Terror: British soldier reportedly beheaded by two men in attack on London street; Update: Video added

posted at 2:01 pm on May 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

A random attack by lunatics? Not quite: The prime minister’s called a meeting of his emergency response team in the aftermath.

The attackers were, allegedly, heard screaming, “Allahu akbar.”

Sky sources understand that senior police officers believe the killing was likely to be a politically-motivated Islamist terrorist attack.

Dozens of weapons – including a number of knives – and pools of blood could be seen on the ground, where a man wearing a Help for Heroes T-shirt is said to have been attacked by two men.

Sky sources say that following their attack, witnesses heard the pair chanting “Allahu akbar” – and asking passers-by to take photographs of them.

This CNN report claims the man was an active-duty soldier, or at least is presumed to be given that he was leaving a barracks when he was attacked. Evidently they hit him with a car to take him down and then, per the Telegraph, beheaded him. Jihadi ritual sacrifice, performed of course with the audience in mind:

Fred Oyat, who saw the incident from the window of his flat, tells Josie Ensor that two black or Middle Eastern men were wondering around the street, walking over the dead body on the floor:

“The two men were shouting,” he says. “They had three knives including a machete and a meat cleaver as well as an old gun.

“The white man was already dead on the floor, his fade covered in blood. He had a big neck wound and his neck was almost off.”

“They seemed to be encouraging people to take photos and waited there until police arrived as if they wanted a fight.

I can’t remember any other attack like that offhand. The M.O. for these degenerates is almost always mass casualties; to target a single person and murder him theatrically is more akin to the taped beheading of Danny Pearl, but I don’t think I’ve heard of them doing that in broad daylight on the street. Typically they kidnap the person first.

Noah Rothman tweeted this pic that he grabbed from ITV. A quote per their post: “We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you.”

That’s how close bystanders got to the suspects. As far as I know, no one else was attacked even though it took cops 20 minutes to get there; the terrorists were, apparently, intent on killing a soldier. Obvious questions: Was the soldier chosen at random or did they lie in wait for someone in particular? And are there any other members of the cell?

Stand by for updates.

Update: ITV has posted the video of one of these lunatics holding forth after the attack. Click the image to watch.


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Update: ITV’s server is overwhelmed, apparently. If you didn’t get to see the clip, the guy says something to the effect of, “I’m sorry women had to see this but our women have to watch when our nations are attacked.” Then he walks off back towards the victim.

Update: Here’s a YouTube version. “You people will never be safe.”

Update: Good point from Rod Dreher: This guy’s accent strongly suggests he’s homegrown.


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Update: Good point from Rod Dreher: This guy’s accent strongly suggests he’s homegrown.

Maybe. Maybe not. A lot of people over there learn English from British teachers. I knew a guy from Lithuania who had never been to England but sounded like Prince Charles when he spoke English.

Ronnie on May 22, 2013 at 11:50 PM

On a very different note, “Help for Heroes” rang a bell.

This was the official 2009 Help for Heroes single, Love Farewell, though I believe all monies which that particular song raises now go specifically to the Rifles “Care for Casualties”. (For anyone who watched Sharpe’s Rifles, the singer is John Tams who played Daniel Hagman.)

A quick search will turn up a fair few fundraising songs for Heroes from other years too.

LibraryGryffon on May 22, 2013 at 11:54 PM

His accent doesn’t even sound English to me, not sure why people are saying “homegrown”. Sounds more Nigerian than English.

rightmind on May 22, 2013 at 11:59 PM

‘The police shot them. They fell to the ground. Then a helicopter landed. Think it must’ve been an air ambulance.

‘The paramedics got out and I think they were working on the two men to try and keep them alive.

Priorities.

Solaratov on May 23, 2013 at 12:15 AM

Why the hell did it take 20 minutes for the police to arrive? 20 freaking minutes! Meanwhile two crazed butchers, with blood on their hands are mingling with the population (thank Allah that they didn’t start slaughtering all the idiots standing around).

This happened just outside a military barracks – and no military police or military guards responded? What the hell?

London is fortunate that the death toll didn’t exceed 1.

Hill60 on May 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM

The British are fed up – and not so much at the barbarians themselves but at the politically correct BS their political elites have foisted upon them. I highly recommend a read through the comments:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/10073462/The-savage-attack-in-Woolwich-must-not-shake-our-resolve.html

Death blow to multiculturalism in the UK? Or is it too late?

stout77 on May 23, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Now you know one of the reasons we have the Second Amendment in the United States.

