Pelosi on Obama’s responsibility for IRS: Should Boehner have known of wrongdoing since the office was in Cincinnati?

posted at 6:01 pm on May 23, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via RCP, most Democratic hacks in seeking to limit Obama’s culpability for IRS-gate go no further than noting that Doug Shulman, the commissioner during the malfeasance, was a Bush appointee. (And a donor to the DNC, although you never hear that mentioned.) Pelosi checks that box here but goes a step further. Because the federal government is so vast — which is just how Nancy Pelosi wants it — and because the IRS is so “independent” an agency, the head of the executive branch evidently is no more accountable for its wrongdoing than a congressman in whose district the blameworthy IRS office lies. That’s an … interesting twist on “the buck stops here” for many reasons, not least of which because Boehner’s congressional district lies outside Cincinnati. Obvious question: If the IRS is independent, why did Obama make a big show of announcing Steve Miller’s resignation at that press conference last week? Why did IRS lawyers notify Obama’s Treasury Department that conservatives had been targeted? Why did White House staffers consult with the IRS over the past month on how Lois Lerner should reveal the scandal? Why, to borrow an oft-repeated Twitter joke, does it often seem like Obama’s allies think the only federal employees who answer to him are SEAL Team 6?

Make a mental note of what you’re about to see, as the precedent of “congressman X has as much responsibility for executive wrongdoing in his district as the president” could be a helpful precedent for the next Republican administration. Oh, and she also thinks Lois Lerner should have answered Issa’s questions, which I believe makes that particular verdict unanimous.


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Oh sure.

And Obama needs to be responsible for every crime that happens in the District of Columbia.

portlandon on May 23, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Pelosi on Obama’s responsibility for IRS: Should Boehner have known of wrongdoing since the office was in Cincinnati?

Epic Pelosi Fail.

Paul-Cincy on May 23, 2013 at 6:04 PM

I agree with Supreme Madame Pelosi.

Rahm Emanuel will be tried for 500+ homicides by the end of May.

Odie1941 on May 23, 2013 at 6:05 PM

The scumhag strikes again.

Of course all should have know and alerted the voters of the election about to be stolen.

The witch is right.

Boehner, Issa, Cantor, Romney et all should have raised holy hell ahead of Nov. 6, 2012.

Obama is NOT legitimate, after Jan. 20, 2013.

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Will the last two functioning electrons in Nancy Pelosi’s head, please close the gate on the way out?

Joe Mama on May 23, 2013 at 6:07 PM

The Bengals have never won a Super Bowl. I blame Boehner.

Mark1971 on May 23, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Oh sure.

And Obama needs to be responsible for every crime that happens in the District of Columbia.

portlandon on May 23, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Well, at least Obama could address the hundreds of black kids in his home town of Chicago, who presumably look like Obama’s son if he had a son, and tell them to stop killing each other. That would matter.

If Boehner is responsible for everything that goes on in Cincinnati, there’s a nasty pothole two doors down. Could he get on that.

Paul-Cincy on May 23, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Whatever you do, read this.

Also, Lerner is a Democ rat, who committed fraud, to elect Obama.

Obama is ultimately responsible, scumhag Pelosi.

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2013 at 6:08 PM

And Nancy Pelosi has attained and has created for herself serenity and it is only her insanity that is keeping her alive in her senility.

RasThavas on May 23, 2013 at 6:08 PM

That’s an … interesting twist on “the bucks stop here” for many reasons, not least of which because Boehner’s congressional district lies outside Cincinnati.

To be fair, she did say it was a “neighboring district,” not that it was his district specifically. That having been said, I believe that is the only thing she said in that entire video that was truthful.

Shump on May 23, 2013 at 6:09 PM

The witch looks bad.

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2013 at 6:09 PM

I agree with Supreme Madame Pelosi.

Rahm Emanuel will be tried for 500+ homicides by the end of May.

Odie1941 on May 23, 2013 at 6:05 PM

barky resonible for all crime in D.C. and Boehner gets booted and replaced by Issa. It’s a three – fer!

VegasRick on May 23, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Joe Mama on May 23, 2013 at 6:07 PM

There’s two?

tbrickert on May 23, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Nancy Pelosi — A major reason to work very hard to make sure the Republicans maintain or increase the size of their majority in the House of Representatives in 2014.

You certainly don’t want Nancy Pelosi to become Speaker of the House again, do you?

Who is running for Congress in your district?

wren on May 23, 2013 at 6:10 PM

speechless.

