White House knew of IRS scandal “weeks ago”

posted at 9:21 am on May 20, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

We first heard  last week that the chief White House counsel knew for weeks about the IRS practice of targeting conservatives, when Lanny Davis called for the resignation of Kathryn Ruemmler – if she didn’t notify Barack Obama of it when she first learned it.  At the time, Davis wrote that “several reporters” had tipped him off to Ruemmler’s knowledge of the practice.  Now the Wall Street Journal and NBC’s Chuck Todd both report that the top lawyer in the White House did indeed know about the scandal for weeks before it broke publicly:

The White House’s chief lawyer learned weeks ago that an audit of the Internal Revenue Service likely would show that agency employees inappropriately targeted conservative groups, a senior White House official said Sunday.

That disclosure has prompted a debate over whether the president should have been notified at that time.

In the week of April 22, the Office of the White House Counsel and its head, Kathryn Ruemmler, were told by Treasury Department attorneys that an inspector general’s report was nearing completion, the White House official said. In that conversation, Ms. Ruemmler learned that “a small number of line IRS employees had improperly scrutinized certain…organizations by using words like ‘tea party’ and ‘patriot,’ ” the official said.

President Barack Obama said last week he learned about the controversy at the same time as the public, on May 10, when an IRS official revealed it to a conference of lawyers. The president’s statement drew criticism, focusing attention on his management style and whether he has kept himself sufficiently informed about the agencies under his authority.

Todd updates NBC viewers, and hints at the real question:

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The real question is similar to that facing Douglas Shulman and Steve Miller at the IRS.  If the chief counsel there knew about the targeting in August 2011, would he have left the top executive in the organization in the dark?  Would the top lawyer neglect to tell the executive for months about wrongdoing in the agency, especially when the top executives prepared for testimony to Congress and the topic was likely to arise?  That seems very, very doubtful, and if the counsel testifies that Shulman and Miller had been informed of it, both could end up facing criminal charges and years in prison.

The stakes are less high for Obama, but the same question applies.  How could the top White House lawyer sit on the knowledge that the IRS had targeted the President’s political opponents without informing the President?  Answer: Either Ruemmler was incredibly incompetent or the White House is lying about when Obama knew of the scandal. We got a big hint in last week’s press conference that it’s the latter, when Obama changed the context of a question about his awareness of the scandal to his awareness of the IG report, which is pointedly not the same thing.

Stay tuned.

Addendum: Maybe Ruemmler didn’t bother to let Obama know because she figured he already knew.  Jeffrey Lord at American Spectator finds a little circumstantial evidence that might explain the timing of the IRS efforts to target the Tea Party:

According to the White House Visitors Log, provided here in searchable form by U.S. News and World Report, the president of the anti-Tea Party National Treasury Employees Union, Colleen Kelley, visited the White House at 12:30pm that Wednesday noon time of March 31st.

The White House lists the IRS union leader’s visit this way:

Kelley, Colleen Potus 03/31/2010 12:30

In White House language, “POTUS” stands for “President of the United States.”

The very next day after her White House meeting with the President, according to the Treasury Department’s Inspector General’s Report, IRS employees — the same employees who belong to the NTEU — set to work in earnest targeting the Tea Party and conservative groups around America. The IG report wrote it up this way:

April 1-2, 2010: The new Acting Manager, Technical Unit, suggested the need for a Sensitive Case Report on the Tea Party cases. The Determinations Unit Program Manager Agreed.

In short: the very day after the president of the quite publicly anti-Tea Party labor union — the union for IRS employees — met with President Obama, the manager of the IRS “Determinations Unit Program agreed” to open a “Sensitive Case report on the Tea party cases.” As stated by the IG report.

The NTEU is the 150,000 member union that represents IRS employees along with 30 other separate government agencies. Kelley herself is a 14-year IRS veteran agent. The union’s PAC endorsed President Obama in both 2008 and 2012, and gave hundreds of thousands of dollars in the 2010 and 2012 election cycles to anti-Tea Party candidates.

Putting IRS employees in the position of actively financing anti-Tea Party candidates themselves, while in their official positions in the IRS blocking, auditing, or intimidating Tea Party and conservative groups around the country.