No one had a gun. No one could go and help the squaddie. Britain has a fine army, maybe the best in the world, but it’s become a culture of sheep.

victor82 on May 23, 2013 at 12:21 AM

London is fortunate that the death toll didn’t exceed 1.

Hill60 on May 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM

I think the death toll should have been a total of 2 IYKWIMAITYD. ;^)

IcedTea on May 23, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Now you know one of the reasons we have the Second Amendment in the United States.

No one had a gun. No one could go and help the squaddie. Britain has a fine army, maybe the best in the world, but it’s become a culture of sheep.

victor82 on May 23, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Guns are great, but guns aren’t the totality of self-defense. There were only two poorly armed terrorists, and they were clearly idiot punks with no brains, skill, or training.

The Brits didn’t need their guns, they needed their manhood.

Yes, in a sane world, these jokers would have been dancing to the sound of gunfire. But no one had a car? Drive calmly, act like you’re just gawking like everyone else, and then lay on the pedal and put your head down?

You want me to take your picture? Sure thing. Let me get my camera out. Oops, that was my pepper spray, my bad.

IcedTea on May 23, 2013 at 12:32 AM

The killer/terrorist actually specifically references Qu’ran chapter 9 in the beginning of the video. Shocker, I know.

rightmind on May 23, 2013 at 12:38 AM

lol, god, so many Mark Wahlburgs on this thread. Kinda sad considering the circumstance of this report.

Reaps on May 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM

The British are fed up – and not so much at the barbarians themselves but at the politically correct BS their political elites have foisted upon them. I highly recommend a read through the comments:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/10073462/The-savage-attack-in-Woolwich-must-not-shake-our-resolve.html

Death blow to multiculturalism in the UK? Or is it too late?

stout77 on May 23, 2013 at 12:18 AM

EDL took to the streets to protest…and the police didn’t seem to sympathetic.

Peirs Morgan took umbrage with Dana Loesh who tweeted support for the armed female officer who shot one of the jihadi savages…Morgan banned her from his show because How Dare she a foreigner criticize Brits on self protection in the wake of a tragedy or something…

workingclass artist on May 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Work place violence?

Kenz on May 23, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Meanwhile CNN is interviewing everyone in Oklahoma they didn’t have on TV last night to find out if tornadoes are windy.

DarthBrooks on May 23, 2013 at 1:09 AM

No time to read the story this AM, but judging from a quick glance at those pics, it looks like Detroit has cleaned up their streets quite a bit.
Bravo.

justltl on May 23, 2013 at 4:37 AM

Time for a Charles Martel.

spmat on May 23, 2013 at 5:46 AM

Another case of immigrant violence/terrorism … go figure.
The UK and leftists might reconsider their fear of law abiding citizens right to carry.

kregg on May 23, 2013 at 5:59 AM

My take.

kingsjester on May 23, 2013 at 6:46 AM

These guys aren’t “lunatics.” They are evil.

One good guy (or gal) with a concealed weapon could have stopped this situation quickly. It took 20 minutes for the police to arrive — and in the meantime, the murderers boldly walked around, ranting to passersby.

The murderers knew they were in no danger from civilians who might be armed. Because Britain has taken that right away from its citizens.

I, too, would like to know why soldiers from the nearby military facility didn’t come — 20 minutes is a long time. Perhaps they aren’t allowed to have weapons either?

KyMouse on May 23, 2013 at 7:19 AM

WARNING TO BRITS……Prince Charles is a HUGE Muslim sympathizer.

Pray for Queen Elizabeth’s long life and good health.

Islam is hungry and wants to eat you alive……….and you walk by oblivious like the lady with the sunglasses.

PappyD61 on May 23, 2013 at 7:39 AM

My uncle was one of the soldiers that liberated Dachau. A bigger than life soldier throughout my childhood that never showed emotion. On his way out of this lifeone day he told me about the horrific experience and, of all the things he saw in combat, and he saw a lot including D-day, nothing ever touched him like this did.

The commnanding officer sent them into the town (which was right next to the town)and ordered all of them to come into the camp. They put many of them to work and had some feed and bathe the vicitms.

