Here we go: IRS official Lois Lerner to plead the Fifth at congressional hearing tomorrow

posted at 4:41 pm on May 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

Can’t do better than Popehat’s wry take:

Hey, remember when Steve Miller insisted there’s nothing illegal about the IRS targeting a particular political faction for extra scrutiny? He was wrong, potentially: There are civil-rights laws in play as well as the Hatch Act, plus some of the IRS’s own regulations for employee conduct. Lois Lerner and her lawyer know the score:

Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.

Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.

“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” said a letter by Taylor to committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa, R-Calif. The letter, sent Monday, was obtained Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times…

Since Lerner won’t answer questions, Taylor asked that she be excused from appearing, saying that would “have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her.” There was no immediate word whether the committee will grant her request.

No dice: Darrell Issa’s subpoenaing her anyway, which is precisely the right thing to do. Ask the full slate of questions, many of which will no doubt focus on the endless lies she told when this began two weeks ago, and let her sit there and refuse to answer each one serially on grounds that she might incriminate herself. Let the cable-news viewing public get a good hard dose of that tomorrow and see how it plays. By the way, if you missed Mark Hemingway’s piece yesterday about Lerner’s history at the FEC, correct that now. While there, she went after the Christian Coalition so doggedly (it was ultimately cleared after incurring huge expenses in fighting the agency) that upon hearing she’d moved to the IRS, the group’s lead counsel claims he thought, “Wow, this means the not for profit division is gearing up politically.” And now here we are.

We’re also here, courtesy of Carney’s latest briefing:

Just a day after telling reporters that chief of staff Denis McDonough had learned of the situation about a month ago, press secretary Jay Carney revealed that White House officials had consulted with the IRS on how to initially present to the public the story that the agency had targeted conservative tax-exempt groups for extra scrutiny.

There was “discussion about the possibility of a speech” by Lois Lerner, who oversaw the IRS’s work on tax-exempt groups, Carney said, and conversation about testimony by the acting commissioner of the agency and “what he would say” if asked about the issue…

The press secretary said the Treasury Department worked with Mark Childress, a deputy White House chief of staff.

Day by day, he’s admitting to a bit more White House involvement in stage managing the IG report than he’d previously let on. First he acknowledged that White House counsel had a general heads up on the report in April; then he said Kathryn Ruemmler had been told the key details about targeting conservatives; then he admitted that Ruemmler had told Obama’s chief of staff; now he’s admitting that they chatted with Treasury about how Lerner should go about fake-apologizing to the public. Sure would be nice to hear from her what input she got from Dennis McDonough, but I guess we’ll have to settle for a humiliating pleading o’ the Fifth. And incidentally, is there anyone who still seriously believes that White House senior staff were sufficiently involved in this the past few weeks that they would advise Treasury on how to frame the IG revelations for public consumption, and yet … never once mention it to Obama? Is there any coherent explanation for that apart from deliberately shielding him, even at the expense of keeping him in the dark about key developments in his own administration?

Via the Standard, two lowlights from today’s testimony by former IRS Commission Doug Shulman. He’d like you to know (a) that he’s sad but has nothing to be sorry about, and (b) like everyone else thus far, he simply has no idea who came up with the idea of focusing on conservative groups.



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Resist We Much on May 21, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Sounds like “Superman” is going to put Lois under the bus.

The ‘Rats are starting to distance themselves.

kingsjester on May 21, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Looking, but I found this:

Embattled IRS official Lois Lerner’s husband’s law firm has strong Obama connections

Resist We Much on May 21, 2013 at 5:12 PM

It’s not what you think, baby.

arnold ziffel on May 21, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Is this?

Washington Post: Lois Lerner is a registered Democrat, records show

Resist We Much on May 21, 2013 at 6:33 PM

I can’t wipe the smile off my face; with every new revelation we are one step closer to destroying the Obama myth and driving a stake into the heart of liberalism. Yes, they will try to avoid and deceive, however the truth will come out and they are done.