At the least, it seems awfully coincidental.

Update: Hot Air reader and Twitter follower MStevensG8r suggests this clip each time the White House and/or Obama himself claims to have just found out about something the administration did from the newspapers:

This probably goes with Bob Schieffer’s “dumb and dumber” blast at the administration better, but I’d rather feature it here first.

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Why does the IRS need a union? Do they have horrible working conditions?

monalisa on May 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM

To balance the thuggish power of “Big Taxpayer”..you Rethuglican.
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Mimzey on May 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Why does the IRS need a union? Do they have horrible working conditions?

monalisa on May 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM

To balance the thuggish power of “Big Taxpayer”..you Rethuglican.
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Mimzey on May 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM

To hide the real management structure?

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Is it too far a stretch to wonder – If the IRS union employees treat Tea Party groups unfairly, maybe they apply the same discrimination to me as an individual when looking at my tax return? – I donate to those groups as well as other conservative causes. If you are looking to cut funding, why not start at the source? How far could it go? This is the reason we need to get to a flat tax.

Bourgeoisie on May 20, 2013 at 11:33 AM

American Spectator article finally downloaded okay, but not in usual format.

Meanwhile, Newsbusters has a pretty thorough account of it.

petefrt on May 20, 2013 at 11:37 AM

To hide the real management structure?

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Mmmmm…………..Racist!
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Mimzey on May 20, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Is it too far a stretch to wonder – If the IRS union employees treat Tea Party groups unfairly, maybe they apply the same discrimination to me as an individual when looking at my tax return? – I donate to those groups as well as other conservative causes. If you are looking to cut funding, why not start at the source? How far could it go? This is the reason we need to get to a flat tax.

Bourgeoisie on May 20, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Iceberg.

As this unwinds I expect that we will not only find that the IRS illegally targeted conservative groups, but that they also illegally favored liberal groups.

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Knew or should have known …

crosspatch on May 20, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Knew or should have known …

Pfft, the WH created the conditions for the scandal.

The real scandal to the WH is the publicizing of the IRS getting caught.

hawkeye54 on May 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I expect that we will not only find that the IRS illegally targeted conservative groups, but that they also illegally favored liberal groups.

Nothing favorable to liberal groups should EVER be considered illegal….and in leftist minds rarely is.

hawkeye54 on May 20, 2013 at 12:01 PM

so mdnc hacks are trashing gop for fear mongering without any evidence but they have no problem doing the exact same thing to the gop…baseless accusations that the gop must prove wrong…

puhleeze

cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 12:03 PM

They knew years ago when they started it.

VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 12:06 PM

They knew years ago when they started it.

They knew about the Fast and Furious Gun Running years ago too when they started that.

VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 12:07 PM

IRS info from the Koch brothers was used to attack them back in 2010, for which the brothers’ lawyer was sent to Washington to address the issue. The IRS scandal was rought up then.

During the ’12 Presidential election Obama’s campaign co-chair used IRS info on Romney given to him to publicly attack him. HARRY REID even used the data to declare in a press conference that Romney hadn’t paid taxes in years & should release his tax returns so everyone could see (what he was already looking at – IRS data).

The LIES and evidence to despute them is there for the using…all that is required is someone who isn’t interested in protecting Obama to look & use it.

easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Yes, I’m telling you that. The first– that the White House was made aware of it was from the Treasury Department a few weeks ago, not– not the details of what happened, not the results of the investigation, but that an independent investigation was about to conclude, and here’s how we handle this–

I’m sorry having trouble with this.

unseen on May 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

American Spectator’s site is down?

hawksruleva on May 20, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Looks that way.

petefrt on May 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM

I’ve been getting “Network Errors” all morning trying to read the article. I hope that just means that huge numbers of people are busy reading it.