JusDreamin on May 23, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Boehner should go ahead and take responsibility, and then order every single person in the tax exempt section of the office fired.

CJ on May 23, 2013 at 6:11 PM

I believe the IRS is a federal agency, not a state or city agency.

VorDaj on May 23, 2013 at 6:11 PM

OT:

Holder OK’d search warrant for Fox News reporter’s private emails, official says.

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/23/18451142-holder-okd-search-warrant-for-fox-news-reporters-private-emails-official-says?lite

wyntre9 on May 23, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Brilliant, simply brilliant.

Nothing is beyond this nasty, vile, evil serpent.

acyl72 on May 23, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Pelosi, you dolt. Boehner is not the chief executive with total responsibility for everything the executive branch does or fails to do. If that’s a serious question then she’s even dumber than first believed.

rplat on May 23, 2013 at 6:14 PM

I don’t remember Pelosi blaming William “Dollar Bill” Jefferson for the Hurricane Katrina fiasco.

Mark1971 on May 23, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Pelosi: The IRS is an independent agency. so the inference to be drawn from “it happened on [Obama's] watch is that it happened on his watch the way that some other cabinet agency– an agency of government would. No. This is an independent agency headed up by a Bush appointee..

Reporter: But doesn’t the buck stop with him?…

Pelosi: Well, the President doesn’t know what’s going on in every agency of government. Should Mr. Boehner have known? This is in his neighboring district. Cincinnati where the IRS office is. I don’t think you can hold him accountable for what happened in that IRS office… uh, I… uh, the public will make its decision about it. But that’s it.”

Mr. Boehner wasn’t elected Chief Executive of the United States. The President, and the President alone, is responsible for everything that happens in his branch of government. (The President appoints the Commissioner of the IRS, who is answerable to the President.) The Constitution simply holds no one else responsible.

“But that’s it.” Why does she remind me of the clueless Emperor Joseph II?

de rigueur on May 23, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Ever had a mockingbird near your window at night? That’s what she sounds like to me. A sharp, shrill, repetitive noisemaker that goes on and on and on until you think you if it doesn’t stop soon, you might just go insane.

scalleywag on May 23, 2013 at 6:16 PM

“Idiot wind blowing every time your move your mouth
Blowing down the backroads heading south
Idiot wind blowing every time you move your teeth
You’re an idiot babe
It’s a wonder that you still know how to breathe.”

Hat tip to The Hibbing Troubadour

Bruno Strozek on May 23, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I really wish people would quit thinking that the IRS office in Cincinnati is a “local” office. It.Is.Not. It is one of two national clearing house offices of the IRS. The second one is in Kansas City.

ladyingray on May 23, 2013 at 6:16 PM

And NOBODY in the media called BS on her statement? Nobody said “hey Nan, are you F’ing serious?”

Hill60 on May 23, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Listen carefully, to the end.

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Awww, isn’t the wicked witch.

NotCoach on May 23, 2013 at 6:18 PM

and all the while, the immigration bill keeps marching forward!

“It’s like magic — you distract the audience while the real trick is being done — and I think right now, while Americans focus on President Obama’s unending difficulties, it’s good news for the Gang of Eight working on immigration,” said Republican strategist Alex Castellanos, referring to the four Republicans and four Democrats who crafted the bill.

now, if we had solid Rs who voted in their constituents interests, this would not be a problem…but we don’t. So it is a problem

(well, technically, the Rs see their constituents as Big Business. …well, at least Big Money)

That is why the politics of this country is so surreal. It is all Kabuki theater. RWM had a piece last night from The Nation about the shakedown that CAP did to get big bucks from business….just like the good old days when barry was teaching Alinsky.
.
Rs play along hoping to get some crumbs along the way. That’s what you do if you have utterly no vision of governance…no compass to tell you what is good or bad for the country.

It is all temporizing until the next election

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-23/obama-probes-create-immigration-magic-as-bill-advances.html

r keller on May 23, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Awww, isn’t the wicked witch [cute].

NotCoach on May 23, 2013 at 6:18 PM

NotCoach on May 23, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Nancy, I hope this makes you spontaneously combust, you witch.

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Pelosi has to be the most partisan person in politics. Nothing her party does can possibly ever be wrong, while everything the other does is wrong. The woman is a detriment to our country.

sadatoni on May 23, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Absolutely.

Just like John Kerry is partly responsible for the security lapses in Boaton that led to 9/11.

Ben Hur on May 23, 2013 at 6:19 PM

She also managed to refer to Citizen’s United – “these mechanisms that have proliferated since the Supreme Court’s decision” basically repeating the lie that the number of applications went up, and blaming that increase on the Court’s decision.

