“Experienced Democrats” whispering that it might be time for Holder to go

posted at 8:41 pm on May 20, 2013 by Allahpundit

This was written, I believe, before the news broke this morning about the DOJ quasi-indicting James Rosen for the crime of practicing journalism. So if Dems in the know were whispering before, they’re downright murmuring now.

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

Nevertheless, the controversies are undermining the president; his slow, reactive, alternately passive and cavalier responses are playing into critics’ hands. Experienced Democrats, outside the White House, want Obama to be more proactive, assertive and forthright to salvage his second term.

Among the bolder actions they want him to consider:…

– Accept Holder’s resignation. A favorite target of Republicans, the attorney general now has few fans among prominent Democrats. Given his record, his departure would be important substantively as well as symbolically.

– Abandon widely discussed consideration of making United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice the head of the National Security Council later this year. She isn’t responsible for Benghazi and has been unfairly pilloried by critics such as Graham. Still, in her five network television appearances immediately after the tragedy, she displayed poor judgment. While head of the NSC isn’t a post requiring Senate confirmation, appointing Rice would reignite the firestorm in this largely faux scandal.

Another suggestion is to appoint a special prosecutor for the IRS scandal, an idea in which National Journal’s Ron Fournier concurs. As for Holder, you already know the problems with replacing him — arguably it fuels the fire of scandalmania rather than dousing the flames, and it gives Obama a new problem in trying to find a replacement who’s acceptable to both sides. A third, not-so-minor problem is that there’s no evidence at all that subpoenaing the AP’s phone records and snooping on Rosen were practices that Obama disapproves of. He’s been quick to denounce the IRS, but unless I’ve missed it, he’s said not a word second-guessing the DOJ. Why would he? Obama’s greed for secrecy and contempt for leaks is well known. It’s not easy to fire a guy when he’s doing exactly what you want.

And here’s a fourth possible problem. After all the criticism of Holder from Republicans, can O get away with canning him or will his base scream? A thought from Politico:

Many Holder supporters view him as a proxy of sorts for the president, absorbing political blows that Republicans would like to administer directly to Obama but can’t without violating certain principles of decorum.

“Fast and Furious did not involve the president, so who do you focus on? The attorney general,” D.C. Delegate to Congress Eleanor Holmes Norton said. “He’s taking the flak for the president.”…

Support for Holder remains strong among many on the legal left, especially after he and his department came out hard against voter identification laws and other measures they said could disenfranchise minorities. The aggressive GOP campaign against Holder may also have rallied some partisans to his side.

All true, but on the other hand, scapegoating Holder for Obama’s anti-leak practices might help liberal O-bots resolve the cognitive dissonance between their idealized view of the Unicorn Prince as a champion of good government and the unpleasant daily reality. Blame Holder, boot him out, and then they can gaze once again at O as the fantasy president they wished he was. There’s something too to Sandy Levin’s idea that the longer this drags on, the greater the potential it has to consume the next few months of O’s term, potentially upending immigration reform. I’m not sure he’s right — there are reasons to believe that scandal is good for compromise — but pushing Holder out might hand the GOP a base-pleasing “victory” that they could then use for cover in making a deal on amnesty. And of course, Senate and House Dems are worried that if the scandals deepen, it’ll wreck whatever small chance they still have of a big victory in 2014. According to one senior strategist, “The entire party is interested that the White House gets this dealt with. It makes it very, very tough.” Dumping Holder won’t itself salve the wound of an unrelated scandal like the IRS kerfuffle, but he’s a big enough name that it’ll help.

Who will replace him, though? Well, how about … Fitz! It was Bush who made him a U.S. Attorney, where he prosecuted many a Chicago sleazebag (including Democrats George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich), but he’s most famous of course for the Plame investigation and prosecution of Scooter Libby. Republicans won’t make too much of a stink about that lest they be seen defending Dubya’s administration and Democrats won’t make much of a stink about Fitzgerald because they’ll be exceptionally eager to finally turn the page on this mess. Surely there are 60 votes in the Senate for a guy who made his own name as a good government type operating in Obama’s corrupt home state.

Exit question: Have any reporters followed up yet on Holder’s absurd non-explanation for why he didn’t issue a written recusal in the AP investigation? Kind of important to do so, right?