Aitch748 on May 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Knew or should have known …

crosspatch on May 20, 2013 at 11:48 AM

barky and withholder don’t know anything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1iHxjdHI1M

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Chief IRS counsel bailed Jeremiah Wright’s church out of IRS probe in 2008…

UH-OH!

easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Yes, I’m telling you that. The first– that the White House was made aware of it was from the Treasury Department a few weeks ago, not– not the details of what happened, not the results of the investigation, but that an independent investigation was about to conclude, and here’s how we handle this–

so basically what the WH is trying to say is they were informed of a high level investigation ongoing at the IRS that was about to conclude but they never bothered to find out not only the results about the investigation but what the investigation was ABOUT.

so I guess the conversation went like this:

IG: “Hey President Obama your IRS admin is being investigated by the IG”

WH: ” that’s nice”

………..

Any person woould at least ask what they were investigating at the bare min.

unseen on May 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM

I’ve been getting “Network Errors” all morning trying to read the article. I hope that just means that huge numbers of people are busy reading it.

Aitch748 on May 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

The IRS alone has over 90,000 employees.

The federal Obamacare mobile colonoscopy unit has just pulled up at Jeffrey Lord’s home.

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Remember hearing about how the IRS also targeted Jewish groups that support Israel as well?

Tie that in with the AP Wire-tap scandal…the call for investigating leaks began when it was suggested that the leakes had to have come from withint the White House itself….

Add these two together & do you have another case of ‘incompetence’? Dunno about that, but you do have another WH SCANDAL:

American officials apologized to their Israeli counterparts for confirming that Israel was behind the airstrikes on the Damascus airport earlier this month, Israel Radio reported on Sunday.

The confirmation reportedly came from the lower ranks at the Pentagon, and the reasons for the leak are being investigated.

Another Obama administration security leak…

easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

American Spectator’s site is down?

hawksruleva on May 20, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Looks that way.

petefrt on May 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM
I’ve been getting “Network Errors” all morning trying to read the article. I hope that just means that huge numbers of people are busy reading it.

Aitch748 on May 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

it’s also linked at Drudge. So I expect it to have a massive hit on its servers.

unseen on May 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Another Obama administration security leak…

easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

doubtful I would say Obama wanted this information out there. not a leak but an intention release of classified information IMO

unseen on May 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM

That’s why there are so many people here who are flustered. Everything comes from the top. We don’t have any authority to make those decisions without someone signing off on them. There has to be a directive.”

Aw, bless him. He’s too young and probably too ill-educated to know about Nuremberg.

Maybe he and his comrades, er, colleagues will learn some very intense lessons about becoming politically inconvenient even when you believe you’ve done nothing wrong.

jangle12 on May 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM


Simply amazing how Obama never knows about anything except who he has in his NCAA bracket. Seriously, does he think anyone other than his minions believe that B—S—

HAGGS99 on May 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Let me be clear. At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing or to whom they were doing it.

VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM

President Barack Obama said last week he learned about the controversy at the same time as the public, on May 10, when an IRS official revealed it to a conference of lawyers.

Everyone should carefully take note of Obama’s sneaky, misleading statement in that regard.

He said he “only became aware of THE CONTROVERSY” “in the IG Report” when he heard about it (you know, just like The Folks did) via media.

He was speaking about THE IG REPORT, not about the targeting-crime/s.

Meaning, he avoided the truth by making a statement other than what he was questioned about (he was asked about the truth, the IRS-targeting-crime/s), so he avoided the questioned issue and the truth by addressing something else (the IG Report contents).

Sneaky.

Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Are we ready for President Biden? I pray someone can prove he knew about it, because that thought scares me.

Philly on May 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Either Ruemmler was incredibly incompetent or the White House is lying about when Obama knew of the scandal.

Appears that Obama’s figured it’s advantageous for “the folks” to accept him as uninformed and dumb rather than him risking admitting he’s engaged in crime.

Of course Obama “knew.” Of course he did. The Admin wants to preserve Obama’s cult popularity and it looks like that now hinges on him being perpetually ‘cool’ by being stupid and, you know, uhh, hangin’ out with Tiger and JayZ and Beyonce and, uhh, you know, bein’ cool and all that.

Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Remember hearing about how the IRS also targeted Jewish groups that support Israel as well?

Tie that in with the AP Wire-tap scandal…the call for investigating leaks began when it was suggested that the leakes had to have come from withint the White House itself….