ConservativeinCO on May 23, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Oh sure.

And Obama needs to be responsible for every crime that happens in the District of Columbia.

portlandon on May 23, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Not necessarily every crime, but I’m thinkin’ there certainly may be a few. If ya know what I mean.

hawkeye54 on May 23, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Awww, isn’t the wicked witch.

I think you misspelled a word there.

hawkeye54 on May 23, 2013 at 6:23 PM

What is even more amazing is the media still gives her a big platform and there is no chiding about it.

ojfltx on May 23, 2013 at 6:24 PM

She probably really is this stupid, so facts don’t have much impact, but IRS is NOT an “independent agency.” Jeez. Google it, Nancy, if you don’t believe me.
IRS is a bureau of the Department of the Treasury. The Commissioner answers to the Secretary of the Treasury. EPA is an independent agency. CIA and the FCC are independent agencies. All IRS employees’ authority is delegated by the Treasury Secretary, a political appointee of Barack Obama. Not John Boehner or Nancy Pelosi.
Why is this so hard?

mongoose on May 23, 2013 at 6:27 PM

How stupid can one person get?

CrimsonFisted on May 23, 2013 at 6:29 PM

fox news alert….boy scouts have kowtowed to the minority

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Do they get any dumber?

StevC on May 23, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Former Speaker Pelosi, your days of relevance are numbered, and you know it. After the midterms, you’ll no longer remain minority leader. Another dem will step into your shoes. Then, you become irrelevant.

tommy71 on May 23, 2013 at 6:34 PM

So she is all in favor of the investigation and jailing of these independents. Right?

pat on May 23, 2013 at 6:35 PM

And yes, we have indeed had 118 Easter egg rolls over the past two years.

John the Libertarian on May 23, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Pelosi.

The DNC’s own Togor. I hear Manos music in the background every time she wanders in.

StubbleSpark on May 23, 2013 at 6:38 PM

How stupid can one person get?

Do they get any dumber?

They keep on proving that stupidity and dumbness have no absolute limits.

Until they all start babbling incoherently uttering nonsense incessantly and drooling with glazed over empty eyes.

Well, maybe when they all fall into a catatonic state, then.

hawkeye54 on May 23, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Does this woman have any inkling as to how the Federal Government is organized under the Constitution?
(rhetorical question)

Another Drew on May 23, 2013 at 6:42 PM

and Nancy should be responsible for the rust accumulating on the Golden Gate Bridge…

hillsoftx on May 23, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Can’t tell which stiff is fresher–Pelosi or this one.

ElectricPhase on May 23, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Boehner, Issa, Cantor, Romney et all should have raised holy hell ahead of Nov. 6, 2012.

Obama is NOT legitimate, after Jan. 20, 2013.

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Mark Levin said they didn’t do anything because the IRS attacks against the Tea Party & Conservatives served the Republican Establishment’s purposes. They despise them and raise money to defeat them as we well know.

Mark also mentioned a Grand Jury needs called. I’m not familiar with what that would do, but it is interesting.

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 6:44 PM

I really wish people would quit thinking that the IRS office in Cincinnati is a “local” office. It.Is.Not. It is one of two national clearing house offices of the IRS. The second one is in Kansas City.

ladyingray on May 23, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Two points.

First, everyone understands that this Cincinnati office is NOT in Boehner’s district, right? Strictly speaking, I don’t know whether it’s in Brad Wenstrup’s district or Steve Chabot’s district–it depends on where the building that houses the unit falls. I’m in the northern part of Chabot’s district, and Boehner’s district starts about two miles north of me.

Second, to ladyingray’s point, this Cincinnati unit wasn’t processing only Cincinnati area returns. It was a national clearinghouse for tax-exempt entities. Complaints, naturally, were going to members of Congress all over the country. They weren’t getting funneled to Boehner.

Pelosi is such a c*nt.

BuckeyeSam on May 23, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Watch how she does her mouth.I dealt with many troops on amphetimines over the years and she has classic symptoms.She’s a meth head scuzz.

docflash on May 23, 2013 at 6:46 PM

here’s j rubin making a humorous? prediction for the weekend

Friday before Memorial Day will O fire Holder,call for indep. prosec for DOJ. H criminalizes reporting, affidavit had lies (flight risk?!)— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) May 23, 2013

r keller on May 23, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Boehner should go ahead and take responsibility, and then order every single person in the tax exempt section of the office fired.

