Did the White House approve McCain’s photo op with the Syrian rebels?

posted at 4:01 pm on May 28, 2013 by Allahpundit

They were “aware” of the visit, as you’ll see below, but being “aware” and approving of it are two different things. I’ll give Maverick the benefit of the doubt and assume that he wouldn’t have taken a little propaganda trip against the White House’s wishes, no matter how pro-rebel (or rather, pro-interventionist) he is, at a moment when O’s sweating out a decision on whether to do more in Syria. The fact remains, though, whether Obama-approved or not, his trip was propaganda. Via Roll Call, here’s a glimpse from a recent Dexter Filkins piece in the New Yorker of the rebels who are doing most of the fighting while McCain was being glad-handed yesterday:

In recent months, with urging from the U.S. and its allies, a large number of the estimated seventy thousand rebel fighters have been brought together under a joint military command, a coalition of thirty armed groups, which American officials imagine as a nascent national army. The joint command, based just inside Turkey, is led by General Salim Idris, a high-ranking defector from Assad’s regime. Proponents of greater aid for the rebels have suggested that arms and money be sent through Idris, to solidify his command. A senior American official who works on Syria policy said that approximately half of the money now flowing to the rebels goes through the joint command, and that Idris has begun to coördinate operations. “This is a war of attrition, and the government is losing,’’ the official said. “It doesn’t mean it is going to collapse tomorrow, but the trend lines are negative.”

Obama has made clear, however, that he has little confidence in the rebels, arguing that they are ideologically fractured, that the rebellion lacks a coherent structure, and that individual groups would be impossible to control and would probably fight each other. Some of the guns, he believes, could ultimately make their way to Islamist groups. Idris has pointedly excluded some extremists from the coalition, including Al Nusra and another collection of hard-line Islamist groups, the Syrian Islamic Front. (Al Nusra, for its part, never asked to join up.) But, according to American officials and nongovernmental groups that work in the region, the overwhelming majority of the rebels are fighting for an Islamic republic. Al Nusra, like the other Al Qaeda affiliates, wants to do away with the Syrian state altogether and reëstablish the Islamic caliphate. “The Islamists are the majority,’’ Elizabeth O’Bagy, an analyst for the Institute for the Study of War who has travelled to rebel-held areas several times, said. The small number of non-Islamists among the rebels are often socialists, she told me, and are referred to by their peers with an English word: “hippies.”

There is a cold-blooded argument to be made for arming the rebels, now more than ever and despite their Islamist tendencies: Hezbollah’s going all-in on Syria, and the more well-armed Sunni nuts there are to greet them there, the better the chances are of a massive jihadi bloodletting on both sides. There may not be much time left either, as Assad’s forces — with Hezbollah’s help — have reportedly turned the tide in key areas that are vital to their supply routes. The better they do this month, the more leverage they’ll have at the big “peace” conference next month. McCain could, if he chose, press the point that if our enemies are willing to kill each other, we should do what we can to make sure the fight goes on for as long as possible, but the effect of yesterday’s photo op is the opposite. He wants Americans to believe that there’s some significant element of Syrian rebels who are budding U.S. allies and that they’re sufficiently formidable and well organized to be able to host a U.S. senator inside Syria. (In fact, McCain’s visit was held just on the other side of the border with Turkey.) Less than a month ago, the Guardian reported that members of the moderate-ish Free Syrian Army were becoming radicalized and defecting en masse to jihadist rebel factions like Jabhat al-Nusra. A few days before that, the New York Times reported, “Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.” That’s the reality belied by McCain’s stunt, presumably undertaken with the White House’s blessing, to mislead the public into thinking there just might be an American friend in the making somewhere inside the maelstrom.

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….they’re senile too!…who can remember!

KOOLAID2 on May 28, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Did the White House approve McCain’s photo op with the Syrian rebels?

…WHAT? ….WHEN?

KOOLAID2 on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

I hope:

1. That McVain switches parties, or

2. Actually switches countries, or

3. Your call

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Let them kill each other, and let the EU move in to provide aid and recovery — all without a penny from US taxpayers.

Approved by Obama or not, McCain is an idiot. I bet he thinks by now the NVA really weren’t shooting at him.

Liam on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Maybe he thought they were Mexicans? I don’t know.

Oil Can on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Did the White House approve McCain’s photo op with the Syrian rebels?

Of course! Al Qaeda the Syrian Rebels are the good guys!

– zer0bama

UltimateBob on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

….what’s Rino doing?

KOOLAID2 on May 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM

His father and grandfather hate the punk, from their graves.

What a disgrace both senators are to AZ!

