took place at these meetings, at least “in passing.”

Shulman knew conservative groups were being targeted in spring 2012 and supposedly never once mentioned it to his superiors, despite being at the White House every week or so for years. And now you’re prepared for the latest video highlight from The Most Transparent Administration Ever.

By the way, it occurred to me this morning that I haven’t seen a single report in the past two weeks following up on WaPo’s bombshell-in-the-making about the CIA having asked the AP to hold off on reporting its big classified scoop about Yemen for an extra day even though the threat to national security from publication had already passed. Has Carney been asked to explain that yet? WaPo implied — and not subtly either — that there was no intelligence reason for the CIA to request further delay from the AP. The real reason, it suggested, was that the White House wanted to have a big glorious announcement of the Yemen operation on its own timetable with the presidential election in full swing and the AP was inconveniencing them by running the story a day before they were ready. Has there been even one news story following up on WaPo’s lead since then? Any comment, Jay?


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Any comment, Jay?

“I’d like to announce that I’m leaving to start my exciting new career as a potted plant.”

squint on May 29, 2013 at 6:45 PM

The White House was using the War on Terror for political gain? Wow.

oldroy on May 29, 2013 at 6:46 PM

“I think this administration would be happy if a complete investigation were to be done and finished and ready for release to the public after January 21, 2017.”

-Jay Carney

portlandon on May 29, 2013 at 6:48 PM

“I’d like to announce that I’m leaving to start my exciting new career as a potted plant.”

squint on May 29, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Time magazine might have room for him. One of the headline links toady was to Time doing some reporting about how Libyan weapons and expertise have makde their way to…..Syria. Who knew?

oldroy on May 29, 2013 at 6:48 PM

we still don’t have the name of the IRS official who ordered the targeting of tea-party groups.

Given the fact that non-profits were often also harassed by other agencies (e.g. FBI, EPA) the orders had to come from higher up than the IRS.

Rich H on May 29, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Shulman visited the White House 118 times while he was commissioner

How many times did some of the cabinet secretaries visit the White House?

And remember his jobs council?

rbj on May 29, 2013 at 6:58 PM

I swear, this administration makes the Clinton administration seem forthcoming.

JetBoy on May 29, 2013 at 6:58 PM

It’s a continuing mystery how a culture of unaccountable progressive political activism and corruption cropped up in the Obama administration.

Considering how hard an “outraged” Obama is coming down on those who have the answers and are responsible no one would dare think he approved of what happened.

/sarc

gwelf on May 29, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Hey, let’s give Carney credit.

To an objective observer, could the IRS be said to be cooperating with the Congressional investigation? Not really. But that’s not what Carney was asked. He was asked whether he and the White House were satisfied with the IRS’s level of cooperation.

Carney said that the White House was satisfied with the IRS providing virtually no information to Congress. And I believe that;s true — the White House is indeed satisfied with the IRS providing virtually no information to Congress.

On any day when Carney says something as true as this, we ought to be releasing balloons and confetti to celebrate.

J.S.K. on May 29, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Two IRS officials didn’t know anything about what was going on in their organization and a third took the 5th. And this makes the administration happy?

Wendya on May 29, 2013 at 7:12 PM

…Carney said that the White House was satisfied with the IRS providing virtually no information to Congress. And I believe that;s true — the White House is indeed satisfied with the IRS providing virtually no information to Congress.

On any day when Carney says something as true as this, we ought to be releasing balloons and confetti to celebrate.

J.S.K. on May 29, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Heh. Well said.

Lourdes on May 29, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Two IRS officials didn’t know anything about what was going on in their organization and a third took the 5th. And this makes the administration happy?

Wendya on May 29, 2013 at 7:12 PM

And this makes the administration happy?

Yeeeaaaarrrggghhhh. Howard Dean’s nonsense scream now explained.

Lourdes on May 29, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Does anyone remember how much time, ink and space the media used to directly connect W to Abu Ghraib?

Cindy Munford on May 29, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Does anyone remember how much time, ink and space the media used to directly connect W to Abu Ghraib?

Cindy Munford on May 29, 2013 at 7:14 PM

New York Times ran that story on Page 1 above the fold for 31 days in a row.

But hey, there is no double standard.

Del Dolemonte on May 29, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Ahh, memories

Does anyone remember how much time, ink and space the media used to directly connect W to Abu Ghraib?

Cindy Munford on May 29, 2013 at 7:14 PM

And that moronic association was only one of a whole plethora of similar attempts to connect Bush with anything and everything.

JetBoy on May 29, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Jay Carney: Why yes, the White House is quite satisfied with the IRS revealing basically nothing about this scandal so far

(swallow)

“Well… That clears it up for me!” – Chrissy Matthews

Seven Percent Solution on May 29, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Mark Everson, who ran the IRS during most of the George W. Bush administration, from 2003 to 2007, apparently visited a single time, grousing that he felt like he had “moved to Siberia” because the tax collection agency was so out of the policy loop.

Policy loop?

Axe on May 29, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I am missing Ron Ziegler.

Freddy on May 29, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Everyone in the media is carefully trying to say that there is no evidence Obama knew what the IRS, or the DOJ, or the EPA, or HHS, or CIA, or State, or the military was actually doing at any point in time.

