Breaking: FBI shoots, kills person of interest in Boston bombing after man attacks agent; Update: Linked to triple homicide?

posted at 7:49 am on May 22, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Hmmmm:

One of two men allegedly being questioned in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings was shot and killed by an FBI agent in Florida on Tuesday, sources told WESH-TV.

According to NBC News, a special agent was interviewing the suspect regarding his connections to bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev and other extremists. The suspect, who was not immediately identified by officials, was originally cooperative, died when he was shot after attacking the agent, NBC News confirmed. …

“(The FBI) took me and my friend, the suspect that got killed. They were talking to us, both of us, right? And they said they need him for a little more, for a couple more hours, and I left, and they told me they’re going to bring him back. They never brought him back,” Taramiv said.

“He felt inside he was going to get shot,” Taramiv said about Todashev. “I told him, ‘Everything is going to be fine, don’t worry about it.’ He said, ‘I have a really bad feeling.’”

According to the dead man’s friends, the FBI had been taking an interest in all of them.  Why?  As the video above notes, Todashev had Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s phone number on his cell phone, and the friend admits that he and Tsarnaev spoke about a month before the Boston Marathon bombing.  According to sources talking with WCVB in Boston (which has another video report), contact was made later than that:

The man claims he and Todashev were interviewed by the FBI for nearly three hours on Tuesday. The friend said he left the interview, and when he came back to the apartment he found that there had been a shooting. Todashev was killed, WESH reported.

The FBI confirmed that a person was shot and killed, but would not disclose details about the investigation. …

Sources said Todashev spoke with Tsarnaev one week before the April 15 attack.

The FBI has had quite a bit of time to run down the various leads from phone records relating to the Tsarnaevs, as well as the initial interrogations with Dzhokhar before he got Mirandized.  If this was a hot lead, the timing seems a little odd.  On the other hand, if this was just a routine tying-up-loose-ends effort, why did Todashev get combative (if that’s what happened)?  Why did he tell his friends that he had “a bad feeling” and start making arrangements for his friends to contact his family once he realized that the FBI had taken an interest in him?

It’s a strange development in an already strange case.

Update: The Boss Emeritus notes that Todashev had planned to return to Chechnya, but that the FBI “strongly advised” him not to do that.

Khusen Taramov says the day that federal agents identified the Tsarnaev brothers as the Boston bombing suspects, FBI agents came to the apartment complex and started questioning a few people of Chechnyan descent. “One day they started questioning us, next day after the bombing, not the bombing , after they found out the bombers were Chechnyans, and they started following us, watching us, they pretty much told the guy from his apartment and they start following us, watching us like everyday,” said Taramov.

Taramov says Todashev met Tamerlan Tsarnaev in Boston and the two had hung out a few times. Taramov says Todashev met with FBI agents last night and it was supposed to be their last meeting because he was planning to fly back to Chechnya last night. He says the plane ticket was purchased before the Boston bombings but federal agents strongly advised him not to go home.

“He cancelled the tickets because, the FBI had been like, I don’t know, they’ve been pushing him, you know what I’m saying. They’ve been pushing him they say don’t leave; don’t leave so he decided to stay. But we had a feeling, worst case scenario something like that was going to happen. You know what I mean,” said Taramov.

Something must have piqued the FBI’s interest, and not just the fact that Todashev was Chechnyan — and something must have provoked Todashev to get violent, when cooperation would probably have put him back on a plane to Chechnya in short order.  Michelle also notes, as did the original story, that Todashev also fought in the MMA ranks, as did Tsarnaev.

Update: According to CNN, this wasn’t just a tying-up-loose-ends exercise:

A man fatally shot overnight by the FBI in Orlando, Florida, was being investigated for a possible connection to the Boston bombings, a U.S. law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the Boston Marathon case told CNN.

The man who was shot, Ibragim Todashev, knew both of the Tsarnaev brothers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar, the official said.

The FBI shot in self defense in an incident at Todashev’s house, the official said.

Agents were led to Todashev, who had once lived in Boston, “through investigative leads,” the official said.

That lone-wolf theory is starting to look a little shaky.