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Read about it in the paper like everyone else

forest on May 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM

OF. COURSE. IT. DID.

Resist We Much on May 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM

I hope:

1. That McVain switches parties, or

2. Actually switches countries, or

3. Your call

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Switches celestial bodies, soon as private companies build and start making regular flights to a moon base.

Liam on May 28, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Yes. Benghazi was all about giving them guns. McCain is just doing it in the light rather than under the cover of bureaucracy.

nobar on May 28, 2013 at 4:07 PM

…Senator Senile thought they were Vietnamese!…What?

KOOLAID2 on May 28, 2013 at 4:07 PM

How many camels can McCain sell his daughter for?

Blake on May 28, 2013 at 4:08 PM

McCain is a clown.

Robert_Paulson on May 28, 2013 at 4:09 PM

How could the White House approve of the photo op? They wouldn’t even know about it until after the pictures were printed in the morning paper.

DrAllecon on May 28, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Hear that, it’s the sound of inevitability the Israeli Air Force warming up.

Bishop on May 28, 2013 at 4:11 PM

I’ll give Maverick the benefit of the doubt

I won’t.
He is a Shoomer’s Republican

burrata on May 28, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Check out the guy in the photo with McCain.

Did they dig up one of the bad guys from, the movie
Bruce Lee, Enter the Dragon??

ToddPA on May 28, 2013 at 4:12 PM

When dems did this crap during a Bush presidency it infuriated me (Clinton and Carter both did it at least once) . I’m just as mad at this nonsense. This is a stupid PR stunt. Just let Ogabe drown in his own vomit of a foreign policy.

kpguru on May 28, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I won’t.
He is a Shoomer’s Republican

burrata on May 28, 2013 at 4:11 PM

He’s a Choomer-n-Shoomer Republican.

:-)

Resist We Much on May 28, 2013 at 4:17 PM

He needs to go away like yesterday. I can’t believe I held my nose and voted for this idiot. In a way I’m glad he didn’t win cause God only knows where he would be starting wars. Not that Obama is any better, but this guy is chewing with his teeth out.

NJ Red on May 28, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Useful idiot.

Rational Thought on May 28, 2013 at 4:17 PM

How many camels can McCain sell his daughter for?

Half a pack of unfiltered if he’s lucky.

myiq2xu on May 28, 2013 at 4:19 PM

McCain is a clown.

Robert_Paulson on May 28, 2013 at 4:09 PM

This was our nominee. Thank goodness we didn’t vote for that Palin woman.

faraway on May 28, 2013 at 4:20 PM

McCain wants to stay relevant, be in front of the cameras and secure his place in history and doesn’t care who gets killed in the process.

He truly has morphed into the Humphrey Bogart character in the Caine Mutiny.

bw222 on May 28, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Every dude in that pic is thinking the same thing: “I would love to hack off this American’s head while screaming Alahu Ackbar.”

Bishop on May 28, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Obama: Welcome back, John.
McCain: Thank you, sir. It was a rough mission.
Obama: Yes, the last place you needed to end your career was in the Damascus Hilton. What do you think I should do?
McCain: You should arm the Syrian al Qaeda, I mean the Syrian freedom fighters.
Obama: No need to mince words with me, John, we know who butters our bread.
McCain: Yes, and the Saudis are none too pleased with our reluctance to go all in against Assad and the Iranians, I mean the Syrians.
Obama: I’ve been distracted by what your party insists on calling scandals, John.
McCain: Yes, Mr President, I know. Thanks to that disastrous VP pick of mine, Sarah Pain in the Neck, we’ve got some wacko-birds. But don’t worry, Lindsey and Marco and I will put a stop to all of it. Look what Lyndsey did for Bill Clinton and how Marco is point man on removing those pesky borders.
Obama: Thanks, John, I appreciate that. Lindsey and Marco both know I love them. I have photos for proof. Thanks for the report. You’re dismissed.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on May 28, 2013 at 4:21 PM

oops McCain clown

faraway on May 28, 2013 at 4:21 PM

How many camels can McCain sell his daughter for?

Blake on May 28, 2013 at 4:08 PM

One 2 humper and you get change back.

faraway on May 28, 2013 at 4:21 PM

McCain calls Limited government Conservatives who disagree with him “Whacko Birds” and “Hobbits”…….

….but he’s fine meeting with enemies sworn to use the sword on Western Civilization and bring it to it’s knees.

Thank you Arizona for the two complete losers you elected to the Senate.

Is that the best your state could come up with?