Most of the germans in this village pleaded ignorance although the screams and the smell, which my uncle said was worse than anything in combat, would have been omnipresent. Most of the germans were not rabid nazis or actively killing these people but the fact they did nothing make them as bad, in my uncle’s eyes, as the scum that were actually doing it.

History is just repeating itself with this “religion”. Most muslims don’t beleive in hacking soldiers to death in broad daylight but few, if any, ever do anything about stopping it. Jsut like the germans were afraid to speak up against the nazis the muslims are afraid to speak up against their leaders.

These evil and vile scum aren’t going away even though the politically correct wish them to go away and appease them. It will work as well now as it did for Neville Chamberlin.

acyl72 on May 23, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Note how passive bystanders were. In the UK, if someone had grabbed a cricket bat out of their car and attacked those men in the 20 minutes after in order to subdue them, they would have been criminally charged for “assault with an offensive weapon”.

This passivity is what the Liberals want, because it is the ultimate in government control of all power.

Note too, that when we import people from barbaric parts of the world into nations of ever increasing wussification, the barbarians will take over.

Spartacus on May 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Islam….’peaceful, tolerant religion’

‘Al Qaeda is on the run’…

‘There is no ‘War on Terror”…

‘PC’…’Apologizing’…the idea that trying not to ‘offend’ Islamic Extremists who want to kill us will make them change their hearts and minds.

…all of these are the messages our politicians, for the most part – especially this President, is telling us….maybe they even believe it. Ridiculous. Calling the Fort Hood terrorist attack a case of ‘workplace violence’ in an attempt not to anger / offend the estremists who want to kill us did not work, as evident by the Boston bombing.

Islam is anything BUT a peaceful religion. The goal of Islam? Convert everyone to Islam…those who don’t die…period.

For all the Extremists out there…
- When Mohammed died, they planted him in the ground, & his bones decomposed to dust. When Jesus died, on the 3rd day he arose.
- My God gave everyone free will, loves everyone, but wants us to come to Him on our own…in your religion Allah must rely on thugs to bomb, behead, intimidate, & FORCE people to come to him. You kill women & children…in the name of a ‘loving’ god?! With every attack, every bombing, every attack like this on this soldier you prove Allah is a disgrace, a joke…IF ALLAH is who you represent & approves of what you are doing!

Islamic Extremism is a DISEASE & thugs like this are nothing but carriers. There are some people who offer no socially redeeming value, offer nothing to society, and simply need to be put down like a rabid dog. The guy who kidnapped the 3 girls – raped/tortured them for 10 years – he’s a great example. These terrorist thugs are 2 more examples.

easyt65 on May 23, 2013 at 8:00 AM

You want me to take your picture? Sure thing. Let me get my camera out. Oops, that was my pepper spray, my bad.

IcedTea on May 23, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Pepper spray is banned .

EnglishRogue on May 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

…if someone had grabbed a cricket bat out of their car…

Concealed…Weapons…Permit!

If Brits were allowed to own / carry guns, someone could have just pulled out a 9mil & sent both of them to their 70 Virgins…

easyt65 on May 23, 2013 at 8:09 AM

There is a lot more details and better accounts of this story if you read the UK papers, such as Daily News UK. Yes, this seems to be radical and the two men were Muslim immigrants. The papers had no problem writing it or at least saying this seemed to be related to radical Muslims. Muslims in the UK were commenting on the stories, condemning these men, as well as calling them radical to their religion (where in the US we would only hear criticism that we even related the religion to the act) Muslims Brits were the first to put flowers down at the sight and openly condemn it. Why don’t we hear that in the US from our Muslim population when this occurs in places like Fort Hood and Boston?

Also, there were some very heroic women who were involved. One woman jumped off the bus to help the soldier while the men with machetes were still there. Other women tried to shield the soldier’s body with their own because the monsters were trying to take videos of the corpse. Brave women in that town need to be commended.

LadyGator88 on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 AM

His accent doesn’t even sound English to me, not sure why people are saying “homegrown”. Sounds more Nigerian than English.

He’s likely spent a lot of time in East London or thereabouts (but who knows, maybe he was born and raised in Shropshire). Decent chance of what’s referred to in Britain as “Afro-Caribbean” heritage, but could just as easily be a son of recent immigrants from Africa proper.

Grunchy Cranola on May 23, 2013 at 8:20 AM

I must admit – I need to leave home, so I did not read all 6 pages – but I viewed the video.

