Does that Gibson Guitar raid make more sense now?

posted at 11:01 am on May 26, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

An editorial at Investors Business Daily may wind up being filed under how did I miss this one? Following the recent revelations of cases where the administration appears to have used the muscle of the federal government to go after its political enemies, IBD takes a walk down memory lane to the strange case of Gibson Guitars and the federal raids on their facilities for alleged illegal importing of exotic woods used in their products. They reach one provocative conclusion.

The inexplicable raid nearly two years ago on a guitar maker for using allegedly illegal wood that its competitors also used was another targeting by this administration of its political enemies…

Interestingly, one of Gibson’s leading competitors is C.F. Martin & Co. According to C.F. Martin’s catalog, several of their guitars contain “East Indian Rosewood,” which is the exact same wood in at least 10 of Gibson’s guitars. So why were they not also raided and their inventory of foreign wood seized?

Well, let’s see… maybe C.F. Martin was getting their supplies from a properly regulated source? No. Did they fill out some forms that Gibson forgot to submit? No… so what could it be?

Grossly underreported at the time was the fact that Gibson’s chief executive, Henry Juszkiewicz, contributed to Republican politicians. Recent donations have included $2,000 to Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., and $1,500 to Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn.

By contrast, Chris Martin IV, the Martin & Co. CEO, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the Democratic National Committee over the past couple of election cycles.

“We feel that Gibson was inappropriately targeted,” Juszkiewicz said at the time, adding the matter “could have been addressed with a simple contact (from) a caring human being representing the government. Instead, the government used violent and hostile means.”

The end of that story was a travesty, with Gibson being forced to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in a settlement where there was no finding of criminal action just so they could get back to business. At the time of the judgement, our own Mary Katharine Ham covered the story and found a lot wrong with it, but even she didn’t seem to suspect this situation. And in retrospect, it doesn’t seem all that surprising.

While all this was going on, there was plenty of reason to suspect that there was politics of some sort involved. With Democrats in control of the White House and the Senate, it didn’t seem much of a stretch to think that the eco-warriors were in full throated, chest thumping mode and they would be pushing the limits to show how much they were doing to save the planet. The Gibson story, with its hook of endangered forests and evil manufacturing giants stripping the land, was a perfect fit. But I don’t think many of us imagined that even the Obama administration would be so blatant as to simply launch a police state style attack on a company which supported their enemies while leaving friendly, Democrat donating competitors alone. Or at least I didn’t.

Is this paranoid, tinfoil hat territory? I assure you that Obama supporters reading this will declare it to be exactly that. But given what we’ve been finding in the news recently, is it really that far fetched? Not any more.


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the gibson v martin political contributions were reported at the very beginning. i have no idea how you missed it.

jlw on May 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Need more whistleblowers. Someone in law enforcement knows if this was a targeted action based on politics.

Aplombed on May 26, 2013 at 11:08 AM

It’s not tin foil hat territory, Democrat politicians and their operatives are scum.

Cindy Munford on May 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Sue them! You now have your proof. Take this all the way to SCOTUS if you have to. Same for the GM dealerships that were shut down.

neyney on May 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Well done. This is a criminally corrupt government. DOJ and State are the worst, but IRS has become part of the machinery of political hackery used by Democrats with their ASFCME union thugs and legion of government-money-addicted zombies.

Jaibones on May 26, 2013 at 11:12 AM

i have no idea how you missed it.

jlw on May 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM

The news was reported at 8:37 instead of 8:30. Jazz, out of principle, could not watch it.

lorien1973 on May 26, 2013 at 11:18 AM

When the thieves control the police and the courts, your options are limited.

RoadRunner on May 26, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Behind the ‘hope n change’ mask, this is the face of fascism.

locomotivebreath1901 on May 26, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Yesterday’s tin is today’s headline. Nothing is tin as long as this administration is in power.

voiceofreason on May 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Is this paranoid, tinfoil hat territory? I assure you that Obama supporters reading this will declare it to be exactly that. But given what we’ve been finding in the news recently, is it really that far fetched? Not any more.

That’s right. Not any more.

And one year from now, what current accusation that is flatly denied by the left as paranoia will be added to the list of things that can’t be denied any more.

Curtiss on May 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

The news was reported at 8:37 instead of 8:30. Jazz, out of principle, could not watch it.

lorien1973 on May 26, 2013 at 11:18 AM

No, the editorial was posted at 8:37. The news broke months ago.

RoadRunner on May 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Shocking..