PappyD61 on May 28, 2013 at 4:21 PM

There is a cold-blooded argument to be made for arming the rebels, now more than ever and despite their Islamist tendencies: Hezbollah’s going all-in on Syria, and the more well-armed Sunni nuts there are to greet them there, the better the chances are of a massive jihadi bloodletting on both sides

That’s the only argument for arming the rebels.

rbj on May 28, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Resist We Much on May 28, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Wow! Wish I had skipped this….

Barred on May 28, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Maybe he thought they were Mexicans? I don’t know.

Oil Can on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

FTW!

nukemhill on May 28, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Did the White House approve McCain’s photo op with the Syrian rebels?

They do not know. And they won’t know until it’s safe to know. And then they’ll deny that they knew. Then they’ll deny their denial.

Then a creeping sense of regret will set in like a nasty rash …

LetsBfrank on May 28, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Useful idiotINFIDEL.

Rational Thought on May 28, 2013 at 4:17 PM

FIFY :-)

Resist We Much on May 28, 2013 at 4:23 PM

O.k, in all seriousness, is the guy standing next to McCain
the one who ate a man’s Heart??

ToddPA on May 28, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Wow! Wish I had skipped this….

Barred on May 28, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Sorry, but people need to know the truth. THOSE are the people that we are siding with and arming.

Just say no to Syria!

“So Long Muslim World, And Thanks For All The Fish!”

Resist We Much on May 28, 2013 at 4:25 PM

ToddPA on May 28, 2013 at 4:23 PM

He started to…but, he left it in San Franciso.

kingsjester on May 28, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Well well well … Vietnam War Hero finds himself posing with rebels in photo op reminescent of Jane Fonda.

The world turned upside down …

HondaV65 on May 28, 2013 at 4:27 PM

The only person John McCain ever cared about is himself. Cindy is there for the financial support and with Meghan the condom failed.

bw222 on May 28, 2013 at 4:27 PM

I hope:

1. That McVain switches parties, or

2. Actually switches countries, or

3. Your call

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Door number three, Alex.

VorDaj on May 28, 2013 at 4:28 PM

McCain is a miracle of idiocy. When he isn’t going to bat for foreign criminals here he is trying to get us involved in more useless wars overseas on the behalf of people who hate us. Absolutely one of the dumbest politicians in human history.

echosyst on May 28, 2013 at 4:28 PM

So here is what we know :
1. Hussein and Holder run guns for drug cartels and jihad.

2. Hussein is phone buddies with Turkish Cardigan

3. Hussein’s sends his people in the Turkish flotilla to arm jihadys

4. Ambassador Stevens met with Turkish Ambassador in Benghazi

5. 4 Americas died after the Turk left

6. Hussein lets them die

7. When Benghazi comes under investigation, the Turkish Cardigan comes running to the White House

8. McCain , Hussein’s left hand man, runs to Turkey /Syria to assure alqaeda in Turkey that guns and money will keep flowing to them, although the supply line from Benghazi is kindda closed
( wink wink)

So , why is McCain aiding and abetting alqaeda at the behest of Hussein ? Do we know that yet ? I’m sure it’s not because he is a senile fool , so WHY ?

burrata on May 28, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Well well well … Vietnam War Hero finds himself posing with rebels in photo op reminescent of Jane Fonda.

The world turned upside down …

HondaV65 on May 28, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Was McCain a hero or just a lousy pilot?

bw222 on May 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM

The world turned upside down alright. Christians in Syria are saying “Thank God for Russia”.

VorDaj on May 28, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Eating the heart of a dead man, huh? We should give those guys whatever they want; tanks, planes, advanced weaponry of every sort.

Bishop on May 28, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Was McCain a hero or just a lousy pilot?

bw222 on May 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Both?

HondaV65 on May 28, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Was McCain a hero or just a lousy pilot?

bw222 on May 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM

The only thing that keeps him from officially being a North Vietnamese ace is that he was flying for our side.

Liam on May 28, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Aw shoot, I was hoping he would have been all cammied up with a scarf around his head. Where was Lindsay while poppa bear was away?

arnold ziffel on May 28, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Resist We Much on May 28, 2013 at 4:25 PM

No, I know you are right. Just Damn! Bookmarked it to make sure I have it for my Senators and Representative.

Barred on May 28, 2013 at 4:35 PM

McCain is worse than “fundamentally flawed” in the political sense. There has always been something very wrong with his character, which is one of extreme “me-first-and-only” self-entitlement. He was wrongfully admitted to the Naval Academy with bad grades ahead of more qualified applicants because his daddy and granddaddy were admirals. Rules that apply to ordinary people don’t apply to him. He thumbed his nose at Annapolis because he couldn’t be kicked out or flunked out, because he was JOHN MCCAIN, son and grandson of ADMIRALS. He ignored orders and crashed planes, because he couldn’t be disciplined as the son and grandson of admirals. He ditched the wife who stood by him, when he wanted a rich blonde chick young enough to be his daughter, who could finance his political ambition.