Am I the only person who sees the absurdity of a man saying “This will continue until you leave us alone.” On the streets of LONDON?

People in the western civilized world (see Sweden and France for other examples) – need to wake up – innocents are being killed, this is not going to get better until these people are tried and executed for crimes against humanity – and the lesser criminals deported home.

OT – for those discussing the Zimmerman case – Bing it – May 14, 2013 – the defense is going after the report by the one ‘expert’ who identified the screams as Martins – he hears things (Martin begging and Zimmerman quoting scripture) that no one else has ever heard in the tape. Another article said that due to the one witness testimony (police and in the grand jury) to the fact that Martin was attacking ‘all MMA’ style – the case is unraveling like a cheap sweater. The Zimmerman story is like the IRS scandal report – too much more important ‘news’(such as who Rush Limbaugh called a name this week) that it can’t be reported.

jackal40 on May 23, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Note too, that when we import people from barbaric parts of the world into nations of ever increasing wussification, the barbarians will take over.

Spartacus on May 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Yet our government continues to invite them in by the planeload. There is a huge Somali community in Minnesota, tens of thousands of Muslim “refugees” (meaning they immediately start collecting welfare checks) living there. They have nothing in common with Americans — don’t respect our culture, laws, values, religion, government, courts, etc., — and quite a few of them have already been caught either committing or plotting terrorist acts against us. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/05/judge-davis-and-the-muslim-american-muddle.php

But our idiotic government, instead of slowing down and taking a look at the wisdom of continuing to import huge numbers of non-self-supporting foreigners who hate us and everything we stand for, just tells us we’re “bigots” for wanting a rational immigration policy.

This will not end well, for any of us.

AZCoyote on May 23, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Home grown.

bofh on May 23, 2013 at 8:52 AM

I have absolutely no idea whether
this link will show up, but evidently SOME British Muslims are denouncing this crime quite loudly.

Respectfully,

Brian P.

pendell2 on May 23, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Pepper spray is banned .

EnglishRogue on May 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Men are banned, too, apparently.

There are any number of improvised weapons that could have been used – Great Britain can’t ban everything.

Cleavers are great for butchery (running over someone first, them chopping them up), but they aren’t good weapons for fighting. Especially when you’re an idiot running your mouth that allows random people to walk up to you.

Why didn’t any of these Brits come up to them, claiming they were down with the jihad too, and then jam a pen in their neck when they least suspect it? Why weren’t people throwing canned goods and rocks and metal office supplies from a place of cover?

But none of the men were thinking about these things. They were instead thinking “I hope that never happens to me.”

They, like so many, have been conditioned, trained, to stand by and wait helplessly for someone else to do something.

IcedTea on May 23, 2013 at 9:30 AM

The British are fed up – and not so much at the barbarians themselves but at the politically correct BS their political elites have foisted upon them. I highly recommend a read through the comments:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/10073462/The-savage-attack-in-Woolwich-must-not-shake-our-resolve.html

Death blow to multiculturalism in the UK? Or is it too late?

stout77 on May 23, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Except they keep voting for the same political elites because they promise them welfare, gun free London, and other politically correct B.S.

It is too late for London, probably England (Ireland and Scotland maybe not…yet). There are areas of London where shari’a law is all but enforced as the law of the land, no-go neighborhoods where free people cannot go without running into hassles or worse.

The low rate of births in Western nations and the high rate of immigration from Muslim countries (coupled with their higher birth rates) makes it a mathematically inevitable conclusion.

The same thing is going to happen here, too. See parts of Michigan and Minnesota.

englishqueen01 on May 23, 2013 at 9:32 AM

but evidently SOME British Muslims are denouncing this crime quite loudly.

Respectfully,

Brian P.

pendell2 on May 23, 2013 at 9:17 AM

I’m sorry, I can’t hear them since they’re being drowned out by their own precious Quran.

IcedTea on May 23, 2013 at 9:34 AM

There is a lot more details and better accounts of this story if you read the UK papers, such as Daily News UK. Yes, this seems to be radical and the two men were Muslim immigrants. The papers had no problem writing it or at least saying this seemed to be related to radical Muslims. Muslims in the UK were commenting on the stories, condemning these men, as well as calling them radical to their religion (where in the US we would only hear criticism that we even related the religion to the act) Muslims Brits were the first to put flowers down at the sight and openly condemn it. Why don’t we hear that in the US from our Muslim population when this occurs in places like Fort Hood and Boston?

Also, there were some very heroic women who were involved. One woman jumped off the bus to help the soldier while the men with machetes were still there. Other women tried to shield the soldier’s body with their own because the monsters were trying to take videos of the corpse. Brave women in that town need to be commended.

LadyGator88 on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Thank you for for being a tad moe insightful than others by actually following up the details rather than speculating with minimal information. (From a grateful Brit)

callingallcomets on May 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Also, there were some very heroic women who were involved. One woman jumped off the bus to help the soldier while the men with machetes were still there. Other women tried to shield the soldier’s body with their own because the monsters were trying to take videos of the corpse. Brave women in that town need to be commended.

LadyGator88 on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Unfortunately far more just stood by like sheep awaiting the authorities to arrive. Pathetic.

roy_batty on May 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM

British soldier reportedly beheaded by two men in attack on London street;

Jolly Olde England use to know how to handle despicable personages such as these…public hanging, draw and quartereing, flogging, pillory…thses were very effective in thee days of olde…and prevented recurrences and copycats..

Liberalism undermined common sense in latent modern Great Britain and needs to be gutted from the body politic… :)

BigSven on May 23, 2013 at 9:58 AM

One day people will come to realize that ethnic(White) nationalism is the ONLY political philosophy that makes sense. Anything less is suicidal. Literally.

abobo on May 23, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Unfortunately far more just stood by like sheep awaiting the authorities to arrive. Pathetic.

roy_batty on May 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM

I wonder why, out of all those sheep, someone with a CCW didn’t just shoot the psychos?
Oh ya – people in the UK aren’t allowed to have guns – just like the Dems want us to be……

dentarthurdent on May 23, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Jolly Olde England use to know how to handle despicable personages such as these…public hanging, draw and quartereing, flogging, pillory…thses were very effective in thee days of olde…and prevented recurrences and copycats..

These days they handle it by telling British soldiers not to wear their uniforms in public if they’re going to be out in public alone.

Beyond pathetic.

AZCoyote on May 23, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Are the personal in the military allowed to carry guns in the UK? Because gee no one is allowed to have guns there and what did he use instead?

phatfawzi on May 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM

My take.

kingsjester on May 23, 2013 at 6:46 AM

After reading the link I can only think of one word…cockroaches. When it is common for a “family” to consist of 7-10 children with no means of support you would think any rational society would say enough and wake up before it’s too late.

PatriotPete on May 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Muslims in the UK were commenting on the stories, condemning these men, as well as calling them radical to their religion (where in the US we would only hear criticism that we even related the religion to the act) Muslims Brits were the first to put flowers down at the sight and openly condemn it. Why don’t we hear that in the US from our Muslim population when this occurs in places like Fort Hood and Boston?

Why do you care what Muslims have to say about these attacks? Obama spoke out and condemned the actions of the IRS. Please, spare me. Liars lie. It is all about the ideology, regardless of what people say or how they posture. If you endorse the Quran as a book to live by, you are part of the problem. If you vote Democrat, don’t claim you are pro-life. Spare me.

Also, there were some very heroic women who were involved. One woman jumped off the bus to help the soldier while the men with machetes were still there. Other women tried to shield the soldier’s body with their own because the monsters were trying to take videos of the corpse. Brave women in that town need to be commended.

LadyGator88 on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 AM

When the bravest people are women, that says a lot. The men should be publicly shamed. Judges 4:8-9

IcedTea on May 23, 2013 at 10:35 AM

The problem has always and continues to be wishful thinking & ignorance, that this sort of behavior is inspired only by the radical Islamic fervor of a few nutcases, and that although the Islamic Trojan Horse has already emptied into the sucker-hearted West, which mostly never bothered to study the beast, Western values will forever triumph. But it’s not radical Islam but simply Islam whose direct words from Allah command
Quran 47:4-  “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers,  strike off their heads…”
 Q 9:123:  “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.”
Q 8:12- I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”

As the Muslim population grows in the sucker-hearted West there will be even more angry Muslims reading these commands, which can never be changed.

Chessplayer on May 23, 2013 at 10:36 AM

After reading the link I can only think of one word…cockroaches. When it is common for a “family” to consist of 7-10 children with no means of support you would think any rational society would say enough and wake up before it’s too late.