/

Key West Reader on May 26, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Roger Hedgecock reported this story as it came out and explained it as the Chicago thuggery that it is. Glad you’re covering this now, Jazz. Better late than never. It should not be forgotten, because it is one of the pieces of a larger, more ominous puzzle.

All of this reminds me very much of Nixon (except that it’s worse). This is real sludge, and it’s scary.

Burke on May 26, 2013 at 11:21 AM

I think this Memorial Day we need a memorial to the government that was.

Limerick on May 26, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Is this paranoid, tinfoil hat territory? I assure you that Obama supporters reading this will declare it to be exactly that. But given what we’ve been finding in the news recently, is it really that far fetched? Not any more.

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There were mentions of the donations angle back when this happened… though I don’t remember Martin being part of the story. Many of US always thought that Barry, or at least his drones in the public sector were playing at this level of unethical/illegal.

Re… Joe the Plumber. Very public attack based on abused access to private citizenry records. Many of US expected that this would become SOP for Barry’s sycophants…

And I long ago stopped expecting Obama’s supporters to believe anything other than that he is their guy, and that what ever it takes to maintain/increase his power is all good.

RalphyBoy on May 26, 2013 at 11:23 AM

What about the Chrysler dealerships?

joekenha on May 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM

And one year from now, what current accusation that is flatly denied by the left as paranoia will be added to the list of things that can’t be denied any more.

Curtiss on May 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

This is happening constantly lately. The left (and some on the right) accuse Conservatives of being paranoid and also shut up! Then, when the evidence of malicious intent does come to the surface, the left tries to dismiss it as not a big deal and also shut up!

SagebrushPuppet on May 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM

NOT a coincidence.

TX-96 on May 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM

All of this reminds me very much of Nixon (except that it’s worse). This is real sludge, and it’s scary.

Burke on May 26, 2013 at 11:21 AM

At least Nixon had the good grace to resign.

SagebrushPuppet on May 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM

“Is this paranoid, tinfoil hat territory?”

Absolutely not. I’d say it’s a reasonable though shocked assessment of exactly what the POS has enabled his crew at various government agencies to do. Destroy the Republicans.

Just as he has been doing with FOX news after proclaiming that intention early in his reign.

Anyone who questions the POS is to be silenced by any means necessary.
What’s that saying about telling a lie (or committing an act) so outrageous, so over-the-top that no one would believe it?

The POS is following Goebbels’ and Alinsky’s playbooks.

wyntre9 on May 26, 2013 at 11:32 AM

“I don’t care, Obama is awesome”

“What difference does it make?”

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Remember the David Gregory gun magazine deal?

This is interesting:

NY injured special forces soldier takes plea for same offense on which David Gregory walked
Posted by William A. Jacobson Friday, May 24, 2013 at 5:00pm

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/05/ny-injured-special-forces-soldier-takes-plea-for-same-offense-on-which-david-gregory-walked//#more

CW on May 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

” . . .in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”

Mein Kamph

wyntre9 on May 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM

CW on May 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

David Gregory employed the “Good Intentions” clause.

Curtiss on May 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM

But I don’t think many of us imagined that even the Obama administration would be so blatant as to simply launch a police state style attack on a company which supported their enemies while leaving friendly, Democrat donating competitors alone. Or at least I didn’t.

I did.

ladyingray on May 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM

You’re not paranoid if they REALLY ARE out to get you.

fastphil101 on May 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM

But I don’t think many of us imagined that even the Obama administration would be so blatant as to simply launch a police state style attack on a company which supported their enemies while leaving friendly, Democrat donating competitors alone. Or at least I didn’t.

Ah. That’s the JazzShaw we know and love. Just like Mr. Morrissey, always giving the demcrats a sliver of a window of a chance of being upstanding humans. Hint: They’re not. Assume the worst and expect the worst from those cretins.

SouthernGent on May 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Sue them! You now have your proof. Take this all the way to SCOTUS if you have to. Same for the GM dealerships that were shut down.

neyney on May 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM

oh YES!

KOOLAID2 on May 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM

When was this raid?

It was a long time ago, and I knew exactly what it was then.

You are just now getting it?

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM

CW on May 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Interesting the AG Ronald Machen, Holder’s BFF, was involved both in the David Gregory illegal possession of large magazines case AND the AP-DOJ snooping case.

wyntre9 on May 26, 2013 at 11:46 AM

But I don’t think many of us imagined that even the Obama administration would be so blatant as to simply launch a police state style attack on a company which supported their enemies while leaving friendly, Democrat donating competitors alone

This is what I always thought from Day One of this story…even before the hunt for some kind of eco crime was waved as a red herring to distract from the obvious corruption.