He was caught taking bribes to his wife from the Keating 5, so tried to cover his tracks by imposing the McCain-Feingold nonsense on everyone else (laws only apply to everyone else, not to JOHN MCCAIN). He entertained a blonde lobbyist in ways that worried his staff, and improperly pressured the FCC for her in exchange for …., because he is JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!!. He yelled obscenities at other senators who questioned ramming his McCain-Kennedy amnesty through the Senate in the dead of night without debate, and screamed he knew more about it than anyone else – because he is JOHN MCCAIN, a legend in his own mind !!!!!! He has had secret no press allowed meetings to praise Mexico as our dearest friend and closest neighbor, calling enforcement of the laws “Rhetoric”.

As president, McCain, like the man he helped elect. Barack Obama, would have tried to rule by fiat and would make Hugo Chavez look like George Washington. Like the Alice in Wonderland Queen of Hearts, if any GOP congresscritter disagreed with him “OFF WITH HER HEAD- I’m JOHN MCCAIN, KING OF THE UNIVERSE!!!” There has always been something consistently very wrong with McCain’s character. Through it all, this lying unreliable self-aggrandizing megalomaniac poses as a “straight talker”, and is so sick, he probably believes it himself, because he is JOHN MCCAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!, son and grandson of ADMIRALS.

RasThavas on May 28, 2013 at 4:36 PM

McCain and Graham planning the Syrian Revolution.

…and Methodists.

Curtiss on May 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM

McCain was just “returning a favor”:

From the BBC, in 2008:

Supporters of al-Qaeda have said they would prefer Republican candidate John McCain to win the US election because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In a message broadcast on the password-protected al-Hesbah site, the group said they would also welcome a pre-election terror attack on the US because that would make a McCain win more likely.

In an endorsement that will not be welcomed by Mr McCain’s flagging campaign, the group said that if al-Qaeda wants to exhaust the US, militarily and economically, the “impetuous” Republican presidential candidate is the better choice.

“This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier,” the message said.

“Then, al-Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush.”

“If al-Qaeda carries out a big operation against American interests,” it said, “this act will be support of McCain because it will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda then will succeed in exhausting America till its last year in it.”

kingsjester on May 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM

I’d probably rather live under sharia law than under marxist obamaism law. The only good outcome is that they all kill each other.

Buddahpundit on May 28, 2013 at 4:43 PM

burrata on May 28, 2013 at 4:28 PM

All roads lead to Turkey. You are dead on to point all these links out. McCain is either an idiot or he is doing his best to try to provide some cover for the shitstorm in Benghazi. There is no way that him and Graham and others in the Senate intelligence committees weren’t aware of guns going to AQ through Libya. Pure CYA mixed in with high Kabuki theatre.

can_con on May 28, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Was McCain a hero or just a lousy pilot?

bw222 on May 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM

McCain crashed like 8 planes and finished at the bottom of his class.

He also never met with vets in the 80′s trying to find MIA guys in Vietnam.

You make the call.

tetriskid on May 28, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Eating the heart of a dead man, huh? We should give those guys whatever they want; tanks, planes, advanced weaponry of every sort.

Bishop on May 28, 2013 at 4:30 PM

and a Fork.

ToddPA on May 28, 2013 at 4:44 PM

I bet that McCain was over there doing the bidding of Obama.

Helping the Muslim Brotherhood take over another country ala Egypt and Libya.

Only problem is Russia is backing Assad, so we are in the middle of a proxy war. What the hell is wrong with these people?

Amjean on May 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM

John McCain
Juan McVain
Jamal Al-Maeada

Oil Can on May 28, 2013 at 4:48 PM

pelosi didn’t give a crap when she went to kiss assads arse, why should this matter?

At least mccain’s doing SOMETHING. unlike the wun dat one.

RealMc on May 28, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Zeus must have been napping when Obama opined about the risk of weapons ultimately getting into the hands of Islamists.

This is merely planting the concept into the minds of the public so when all these missing weapons from Libya turn up in use by Islamists, they can all conflate and merge the two different situations.

Benghazi and Syria are one in the same.

can_con on May 28, 2013 at 4:57 PM

and a Fork.

ToddPA on May 28, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Then we’d have to send in ‘trainers’ to teach the savages what a fork is for and how to use it.