Update: Oops, total brainlock on my part. Blagojevich is a Democrat but George Ryan is a Republican. Oh well — only makes the bipartisan case for confirming Fitz more compelling.


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c-ya

however, dear leader is not going to let him go…no way no how

cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Many Holder supporters view him as a proxy of sorts for the president,

Many? Or all six of them?

KingGold on May 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

The corrupt Democrat Whisperer..

Electrongod on May 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Unless he wants to go, he’s not going. Neither of these historical men will be put out of office. Besides, like Rush said this afternoon, Holder knows where all the bodies are buried in the Clinton and Obama administrations.

Cindy Munford on May 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

*On camera, with puppy dog eyes, lower lip sticking out* It`s so hard being a black man in America, but if you want me to go-”

“No, no! Please stay! Sorry, we know we`re being insensitive. Water under the bridge!”

ThePrez on May 20, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Holder will be for Obama what Rumsfeld was for Bush… someone who should have been replaced immediately after reelection.

ninjapirate on May 20, 2013 at 8:47 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

Sebelius?

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Fast and Furious did not involve the president, so who do you focus on? The attorney general,” D.C. Delegate to Congress Eleanor Holmes Norton said. “He’s taking the flak for the president.”…

Yeah and pigs can fly.

bgibbs1000 on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

“Experienced Democrats” whispering that it might be time for Holder to go.

What they should be whispering is……..

“Experienced Democrats” whispering that it might be time for Holder Obama to go.

PappyD61 on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

Sebelius!

Rovin on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

HOLDER=JAIL

TX-96 on May 20, 2013 at 8:49 PM

To jail, yes.

rbj on May 20, 2013 at 8:50 PM

scapegoating Holder for Obama’s anti-leak practices might help liberal O-bots resolve the cognitive dissonance between their idealized view of the Unicorn Prince as a champion of good government and the unpleasant daily reality. Blame Holder, boot him out, and then they can gaze once again at O as the fantasy president they wished he was.

Why you are the one and only AP.

You will be audited.

Holder needs to go to prison.

The dam hasn’t even cracked, yet. It’s just now beginning to get interesting.

The CYA is not done, by fare. Scapegoating them was NOT a good idea.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 8:51 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

S/b the two scumhags and capos of the admin: Sibelius and Napolitano.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Weiner/Holder — 2016

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM

If ditching Holder won’t really hurt Obama, then I want Holder staying on. Once he’s gone, he becomes a non-player despite him having more baggage lying around than JFK airport at Thankgsgiving. If Holder goes, the Dems will say, “You got your pound of flesh; he’s no longer in government. He’s irrelevant and you’re still on a witch hunt.”

If Obama’s past is any indicator, he’ll tell everyone pushing for Holder’s resignation to get stuffed. Obama is likely to double-down just to prove no one can make him do anything.

I also don’t want any backroom deals where Holder is ‘sacrificed’ to get support for amnesty. The issues aren’t related, and we don’t want amnesty anyway. I hope the Pubs aren’t going to do this to our country again.

Liam on May 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Holder knows everything and has faithfully been doing Barry’s and Valerie Jarrett’s dirtywork. He ain’t going nowhere. Obama will go before Holder goes. If Holder gets angry and spills his guts, it’s going to be a very bad day for the president and his henchwoman.

Philly on May 20, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Valerie Jarrett…

d1carter on May 20, 2013 at 8:54 PM

It is long since past the time Holder should have gone….

His “gutsy” move to come to the aid of the New Black Panther Party after their 2008 voter intimidation conviction in Philly would have driven any other Attorney General from DC…on a rail.

But, Holder is three things…a friend/worshipper of Obama; Black, therefore historic or something; and a shameless hater of whites…well, conservative American whites.

So, the Left, the progressives, will defends him to the death…unless they get new marching orders. [There is a classic episode of the original Twilight Zone that addressed this sort of thing...when the Left determines that Holder is obsolete...]

For now…Holder, just as Obama…will skate.

coldwarrior on May 20, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Two more Fox reporters listed as co-conspirators.
But the press will never let it get to the general public.
And there are too many dems in the senate for there to be real justice.
No the Republicans focus should be on dramatizing and personalizing the scandals so that the American public associates the Democratic party will abuse of power.