I never thought the story could be read any other way…even by the incurably naive.

The stench from the corruption within the Obama maladministration and its war on the US and its law-abiding citizens is becoming unbearable!!!

landlines on May 26, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Petty tribalism.

Count to 10 on May 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM

DOJ hits Gibson with $300K fine in settlement over exotic wood raids
posted at 1:21 pm on August 7, 2012 by Mary Katharine Ham

Slow news day? Methinks an update would have sufficed.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on May 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Grossly underreported at the time was the fact that Gibson’s chief executive, Henry Juszkiewicz, contributed to Republican politicians.

This was being discussed on all the conservative (and pseudo-conservative) blogs. There was no question, at the time, that the Gibson raid was purely political. I’m not sure why anyone thinks this is news. We all knew this just as we all knew the same thing about the illegal and clearly political way the GM dealerships were closed. The midget girl on Fox and Friends was yapping about this for a while because her family had one of the dealerships that was closed. I don’t believe there was a single person on Earth who didn’t know that it was all an underhanded, illegal Barky dictat made to “punish his enemies and reward his friends”. Everything Barky’s done has been along those lines and most of his actions have been illegal and impeachable.

It wasn’t that the Gibson raid and the political leanings of Gibson was unknown (or even underreported any more than anything else) but that the GOP was too cowardly to say or do anything and it was all part of a tsunami of similar criminal acts by the Indonesian with the 84 IQ and the magic skin.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Expect the worst from the 0bama regime and you will never be wrong.

jukin3 on May 26, 2013 at 11:53 AM

…let Jay take his Carnival questions on this one?…the next time the politburo press wants to see Carney dance!

KOOLAID2 on May 26, 2013 at 11:55 AM

There must be some kinda forcefield that blocks out reality that surrounds NY. In a coddled eggs world, evil is non-existant.

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Jazz; HA proprietors should review the threads on the Gibson story at the time – I think you’ll find that this was discussed by HA posters as a probably motive. Remember, at the time this wasn’t unheard of – there had been conservative/Republican-supporting car dealers that had lost their dealerships, while liberal-supporting car dealers did not, etc.

Midas on May 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM

But I don’t think many of us imagined that even the Obama administration would be so blatant as to simply launch a police state style attack on a company which supported their enemies while leaving friendly, Democrat donating competitors alone. Or at least I didn’t.

“Welcome to the party, pal.”

Midas on May 26, 2013 at 11:58 AM

But I don’t think many of us imagined that even the Obama administration would be so blatant as to simply launch a police state style attack on a company which supported their enemies while leaving friendly, Democrat donating competitors alone. Or at least I didn’t.

Goodness gracious, you bloggers should read the comment section of your own blog. Many, many commenters linked the political contributions of the owners to Dems/Reps and connected the dots. I am almost flabbergasted you just now put this together.

cptacek on May 26, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Jazz; HA proprietors should review the threads on the Gibson story at the time – I think you’ll find that this was discussed by HA posters as a probably motive. Remember, at the time this wasn’t unheard of – there had been conservative/Republican-supporting car dealers that had lost their dealerships, while liberal-supporting car dealers did not, etc.

Midas on May 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Ha!!! I swear I didn’t read yours before I posted :)

cptacek on May 26, 2013 at 12:02 PM

If I remember correctly DHS & DOJ were siezing web domains around then.

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 12:02 PM

I’m sure Chimp Threads will be along momentarily to accuse us of rear mongering…

Del Dolemonte on May 26, 2013 at 12:03 PM

I’m sure Chimp Threads will be along momentarily to accuse us of fear mongering…

Del Dolemonte on May 26, 2013 at 12:03 PM

FIFM

F-

Del Dolemonte on May 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Unless the IRS is dismantled, the left will continue to use it as a weapon even if the GOP end up in power.

How? They will claim the same thing the conservatives are with the exception that there won’t be targeting. Then they will demand a stop to all non profit audits of all progressive groups.

See how the left work? There are never enough crisis’ to waste and never enough angles to view them from.

katy on May 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Not really new, Jazz.

As for tinfoil? This is the administration that vowed to “reward our friends and punish our enemies”. What is so outlandish about recognizing a situation in which that in fact happened?