Just not worth the effort.

Solaratov on May 28, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Was McCain a hero or just a lousy pilot?

bw222 on May 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Yes.

Hayabusa on May 28, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Look at what you clowns voted for.

“He is a war hero!” “He is good on the war!” “He was for the surge!” “He will protect us” “Who cares if the is a RINO?”

Foolish neocon clowns.

nottakingsides on May 28, 2013 at 5:01 PM

O.K., the “woman” W.H. communications Jennifer Palmieri?

Is she related to Gina McCarthy by chance?

Christ, she’s scarier than the guys standing with McCain.

ToddPA on May 28, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Did the White House approve McCain’s photo op with the Syrian rebels?

That’d explain McCain’s woody.

socalcon on May 28, 2013 at 5:12 PM

At least mccain’s doing SOMETHING. unlike the wun dat one.

RealMc on May 28, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Why should he/we being doing ANYTHING?

Resist We Much on May 28, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Stupid

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2013 at 5:16 PM

I think the Viet Cong did flip McShame

redguy on May 28, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Is it wrong for me to ask, how funny would it be if McCain became a POW in Syria?

Rixon on May 28, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Stupid

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Posting right now at AOSHQ with the usual vulgar and funny commentary…

Rixon on May 28, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Dhimmi is what you are to the rebels (a useful idiot), DOLT is what we call you.

jake49 on May 28, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Stupid

Schadenfreude on May 28, 2013 at 5:16 PM

and spot on…

kirkill on May 28, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Dhimmi is what you are to the rebels (a useful idiot), DOLT is what we call you.

jake49 on May 28, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Every time I see the word “dhimmi” I think of The Exorcist.

Rixon on May 28, 2013 at 5:45 PM

I’ll give Maverick the benefit of the doubt

RINO.

/s

cs89 on May 28, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Can we establish a No-Fly Zone around McCain?

Mister Ghost on May 28, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Next thing you know McCain will be sneaking over the Mexican border palling around with drug gangs, promising them he’ll oppose MJ legalization to protect their market.

FloatingRock on May 28, 2013 at 6:18 PM

RasThavas on May 28, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Well said

McCain crashed like 8 planes and finished at the bottom of his class.

He also never met with vets in the 80′s trying to find MIA guys in Vietnam.

You make the call.

tetriskid on May 28, 2013 at 4:43 PM

You are correct how he erased the MIAs. Although he wears his own not MIA like a badge of honor.

It is difficult to distinguish between Kerry, and McCain. They run on hubris

entagor on May 28, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Once again, “useful idiot” AMNESTY-JOHN makes me embarrassed to be a resident of Arizona (NB: I have NEVER voted for this traitor and NEVER will.) After helping OBOZO get his islamofascist pals al qaeda / muslim brotherhood / hamas in power in Libya, McRINO is now helping our Muslim-in-Chief do the same in Syria. AMNESTY-JOHN is not only a disgrace to Arizona, he’s a disgrace to America and the rest of the free world (or what’s left of it).

TeaPartyNation on May 28, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Somewhere in VN there is an empty tiger cage that could have saved us so much trouble.

tom daschle concerned on May 28, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Hi, I’m John McCain and I support these Jihadists. Won’t you buy my product?

Rode Werk on May 28, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Oh who cares- the treasonous father of a squealing fat pig!!!

frank on May 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Violation of Separation of Powers and the Logan Act… McCain commits Felony.

Kaptain Amerika on May 28, 2013 at 9:11 PM

If he wants a State Dept. job he needs to retire from the august Senate.

SouthernGent on May 28, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Obama needs McCain to provide ambiguous support for his ambivalent strategy. The main benefit of his support is that the president can blame him for anything that goes wrong and attach bi-partisan intentions to it. Well done, John! You picked another winning issue!

It would be better for the US to concentrate on undermining Iran and their various client terrorist states.

Oh, yes, and what are we going to do about Saudi Arabia now that the Old Saud has been in a suspiciously long snooze? Should we be arming Wahabi rebels there too?

I guess “Smart Power” left the State Department when Hillary passed on the official whitewash brush to Lerch Kerry.

virgo on May 28, 2013 at 11:48 PM

What the hel-l is wrong with the people in Arizona??

stenwin77 on May 29, 2013 at 6:02 AM

The geezer globetrotter from Arizoner.

Sherman1864 on May 29, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Can we establish a No-Fly Zone around McCain?
Mister Ghost on May 28, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Does that mean we can’t drone him, bro?

Sherman1864 on May 29, 2013 at 8:47 AM