Add these two together & do you have another case of ‘incompetence’? Dunno about that, but you do have another WH SCANDAL:

American officials apologized to their Israeli counterparts for confirming that Israel was behind the airstrikes on the Damascus airport earlier this month, Israel Radio reported on Sunday.

The confirmation reportedly came from the lower ranks at the Pentagon, and the reasons for the leak are being investigated.

Another Obama administration security leak…

easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Amazing…

I am reading the writing on the wall, and it seems to be spelling out, “A-R-M-A-G-E-D-D-O-N”

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

“…That’s why there are so many people here who are flustered. Everything comes from the top. We don’t have any authority to make those decisions without someone signing off on them. There has to be a directive.”

Whether Obama says he didn’t know or not, the reality is, as President, HE IS RESPONSIBLE for the behavior, actions of his Cabinet. That’s the job.

Obama has all but admitted that he’s incompetent to that job as President. His “aww, I didn’t know” bit is him admitting he’s not “doing the President” up to the standards defined by his predecessors AND by the job description itself.

It’s his JOB to know these things. If he “didn’t know,” he is still responsible. That’s the job.

Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Amerika

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Nancy Pelosi suggested that the solution to the IRS scandal is to crack down even harder on the very Conservative groups that were targeted by the URS to begin with…and the ‘circle-the-wagons’ message is starting to bve spun by more and more of the ‘usual’ Obama butt-protecting/kissing Liberal media!

Obama & the Liberals are trying to undermine, overturn, & as we have seen – PUNISH – the 501(c)(4)s that have been approved/upheld by the Supreme Court!

MoveOn.org, BTW, is a 501(c)(4)…but of course IT didn’t get targeted…

easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM

I could very easily see Barry hearing the IRS union head out, and giving a non-verbal agreement. [...]

He despised the Tea Party movement by that point and has always followed the union’s leads.

budfox on May 20, 2013 at 9:43 AM

“Never write if you can speak; never speak if you can nod; never nod if you can wink.”

Makes you wonder if the suggestion came from the union to Barky, or the other way around? Either way, yet another indication of how terrible an idea having civil-service employees unionized is.

That these “folks” are the enforcement arm of Obamacare is chilling.

bofh on May 20, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Sorry for being slow to see this..

The union was his tool .. not some LT. commanding from on high, but union stewards spreading the word.. “screw the enemies of our state”… and they happily complied, but even this can be tracked back if somebody talks.. and a subpena could scare some into growing a conscience. Perjury charges help to…

mark81150 on May 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM

FLASHBACK: IRS Union Employees Hold Rally With Democrats – Bash Republicans

In 2011 over 500 federal employees of the National Treasury Employees Union held a rally with Democrats to bash Republicans and Bush.

More than 500 federal employees piled into the Capitol Visitor Center after rally organizers scrapped the original setting. The passionate audience welcomed Democratic lawmakers and NTEU President Colleen Kelley as they listed the grievances of the federal workforce and encouraged the union to spread the message.

In particular, Kelley expressed disappointment over the two-year pay freeze on federal employees imposed by President Barack Obama, which Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., called “wrong.”
“You shouldn’t have had those freezes,” he said. “You didn’t cause this deficit…Don’t pick on the federal workforce; that’s wrong.”

A chorus of boos echoed through the packed auditorium when former President George W. Bush and the Republican Party were fingered as the culprits at blame for the ailing economy. Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-D.C., said Republicans favored the wealthy and insisted on using the middle class workers as a “nice piggy bank,” which would “make up for their Bush tax cuts, their unpaid-for wars and their corporate tax breaks.”

The union was particularly opposed to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee approval in early February of a bill that would increase pension contributions for federal workers and cut pay. Although the bill has not been passed by the House, it calls for federal workers to pay an additional 1.5 percent toward their retirement.

And, after the election last year the IRS union was eager to congratulate President Obama on his big win.

From the NTEU website:

The leader of the National Treasury Employees Union (NTEU) today applauded the re-election of President Barack Obama.