Iblis on May 20, 2013 at 8:55 PM

but pushing Holder out might hand the GOP a base-pleasing “victory” that they could then use for cover in making a deal on amnesty.

So the anti-American thug has to go in order for 20 million
non-American cholos and jihadies to get on welfare legally ?
Is that what the Eightidiots are “debating” ?

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

You know what…there seems to be a pattern developing here…

d1carter on May 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

holder ain’t going anywhere, he has complete confidence in him

cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

where he prosecuted many a Chicago sleazebag (including Democrats George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich)

George Ryan is a Republican.

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Exit question: Have any reporters followed up yet on Holder’s absurd non-explanation for why he didn’t issue a written recusal in the AP investigation? Kind of important to do so, right?

holder doesn’t know anything.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/05/16/eric-holder-just-doesnt-know-n1598543

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Holder go?

That would be like Al Capone losing Frank Nitti.

VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Holder was just doing what Obama wanted.

Dusty on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Sebelius!

Rovin on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Beat me to it.

I’d love nothing more than to toss that Frank Burns-looking, fake-Catholic prog right out on the smug stick-up her arse she conducts herself with.

budfox on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

“Experienced Democrats” whispering that it might be time for Holder to go

Will never happen — and he can be accountable for no crime … that would be racist, don’t you know?

/Leftist indoctrination and incompetence and incineration of independents insurance policy

ShainS on May 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Who will replace him, though? Well, how about … Fitz! It was Bush who made him a U.S. Attorney, where he prosecuted many a Chicago sleazebag (including Democrats George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich), but he’s most famous of course for the Plame investigation and prosecution of Scooter Libby. Republicans won’t make too much of a stink about that lest they be seen defending Dubya’s administration and Democrats won’t make much of a stink about Fitzgerald because they’ll be exceptionally eager to finally turn the page on this mess.

Do they really want someone at Justice who knows where the Chicago bodies are buried? Rahm Emanuel and turned out to be not loyal enough to Team O to stay around — given all the scandals, do they want another non-syncopate with the power to control investigations and who knows how the game has been played in the Windy City. Sounds like a future Archibald Cox v2.0 set-up for Obama if the scandals keep dripping out.

jon1979 on May 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM

but pushing Holder out might hand the GOP a base-pleasing “victory” that they could then use for cover in making a deal on amnesty.

dand squishy gop will fall for it too…

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Holder was just doing what Obama wanted.

Dusty on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Are you sure? Maybe he simply fell victim to more of those rogue, low-level workers that are so prevalent and powerful in government these days. /

Liam on May 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Hagel and Kerry are two dumb toads. No one is scared of them.

Sebelius/Holder/Napolitano are Obama’s capos.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 9:04 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

I don’t know who it will be, but I know who it should be:
Kathleen Sebelius.

BKeyser on May 20, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Let’s not forget Holder worked for the previous Democrat pResidency.

Just sayin’.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Unfortunately he would be replaced with Deval Patrick who would be even worse….the GOP would rubber stamp him so as not to be called racists and probably give away the farm for good measure….

Caseoftheblues on May 20, 2013 at 9:12 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

Wait, you mean it hasn’t been Napolitano all this time? I’m honestly stunned. I mean, Holder is a corrupt mean-spirited incompetent. Napolitano is a butch corrupt mean-spirited troll overseeing the routine molestation of private travelers.

As for “Endgame?” It isn’t the endgame even if Holder goes. Not even the beginning of the endgame. It would be, perhaps, the end of the beginning-game.

Gingotts on May 20, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Given the absolute top-to-bottom corruption of this administration and the executive branch, whether Holder goes or not is sort of… irrelevant.

Personally, would prefer to see him hang on to the bitter end, self-recused and professedly ignorant of everything, whispered and murmured about, and– one can hope– outflanked by a couple of special prosecutors.

de rigueur on May 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM

I don’t think so.

Holder is a firewall. He’s already been held in contempt of Congress, so there isn’t much left they can do to him. Even if that contempt citation goes against hm, and it likely will, it is a civil matter and he doesn’t face jail time unless he defies a court order to respond fully to the supoenas.

He has also proven himself willing to engage in just about any kind of illegality in the service of Obama. Tools like that aren’t so easy to find.