Update: NPR has this tidbit:

A source with knowledge of what happened tells our colleagues that the FBI agent was conducting an interview related to the bombings investigation when the individual being questioning became violent. Other law enforcement personnel were there as well. During the confrontation, the source tells the NPR correspondents, “the individual was killed.”

Update: NBC reports that Todashev had become a person of interest in the 2011 triple homicide in Boston that investigators now believe may have involved Tsarnaev (via R. S. McCain):

The man who was shot, Ibragim Todashev, 27, was not suspected of having played any role in the bombing that killed three people and injured scores more in April, they said.

Instead, law enforcement officials said Todashev was being questioned as part of the FBI’s effort to find and talk to anyone who had any contact with Tsarnaev, the older bombing suspect.

Todashev, they say, had spent some time in the Boston area, where he was a cage fighter, and knew Tsarnaev there.  Investigators were also looking at whether Todashev might have had any role in a triple murder in 2011, in which three men were murdered in an apartment in Waltham, Mass.

Their throats had been cut, and their bodies were covered with marijuana.  No suspects have been arrested in that case.

Officials say FBI agents were questioning Todashev on Tuesday.  He was cooperative at first, they say, but late Tuesday night, he attacked the agent, who shot and killed him.

However …

The officials say Todashev had some connections with radical Chechen rebels, but they say it’s not clear whether he had any role in radicalizing Tsarnaev.

Hmmmmm.

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Just keep your nose clean and the FBI won’t bother you.

SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 10:32 AM

HAL did you hack SP’s account.

RickB on May 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Not really what you expect with a couple of ‘lone wolves’ when you come right down to it. Almost like they were extensions of a foreign backed and supported terrorist organization helped by a regime spreading radical islam. Amazing how that works, now, isn’t it?

ajacksonian on May 22, 2013 at 10:13 AM

A foreign backed and supported terrorist organization helped by a regime spreading radical islam?

Are you referring to AQ, or to the Obama administration? These days, it’s so hard to tell the difference.

AZCoyote on May 22, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Pharaoh decreed that they acted alone so any death is of no consequence once the truth has been written.

This killing should not even be considered as a fact and will be ignored to preserve the ultimate tidiness and complete purity of Pharaoh’s truth.

It will not sully the media reports now that the real history has been decreed and any other thought or word is seditious and treason.

IlikedAUH2O on May 22, 2013 at 10:45 AM

I never understood the insult “dicknose” until now. He must’ve gotten it a lot.

ex_machina on May 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Another lonewolf..?

d1carter on May 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Just what did he know about White Water? Did he know Vince Foster ?
How convenient, an agent of Obama’s government felt “threatened”.
Loose lips sink ships administrations.

JohnFLob on May 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Why are the idiots running this country allowing Chechens into our country?

OxyCon on May 22, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Religion ‘O Peace ® ?

Mason on May 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM

person of interest

A BS term invented by law enforcement to help them look like they are accomplishing something.

Moesart on May 22, 2013 at 11:39 AM

I never understood the insult “dicknose” until now. He must’ve gotten it a lot.

ex_machina on May 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM

It goes like this: “Is that your nose or did your pants fall down?”

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2013 at 11:42 AM

I find it funny that for the last few days every post here has been about how we can’t trust the Government yet in this case every one seems willing to believe the Governments version of events with out a single doubt.

I guess your ability to trust is based on how much you personally WANT to believe is true.

Politricks on May 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Great, saved our tax money.

jake49 on May 22, 2013 at 11:45 AM

No. There are no terrorist cells in America. None. Move along. Nothing to see here.

dczombie on May 22, 2013 at 11:47 AM

So9, when will they release details of the shooting? Next year? One thing about the feds, they drag their feet and appear to not be forthcoming.

Blake on May 22, 2013 at 11:52 AM

I think this guy was a hot head, and prone to violent reaction, and the FBI pushed him and pushed him.

Nope, couldn’t see this coming! Bt then they couldn’t see the bombings coming either.

Anyay, rest easy – this is the “smart power” that keeps you safe at night.

Tom C on May 22, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Just another reason for Rubio to walk away from the Immigration bill.

monalisa on May 22, 2013 at 9:22 AM

First off, it is not an IMMIGRATION bill, it is a BLANKET AMNESTY bill. Secondly, it is RUBIO’S bill – he helped write it, and he is the top pimp for it. Rubio is not going to walk away, because he is desperate to help obama and democrats by ramming this AMNESTY bill through.

Pork-Chop on May 22, 2013 at 11:56 AM

So was this guy on welfare too?

JEM on May 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM


I find it funny that for the last few days every post here has been about how we can’t trust the Government yet in this case every one seems willing to believe the Governments version of events with out a single doubt. I guess your ability to trust is based on how much you personally WANT to believe is true. Politricks on May 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM

B-I-N-G-O

I’m sure the govt has everything under control when it comes to important stuff like Newtown and the Boston bombing.

Now back to James Rosen’s parents being harassed by the govt, AP phone records, Fast & Furious, 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, 1,700 MRAP’s, Beghazi…

When will these boys be interviewed?

Akzed on May 22, 2013 at 12:11 PM

I do not accept at face value these initial reports. But if there were multiple witnesses, it will be difficult for them to effectively coordinate a cover story if they were up to no good, even if they planned it in advance. Assuming there is a proper investigation.

Given what has been published about the triple homicide, I can’t see how one man could do it alone. If Tamerlan did it, he had help.

novaculus on May 22, 2013 at 12:24 PM

So was this guy on welfare too?

JEM on May 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Another ‘refugee visa’ I’m guessing.

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Great news for diversity and amnesty lovers:
as a result of the fear that the recent Islamic terrorism in Boston might result in restrictions on Chechen immigration waves of new Chechen “refugees” are heading west.

Given our super-sucker “refugee” status granting system, this should likely mean eventually more diversity at future marathons here.

Chessplayer on May 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

I don’t understand how a man gets shot and killed while being interviewed by FBI? If there were multiple agents there, how was he not subdued by them w/out killing him? Something is fishy here, I think…

JAM on May 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Look what happened in London today. A couple of filthy sub-human savages have hacked a soldier to death and beheaded him on a busy street in broad daylight. It really is way past time to start kicking these animals out of the west.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329089/Two-men-hack-soldier-wearing-Help-Heroes-T-shirt-death-machetes-suspected-terror-attack-London-street-shot-police.html

Sharke on May 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

I guess your ability to trust is based on how much you personally WANT to believe is true.

Politricks on May 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Often the case.

DarkCurrent on May 22, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Look what happened in London today. A couple of filthy sub-human savages have hacked a soldier to death and beheaded him on a busy street in broad daylight. It really is way past time to start kicking these animals out of the west.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329089/Two-men-hack-soldier-wearing-Help-Heroes-T-shirt-death-machetes-suspected-terror-attack-London-street-shot-police.html

Sharke on May 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Its just satan worhipping mohammedians doing what they do best.

tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 1:21 PM

This doesn’t seem right at all.

cptacek on May 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Look what happened in London today. A couple of filthy sub-human savages have hacked a soldier to death and beheaded him on a busy street in broad daylight. It really is way past time to start kicking these animals out of the west.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329089/Two-men-hack-soldier-wearing-Help-Heroes-T-shirt-death-machetes-suspected-terror-attack-London-street-shot-police.html

Sharke on May 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Wait a tic. Guns are banned in England, aren’t they?

‘We do know a number of weapons have been seized. They include a gun, various knives, and a machete, apparently.

cptacek on May 22, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Rioters have lit fires and stoned emergency services in the suburbs of Stockholm for the third night in a row after a man was shot dead by police.

Looks like Satan’s soldiers are on the march elsewhere.

tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Ibragim Todashev “just went crazy,” and pulled a knife during his interview with the FBI, said state and federal law enforcement officials briefed on the latest strange twist in the investigation of the Boston Marathon bombing.

One official said an FBI agent was stabbed several times, although his injuries were described by the FBI as “non-life threatening.”

Okay, I can see why they shot him.

What’s with all the unforced errors? They shut down Boston to search for Dzokhar, but skip the street where he’s hiding? Then they interrogate this scumbag because he’s suspected in a stabbing homicide–apparently without searching him–and one of their agents gets stabbed by the suspect?

Come on!

ElectricPhase on May 22, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Gee, when a person attacks a law enforcement person in some circles it’s known as suicide via the police. Good going FBI get’um all.

mixplix on May 22, 2013 at 2:39 PM

I find it funny that for the last few days every post here has been about how we can’t trust the Government yet in this case every one seems willing to believe the Governments version of events with out a single doubt.

I guess your ability to trust is based on how much you personally WANT to believe is true.

Politricks on May 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM

This is why the recent IRS etc. scandals are so important: our country functions on the trust we have in the government. Law enforcement, particularly, is presumed to be honest until proven otherwise, which is why corrupt cops can keep things going for a long time (pick the scandal of your choice here).

ElectricPhase on May 22, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Incompetence seems to be the explanation of choice these days.

(cf also the suicide bombing of the CIA big-wigs in the ME (Afghanistan or Iraq?) a few years ago, in a botched scenario that no self-respecting movie producer would have allowed).

AesopFan on May 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM

“He wasn’t radical at all…”

Just a good muslim.

VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

What is it with the noses on these dudes?

SAMinVA on May 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM

What is it with the noses on these dudes?

SAMinVA on May 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Smacking your face into a dirty old carpet five times a day might have something to do with it.

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM

That’s the worst looking nose I’ve ever seen on a human face. I don’t usually notice noses, but these latest terrorists have serious rhinological issues.

happytobehere on May 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM

That’s the worst looking nose I’ve ever seen on a human face. I don’t usually notice noses, but these latest terrorists have serious rhinological issues.

happytobehere on May 22, 2013 at 6:22 PM

First cousin and closer marriage is totally mohammedian.

They gots all sorts of problems.

tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Was the murdered a citizen?

nobar on May 22, 2013 at 8:42 AM

In the video, his friend said the dead “person of interest” had just received his Green Card.

Now that he had a Green Card, the dead one had planned go back to Chechnya to visit his parents and then return to the United States.

Looks like the FBI saved the Russians the effort of having to keep an eye on another Chechen visiting from the U.S.A.

Now we need to find out who approved this guy’s Green Card after the Police had already caught him in at least 2 fights?

wren on May 22, 2013 at 7:36 PM

What’s with all the unforced errors?
ElectricPhase

I agree, this is an FBI interrogation involving a terrorist attack on US soil and they commit the rookie mistake of not searching/patting down the suspect?! It’s absolutely inexcusable. Think about all the potentially lost intelligence, not to mention creating even more fodder for the conspiracy nuts.

factsonlypls on May 22, 2013 at 8:30 PM

The guy was a MMA fighter, he had a terrible temper, he believed there was a conspiracy against him before the FBI even showed up at his door… my theory is that when the FBI agents tried to interview him he got combative and aggressive, a brawl started, and the FBI agent just shot him to defend himself. St*upider deaths have occurred in the course of law enforcement.

AlexB on May 22, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Police and FBI are trained to use deadly force when their lives are threatened. Apparently, a wheelchair bound, ink pen wielding, one armed, one legged individual was a threat to the life of this cop:

A Houston police officer shot and killed a one-armed, one-legged man in a wheelchair Saturday inside a group home after police say the double amputee threatened the officer and aggressively waved a metal object that turned out to be a pen.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/22/officer-shoots-kills-double-amputee-in-wheelchair-in-houston/#ixzz2U6mjgru8

BigAlSouth on May 23, 2013 at 5:55 AM

Why doesn’t somebody in our wonderful free press interview the FBI agent who questioned Todashev as to what happened, and what Todashev might have been asked (and answered) before he became violent?

Steve Z on May 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM

So the FBI is talking to two men, takes one of them into a room, and he suddenly becomes violent and they shoot him to death?

Sorry, I don’t buy it, and I really don’t like it. I trust the FBI no more than the IRS or any other government agency at this point. Frankly, I’m questioning the entire story.

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2013 at 2:59 PM

MadisonConservative on May 23, 2013 at 2:59 PM

I agree. Very fishy that the FBI would allow an interview to get out of control in this way. What was the trigger?

virgo on May 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM

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