“NTEU supported the re-election of President Obama as being in the best interests of our country and of the dedicated men and women of the federal workforce,” said NTEU President Colleen M. Kelley. “NTEU is also pleased that so many of our candidates for Senate seats and our staunchest supporters in the House won their races.”

NTEU’s efforts on behalf of President Obama and key candidates spanned the country. “Our 2012 election plan has been in place since the beginning of the year,” said President Kelley. “Many chapters and members were actively involved educating and organizing various types of activities around the country including candidate nights and volunteering for campaigns.”

NTEU’s efforts focused on battleground states where races for the presidency, Senate and House seats were competitive and where the union has substantial numbers of NTEU members including Virginia, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan and Indiana.

In the days before the election, NTEU members volunteered for phone-banking and canvassing, with a particular focus on contacting other NTEU members and urging them to vote for candidates who support federal employees and federal employee issues.

“Federal employees heard our message loud and clear that everything about the lives of the federal workforce is determined by those elected to office,” said Kelley.

Unlike his opponent in the presidential election, Kelley said, the president is keenly aware of the risks to the effective delivery of vital government services posed by proposals to sharply reduce the federal workforce and cut the budgets of federal agencies.

“In a very real sense, these are make-or-break issues for our country,” Kelley said. “Federal agencies simply must have the resources and personnel they need to carry out their missions,” she added, noting the effective work of the Federal Emergency Management Agency in the wake of the storm that battered the east coast in late October.

With Congress reconvening next week, the NTEU leader emphasized that the union will now focus its immediate attention on the interests of federal employees as the lame-duck session of Congress prepares to address key financial issues, including avoiding sequestration.

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

As this unwinds I expect that we will not only find that the IRS illegally targeted conservative groups, but that they also illegally favored liberal groups.

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Yeah, I haven’t heard of any IRS scrutiny of the TIDES Foundation or Brookings.

Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

NTEU

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

News I read last week was that something like ninety-percent or MORE of those union members (IRS, Treasury federal employees) voted for Obama, contributed to his campaigns.

Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Here’s the AmSpec article on Newsbusters:

AmSpec Scoop: Obama ‘Met With Anti-Tea Party IRS Union Chief the Day Before Agency Targeted Tea Party’

By Tom Blumer | May 20, 2013 | 11:20

Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Obama and the IRS: The Smoking Gun? President met with anti-Tea Party IRS union chief the day before agency targeted Tea Party.

… According to the White House Visitors Log … the president of the anti-Tea Party National Treasury Employees Union, Colleen Kelley, visited the White House at 12:30pm that Wednesday noon time of March 31st.

Remember all the hoopla from Obama Admin about sharing the WH visitors log with others?

And these meetings now exposed are but the only meetings we now know about – we’ll never know how many aren’t logged, took place across the street, so to speak, or in other places than the WH. I imagine that is also incentive for Obama Admin to be claiming Obama’s location during Benghazi isn’t important, questions about it are “irrelevant.”

Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

We KNOW the IRS was targetiong Conservatives as far back as 2010.

We KNOW the IRS was providing personal info to the WH for personal attacks – on both the Koch brothers in 2010 & on Romney in 2012.

We KNOW Obama was well aware of these 2 – his own campaign co-chair was the one that used Romney’s personal data to attack him during the Presidential campaign.

We KNOW Obama vowed he had not heard about the IRS scandal until he saw it on the news on 10 May…but we KNOW the IG Inspector informed the WH about the investigation / issue. (OBAMA LIED)

We KNOW the IRS targeted the TEA Party & Conservative Groups – even Jewish groups.

We KNOW the IRS DECEIVED the Congressional Oversight Committee by withholding evidence/news that this was going on.

We KNOW Schulman, the head of the IRS before Miller, perpetrated the Felony crime of PERJURY before this Committee by telling Congress this definitely was NOT happening – the Committee played the video tape during the hearing last week of Schulman doing it! (WHY is Schulman NOT in handcuffs right now?)

We KNOW – we watched – Miller continue to lie & Deceive Congress last week during the Hearing.

We KNOW the IRS & administration LIED by declaring a few isolated rogue low-level agents were responsible…only to find it was in agencies spread across the country, to include D.C.