Tater Salad on May 21, 2013 at 6:34 PM

IRS worker used government credit card for years-long AMAZON shopping spree…Drudge Report

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/21/here-we-go-irs-official-lois-lerner-to-plead-the-fifth-at-congressional-hearing-tomorrow/

Zcat on May 21, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Sorry about the wrong link in earlier post/

IRS worker used government credit card for years-long AMAZON shopping spree…Drudge Report

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/irs-employee-amazon-shopping-spree-678435

Zcat on May 21, 2013 at 6:35 PM

“have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her.”

good, roast her all day, assasinate her character

burserker on May 21, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Is there any coherent explanation for that apart from deliberately shielding him, even at the expense of keeping him in the dark about key developments in his own administration?

elgeneralisimo has seen this play all ready…

In a letter to Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, an attorney for Patrick Cunningham, chief of the Phoenix office’s criminal division within the U.S. Attorney’s office in Arizona, said he was planning to invoke the Fifth Amendment to avoid acting as a witness against himself.

Then, poof…

“To date, the White House has steadfastly maintained that it has not had any role in advising the [Justice] Department with respect to the congressional investigation,” Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican, said in a tersely-worded seven page letter to Mr. Obama.

“The surprising assertion of executive privilege raised the question of whether that is still the case,” he said.

And finally some red shirts get the axe…

Heads are beginning to roll nearly two years after the Fast and Furious gunwalker scandal first came to light.

elgeneralisimo on May 21, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Something must up with the liberal press meeting at the WH, there are almost no stories over at HP on any of this.

Tater Salad on May 21, 2013 at 6:38 PM

She is not protecting herself alone by taking the Fifth.

I suspect there is a little collection being taken for her attorney’s fees as we speak. Maybe a nice annuity, too.

novaculus on May 21, 2013 at 6:38 PM

good, roast her all day, assasinate her character

burserker on May 21, 2013 at 6:36 PM

My view is that she is committing ‘character suicide’ with this, to coin a phrase.

Liam on May 21, 2013 at 6:41 PM

If only those pursued by the IRS could do the same.

SouthernGent on May 21, 2013 at 6:42 PM

cnn and msdnc won’t show it though, they have their squirrel called OK…..dang it…

cmsinaz on May 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM

I can’t wipe the smile off my face; with every new revelation we are one step closer to destroying the Obama myth…

Tater Salad on May 21, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Sorry Spud, don’t think it’s gonna happen. Your irrational optimism is heartening to a crusty old fart like me, but Barky is just too well defended.

I’ll settle for a zillion paper cuts that run out the clock.

Bruno Strozek on May 21, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Couldn’t the Congressmen simply ask her questions that wouldn’t require the 5th? Example: Was there ever a policy within the IRS to look closer at certain groups? Who set that policy?

Neither are a question of illegality on her behalf, therefore any taking of the 5th would put her in contempt of Congress.

Tater Salad on May 21, 2013 at 6:51 PM

So, essentially, everyone in this administration knows nothing about anything.

GarandFan on May 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Bruno Strozek on May 21, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Bruno, I understand your feelings, what I’m referring to is that little by little (a zillion paper cuts) the myth that Obama tried to build around is being destroyed and in doing so it is slowly but surely waking up people to whether they should trust their government.

Tater Salad on May 21, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Make her do it in public! NO DEALS!

It is important that the nation sees this. A great constitutional lesson on many levels.

Whitewolf7070 on May 21, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Dusty on May 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM

An employee of the People (a federal government employee) who refuses to answer questions under oath asked by elected Representatives of the People, about what how she did her job — a job paid for by the People — and about her role in the mistreatment of US citizens (the People) should not have a right to keep her job.

It should be grounds for immediate dismissal.

That said, if she is a government union member she may be protected.

farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Give her immunity and she’ll spill her guts.

Akzed on May 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM

If they feel the need to do this, they are afraid.

If they feel the need to also do this, they are very afraid.

Naturally Curly on May 21, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Courtesy of ChampionCapua over at Twitchy:

There once was hack, Lois Lerner
Who targeted those who would spurn her
With the soul of a Sith, she pleaded the 5th
If that chair was a stake, we could burn her

Anti-Control on May 21, 2013 at 7:13 PM

So we have at least one person taking the 5th at a Congressional hearing. We also have an assertion of executive privilege. What’s the over/under on Oval Office tapes? Deja vu all over again…

jclittlep on May 21, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Sorry Spud, don’t think it’s gonna happen. Your irrational optimism is heartening to a crusty old fart like me, but Barky is just too well defended.