PatriotPete on May 23, 2013 at 10:27 AM

The problem is, those 7-10 children will grow up to be reliable Labour Party voters and the Labour Party knows it.

Analogous to Mexicans and our democratic party.

slickwillie2001 on May 23, 2013 at 10:39 AM

The low rate of births in Western nations and the high rate of immigration from Muslim countries (coupled with their higher birth rates) makes it a mathematically inevitable conclusion.

The same thing is going to happen here, too. See parts of Michigan and Minnesota.

englishqueen01 on May 23, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Which begs the question: If we, the citizens of the West, or Christendom, think we have a superior culture, why are we not having enough children to ensure that our culture persists? Is Jerry Springer really that important?

JSGreg3 on May 23, 2013 at 10:48 AM

“Michael Adebolaj, 28, had reportedly been looked at during probes into extremism in recent years – and was also known to hate preachers Anjem Choudary and Omar Bakri.

School friends said Adebolajo changed his name to Mujaheed and was fixated with warped extreme Islamic ideals after being radicalised.

His worried devout Christian parents moved home to a Lincolnshire village to get him away from radicals

Last night Muslim sources identified Adebolajo – who is claimed to be from a devout Christian family but converted to Islam in 2003 – as the man in The Sun’s video taken minutes after the soldier was hacked to death…”

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4939124/Woolwich-terror-suspect-revealed-sources-name-man-as-Michael-Adebolajo.html#ixzz2U7xqc87W

workingclass artist on May 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Homegrown…

“The second attacker has not yet been identified – although police sources indicated that he too was British and of Nigerian descent.

The names of both men appeared in MI5 counter-terrorism operations – but neither were viewed as key figures.

At least one is understood to have tried to travel overseas to fight jihad in recent years.

Adeboloja, 28, was born in Lambeth, south London, in 1985 to a Christian family of Nigerian descent.”

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4939124/Woolwich-terror-suspect-revealed-sources-name-man-as-Michael-Adebolajo.html#ixzz2U7yYDFpS

workingclass artist on May 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Peirs Morgan took umbrage with Dana Loesh who tweeted support for the armed female officer who shot one of the jihadi savages…Morgan banned her from his show because How Dare she a foreigner criticize Brits on self protection in the wake of a tragedy or something…

workingclass artist on May 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM

LOL, hilarious. The hypocrisy is almost certainly lost him, too.

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Note how passive bystanders were. In the UK, if someone had grabbed a cricket bat out of their car and attacked those men in the 20 minutes after in order to subdue them, they would have been criminally charged for “assault with an offensive weapon”.

This passivity is what the Liberals want, because it is the ultimate in government control of all power.

Spartacus on May 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM

I think this is precisely the goal – both there, and here. Pacification of the peasants. It will mean that when something happens like this attack, that your citizens will stand around like sheep for the most part, but that’s a small price to pay, politically, to know that as a government, you really do have complete control over the populace, no questions asked.

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM

I think this is precisely the goal – both there, and here. Pacification of the peasants. It will mean that when something happens like this attack, that your citizens will stand around like sheep for the most part, but that’s a small price to pay, politically, to know that as a government, you really do have complete control over the populace, no questions asked.

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Pacification? This is the left’s ultimate goal for us peasants.

JSGreg3 on May 23, 2013 at 11:10 AM

They initially crashed the car into the poor victim.Then got out of the car,people thought it was a car accident at first and they were dragging him away.The hacking happened quickly.

Then they just stopped , some people were stunned,some did approach them including sitting on the floor praying with the victim.
A cub scout leader argued with the killer.He claimed ,they wanted to start a war in London tonite. Her reply, “It is only you versus many people, you are going to lose.”

It’s very upsetting here at the moment,the soldier hasn’t been named
yet.So please stop using this tragedy to make sweeping generalization about the British and sitting in judgement over the witnesses and police.

We have had act’s of terrorism on our streets for decades ,we know what to do.

mags on May 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Not entirely relevant, but Sting’s song “Childrens Crusade” keeps coming to mind.

the children of England would never be slaves
they’re trapped on the wire, and dying in waves
the flower of England face down in the mud
and stained in the blood of a whole generation

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Oh ya – people in the UK aren’t allowed to have guns – just like the Dems want us to be……

dentarthurdent on May 23, 2013 at 10:09 AM

You might be surprised to find out that fixed blade knives, ones remarkably similar to the one used, are banned in London.

roy_batty on May 23, 2013 at 11:33 AM

roy_batty on May 23, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Love that nick, by the way. Great movie.

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Why the hell did it take 20 minutes for the police to arrive? 20 freaking minutes! Meanwhile two crazed butchers, with blood on their hands are mingling with the population (thank Allah that they didn’t start slaughtering all the idiots standing around).

This happened just outside a military barracks – and no military police or military guards responded? What the hell?

London is fortunate that the death toll didn’t exceed 1.

Hill60 on May 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Amazing that whoever took that video didn’t fear for his/her life, that close to a raving lunatic armed with two large knives. While he yells his threats while waving his knives, a woman walks up behind him and passes close to him, oblivious to his rant and his knives–what was SHE thinking?

Meanwhile, the perp with the knives is bragging about it on camera! Doesn’t he stop to think that whoever took the video will turn it over to police who can identify the suspect and capture him? Does he honestly think he can get away with this?

Steve Z on May 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

I’d bet the only reaction from f@cktard US Congressmen is how this horrible event will impact their “comprehensive immigration reform”!

Flake
Graham
Hatch
Rubio

Who’d I forget?

roy_batty on May 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Love that nick, by the way. Great movie.

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

We’ve seen things our grandparents wouldn’t believe…..

roy_batty on May 23, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Meanwhile, the perp with the knives is bragging about it on camera! Doesn’t he stop to think that whoever took the video will turn it over to police who can identify the suspect and capture him? Does he honestly think he can get away with this?

Steve Z on May 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

It seems clear (to me) that they fully intended to wait for the police to arrive – either to milk the incident for as much publicity as possible, and/or to take out a few police in the process, and/or to experience martyrdom in ‘suicide by cop’. Doesn’t seem to be any interest or plan to ‘not’ get caught.

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Old/busted:
 

Even in the last few days numerous children have killed their siblings with there own guns.
 
This is what you should be discussing and don’t reference,if you really think you have achieved anything or made any point it is a very sad reflection of your nation.
 
mags on May 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM

 
New two-weeks-later hotness:
 

So please stop using this tragedy to make sweeping generalization about the British and sitting in judgement over the witnesses and police.
 
mags on May 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM

rogerb on May 23, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Meanwhile, the perp with the knives is bragging about it on camera! Doesn’t he stop to think that whoever took the video will turn it over to police who can identify the suspect and capture him? Does he honestly think he can get away with this?

Steve Z on May 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

It seems clear (to me) that they fully intended to wait for the police to arrive – either to milk the incident for as much publicity as possible, and/or to take out a few police in the process, and/or to experience martyrdom in ‘suicide by cop’. Doesn’t seem to be any interest or plan to ‘not’ get caught.

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 11:49 AM

‘Getting caught’ would not have been a big deal. He would simply move from one government facility where he was fed by the government into another. The latter would have even more muzlims and he could spend all day reading the coran.

Perhaps he preferred virgins in the muzlim version of heaven.

slickwillie2001 on May 23, 2013 at 12:16 PM

rogerb on May 23, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Really? Really?
I would expect better,totally out of context and you know it,but carry
on using this horrific death to make some sort of point which proves a sad reflection of you

mags on May 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM

I can’t remember any other attack like that offhand.

Afghanistan

In February 2008 a Birmingham man was jailed for life for plotting to kidnap and kill a British Muslim soldier.

Parviz Khan admitted planning to lure the soldier off the streets with the promise of drugs – then film his beheading.

He was described in court as having ‘the most violent and extreme Islamist views’, and the judge said his aim was to deter any Muslim from joining the British Army.

Khan was ordered to serve at least 14 years in jail.

From the same excellent DailyMail article

Last night Newsnight correspondent Richard Watson said: ‘I received a very interesting phone call from a source who knows the British jihadi scene very well and [he] said that one of the attackers was Nigerian in origin, has been living in the UK for many years, [and] was radicalised by the Islamist group Al Muhajiroun [a banned extremist group] in 2003.

‘He suggested to me that just last year this young man was stopped or arrested … on his way to join Al Shabaab in Somalia.’

This is the MO of the headchoppers all over the world. Phillipines, India, Africa. There is an understood approval in many religious centers An eye for an eye.

The UK DailyMail has become the finest news reporting service on the web. They scour for the details, and report what they find. They have the best photo coverage of the OK tornados, for instance

entagor on May 23, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Even in the last few days numerous children have killed their siblings with there own guns.
 