We KNOW Miller said he conducted an investigation yet could not answer the 1st question about WHO did the targeting. We KNOW he said he ‘fixed the problem’ back in March but it continued well into April. We KNOW he said he has not punished anyone & had no intention of doing anything further because he is leaving soon!

We know Obama signed off on gher BONUSES while this was going on, bonuses that were way above what the IRS was approved to give on its own. We all KNOW also Obama signed off on her being promoted, being placed in charge of the tax/fine enforcement portion of Obamacare.

We KNOW Obama & Holder have already declared they REFUSE to call for a Special Counsel to investigate the scandal…& no one except the Atty General can call for it, so they are in the perfect situation to make this go away.

This has ALREADY blown up in this administration’s face. There is already enough tto burn this administration to the ground & get Obama Impeached – far more than was had against Nixon. Obama has facilitated this act through his attacks & condemnation against Conservatives. Liberals DEMANDED investigations of the TEA Party. And Liberals are giving the American people the finger – literally & figuaratively – by declaring these IRS workers can NOT be fired, can NOT be arrested/jailed, & no one can make them call for an independent counsel to investigate ANYTHING!

T*Y*R*A*N*N*Y! Obama swore to fundamentally change the U.S. & he has! We are now in Obama’s personal Socialist tyrannical dictatorship where the American people are held hostage with no waty to affect justice / stop the madness!

Our only hope is that our Dongressmen grow some testicles & start taking actions…to include IMPEACJMENT proceedings!

easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM

I’m not worried about a president Biden. I’ll take a president Ham Sandwich. Get this clown out. Terminate the entire media. Get this country back!

GhoulAid on May 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

So did Darrell Issa, who himself said he was going to wait for the Inspector General’s report. Guys, there is no there there.

libfreeordie on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Reporter to Obama: “The WaPo just reported that you knew about this from day one, since you ordered it, yourself.”

Obama: “Yes, but I didn’t know that I knew about it until I read that story in the news.”

The Rogue Tomato on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

NOW BEING REPORTED:

REPORT: DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower…

Obama has been using every ounce of the federal government’s power to target and punish any American citizen or group that dares stand against him, exposes his crimes & failures, & who would dare to attempt to oppose his Socialist agenda!

This man, again, is not working FOR the Amerrican people – he is perpetrating a ‘hostile takeover’ of the nation, ignoring/abusing the Constitution & laws, & attacking the American people. He has proven that he is an ENEMY OF THE STATE!

easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 2:06 PM

The WH knew in July of 2012. Who believes this crap?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

President Barack Obama dismissed calls for the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the IRS scandal, and evaded a question asking if White House officials knew of the IRS targeting of conservative political groups.

“Can you assure the American people that nobody in the White House knew about the agency’s actions before your White House’s counsel’s office found out on April 22?” – Bloomberg’s Julianna Goldman

OBAMA: “Let me make sure I answer your specific question: I can assure you that I certainly did not know anything about the IG report before the IG report had been leaked through the press.” – Barack Obama

easyt65 on May 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

there is no there there.

libfreeordie on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Obama admin., in the best light.

Charlatanic thugs is what they really are.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

The IRS deliberately exposed it’s targeting of tea party groups in order to scare off donors to conservative groups. Now they are afraid to give lest they get audited, so the next elections will be run at even greater advantage for the Dems.

“That’s a nice life you have there, be a shame if something was to happen to it.”

Isn’t this a crime?

poplicola on May 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM

The WH knew in July of 2012. Who believes this crap?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Here:

So did Darrell Issa, who himself said he was going to wait for the Inspector General’s report. Guys, there is no there there.

libfreeordie on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

:)

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 2:14 PM

I am desperately hoping there is no there there.

libfreeordie on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Edited for accuracy.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM

there is no there there.

libfreeordie on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

You of course mean the progressive agenda.

itsspideyman on May 20, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Why do you think the TEA party went so quiet after 2014?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM

there is no there there.

libfreeordie on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Wishing it doesn’t make it so.