UnrepentantCurmudgeon on May 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Midas on May 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Yup. And the bulk of car dealerships that were shut down were run by registered Republicans.

katy on May 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM

They were siezing folks instruments at airports too Jazz.

This site has search capability.

They call it research.

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Aug.30,2011,, Tina Korbe.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/30/another-interesting-tidbit-in-the-gibson-guitar-saga/

Using a keyword you supplied, Jazz.

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM

I’m sure Chimp Threads will be along momentarily to accuse us of rear mongering…

Del Dolemonte on May 26, 2013 at 12:03 PM

…I’m afraid that this wasn’t a preview problem…and you are again…correct!

KOOLAID2 on May 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM

So many people have forgotten how all this works – if the Left does it, it is righteous and good. If its done by the Right, it is FASCISM. That is why we are incorrect to compare Obama to Nixon. Get with the program, people.

famous amos on May 26, 2013 at 12:17 PM

When the White House is run by dirty Chicago pols, nothing is surprising anymore.

Philly on May 26, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Barrack Hussein NixØn.

ExpressoBold on May 26, 2013 at 12:19 PM

We were all over it Mr.Shaw. google hotair gibson guitars.

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/09/01/gibson-guitars-rips-feds-for-raid-over-wood/

We all saw it.

You should read the comments here more. You might learn something.

Go ahead. Google. Read. And understand why some would find this submission laughable.

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 12:19 PM

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 12:19 PM

…*whispers*…(take it easy!)
(:->)

KOOLAID2 on May 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Shocking..

/

Key West Reader on May 26, 2013 at 11:21 AM

O_O

That’s my shocked face.

VegasRick on May 26, 2013 at 12:25 PM

this administration is a disgrace. An absolute disgrace.

pat on May 26, 2013 at 12:25 PM

this administration is a disgraceshithole. An absolute disgrace shithole.

pat on May 26, 2013 at 12:25 PM

…fixed it… for me!
(:->)

KOOLAID2 on May 26, 2013 at 12:29 PM

But I don’t think many of us imagined that even the Obama administration would be so blatant as to simply launch a police state style attack on a company supported their enemies while leaving friendly, Democrat donating competitors alone. Or at least I didn’t.

Based on your caveat, you need to get out more and read the comments. We knew it then and reiterated it since with every scandal since, including the IRS.

AH_C on May 26, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Marsha Blackburn invited him, Jazz….I read it here:

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/09/07/gibson-guitars-chief-to-attend-obamas-speech-tomorrow/

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 12:32 PM

this administration is a disgrace. An absolute disgrace.

pat on May 26, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Unfortunately it’s not just this Administration. The government as a whole has become a self-centered, self-perpetuating engine of oppression and destruction.

claudius on May 26, 2013 at 12:34 PM

But I don’t think many of us imagined that even the Obama administration would be so blatant as to simply launch a police state style attack on a company which supported their enemies while leaving friendly, Democrat donating competitors alone. Or at least I didn’t.

You’re not thinking fourth dimmensionally Jazz. I know this is heavy but its not a problem with Earth’s gravitational pull, just the Chicago way (aka corruption).

oryguncon on May 26, 2013 at 12:35 PM

I know this is heavy but its not a problem with Earth’s gravitational pull, just the Chicago way (aka corruption).

oryguncon on May 26, 2013 at 12:35 PM

+ 100..The folks with Team Obie need to go down..:)

Dire Straits on May 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Not only was it reported at the time re: the political contributions of Gibson vs Martin, it was also reported that Gibson is based in Tennessee (a Right-to-Work state), whereas Martin is not (Pennsylvania).

[link here]

TrubadorMike on May 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM

“Duh (they took alcohol out of mouth wash because of guys like me)..but Obama gave me a free cell phone and Republicans are trying to smear him because he’s black and got into trouble with some guy named Ben…Gazara? about some stupid movie. And what’s this sh– about Gibson? Somebody forget to put an onion in the martini?”

MaiDee on May 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Somebody forget to put an onion in the martini?”

MaiDee on May 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

And the worst etiquette offense of all – the martini was served in a whiskey sour tumbler.

platypus on May 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Sometimes we are hard on the younger bloggers/journalist. But tbey do seem up to date. Tina was all over this. Ericka is all over energy.

Then this pops up to remind me of the bubble.

I’ve had to relook at things with the emergance of talent like Katie Pavlich.

This raid was in 2009 ?

It just seems lazy.

I’ve provided the links to prove it. It was seen for what it was on this very site. By everone except the author of this submission.