CJ on May 23, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Confidence in an unfaithful man in time of trouble is like a broken tooth, and a foot out of joint.

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Should Boehner have known of wrongdoing since the office was in Cincinnati?

Is that from The onion or The People’s Cube?

petefrt on May 23, 2013 at 7:16 PM

When I think of dingbats Nan comes to mind FIRST>

CW on May 23, 2013 at 7:23 PM

by that reasoning, obama is responsible for all the Chicago gun deaths

burserker on May 23, 2013 at 7:23 PM

I used to think that Pelosi was such a partisan hack that it made her incapable of seeing any issue even a tiny bit rationally. But really she is just an awful human being.

KateNE on May 23, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Make a mental note of what you’re about to see, as the precedent of “congressman X has as much responsibility for executive wrongdoing in his district as the president” could be a helpful precedent for the next Republican administration.

Welcome to the 6 o’clock news. Our top story: President Palin dispatched Seal Team 6 to Frisco today to punch every dumb hippie in the face. Quote, “Nancy Pelosi has as much responsibility as anyone for allowing her district to degenerate into a barnyard circus, leaving us with no alternative but to give those morons a well deserved hippie face-punching. Er, I mean, I had no idea that those low level staffers in the Navy went rogue.” Viewer discretion, the video you’re about to see is extremely hilarious, and may not be suitable for Marxists.

CapnObvious on May 23, 2013 at 7:33 PM

She’s riding the Crazy Train straight to the end of the line.

Naturally Curly on May 23, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Sounded like she was choking on her own revulsion there for a bit.

BKeyser on May 23, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Interesting angle, and I must say I did not see that one coming. Well played. OK, Madam Former-Speaker. I will stipulate your point as long as you apply this logic consistently. Obama is now responsible for all gun crime in Chicago, you are responsible for California’s impending economic collapse. Elizabeth Warren is culpable for the Boston Marathon bombing, and Sen. Pat Leahy us responsible for…..um…..forget that one, nothing happens in Vermont. Maybe the price of Cherry Garcia going up.

Huckabye-Romney on May 23, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Deny. Project. Deflect. Accuse.

All in a day’s work for the Dummycraps, eh !?

cableguy615 on May 23, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I’ve got a box of rocks smarter than Pelosi.

A box of small rocks, at that.

ajacksonian on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

How many other Federal agencies in Cincinnati should Boehner keep up with? HHS? SSA? DoD? Interior? Labor? DHS?
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Do these agencies copy Boehner on email?
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Dumb witch. Who would ever take you seriously again?

ExpressoBold on May 23, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Separation of powers is just another thing unknown on Planet Pelosi.

I HATE, HATE, HATE MAEROSE PRIZZI.
I HATE, HATE, HATE MAEROSE PRIZZI.
I HATE, HATE, HATE MAEROSE PRIZZI.
I HATE, HATE, HATE MAEROSE PRIZZI.
I HATE, HATE, HATE MAEROSE PRIZZI.
I HATE, HATE, HATE MAEROSE PRIZZI.
I HATE, HATE, HATE MAEROSE PRIZZI.
I HATE, HATE, HATE MAEROSE PRIZZI.

And, I don’t have to pass the Maerose Prizzi bill to find out the corruption that lies within beneath the botox.

Resist We Much on May 23, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Does this woman have any inkling as to how the Federal Government is organized under the Constitution?
(rhetorical question)

Another Drew on May 23, 2013 at 6:42 PM

“Are you serious? Are you serious?”

talkingpoints on May 23, 2013 at 9:39 PM

This is the woman the GOP couldn’t stop when she was House Speaker.

*sigh*

SouthernGent on May 23, 2013 at 9:45 PM

If she had an IQ two point HIGHER she’d be a house plant.

Would somebody PLEASE throw a bucket of water on this idiot to make her GO AWAY … FOREVER!

Missilengr on May 23, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Lois Lerner was asked to resign but she refused.

Now she’s on paid leave.

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Well, it’s official.
She’s told so many lies she’s beginning to choke on ‘em.

soundingboard on May 24, 2013 at 3:52 AM

News Flash to Pelosi Galore: Boehner is not the top dog in this administration, Barry is, so look there first.

Wade on May 24, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Why should she resign? Everyone else who lies for Obama gets a promotion.

The Rogue Tomato on May 24, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Dim . . .

mwbri on May 24, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Bulb

mwbri on May 24, 2013 at 9:47 AM

How far will Dear Leader go to hang on to his power..?

d1carter on May 24, 2013 at 11:55 AM