I’ll settle for a zillion paper cuts that run out the clock.

Bruno Strozek on May 21, 2013 at 6:51 PM

I find it’s your pessimism which is irrational here – 0dumba’s House of Cards is collapsing at all corners, and even he knows he inevitable.

Anti-Control on May 21, 2013 at 7:17 PM

I’m still bugged by the fact that the IRS themselves are the ones who confessed to this issue in the first place. The timing of it was at the crescendo of the Benghazi investigation. I’m inclined to believe there is more damning information to come forth from Benghazi than from IRSGate. We’ll see.

Egfrow on May 21, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Someone here, on one of these threads, had suggested Issa at least consult with Mark Levin over all of this, since he’s been directly involved for a decade or two.

Well, Mark’s had a substitute on his radio show this week, and that got me thinking. Is this any Jewish holiday that I’m unaware of ?? That’s about the only reason I know of that Mark gets any subs.
Oooo, he’s not in OK, is he ? I just don’t know, for sure, but would LOVE it if the committee is consulting with him.

pambi on May 21, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Okay, I’m poking back in for a sec.

While making the spaghetti gravy and meatballs, it occurred to me how much longer will law-abiding Americans put up with it all. I’m not talking about revolution in the terms of Ayers and Dorn.

After all, those protests by the t p looked pretty damned mild today.

When will the tax payers simply not comply? When the ‘congress’ passes yet another amnesty? When the ‘congress’ doesn’t hold yet another agency responsible for being ‘beyond political, beyond partisianship?’ When the ‘congress’ gives a pass to the State dept. because, “well, we’re just idiots?”

Nevermind all of that “going after all the waste, fraud and abuse,” nevermind all of that–all a bunch of political hogwash. I’m wondering when the average citizen says “nope, not gonna file.”

jersey taxpayer on May 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

[farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 6:58 PM]

Yup, which is why I said she should be discharged for violating her oath of office.

Dusty on May 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Cool, but the US is NOT a democracy.

Schadenfreude on May 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Now I know how a grizzly bear feels when they wander into a salmon pool!

The posts keep getting better and better each day here. All it will take today to break HotGas is throw in a Rand Paul/Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin thread.

It just might tip over.

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Well it’s not Cruz,Paul or Palin news but…Texas is sayin’ FU to Atheists…

“It’s Christmas in May in the Texas Legislature.

The Texas Senate on Friday approved a bipartisan bill that aims to remove legal risks of saying “Merry Christmas” in Texas public schools. Traditional holiday symbols, such as a menorah or nativity scene, would also win a nod of state support so long as more than one religion and a secular symbol are also reflected.

Sen. Robert Nichols, R-Jacksonville, says teachers have been reluctant to say “Merry Christmas” under fear of facing what he calls “frivolous” lawsuits.

“Merry Christmas to you all,” Nichols said when the bill passed.

The bill now goes to Gov. Rick Perry for his consideration.”

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/05/21/texas-senate-approves-merry-christmas-bill/

workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Sad day nonetheless when that is needed. I bet our resident Harvard Law Grad could write up a pithy response to atheists, something like:

WHEREAS, Christmas Day is an official Federal holiday of the government of the United States of America, and

WHEREAS, Christmas Day is an official State holiday of the government of the State of Texas, and

WHEREAS, all public schools are government-supported schools

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, any employee of any government-supported school may speak the words “Merry Christmas” at any time they so wish.

Nutstuyu on May 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

So she is basically using the fifth amendment hide the reasons why she infringed on the 1st amendment.

Irony

The Notorious G.O.P on May 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Cool, but the US is NOT a democracy.

Schadenfreude on May 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

And…it’s not a constitutional republic anymore either.

Nutstuyu on May 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM

So let me get this straight:

Amendment I – only when you say something I like

Amendment II – oh the horror, we’re not smelly colonists or something

Amendment III – eww, those icky soldiers; make love not war!

Amendment IV – yeah, I’ve got new rubber gloves and spiffy new blue uniform that says otherwise

Amendment V – OMG this one’s for me! You’ll never get me to squeal!!!