*blind*, yet not mute.

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 12:53 PM

When the thieves control the police and the courts and the press, your options are limited.

RoadRunner on May 26, 2013 at 11:18 AM

FIFY

HiJack on May 26, 2013 at 12:57 PM

“I don’t care, Obama is awesome”

“What difference does it make?”

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

“It happened a long time ago”

“barky just found out about it tomorrow”

“eric withholder doesn’t know anything”

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/05/16/eric-holder-just-doesnt-know-n1598543

VegasRick on May 26, 2013 at 1:01 PM

If ever republicans win the white-house again it will be critical to avoid the mistake of Bush by leaving any radicals in positions of influence.

The administration may well be the source of the poison affecting this country, but the state is now so suffused with radical officials that extreme measures must be taken to remove all these commissars from EPA, FBI, IRS, Military and so on.

Shutting down whole offices/ agencies is the most impartial way to do this. Many of them have no valid security, economic or constitutional role in any case. It would rescue the country from its financial mess too.

The Gibson thing is another day in Thugville, Illinois.

virgo on May 26, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Sure, everyone knew that Gibson was targeted because of politics. Lighten up on Jazz, it doesn’t hurt for us all to take a walk down memory lane right now. Since scandals are in the news, why not revisit with the intention of showing a pattern of abuse.

Cindy Munford on May 26, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Is this paranoid, tinfoil hat territory? I assure you that Obama supporters reading this will declare it to be exactly that.

Of course they will. At the same time they will make NO COMMENT about the Martin Co. walking off free.

Must be the “nuance” of the wood.

GarandFan on May 26, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Tennessee right to work state.
Pennsylvania union state.
Is Martin a union shop?

kregg on May 26, 2013 at 1:04 PM

When do the repubs notice the war? If the repubs continue their blindness this will be in the streets before 2016!

tim c on May 26, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Bivens action refers to a lawsuit which is brought to redress a federal official’s violation of a constitutional right. Bivens action allows federal officials to be sued in a specific manner, similar to one prescribed at 42 USCS § 1983 for state officials violating a person’s constitutional rights under color of state law.

RealMc on May 26, 2013 at 1:06 PM

We also saw this DOJ abuse against Boeing.

kregg on May 26, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Sue them! You now have your proof. Take this all the way to SCOTUS if you have to. Same for the GM dealerships that were shut down.

neyney on May 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM

This.

petefrt on May 26, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Mein Kamph

wyntre9 on May 26, 2013 at 11:37 AM

In Mein Kamph, Hitler went into detail as to his plans for Germany yet so many were shocked when all of the atrocities actually took place, including Germans who had the book on their coffee table.

Similarly, this f’ing monster that occupies the White House now has left behind not just one book, but two. Additionally, he has been filmed saying the most revolting and sinister things that one could possibly imagine an American President saying.

All is proceeding according to plan, slowly but surely. He is utterly destroying this Republic brick by brick; destruction is his goal, his singular focus.

Just as Churchill knew from reading Mein Kamph what was going to happen and was completely ignored until it was too late, we conservatives are desperately trying to shine the light on our Fuher.

Folks, this isn’t going to end well even if we do wake up in time to stop it – we may be able to renew and restore our Constitution to its rightful place as the bedrock of a limited government that protects the inalienable rights of its citizens, but it will require us to invoke our rights under the Second Amendment to do so.

turfmann on May 26, 2013 at 1:10 PM

It’s not tin foil hat territory, Democrat politicians and their operatives are scum.

Cindy Munford on May 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Damn straight. Marxist Mafia.

SparkPlug on May 26, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Damn straight. Marxist Mafia.

SparkPlug on May 26, 2013 at 1:12 PM

These scumbags in DC are way worse than the mafia ever thought about being. We need a new word to describe their filth.

VegasRick on May 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Rope n Chains

We are shackled.

They were saying Rope n Chains, not Hope n Change.

SparkPlug on May 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM

If ever republicans win the white-house again it will be critical to avoid the mistake of Bush by leaving any radicals in positions of influence.

The administration may well be the source of the poison affecting this country, but the state is now so suffused with radical officials that extreme measures must be taken to remove all these commissars from EPA, FBI, IRS, Military and so on.

Shutting down whole offices/ agencies is the most impartial way to do this.

virgo on May 26, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Yes, it will take a massive overhaul to root out the poison. Something along the lines of what Thatcher did for UK. Otherwise we are goners.