Skipping the obvious question of “Why not?” …

I think the next question should be, “Given how unseriously the President is taking all these things, do you have any reason to believe he doesn’t approve?

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 29, 2013 at 7:25 PM

They’re very happy that so many people are willing to sell themselves out for a cheap grifter.

Bishop on May 29, 2013 at 7:26 PM

At a minimum, any self-respecting WH journalist should expect to get at least a decent dinner before getting so screwed. But, nope, Carney goes right into the sneering condescension without any self-conciousness at all

MTF on May 29, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Given the fact that non-profits were often also harassed by other agencies (e.g. FBI, EPA) the orders had to come from higher up than the IRS.

Rich H on May 29, 2013 at 6:52 PM

This is probably real close who to blame in the Ozero administration.

BigWyo on May 29, 2013 at 7:29 PM

we still don’t have the name of the IRS official who ordered the targeting of tea-party groups.

It wasn’t an IRS official who ordered the targeting.

forest on May 29, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Government Barack Obama is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.

Old Ronald Reagan quote, just slightly edited.

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 29, 2013 at 7:34 PM

For the quick-and-dirty analysis, simply consider the fact that after hearing from former IRS commissioners Steve Miller and Doug Shulman and not hearing from nonprofits chief Lois Lerner, we still don’t have the name of the IRS official who ordered the targeting of tea-party groups.

This is childish. No IRS employee would have ordered the targeting of anyone. Any IRS employee who had done that would have been fired. The orders obviously came from Obama, the same guy who referred to Tea Partiers as teabaggers, and the same guy who has demagogued all opposition. The same guy who sent the DOJ after the media. The same guy who voted for infanticide.

Man up Allahpundit.

Basilsbest on May 29, 2013 at 7:35 PM

But the only useful info to come out of the hearings thus far that I can recall offhand is the fact that Shulman visited the White House 118 times while he was commissioner.

…an he only remembers an Easter Egg hunt!

KOOLAID2 on May 29, 2013 at 8:01 PM

There is this strange odor coming from this thing. How many times did Obama, Biden, and other White House people mention the tea party? How many times did they mention the Koch Brothers? There was an interesting story floating around today about Austen Goolesby putting out a story that Koch Brothers Industries didn’t pay any taxes (sounds a little like the Romney story from Reid) which was proven false. All of this stuff didn’t come from the IRS, it came from the White House and the administration.

Now we find out the IRS was targeting the tea party and doing it in such a way as to inhibit the amound of money the Koch Brothers would funnel into it. This is just one more case where we may never know the truth, but the smell is getting stronger this all eminated from the White House.

Now, people may ask why, which is a logical question. My theory, they never thought the press would figure it out and, if they did, they wouldn’t report it and, for the most part, they were right. The press knew, before the election, and didn’t report it. The funny thing, it makes no difference now, the damage has been done.

bflat879 on May 29, 2013 at 10:02 PM

My theory, they never thought the press would figure it out and, if they did, they wouldn’t report it and, for the most part, they were right.

Yes and they may have counted on “conservative pundits” saying things like
we still don’t have the name of the IRS official who ordered the targeting of tea-party groups.

Basilsbest on May 29, 2013 at 10:48 PM

This administration is the most arrogant, lawless, racist bunch of thugs ever seen in American politics. Huey Long could have taken lessons from this bunch. Carney just gave half this country the finger. Holder lies about Fast n Furious and nothing happens so I guess he thinks that he will skate on anything he does hence the perjury. So far he is right. Killery is up to her eyeteeth in the Benghazi mess and runs to ground. Has Issa called her to testify under oath yet? That would be a no. Obama’s willing lackeys in the MSM won’t even ask about the IRS or BENGHAZI in these press conferences. Thats left up to Fox News. All the MSMers either just sit there stone faced or leave the room. It occurred to me watching the recent Carney pressers that these are the only times I’ve seen the MSM asking him questions. Usually Carney seems to be talking to no one. It also occurred to me that this same bunch were like sharks after chum in a feeding frenzy during GWBs time in office. At this point its a toss up as to whom I detest more, Carney, the MSM, or the Obama administration. Lets just say that if any were drowning I wouldn’t throw them a life raft.

neyney on May 29, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Douglas Shulman, Commissioner of the IRS, visited the White House 118 times in 2 years. That’s more than once per week. What were he and Obama discussing? He claims not to remember. Were they reviewing target lists?

Our intrepid moderator wonders that we still don’t have the name of the IRS official who ordered the targeting of tea-party groups as if some IRS employee created this program of harrassment on her own.

Basilsbest on May 29, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Does anyone remember how much time, ink and space the media used to directly connect W to Abu Ghraib?

Cindy Munford on May 29, 2013 at 7:14 PM

As much as I hate to give the press any reason to rationalize, BG Karpinski aided them a get deal. Her interviews insinuating and outright blaming higher echelons gave them a lot of fuel for their fires.

smoothsailing on May 30, 2013 at 7:29 AM

“why yes, we are quite satisfied that nothing untoward is going on there. We really don’t know why the area has such a putrid smell and screams or terror and pain at all hours of the day”.

Goebbels talking about Auscwitz.

The german media and press was every bit as good as ours is today.

acyl72 on May 30, 2013 at 8:26 AM