Obama can’t afford a glory hound or even just a competent & semi-ethical lawyer to take Holder’s place. If Holder goes, look for some unknown but confirmable milquetoast with a clean record that will dither for the balance of Barry’s term.

novaculus on May 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM

I sincerely hope they mean to Hell.

SickofLibs on May 20, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I sincerely hope they mean to Hell.

SickofLibs on May 20, 2013 at 9:16 PM

or jail. That would be nice.

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Sebelius!

Rovin on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Why the long face?

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Sebelius!

Rovin on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Beat me to it.

I’d love nothing more than to toss that Frank Burns-looking, fake-Catholic prog right out on the smug stick-up her arse she conducts herself with.

budfox on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

How can you be mad at someone who wears gosnel fabric shoes and bone jewelry?

acyl72 on May 20, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Since it is the Department of Jihad,
let’s get Loogie Fairy Khan as AG already……
and get it over with

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 9:25 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

Clearly Napolitano.

jimver on May 20, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Blagojevich is a Democrat but George Ryan is a Republican. Oh well — only makes the bipartisan case for confirming Fitz more compelling.

So Fitz basically has been persecuting Obama’s enemies in Sh**cago ? WOW !!!

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 9:34 PM

How about this one? Holder has perverted the whole idea and system of justice. He is a partisan ideologue who contorts law into an unrecognizable shape.

onlineanalyst on May 20, 2013 at 9:49 PM

As for Holder, you already know the problems with replacing him — arguably it fuels the fire of scandalmania rather than dousing the flames, and it gives Obama a new problem in trying to find a replacement who’s acceptable to both sides.

You mean those who confirmed Kerry and Brennan? Those sides? The question is, who could Obama nominate that they wouldn’t confirm? OK, Susan Rice, but name someone else.

AZfederalist on May 20, 2013 at 9:51 PM

The only way Holder goes before The One leaves office (assuming The One ever intends to) is if he has a pre-signed Presidential Pardon in his pocket. Otherwise, things he knows, and could testify about to Congress to save his own a$$, could and would sink the Messiah.

He was Clinton’s point man on attacking the Second Amendment, and ran Fast & Furious as The One’s point man on the same thing. Add in that DOJ probably knows more about exactly who, and what, is crossing the Mexico U.S. border every day (that The One just doesn’t want to deal with- “undocumented voters” are his DREAM, drug gangs, slavers, street gangs and jihadis are the reality he doesn’t want to see), and Holder has The One by a very sensitive part of his anatomy.

And having served under the Clintons, I’m quite sure he has an insurance policy to forestall any “accidents”, “heart attacks”, or “Oh my G-d, the dog ate Eric!!”s.

The One is linked to Holder like Genovese was linked to Luciano. You may remember, to take one of them down, the other had to be convinced to leave the country first. (The other choice being Sing Sing.)

Holder isn’t going to accept that choice.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 20, 2013 at 9:54 PM

And let’s not accept the premises of these “narratives” that excuse the administration:

While head of the NSC isn’t a post requiring Senate confirmation, appointing Rice would reignite the firestorm in this largely faux scandal.

and

“Fast and Furious did not involve the president, so who do you focus on?

Has that claim been proven?

Support for Holder remains strong among many on the legal left, especially after he and his department came out hard against voter identification laws and other measures they said could disenfranchise minorities

Just because they claim such, have they proven such? Voter ID is a threat to honest elections? Since when?

onlineanalyst on May 20, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Many Holder supporters view him as a proxy of sorts for the president, absorbing political blows that Republicans would like to administer directly to Obama but can’t without violating certain principles of decorum.

Yes, I remember when Democrats lived by the principles of decorum during the previous administration.

JR on May 20, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Just because they claim such, have they proven such? Voter ID is a threat to honest elections? Since when?

onlineanalyst on May 20, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Honest election; One the Democrat candidate wins.

Mandate; Any Democrat win, even by a single vote. (Never mind where that vote came from.)

Threat; Election laws actually being enforced as per the statutes, which inevitably disadvantages Democrats.

/Democratpedia

clear ether

eon

eon on May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Barry will do none of it. Holder is his pal, and knows where the bodies are buried. Nope, Barry will just double down on stupid and start claiming “Executive Privilege”.

GarandFan on May 20, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Geez! So much navel gazing over firing a guy who is doing things he should be fired for.