A restoration of this scale seems unlikely until there is a catalyst, probably some national crisis that brings the public to its senses.

petefrt on May 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Speaking of Chrysler Dealerships, we had one in Albuquerque that was doing well, guess what? It was pulled because they were Republicans. They were a local dealership and it was given to a big corporate dealership here that has Toyota(2), Kia, and another Korean car dealership.

Drill and Fill on May 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Perhaps if conservatives would spend less time carrying out the agenda of CIS, FAIR and NumbersUSA and focus on building real political power to defend and discourage acts like that on Gibson we wouldn’t be in this mess

conservador on May 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM

A restoration of this scale seems unlikely until there is a catalyst, probably some national crisis that brings the public to its senses.

petefrt on May 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Or maybe a few dozens scandals that the lsm actually reports on? One can dream now can’t we.

VegasRick on May 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Cindy- I get your point. But it’s not a walk down memory lane. It’s happening in real time and we have coddled egg reporters reporting years late. Not even researching articles posted on the subject on the site they post on.

I play guitar.

To me it’s like… jeez? How come we didn’t report on all those cattle cars 3 years ago? Oops?

We can tie it all up in a nice package. And Jazz can write about it 3 years later.

Cutting edge? Reflective?

The first sentence of the piece proclaims ignorance.

His strong suit isn’t present day.

wolly4321 on May 26, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Guaranteed The EPA jack boot thugs have done the same thing.

Plus they tried to take Microsoft down because Apple whined and now Apple has done far worse business tactics. Al Gore is/was on Apples board.

SparkPlug on May 26, 2013 at 1:24 PM

with Gibson being forced to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in a settlement where there was no finding of criminal action

No, it’s lawsuit time. Gibson has a case for having to spend money to defend themselves when there was no criminal or civil case.

TulsAmerican on May 26, 2013 at 1:26 PM

VegasRick on May 26, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Scandals might be the start, but I imagine it’s going to have to get a lot more scarey than this before it moves people to action on the scale required.

petefrt on May 26, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Is this paranoid, tinfoil hat territory? I assure you that Obama supporters reading this will declare it to be exactly that. But given what we’ve been finding in the news recently, is it really that far fetched? Not any more.

‘Welcome to the party pal!’ – John McClane

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DvD94dVu8lqQ

ChuckTX on May 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM

And I long ago stopped expecting Obama’s supporters to believe anything other than that he is their guy god, and that what ever it takes to maintain/increase his power is all good.

RalphyBoy on May 26, 2013 at 11:23 AM

FIFM for accuracy.

GrannyDee on May 26, 2013 at 1:33 PM

These scumbags in DC are way worse than the mafia ever thought about being. We need a new word to describe their filth.

VegasRick on May 26, 2013 at 1:15 PM

…it’s an old word…but it still fits….S H ! T !

KOOLAID2 on May 26, 2013 at 1:37 PM

FIFM for accuracy.

GrannyDee on May 26, 2013 at 1:33 PM

That is true and very concerning.

VegasRick on May 26, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Is this paranoid, tinfoil hat territory? I assure you that Obama supporters reading this will declare it to be exactly that. But given what we’ve been finding in the news recently, is it really that far fetched? Not any more.

That’s right. Not any more.

And one year from now, what current accusation that is flatly denied by the left as paranoia will be added to the list of things that can’t be denied any more.

Curtiss on May 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

I have a little different version of Occam that I use in the case of the REB’s administration. Rather than going with the simplest theory, or the one with the fewest assumptions, I go with the theory that requires the most evil and malice on the part of the REB.

slickwillie2001 on May 26, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Jazz you’re a bit behind the times…this story was reported by Fox and other news outlets at the time the Gibson plant was raided and Martin’s was not…
Nothing to see here – move along folks.

RMCS_USN on May 26, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Guaranteed The EPA jack boot thugs have done the same thing.

Plus they tried to take Microsoft down because Apple whined and now Apple has done far worse business tactics. Al Gore is/was on Apples board.

SparkPlug on May 26, 2013 at 1:24 PM

….why am I humming that old 1972 Stealer Wheels song?…Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right/….stuck in the middle with you?

KOOLAID2 on May 26, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Same thing happened with the illegal GM bankruptcy case. They screwed the conservative leaning dealers, canceled their contracts with the automaker, even though those dealerships were very profitable and run well. Tens of thousands of people lost their jobs for NO GOOD REASON!!!!

Not a peep from the press.

karenhasfreedom on May 26, 2013 at 1:47 PM

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