Nutstuyu on May 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Listen up Wingnutz, this is all laughably foolish, no one cares please move your racist selves on down the street; NO laws were broken and everyone agrees the leaks had to be sealed. The POTUS didn’t know until he read about this stuff in the paper and he was asleep thru much of the Benghazi “Crisis.”

I might add that Bush appointed pretty everyone in the current Federal Government so this is his or Cheney’s fault…

The POTUS is going focus, like a laser, on J-O-B-S…Gun Control and Immigration Reform and doing the People’s Work as he was so overwhelmingly re-elected to do.

This is nothing more than a hi-tech lynching and an extra-Constitutional means of overturning a duly constituted election….If you had ANY shame in your supposedly Christian(ist) souls you’d fall on your knees and ask for Obama and Michelle’s forgiveness….

Should some of you do that whilst on-line or on the phone, we’ll know and send a Christmas card….

JFKY on May 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Nothing will happen. Various weasels will take the 5th, various low to mid level bureaucrats will “retire” (e.g. go to work for Left wing / Dem think tanks or lobbying groups), various Dem politicians will express “sadness”, “sorrow”, and state that we all “need to get to the bottom of this”. MSNBC will report none of it, and most of the other networks will mostly ignore it. The low info voters don’t read so whatever the papers, blogs, or websites post will never be seen by them anyway.
Impact on 2014 elections…minimal. Impact on 2016 elections…zero.

SunSword on May 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM

SunSword on May 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Thank you little bright ray of sunshine…we’ll all just toddle off and be grumpy…

Again glad you weren’t around in 1777, or 1863 or 1942…Man what an advisor you would have made to MLK, “No one’s gonna care what happens on that March to Selma.” “No one’s gonna care about the Bus Boycott.”

Have you got your little bunker all prepared for the INEVITABLE collapse of the Republic?

JFKY on May 21, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Give her immunity and she’ll spill her guts.
Akzed on May 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM

I’m not so sure. Right now she’s got a pretty sweet gig enforcing Obamacare for her hero. If she takes the plea, she potentially gets Obama impeached, destroys her career, reputation and the Democrat party for the next 10-20 years and becomes a pariah to leftists everywhere. She’d have to assume she’d eventually get caught anyway to accept that deal, and I’m not sure she’s all that worried about that right now.

crrr6 on May 21, 2013 at 7:58 PM

First question:

“What is the content of your prayers?”

“On the advice of my attorney, I respectfully invoke my 5th amendment rights as the answer may incriminate me”

Illegal prayers. The end is nigh.

BobMbx on May 21, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Right now she’s got a pretty sweet gig enforcing Obamacare for her hero. If she takes the plea, she potentially gets Obama impeached, destroys her career, reputation and the Democrat party for the next 10-20 years and becomes a pariah to leftists everywhere. She’d have to assume she’d eventually get caught anyway to accept that deal, and I’m not sure she’s all that worried about that right now.

crrr6 on May 21, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Lay money she AIN’T gonna be “in charge of ObamaCare” too much longer…ask Jeremiah Wright about what happens to the inconvenient people…

And that’s why digging and patience are so useful…it’s a MARATHON people, if we can dig and find evidence of HER wrongdoing it doesn’t change her RIGHT to “invoke the Fifth” but it changes her odds of doing so. Once she sees the career is OVER and that now she’s looking 2-5 and NO pension, she might be more forthcoming.

JFKY on May 21, 2013 at 8:04 PM

The most transparent corrupt administration in history.

Chris of Rights on May 21, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Now I know how a grizzly bear feels when they wander into a salmon pool!

The posts keep getting better and better each day here. All it will take today to break HotGas is throw in a Rand Paul/Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin thread.

It just might tip over.

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 5:27 PM

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/21/rand-paul-why-is-apple-being-hauled-before-congress-to-explain-its-perfectly-legal-tax-minimization-scheme/

Rand Paul: Why is Apple being hauled before Congress to explain its perfectly legal tax minimization scheme?
posted at 5:21 pm on May 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

cptacek on May 21, 2013 at 8:32 PM

So we have at least one person taking the 5th at a Congressional hearing. We also have an assertion of executive privilege. What’s the over/under on Oval Office tapes? Deja vu all over again…

jclittlep on May 21, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I would love to have a bug in ValJar’s office.

cptacek on May 21, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Is this the IRS woman with the credit card?