This is what you should be discussing and don’t reference,if you really think you have achieved anything or made any point it is a very sad reflection of your nation.
 
mags on May 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM

 
rogerb on May 23, 2013 at 11:55 AM

 

Really? Really?
I would expect better,totally out of context and you know it,but carry
on using this horrific death to make some sort of point which proves a sad reflection of you
 

mags on May 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM

 

The “out of context” complaints are always the most comical. Click the link. They’re your own words, quoted directly.
 
Sorry you don’t like the things you’ve said, and sorry we expect you to live up to your own standards.
 
(Or sorry you don’t understand what “out of context” means, I suppose.)

rogerb on May 23, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Daniel Greenfield sums up the problems in Londonistan, and, yes, it is the unassimilated immigrants.
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/05/afghanistan-comes-to-london.html

onlineanalyst on May 23, 2013 at 1:18 PM

rogerb on May 23, 2013 at 12:54 PM

I have no interest in your comments.
I am on my way to church with my children.The off duty soldier who was targeted because he had a ‘Help for Hero’s’ T-shirt on lived near me,so there is a service .

Do you want to send Condolences? Thought not

mags on May 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I have no interest in your comments.

You have shown a profound interest in his comments. Are you done acting like an impartial observer while trying to score political points?

Most people aren’t as stupid as you are.

tom daschle concerned on May 23, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Do you want to send Condolences? Thought not
 
mags on May 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM

 

Since you mention it, yes, please. How will you tell them? Will you quietly and tearfully tell them an anonymous “laughing-stock” Yank from a political blog that you make fun of on your facebook page sends his condolences?
 

You are correct 3% of crimes in the U.S is carried out without guns
…you will be a laughing stock to those who read,the same as you are here because have forwarded Roger’s theory on guns on my facebook and i’m getting some funny comments on you and your sums,ignorance and Yank DNA in general
 
mags on May 10, 2013 at 6:44 AM

 
Seriously, how will you phrase it if you get to talk to the family? I’m very interested.
 
Or were you just saying that to deflect from your hypocrisy on politicizing deaths and you’re hoping personal attacks will change the subject? You tend to make a bit of a habit out of that, btw:
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/04/an-armed-march-on-washington-lets-not/comment-page-6/#comment-6953316
 
Again, sorry you don’t like your hypocrisy pointed out. Say, have you met verbaluce?
 
And of course anyone affected has my condolences. Nowhere have I ever said anything that would contradict that (get it?). FWIW, I reject any and all violence outright, and I especially detest violence like that is committed, encouraged, and facilitated by religious zealots of any kind.
 
Hey, that reminds me of something we once talked about.

rogerb on May 23, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Islam has been at War with ALL non-Muslims inhabitants since 622 A.D.

When did this piece of brutal reality start to vanish from the self-defense apparatus of non-Muslim humanity?

When did people in the non-Islamic lands forget that Islam is their sworn, militant enemy and start to blithely invite them into their countries instead of repelling them, as had been done for the previous 13 centuries?

How do you lose a healthy combination of historical sanity and primal self-preservation?

When did Islamo-nesia strike the West?

1949?

Thanks to a deadly intersection of cheap Arab oil and the nuclear Soviet threat?

Deservedly the Soviet Union has been thrown onto the ash heap of Utopian Lunacies, but the tactical pretense of having an ally in Islam persists.

A million infidels will have to die in one attack to wake the West from this p.c.-fueled trance, it seems.

Reality is no longer operative, ~not even with a soldier slaughtered in the streets by invited Islamic guests.

Or legs blown off by shrapnel bombs detonated by invited Islamic guests at a Boston Festival of Health.

Or a Dutch film-maker and humorist butchered and shot by an invited Islamic guest as he bicycled to work on the street of his hometown of Amsterdam?

The truth about Islam is forbidden… because it has not killed enough kaffirs.

Yet.

And we invite it. And thus deserve it.

As instinct-numbed fools.

profitsbeard on May 24, 2013 at 1:28 AM

We have had act’s of terrorism on our streets for decades ,we know what to do.

mags on May 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM

I’m a little late to the party, but the fact that you’ve had acts of terrorism on your streets for decades suggests to me on its face that Brits don’t know what to do.

gryphon202 on May 24, 2013 at 8:11 AM

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