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Why do you think the TEA party went so quiet after 2014?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM

And why didn’t you notice when they did?
But of in hindsight now…

verbaluce on May 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

But of in hindsight now…

What kind of brain damage or mental deficit results in someone who communicates this poorly?

tom daschle concerned on May 20, 2013 at 2:48 PM

In fact, it was well over 100 weeks ago.

The Rogue Tomato on May 20, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Why do you think the TEA party went so quiet after 2014?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Yeah, 2014. I remember way back then.

The Rogue Tomato on May 20, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Why do you think the TEA party went so quiet after 2014?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Schadenfreudian slip?

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 2:58 PM

I am desperately hoping there is no there there.

libfreeordie on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Edited for accuracy.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM

And in its desperation the best the Marxist troll could come up with is a lame attempt to draw an equivalence between Issa and Comrade O, as if they are equals in the matter.

Problem is, Comrade O is the head of the IRS. The IRS reports to him. He has total authority over the IRS. The IRS must disclose anything and everything it does or does not do to Comrade O on his demand. Comrade O can issue orders to the IRS that they must follow.

Issa, OTOH, has no authority whatsoever over the IRS. He couldn’t tell the lowliest of the lowest cubicle dwellers at the IRS what to do and expect them to do it. He can’t even ask them questions and expect an answer without a subpoena.

Comrade O denies any knowledge of what the IRS was doing for the past 27 months. He claims his first hint of any problems came when CNN reported on it a few days ago.

Issa is a legislator who only starts asking questions about what the IRS is doing when there is some suspicion they are doing something they should not be doing.

But other than that, Comrade O and Issa are exactly the same.

farsighted on May 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM

What kind of brain damage or mental deficit results in someone who communicates this poorly?

tom daschle concerned on May 20, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Perpetual cognitive dissonance and reality denial.

farsighted on May 20, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Last week the IG testified to Congress that the report touted by the White House as exonerating Obama and his WH minions was the equivalent of an audit not an investigation.

The point was driven home when the IG agreed that no effort was made to investigate the source of the orders – such as reviewing emails and other communications. He acknowledged with a smile and wink that an investigation is underway and we haven’t heard the last form the IG’s office on the topic.

in_awe on May 20, 2013 at 3:52 PM

So did Darrell Issa, who himself said he was going to wait for the Inspector General’s report. Guys, there is no there there.

libfreeordie on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Darrell Issa has no administrative role over the IRS – Obama however DOES. Big difference.

Sharr on May 20, 2013 at 4:35 PM

CIA source says Fox News scandal the “4th Shoe”; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on “something” that has top aides terrified.—

joseph curl (@josephcurl) May 20, 2013

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Weeks, really? They’re using that lame term? It’s more like weeks that turned into years cuz since they ordered the whole thing, the WretchedHive had to know about it from the get-go.

stukinIL4now on May 20, 2013 at 7:29 PM

I can believe this president didn’t know: don’t forget this president has a long history of not being responsible for anything. As a state senator he voted present over 150 times. He may have given standing orders that he was not to be informed about anything controversial as well as orders to be very agressive at contorversial campaigning.

burt on May 20, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Even when he does know (no, really!), nothing happens:

OJ Simpson will find the real killer before Obama finds out anything about Benghazi, the IRS, the AP phone taps. There has been plenty of time for this poseur to take action on these things that made him so “angry”.

Obviously the president’s anger means nothing to him or any of his reports, because there is no result or remedy.

virgo on May 20, 2013 at 9:13 PM

I can believe this president didn’t know: don’t forget this president has a long history of not being responsible for anything. As a state senator he voted present over 150 times. He may have given standing orders that he was not to be informed about anything controversial as well as orders to be very agressive at contorversial campaigning.

burt on May 20, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Not exactly. As far as anyone can prove, he doesn’t know. Valerie Jarrett is a wall between him and the rest of the world. EVERYTHING goes through her. They all live together, eat all meals together, vacation together, etc, so there’s no phone, no emails and no memo tracks. She likely tells him everything but with no trail.

It’s modeled after the way the Mafia (or the Chicago Outfit) operates to keep the godfather insulated. That’s why RICO was the only way to bring them down.

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 10:22 PM

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