It says here she’s a “Managenty and Program Analust at Internal Revenue Service”.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/oseni-yetunde-a/34/183/571

claudius on May 21, 2013 at 8:40 PM

cptacek on May 21, 2013 at 8:32 PM

I am PRAYING for a Sarah Palin Facebook posting to make the HA pages….of the deliciously sweet bitter tears of Bluegill and others….

JFKY on May 21, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Holy cow…this might be a Troll F#*kTard free record post.

Or did I miss one ?

BigWyo on May 21, 2013 at 8:58 PM

the obama minions have no character…they are satans own…soul less, dark hearts and thirsting continuously for power

crosshugger on May 21, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Say, here’s something interesting..When’s the last time anyone heard a peep out of Debbie Downer??

She’s the head of the DNC…don’t you think she’d have some input on any of this???

BigWyo on May 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM

This is why I don’t want to be on a donor list in spite of Mac Baccus thinking every organization should keep one and disclose it on demand. A lot of the people in and around this administration keep a roll of their enemies and don’t see a thing wrong with using whatever means they can to make their enemies pay. When caught, they go all Sergent Shultz…they “know nothing,” saw nothing. They didn’t do it. In the words of Bart Simpson, “Nobody saw me do it. You can’t prove a thing.” Even worse, when not denying they did it, they admit they did something outrageous, even unconstitutional, but deny they did anything wrong

limmo on May 21, 2013 at 9:04 PM

I don’t know if this has been linked, but there’s more to come on Benghazi.

PJM EXCLUSIVE: Ex-Diplomats Report New Benghazi Whistleblowers with Info Devastating to Clinton and Obama

More whistleblowers will emerge shortly in the escalating Benghazi scandal, according to two former U.S. diplomats who spoke with PJ Media Monday afternoon.

These whistleblowers, colleagues of the former diplomats, are currently securing legal counsel because they work in areas not fully protected by the Whistleblower law.

According to the diplomats, what these whistleblowers will say will be at least as explosive as what we have already learned about the scandal, including details about what really transpired in Benghazi that are potentially devastating to both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

The former diplomats inform PJM the new revelations concentrate in two areas — what Ambassador Chris Stevens was actually doing in Benghazi and the pressure put on General Carter Ham, then in command of U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) and therefore responsible for Libya, not to act to protect jeopardized U.S. personnel.

Stevens’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming “insurgents” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.

Hillary Clinton still wanted to proceed because, in part, as one of the diplomats said, she wanted “to overthrow Gaddafi on the cheap.”

This left Stevens in the position of having to clean up the scandalous enterprise when it became clear that the “insurgents” actually were al-Qaeda – indeed, in the view of one of the diplomats, the same group that attacked the consulate and ended up killing Stevens.

The former diplomat who spoke with PJ Media regarded the whole enterprise as totally amateurish and likened it to the Mike Nichols film Charlie Wilson’s War about a clueless congressman who supplies Stingers to the Afghan guerrillas. “It’s as if Hillary and the others just watched that movie and said ‘Hey, let’s do that!’” the diplomat said.

He added that he and his colleagues think the leaking of General David Petraeus’ affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell was timed to silence the former CIA chief on these matters.

Regarding General Ham, military contacts of the diplomats tell them that AFRICOM had Special Ops “assets in place that could have come to the aid of the Benghazi consulate immediately (not in six hours).”

Ham was told by the White House not to send the aid to the trapped men, but Ham decided to disobey and did so anyway, whereupon the White House “called his deputy and had the deputy threaten to relieve Ham of his command.”

The White House motivation in all this is as yet unclear, but it is known that Ham retired quietly in April 2013 as head of AFRICOM.

PJ Media recognizes this is largely hearsay, but the two diplomats sounded quite credible. One of them was in a position of responsibility in a dangerous area of Iraq in 2004.

We will report more as we learn it.

If this is true, and it probably is, the extreme lengths of the coverup make sense.

INC on May 21, 2013 at 9:27 PM

INC on May 21, 2013 at 9:27 PM

There was a thread earlier in the morning on this, but never hurts to repeat that info.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/21/new-whistleblowers-coming-forward-on-benghazi/

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 9:35 PM

can_con on May 21, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Thanks. I’ve been out of town, and missed it.

INC on May 21, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Here comes the test of Pravda, Izvestia and Tass. If they really care about the Constitution, their first amendment rights, and the country, they’ll be seeking the truth. If they’re in the pocket of Obama, they’ll just attack Republicans. We’ll know soon.

bflat879 on May 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Here comes the test of Pravda, Izvestia and Tass. If they really care about the Constitution, their first amendment rights, and the country, they’ll be seeking the truth. If they’re in the pocket of Obama, they’ll just attack Republicans. We’ll know soon.

bflat879 on May 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Noon tamale EST, we shall see. Hope I am wrong about the ending.

arnold ziffel on May 21, 2013 at 9:43 PM

This also may be old news:

IRS’s Lerner Had History of Harassment, Inappropriate Religious Inquiries at FEC

…prior to joining the IRS, Lerner’s tenure as head of the Enforcement Office at the Federal Election Commission (FEC) was marked by what appears to be politically motivated harassment of conservative groups.

Lerner was appointed head of the FEC’s enforcement division in 1986 and stayed in that position until 2001. In the late 1990s, the FEC launched an onerous investigation of the Christian Coalition, ultimately costing the organization hundreds of thousands of dollars and countless hours in lost work. The investigation was notable because the FEC alleged that the Christian Coalition was coordinating issue advocacy expenditures with a number of candidates for office. Aside from lacking proof this was happening, it was an open question whether the FEC had the authority to bring these charges.

James Bopp Jr., who was lead counsel for the Christian Coalition at the time, tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD the Christian Coalition investigation was egregious and uncalled for. “We felt we were being singled out, because when you handle a case with 81 depositions you have a pretty good argument you’re getting special treatment. Eighty-one depositions! Eighty-one! From Ralph Reed’s former part-time secretary to George H.W. Bush. It was mind blowing,” he said….

One of the most shocking things about the current IRS scandal is the revelation that the agency asked one religious pro-life group to detail the content of their prayers and asked clearly inappropriate questions about private religious activity. But under Lerner’s watch, inappropriate religious inquiries were a hallmark of the FEC’s interrogation of the Christian Coalition.

The Christian Coalition was ultimately absolved of any FEC wrongdoing in 1999, and Lerner was promoted to acting General Counsel at the FEC in 2001 before eventually moving on to the IRS. Bopp, who’s all too familiar with the aggressive and inappropriate tenor she set leading the FEC’s Enforcement Division, says he became concerned about what would happen as soon as Lerner joined the IRS. “When she left the FEC, I thought, ‘Wow, this means the not for profit division is gearing up politically,’” he said. “It didn’t bode well, because of the way [the FEC] approached cases.”

INC on May 21, 2013 at 9:59 PM

IRS official Lois Lerner to plead the Fifth at congressional hearing tomorrow

So IRS doesn’t have to answer questions if they don’t want to.

But if they ask you a questions about check Number 302 written 10 years ago you got to cough up an answer, dredge up the records, search your files, revisit you tax returns, call the bank, yada yafa yada.

Then you don’t get an answer for 60 days while it goes into a Kafkaesque bureaucratic nightmare.

Then they torture you with another question and you have 11 days to respond in writing by certified mail yada yada yad.

Then you don’t hear from them for 90 days more and they ask you about check number 421 and bank statements from ancient history and they want it pronto.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Negative Inference, anyone?

Saltyron on May 21, 2013 at 10:07 PM

“Miss Lerner, are you a scorned woman?”

viking01 on May 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM

“Mizzzzz Lerner, Why can’t you simply pretend you “can’t recall” like Hitlery does whenever she is under oath?”

viking01 on May 21, 2013 at 10:28 PM

The irony of Lerner leaning on her constitutional right to plead the Fifth so as to not answer questions about her use of her office to pursue a vendetta against conservative groups is so choice…..

itsspideyman on May 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM

I am PRAYING for a Sarah Palin Facebook posting to make the HA pages….of the deliciously sweet bitter tears of Bluegill and others….

JFKY on May 21, 2013 at 8:41 PM

mmmmmmmmm, bluegill – where is my honeybun? (pssst, I’ll let you in a secret: word is, she’s been seen dating Manti Te’o…)

Anti-Control on May 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

This is fun and all, but watch what the other hand is doing too.

Immigration reform needs to be killed. Dead. And any GOPe (we’re lookin’ at you, Marco) involved in that turd needs the white hot glare of the spotlight squarely on them.

ObamaCare needs to be defunded. Starved. Don’t assume it will “collapse under its own weight”.

Once again, Liberalism crashes & burns, because these pigs in their bloodlust for power & control overplayed their hand (again), and to borrow from O’Butthead, there never is any ‘there’ there.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 21, 2013 at 11:11 PM

I don’t understand what everyone is expecting to come of this. obama isn’t going anywhere. He won’t be impeached. No one will march him in front of the public and castigate him, then throw him out of office so he can bike home in his mom pants.

If Lerner is replaced, there will be another faceless sycophant ready to take her place.

The media that everyone was expecting to have this great awakening after the AP story hit, has been defending what the DOJ did against Rosen and even what they did to the AP.

The Limbaugh Theorem in full effect.

The left marches on…

JAGonzo on May 21, 2013 at 11:32 PM

William Welch II, Obama Administration’s Point Man to Stop Leaks, Helped Dems Win Crucial Senate Seat By Bungling Ted Stevens Prosecution

washingtonian.com/blogs/capitalcomment/power-players/william-welch-obama-administrations-point-man-to-stop-leaks.php

Lois Lerner shares defence lawyer with William Welch II
zuckerman.com/william_taylor <— clients list
politico.com/story/2013/05/lois-lerner-could-plead-the-fifth-rep-cummings-says-91686.html

ninjapirate on May 21, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Any federal employee that invokes the 5th Amendment, should be fired.

Remember the Valerie Plame/Joseph Wilson kerfuffle. President Bush told everyone that if they invoked the 5th, they had to do it as a former employee.

Why does she have to take the 5th? Were some of her actions illegal?

Then resign and lawyer up.

patch on May 21, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Any federal employee that invokes the 5th Amendment, should be fired.

Remember the Valerie Plame/Joseph Wilson kerfuffle. President Bush told everyone that if they invoked the 5th, they had to do it as a former employee.

Why does she have to take the 5th? Were some of her actions illegal?

Then resign and lawyer up.

patch on May 21, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Good recall, that’s something Jay the Carney barker should be asked about.

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2013 at 12:26 AM

So why isn’t the stupid party seriously proposing a flat tax and dismantling the IRS? NOW is the time.

Decoski on May 22, 2013 at 12:42 AM

The New York Times is all over this:

On Page A18!
with the headline:
I.R.S. Official Will Decline to Testify to House Panel.

Decline to testify!?!?!?!

topdog on May 22, 2013 at 1:02 AM

Give her immunity and she’ll spill her guts.

Akzed on May 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM

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That would be literal suicide, if she did that.

A very professional “hit” would be in the works for her, if she talked.
She’ll do a “Susan McDougal”, first.

listens2glenn on May 22, 2013 at 1:02 AM

The irony of Lerner leaning on her constitutional right to plead the Fifth so as to not answer questions about her use of her office to pursue a vendetta against (and violate the civil rights of) conservative groups is so choice…..

itsspideyman on May 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM

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That’s gotta be the thread winner.

listens2glenn on May 22, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Inc:
That is stunning, and rings true. It answers so many questions about Obama and Clinton’s inexplicable responses, the way they parsed words from the get-go, and their weird obsession with deflecting attention onto the ridiculous video.

LASue on May 22, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Start with the questions she used on her political enemies and the ‘folks’ (the elitist term for middle-American retards) who she thought were too simple for beliefs.

pat on May 22, 2013 at 2:08 AM

I guess even the IRS thinks the Constitution can come in handy sometimes.

Axion on May 22, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Let her take that stand in front of Congress and answer every, single question with the Fifth for hours.

Then get every single e-mail, document, memo and any other record you can lay your hands on and start asking those just below her what she has done and after that those just above her.