This is what’s wrong with DC, politicians and their staffs and pundits.

Vince on May 20, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Republicans won’t make too much of a stink about that lest they be seen defending Dubya’s administration and Democrats won’t make much of a stink about Fitzgerald because they’ll be exceptionally eager to finally turn the page on this mess.

Wrong!!!!!

Patrick Fitzgerald pursued the White House knowing full well from the start Richard Armitage leaked the information. But still he conducted a witch hunt. The best he could do was a perjury charge and obstruction charge against Scooter Libby. He was rewarded by the Obama White House by allowing him to be one of the few US Attorneys to keep his job with the change of administrations.

His only saving grace is he couldn’t be as bad as Holder. But he is no friend of Republicans.

Corky Boyd on May 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Holder’s not going anywhere, especially now with all these scandals.

The Rogue Tomato on May 20, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Holder is Obama’s trained attack dog. When a man’s dog goes wild and hurts people–the owner is held to be at fault. How is it that simple legal and social fact escapes from reality for the leftist ruling class?

Holder needs to be tried by an impartial jury for criminal behavior and his boss…?

Don L on May 21, 2013 at 5:18 AM

Their thinking? “You get Holder, we get to keep Obama!”

There are so many who need to go find real jobs — Obama, Hillary, the entire White House staff, Susan Rice, Sebelius, all of the IRS, the EPA. So many that it might even exhaust the seemingly unlimited resources of the Leftist groups for whom these people otherwise would go to work.

Mdirmeie on May 21, 2013 at 7:48 AM

Actually, this is simple math for Obama. The kind he understands and does everyday.

Is Holder potentially more problematic for him if he’s on the outside or on the inside? If the math starts to point to the latter, he’s out. Obama has a very big bus and has no problems throwing people under it, even people who are close to him.

But for now, it’s the former. Holder stays on as long as that’s true.

Chris of Rights on May 21, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Should he go? Should have a long time ago, with Fast & Furious. WILL he go? No. Will Obama fire his sorry a$$? I wouldn’t bet on it. Holder knows where all the bodies are.

scalleywag on May 21, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Looks like they’re going to brazen it all out with Holder, if the level of cockamamie excuses for Obama is any indication. The hardcorps 48% won’t sag as long as they’re “gettin’ stuff.”

I was a senior at Columbia when Holder was a Freshman. It seemed pretty clear he was there to play basketball…period. Columbia the great enabler. He had that deer-in-the-headlights look, even back then. I wonder if he could see the future.

Obama came later. No one remembers him. My guess is he applied and enrolled as an “exchange student.” He probably had more than one passport, and name at the time (Soetoro?). That’s one reason why Columbia won’t release his transcripts among others. Exchange students have special classes and get other breaks. I’ll bet he got good grades in those classes, being surprising fluent in American English for an exchange student.

Columbia the great enabler. I’m so proud of my alma mater. Did you hear Bomber Boudin got an award for social work from “Kremlin-on-the-Hudson?” I wonder what posthumous awards Osama Stalin, Bin Laden, Yasser Arafat will get?

Limpet6 on May 21, 2013 at 9:20 AM

“Fast and Furious did not involve the president, so who do you focus on? The attorney general,” D.C. Delegate to Congress Eleanor Holmes Norton said. “He’s taking the flak for the president.”…

Then he probably shouldn’t have invoked Executive Privilege and sealed the documents since the President can only do that with issues where he or his direct reports had knowledge of the event.

dominigan on May 21, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Holder has already been measured for the front tire on the bus. When the time comes he will assume the position under it for his leader. He will be kept on until he is needed to save Obama’s ass.

inspectorudy on May 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Experienced Sewer Worker Among Our Elites.

We need him for the IRS inquiry! Get someone without his unique qualification on federal taxation matters in the pardon of Marc Rich. This man was a Clinton contributor whom Mr. Holder pardoned. Mr Holder understood that Mr. Rich’s contributions and the efforts of Mrs. Rich in contributions to the Clinton library and even parties thrown for Bill Clinton and likely duty on her knees were actually a form of tax. Further, Mr. Rich’s breaking of the Iran oil embargo after fleeing the US made him a redeemed character after his years of theft and fraud on Wall Street.

That is the anti-Holder take.

