Quotes of the day

posted at 7:21 pm on May 24, 2013 by Allahpundit

Gov. Rick Perry today issued the following statement regarding the vote to admit openly gay Boy Scouts:

The Boys Scouts of America has been built upon the values of faith and family for more than 100 years and today’s decision contradicts generations of tradition in the name of political correctness. While I will always cherish my time as a scout and the life lessons I learned, I am greatly disappointed with this decision.

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Touting the Boy Scouts’ “landmark” and “historic” decision to allow openly-gay members, CBS, ABC, and NBC gave supporters of the decision three times as many quotes as their opponents got on Friday morning’s news stories.

The networks gave 10 soundbites to supporters of the new Scouts policy and only three to its opponents. Supporters included President Obama, gay scout Pascal Tessier, and former den leader Jennifer Tyrell.

Calling it a “major milestone,” NBC’s Craig Melvin didn’t even acknowledge the opposition to the policy at first, pointing only to its supporters and those who believe it didn’t go far enough…

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Look, we all know the next move here. Ultimately there will be gay Boy Scout leaders. Gay youth coupled with gay scout leaders is eventually going to lead to programs and merit badges aimed at satisfying the homosexual community. Maybe you can earn the “Diversity” merit badge? How about the “Inclusion” merit badge? Or how about a new “Homosexuality” merit badge (whatever that might entail)?…

This may be the beginning of the end for the Boy Scouts. Already we are seeing an effort to start a new type of Boy Scouts organization. A group called, “On My Honor,” made up of concerned parents and scout leaders who are against inclusion of gays into the Boy Scouts is going to meet privately next month in Louisville, Kentucky where they will discuss creating a, “new character development organization for boys.”…

I’m sure many people will say that this is a new day in America and that conservative Christians have to get with the program and stop living in their insular conservative 1950’s Bible world. And I’m sure those same people will say that if the homophobic Christians don’t like the new policy then good riddance! Well you know what? Plenty of conservative Christians are about to say adios to the Boy Scouts and it could very well leave one of America’s most cherished organizations wondering what in the world they have just done.

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As an Eagle Scout, I have absolutely zero problem with the Boy Scouts of America explicitly allowing all boys to be Boy Scouts. It was surprising to hear that it was any other way before because regardless of what the official policy might have been, I can’t remember a single time a boy was kept out of my troop because he was gay, or heard about it happening elsewhere. At a minimum, that policy had been largely vacated by local practices, at least in my experience. But in any case and as it was before this formal change in policy, the BSA remains one of the great youth leadership and service organizations this country has to offer. If you have a boy, you should seriously consider introducing him to the Scouts.

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Family Research Council President Tony Perkins made the following comments:

“Sadly, the Boy Scouts’ legacy of producing great leaders has become yet another casualty of moral compromise. Unfortunately, Boy Scout delegates capitulated to strong-arm tactics and abandoned the timeless values that have served the organization well for more than 100 years…

“It is clear that the current BSA leadership will bend with the winds of popular culture, and the whims of liberal special interest groups. There is little doubt that God will soon be ushered out of scouting. Now is the time for new leadership. In the meantime, we will stand with those BSA Councils who will now act to protect boys from a new policy that only creates moral confusion and disrespects the views of the vast majority of Scouting parents,” concluded Perkins.

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The Secular Coalition for America today said the Boy Scouts’ recent decision to allow openly gay boys is a positive step in the right direction, but does not go far enough. The SCA expressed disappointment that the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) has decided to continue its policy of discrimination against atheists and gay Scout leaders

Edwina Rogers, executive director of the Secular Coalition for America said the Coalition is pleased that the Scouts have decided to allow openly gay youth, but that it’s not enough.

“Discrimination is wrong — whether it’s directed at children or adults, atheists or the religious,” Rogers said. “We will continue to encourage the Scouts to address the full range of discrimination against atheists and LGBT adults…

“No organization that discriminates on the basis of religion or religious beliefs should receive federal support,” Rogers said. “We look forward to a time when the Boy Scouts will be a completely inclusive organization that does not discriminate at all based on religious belief or sexual orientation.”

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WALLACE: Knock yourself out. I’m done.
GALLAGHER: You’re an idiot. You’re totally an idiot. You’re so wrong on this one.
WALLACE: You’re so bigoted.
GALLAGHER: Oh, I’m bigoted? I’m the least homophobic guy on the radio. This is not anti-gay. And I understand people want inclusion. I don’t like discrimination. I don’t the way a lot of people react to gays and lesbians in this country. I really don’t. I think a lot of my Christian brothers and sisters get more fired about gays than they do about adultery or pornography or marital infidelity. But my gosh — the scouts are going to get destroyed by this.
WALLACE: Oh, baloney! Wait a minute, you know — that’s like, has the military been destroyed by ‘don’t ask, don’t tell?’
GALLAGHER: We’re not talking about minor children in the military.


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cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Hmmmmm, you are probably right. I don’t know a lot of heterosexual beta males, with or without skin problems. I guess that precludes them uniting since it’s a lead pipe cinch they couldn’t find a leader on their own.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

That’s what I was getting at. And AP, being an alpha among betas wouldn’t lower himself. Or be accepted as peers among them.

We need input from some true betas.

But, since I ignore HAL, partisan, verby and the others, I don’t know any betas. Heck, the gay guys I know ain’t betas.

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM
For you:

Billy Joel – “Just the Way You Are” (live)

:)

Anti-Control on May 25, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Your tooooo sweet! muah~ xo

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

People break the Ten Commandments all day long and twice on Sunday and I can still love them.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Well, that’s where the subject matter usually gets changed without anyone’s noticing. It’s gotten to the point where it’s assumed that if you call anything “sin” you are automatically excluding anyone involved in that sin and suddenly YOU become the “bad guy”.

But as David said, “What I did not steal, must I now restore?”

It’s not for me to have to defend morality; it’s for those who deny its existence to defend their practices.

Cleombrotus on May 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM
You have to admit that Beta Males United could be fun to watch!!//

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Sorry, had a phone call.
Oh yeah..most beta’s I know are so exciting. /
zzzzzzzzzz

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Cleombrotus on May 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM

You make a good argument, I just feel very unqualified to be the judge of anyone. I have enough trouble keeping my own better self in line.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

lol..just had a weird memory.
In Cali, as a child..grocery store chain called Alpha Beta.
Looked it up..re-branded to Ralph’s later.
Just a little useless trivia.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

That’s pretty funny, I wonder if that was a public opinion driven change or was the CEO’s name Ralph?

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM

It would be like herding cats. Funny but probably not for long.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:00 PM

A friend of my son was getting married but she was already living with her boyfriend. They had trouble finding a pastor who would perform the ceremony. The difference is that they didn’t sue the pastor, they just kept looking for someone. I never asked him who they finally found.

Rose on May 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Yep Cindy- I remember Ralph’s too.Vons, Safeway ect..
When I moved out here..I said..what is a Publix? lol

Ralphs is a major supermarket chain in the Southern California area and the largest subsidiary of Cincinnati-based Kroger. It is the oldest such chain west of the Mississippi River. Ralphs also operates stores under the Food 4 Less and Foods Co. names in California.Ralphs Grocery Company was founded in 1873 by George Albert Ralphs. The original store was located at Sixth and Spring Streets in Los Angeles, California. In the 20th century, Ralphs became a grocery pioneer, offering self-service markets with checkout stands in distributed locations.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

You make a good argument, I just feel very unqualified to be the judge of anyone. I have enough trouble keeping my own better self in line.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

That’s why it’s important to recognize that the problem of the tendency to “judge” others doesn’t go away by ignoring or otherwise minimizing the nature of that which we know is wrong. All that succeeds in doing is enabling the sin of those who are given over to it.

That’s how we got to this mess in the first place.

Cleombrotus on May 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

What?

I remember them as Skaggs/AplhaBeta. And they have been gone a looonnnng time. You may be older than you let on…Maybe they became Ralph’s in California, but in other places they became Albertson’s.

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Corporate raiding.

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Anyway, good chatting with you, as usual. Have to run.

Cleombrotus on May 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Before Alpha Beta was the name of a store, it was the name of a marketing concept used in grocery stores founded by Albert and Hugh Gerrard; it referred to organizing the groceries in the store in alphabetical order.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

I remember Alpha Beta stores. We have Ralph’s, Alberstons, and Vons in our city. We used to have a Lucky’s.

Rose on May 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

I said as a child ding bat.

According to Wiki…In September 1991, Skaggs-Alpha Beta re-branded its 76 stores in Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico and Arkansas as Jewel-Osco, in an attempt to unify some of its subsidiaries under one nationally recognized name. Months later, Albertsons bought some of the Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas stores.
Most remaining Alpha Beta stores in the United States were taken over by Lucky brand, which in turn became Albertsons, then Lucky again. Most stores in southern California were renamed to Ralphs after Yucaipa, owner of Alpha Beta, bought the Ralphs grocery chain.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Rose, you in Cali?
I miss Thirty’s! I had many an ice cream there growing up.
No Thrifty’s out here. :(

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM

I said as a child ding bat.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Yeah!, well?…if you ain’t been to a Piggly Wiggly, you ain’t been to a grocery store.

So there!

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Cleombrotus on May 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Thanks, you to! I hope your weather is as glorious as ours.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Rose on May 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

I know, litigation is not going to make me happy about this. They don’t do their compatriots any favors.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Yeah!, well?…if you ain’t been to a Piggly Wiggly, you ain’t been to a grocery store.

So there!

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

I have..in SC and GA.
Don’t have them in Fl that I know of. Cindy may know.
Piggly Wiggly makes me laugh.
Now thats an Alpha store! hee he.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:35 PM

We don’t have Jack In the Box or In N Out Burger (I was devastated)
Funny how each region has diff stuff.
Was odd moving across the country at 13.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

I know we have wander way off topic but as a fellow Floridian, I wondered if you had notice food prices going up since Food Lion left the state? In my area I think people felt that they must shop Publix to show that they had arrived. Now they are putting in a Walmart Pantry story in it’s place and I’m wondering how it’s going to go over. Not that I don’t think Publix is lovely but I’m shopping the sales.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

I think in my old hometown they are down to one BeLo. It was interesting to watch grocery stores in Virginia go union and go belly up.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Many things still regional.

Its hard to do without a Jack-In-the-Box.

In-Out is over rated.

I miss A&W stands.

Dairy Queen joining forces with Orange Julius probably saved both.

Its good to be able to get an Orange Julius again after them being out of the market for so many years.

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

When are we ever on topic on qotd?
lol

Yes..everything has gone up dramatically.
My cat litter at Publix is over $2 more a bag in the last 2 years..I blamed QE/gas prices/economy- but we don’t have many stores/competition.
We finally got Albertson’s chain in central Fl years back but they closed them or Publix bought the remaining out…what a couple years back? Didn’t ever venture to Food Lion after they were caught bleaching meats.
Winn Dixie makes me ill…will not buy perishable goods there. It is Walmart,Publix, or Winn Dixie..that is it..here ,central anyway. I shop sales too..each week..depending. I just got a BJ membership as well.
I also go to the produce stands when possible.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

It was interesting to watch grocery stores in Virginia go union and go belly up.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Yet unions still do what unions do best. Destroy jobs.

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

When are we ever on topic on qotd?
lol

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

No Shinola, who cares about the topic. This is more interesting.

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM

I miss A&W stands.

Dairy Queen joining forces with Orange Julius probably saved both.

Its good to be able to get an Orange Julius again after them being out of the market for so many years.

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Be still me heart…Orange Julius! omg..my fave..
Do they have them at Dairy Queen? I will be there in a flash!

They built some A&W places here..a few..I know of one in the Orlando area and stop there every time I go. Old school with the drive ins…frosty mug. The rest are stand alone or combined with Long John Silver’s.

Okay..I love u now. ;)

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Okay..I love u now. ;)

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Not yet fully integrated, look up to see if there is one near you.

Hardly ever go to Dairy Queen any more. With Orange Julius, I hardly ever pass one up. One of the few things that taste as good now as they did long ago.
DQ search

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:54 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM

I live in Ventura County. We used to walk to Thrifty’s with our kids and our dog. One of us would stay outside with the dog while the other took the kids in to get their ice cream cones. They used to advertise that their ice cream won awards over more famous brands.

Rose on May 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

I don’t think I ever believed that Food Lion story. I still go there in Virginia. They have Farm Fresh and Kroger there. When I first moved here on my way home I could hit Albertsons, Publix, Winn Dixie, Harris Teeter, and Food Lion for my weekly shopping. Those were the days!!

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I just got a BJ membership as well.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Where do I get one of those?

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 1:00 PM

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Dairy Queen Peanut Buster Parfait! I bet I haven’t had one of those in 15 years. Where are my car keys?

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Rose on May 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM

I grew up next to ya!
Oh yes..it was always a big treat to get a Thrifty’s cone. 2-3 diff scoops. It was the best! Fond memories.
TY.

@Coz- I have a Dairy Queen near..I shall find out.
If they have an O Julius..I will kiss you! Web kiss..ooo

Wow, lots of blasts from the best..fun.
I better get my butt up and get going.
Have a wonder weekend and Memorial Day.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Where do I get one of those?

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 1:00 PM

lmao

Like a Costco or Sam’s.

Later!!

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Dang, I gave the girls something better to do.

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 1:09 PM

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 1:09 PM

While I should be making better use of my time, I’m actually over at the new gay(?) thread. I’m going to go to the freezer and get an ice cream sandwich though.

Cindy Munford on May 25, 2013 at 1:18 PM

First, the age range for Boy Scouts is 11-17 years old.

Second, the Boy Scouts had a rule that openly gay scouts could not be members. They’ve now rescinded that rule. That’s all.

JetBoy on May 25, 2013 at 8:48 AM

I think you are confirming my point and question. Yes, the BSA age group is 11 to 17. As you said in your comment … you didn’t “come out” until your last year of college. I never knew a single openly gay guy in high school (granted … this was some time ago).

So where are these 11-17 year old boys who have made some sort of definitive assertion of their gender/sexual identity crisis/gayness? That seems absurd to me. Why did the Boy Scouts need to be whipped into this ridiculous position?

Jaibones on May 25, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Hey JetBoy, I don’t know if you noticed, but I posted this just yesterday’s QotD!

Elton Motello – “Jet Boy Jet Girl”

I’ve wondered if you got your name from this song, being a Jets’ fan, or the song “Jet Boy” by The New York Dolls…

Anti-Control on May 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Not a whole lot of people make that connection…and yes, that’s part of my screen-name reason :)

I actually prefer The Damned live version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN0OYeVvyk4

Yeah, JetBoy is a mixture of the NY Jets, that song, and Jetboy was a comic book character at one time.

JetBoy on May 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Would you acknowledge it if it did?

Cleombrotus on May 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

I sure would.

You made the statement that homosexuality is a great sin, and I’m still waiting on you to show me where in the bible does it say that?

I ain’t big on the Bible, or give a flamin’ fat rat’s rear end about adults attracted to each other, but that is so much of an ignorant reach.

cozmo on May 25, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Leviticus 20:13 says nothing about homosexuality being an abomination or a sin…it says the sexual act is the sin. Not being gay. And while we’re on Leviticus, would all the other abominations still be applicable towards Christians? Like shaving beards, eating pork, and wearing blended clothing?

JetBoy on May 25, 2013 at 2:00 PM

1 Cor 6.

Read it in its entirety, and if you can’t see the redemption side of it, read it again.
No need to be washed, if not having sinned.
Best part, sins are washable !!

:-)

pambi on May 25, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Not a whole lot of people make that connection…and yes, that’s part of my screen-name reason :)

I actually prefer The Damned live version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN0OYeVvyk4

Yeah, JetBoy is a mixture of the NY Jets, that song, and Jetboy was a comic book character at one time.

JetBoy on May 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM

The Damned are one of my more favorite bands, but I still like Elton’s version the best of all I’ve heard.

I like this song even more:

New York Dolls – “Jet Boy” (live)

Anti-Control on May 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Your tooooo sweet! muah~ xo

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

muah darlin’! :)

Piggly Wiggly makes me laugh.
Now thats an Alpha store! hee he.

bazil9 on May 25, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Karl Rove is the face of PigglyWiggly, and Erick Erickson should be the voice…everytime I hear Erick, I think of this: Porky Pig Cartoon Ending – “That’s All Folks!”

Anti-Control on May 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM

The Damned are one of my more favorite bands, but I still like Elton’s version the best of all I’ve heard.

I like this song even more:

New York Dolls – “Jet Boy” (live)

Anti-Control on May 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM

NY Dolls are cool!

Five years or so ago, if I remember correctly, Pepsi ran a TV commercial with the Plastic Bertrand French version of Jetboy Jetgirl…apparently not aware of the lyrics lol.

JetBoy on May 25, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Your willful intellectual dishonesty is breathtaking, but not unexpected.

The anti-BSA activists have made it crystal clear that they are not appeased and your response is to drive knitting needles into your eyes and cry out, “Nothing to see here.”

Typical

ebrown2 on May 25, 2013 at 9:53 AM

I’m not, nor ever was, “anti-BSA”. I was a Cub Scout, my mom was a den mother. And I was a Boy Scout with my church’s troop for a couple years before I got into lacrosse and football.

You’re no better at arguing a point than most liberals are…straw men and sophomoric quips don’t actually scream “intelligent”.

JetBoy on May 25, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Inability to read on your part vitiates any criticism you make. I said that the anti-BSA organizations (Secular Coalition for America being an example) were not appeased by this pathetic BSA capitulation and that your response was to ignore their clear statement, not that you yourself were “anti-BSA.” However, your willful refusal to look at the social and political pressure that will STILL be put on them cashes out to the same thing in practical terms. Edmund Burke was right.

ebrown2 on May 25, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Your willful intellectual dishonesty is breathtaking, but not unexpected.

The anti-BSA activists have made it crystal clear that they are not appeased and your response is to drive knitting needles into your eyes and cry out, “Nothing to see here.”

Typical

ebrown2 on May 25, 2013 at 9:53 AM

For the limited time I’ve commented here, I’ve drawn the same conclusion about the boy. He has a lot of folks who seem to want to defend his position to the death, but the fact remains he’s more progressive than conservative and as closed minded as they come with facts. There is an abundance of comments showing that this action on the BSA is just what more radical gay groups and atheists were waiting for to get their foot in the door. The boy will not answer nor acknowledge any of your comments pointing that out. Tantamount to sticking his fingers in his ears and saying la la la I can’t hear you.

If he refuses to speak out against the further intrusions, it could only mean that he supports them. He would welcome gay scout leaders, lesbian and bisexual leaders. I’m sure he’d scratch his head and scream “straw man” if you raised the question about how a young boy in the scouts might react to a leader going through the trangendering process.

I think Jet boy and others here who claim to be conservatives and still support radical gay issues really should check their conservative creds in. There is no bigger group of advocates who benefit by the left’s political correctness than those supporting the gay agenda. Anything we write here, anything, can be dismissed by these people simply by calling us intolerant and homophobes. And if you want to get down to it, the biggest strawmen here are erected by advocates like Jetboy when they attempt to paint us as people who would have opposed the civil rights movement. It is the classic issue straw man and and at least one of them will use it in every gay topic.

They will end up getting everything they want. They have too much money, too much liberal media.

smoothsailing on May 26, 2013 at 7:48 AM

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