Every time you get someone taking the Fifth you repeat that process and you will find that the trail of such individuals goes up, not down. She understands the government enough to get things in writing so as not to be broiled alone. And when enough of the circumstantial evidence paints into only one set of activities and actions by her, then she will realize the jig is up and sing like a canary. Her only worry is tall buildings that she is in because she probably doesn’t fly like one…

ajacksonian on May 22, 2013 at 7:22 AM

After the congresscritters yell at her for a while, who will ask “OK. What kind of immunity deal do you need in order to talk? Witness protection and a home on the beach?”

KCsecurity1976 on May 22, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Since Lerner won’t answer questions, Taylor asked that she be excused from appearing, saying that would “have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her.”

She should be ‘embarrassed’ and ‘burdened’ and prosecuted and tarred and feathered.

TerryW on May 22, 2013 at 8:30 AM

So let me get this straight….the IRS, that just trampled the shi’ite out of the Constitutional rights of the American people who they have targeted, harrassed, and trampled on through their abuse of power, is going to plead THEIR Constitutional Right (5th) as a defense?!

That’s just messed up…

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Taking the fifth should lead somewhere ? Department of Justice official Patrick Cunningham used the fifth on Fast and Furious. Look where that ended up. After several disappointments of getting my hopes up, I’ll get excited when real action takes place.

DOJ official plans to plead the Fifth, refuse to testify on Fast and Furious

maddmatt on May 22, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Just so we’re clear: Sandy Hook means we don’t have Second Amendment rights. The HHS mandate means we don’t have First Amendment rights. Progressives constantly tell us the Constitution is outdated and should be repealed.

Until one of Obama’s administration needs to avoid self incrimination.

Then the Bill of Rights isn’t so outdated.

Gotta love legal positivism. :mad:

englishqueen01 on May 22, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Thank you little bright ray of sunshine…we’ll all just toddle off and be grumpy…

Again glad you weren’t around in 1777, or 1863 or 1942…Man what an advisor you would have made to MLK, “No one’s gonna care what happens on that March to Selma.” “No one’s gonna care about the Bus Boycott.”

Have you got your little bunker all prepared for the INEVITABLE collapse of the Republic?

JFKY on May 21, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Oh? So you equate this meaningless circle jerk that conservatives are doing on political blogs to the American revolutionaries? Yeah, you are just like them, brave patriot. They fought with bullets, your battles consist of snark contests in GOP echo chambers. I am moved by your courageousness.

Have you got your oil warmed up for the INEVITABLE Republican fluffing you will be doing in 2014 when you start screeching that we simply must vote for the GOP because it was wat my daddy done did and it is simply too big to fail?

The left will sodomize you once again over this like they always do because when it comes down to it, today’s conservatives have no spine to do what is needed. The 47% of “America” hate you, and everything their leaders do is justified in their eyes.

ClassicCon on May 22, 2013 at 9:05 AM

With the time frame of events occuring as of late, DHS get’n all si vis pacem para bellem n’all, not really feeling comfortable with poking the I.R.SS w/ such a sharp stick. Almost get the feel’n they saw this com’n. Keep having Martin (as Colonel Cathcart) Balsam’s raspy voice in the back of my mind saying, “All part of the plan!”
As for any other voices back there, I’m gonna plead the 5th.

onomo on May 22, 2013 at 9:32 AM

As soon as she stepped out of the courtroom a bag should have been placed over her head, only to be taken off adter she was onboard the military C-130 that was rumbling down the runway. At that point she should be told that since the IRS completely ignored the law & people’s Constitutinal rights hers were at this point being ignored. She should be told that she would be joining others from the IRS down in GITMO, as her actions were now categorized as ‘terrorism’ since the IRS terrorized & attacked American citizens. She should be told that she would be ‘questioned’ further at GITMO, that it would be less painful if she cooperated, & that if she did so she might actually see her family again.

By the time they landed at the next closes airport she would have wet herself & told everything she knows, not necessarily in that order. If she was involved in any criminal activity, fines/jail time could be given at that point. Finally, no matter what, she, Miller, & anyone else involved should be made to sign a document stating they would NEVER work in any form of government office/position EVER again! Then boot her @$$ off the plane & send her a bill for the cost of the gas for the C-130 for the flight.

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 11:26 AM

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