Here is wikki:

In 1983 Rich and Green were indicted by then-U.S. Federal Prosecutor (and future mayor of New York City) Rudolph Giuliani, on illegal trading with Iran and charges of tax evasion. At the time it was the biggest tax evasion case in U.S. history.[13] They were indicted while they were in Switzerland. The pair failed to return to the U.S. following the indictment, and were on the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Ten Most-Wanted Fugitives List for many years.
In 1989 the U.S. Justice Department ceased using statutes of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act in tax cases such as the one in which Rich and Green were indicted, and relied instead on civil lawsuits.[14] However, Marc Rich remained on page 1 of the Justice Department’s Most Wanted International Fugitives.[15]
On 20 January 2001, hours before leaving office, Clinton granted Rich a presidential pardon
As Denise Rich had made large donations to the U.S. Democratic Party and the Clinton Library during Clinton’s time in office, Clinton’s critics alleged that Rich’s pardon had been bought. Marc Rich had made substantial donations to Israeli charitable foundations. Clinton explained his decision by noting that similar situations were settled in civil, not criminal court, and cited clemency pleas from Israeli government officials, including then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Federal Prosecutor Mary Jo White was appointed to investigate. She stepped down before the investigation was finished and was replaced by James Comey. Comey was critical of Clinton’s pardons and Eric Holder’s pardon recommendation.[16] According to Rich’s attorney, Holder advised to circumvent standard procedures and to submit the pardon petition directly to the White House.[17]
As a condition to the pardon, it was made clear that Rich would drop all procedural defenses against any civil actions brought against him by the U.S. upon his return there. That condition was consistent with the position that his alleged wrongdoing warranted only civil penalties, not criminal punishment. As of November 2010, Rich has not returned to the U.S.[citation needed] During hearings after Rich’s pardon, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, who had represented Rich from 1985 until the spring of 2000, denied that Rich had violated the tax laws but criticized him for trading with Iran at a time when that country was holding U.S. hostages.[18]
In his 18 February 2001 op-ed essay in The New York Times, Clinton (by then out of office) explained why he pardoned Rich, noting that U.S. tax professors Bernard Wolfman of the Harvard Law School and Martin Ginsburg of Georgetown University Law Center, concluded that no crime was committed, and that Rich’s companies’ tax-reporting position was reasonable.[14] In the same essay Clinton listed Libby as one of three “distinguished Republican lawyers” who supported a pardon for Marc Rich.
Clinton’s pardon was also supported by Spain’s King Juan Carlos I,[citation needed] Abraham Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League and Rabbi Irving Greenberg, the presidentially appointed chairman of the governing board of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.[6] Speculation about another rationale for Rich’s pardon involves his alleged involvement with the Israeli intelligence community.[19][20] Rich claims he provided valuable information to the Mossad, Israel’s intelligence service.[10]

IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM

“Experienced Democrats” whispering that it might be time for Holder to go…”

Yeah, go to JAIL!

UNDER CLINTON:
- Helped in the pardon of Mark Rich…
- Helped in the pardon for terrorist group FALN members, caught hiding files in the process (Just the way Hillary was caught hiding files durnig Watergate)
- Argued for leniency for terrorist group Weathermen Underground members caugh transporting 740lbs of TNT to use in more bombings

UNDER OBAMA:
- Stepped in to drop Criminal Charges against New Black Panthers members arrested in 2008 for voter intimidation
- Perpetrated 3 Felony Counts of Perjury before Congress during the Fast & Furious investigation, was protected by his DOJ who refused to press charges, leaving Holder to become the 1st Atty General to be CENSURED (for criminal acticity)

This wire-tapping scandal dwarfs Nixon’s Watergate…and it is hard to buy the argument that the Atty General who has already been CAUGHT COMMITTING CRIMES in covering up an Obama scandal would not do so in the 3 NEW scandals! The ‘fact’ that Hoder ‘doesn’t/didn’t know’ his Deputy & DOJ was involved in criminal wire-tapping of numerous News organizations/reporters & had no clue the IRS was involved in criminally targeting Conservatives & Jews is enough to demand his IMMEDIATE resignation (at the least). As ointed out, he should already be a ‘CONVICTED FELON’ sitting in a prison cell next to Scooter Libby’s!

easyt65 on May 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM