Why did the IRS keep the scandal quiet until after the election? Update: Treasury Dep’t knew last year

posted at 2:01 pm on May 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Standard, let’s approach the question this way: If it wasn’t the prospect of Precious losing the election that kept the lid on this until November had safely come and gone, what was it? As Lisa Myers notes below, lots of people knew that something smelly was going on and yet no one said a word. Not a single whistleblower could muster the courage to go to the media with this in 2012, despite (or because of) the fact that tea-party complaints had proliferated last spring to the point where Republican congressmen had gotten involved. There was visible smoke, but no one from the agency itself would confirm the existence of a fire until last week. Why?

Three possibilities. One: They were holding their breath in hopes that the IG’s report wouldn’t be that bad. Only last week, after discovering that it would indeed be pretty harsh, was it finally in their interest to pretend to be stand-up guys by apologizing. Why cop to wrongdoing before you know for a fact that you’re in trouble? Such is the ass-covering mindset of the fine, civic-minded employees at the IRS, apparently. Two: They wanted time to undo what they’d done, in order to make themselves appear contrite when the IG’s bombshell finally dropped. That’s super if true, but according to the IG’s timeline, less partisan criteria for processing 501(c)(4) orgs were instituted last May. They could have spent three months trying to clean up their mess and still come clean long before election day. There’s no obvious reason to wait until November, let alone May 2013. Three: It’s just what it looks like. The IRS’s higher-ups were all in the tank for another term of Hopenchange. There’s circumstantial evidence to believe that’s true, but if you’re feeling slightly more charitable, you might conclude that it wasn’t Obama himself that they were invested in so much as their own careers. If they blew the whistle on what was happening and O ended up winning the election anyway, then they’re in deep trouble for having tried, but failed, to derail their boss’s chance at history. Not a happy place to be if you’re a time-serving tax apparatchik. So they kept quiet to stay on Obama’s good side. If that’s what happened, it tells you a lot about what they think of their superiors’ capacity for politically-motivated retaliation.

Update: The NYT sees a very bad narrative developing…

The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating allegations that the Internal Revenue Service had targeted conservative groups, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

At the first Congressional hearing into the I.R.S. scandal, J. Russell George, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration, told members of the House Ways and Means Committee that he informed the Treasury’s general counsel of his investigation on June 4, and Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin “shortly thereafter.” The new information came as part of a routine briefing of the investigations that the inspector general would be conducting in the coming year, and he did not tell the officials of his conclusions that the targeting had been improper, he said.


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verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM

If we’re so irrelevant, why did you libs feel need to stop us?

You’re comical, you know that? You say we’re an insignificant minority that is so powerful we need to be stopped. No one listens to us, but we need to be silenced.

there is something very sick in you liberals. And YOU in particular.

You despise us, think we’re worthless nothings. Well, then — why do you keep coming here to annoy the Conservatives here? If we’re nothing as you think of us, then why bother? Or is it that you invade our quiet space just to be annoying?

Either way, your own presence and actions here say more about YOU than they do about us.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM

~blinks~

Okay — How did my response end up ahead of the person to whom I was responding?

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Government hackers are fine tuning ways to make it look like Obama called Benghazi a terrorist attack the first time he talked to the American people.

There’s a lot of internet out there that says otherwise, collateral damage is probable.

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Well, so much for me thinking I’m a seer with magical powers and deja vu. Thanks for bursting my bubble! LOL

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Well, so much for me thinking I’m a seer with magical powers and deja vu. Thanks for bursting my bubble! LOL

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Time travellers, please return to your respective presents.

nobar on May 17, 2013 at 3:07 PM

They’re heeeeeere!

GWB on May 17, 2013 at 2:57 P

Indeed.

Added a bit of color commentary, but summed up the basics of the plan in a succinct fashion.
Liberal clarity indeed.

Jabberwock on May 17, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Time travellers, please return to your respective presents.

nobar on May 17, 2013 at 3:07 PM

But…but…If I go back before you posted that after having seen it, will you still post it in your future?

Oh, forget it! I’m so confused now I feel like a liberal!

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Jabberwock on May 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM

They’re heeeeeere!

GWB on May 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM

School’s out early today.

CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 3:10 PM

If they blew the whistle on what was happening and O ended up winning the election anyway, then they’re in deep trouble for having tried, but failed, to derail their boss’s chance at history. Not a happy place to be if you’re a time-serving tax apparatchik. So they kept quiet to stay on Obama’s good side. If that’s what happened, it tells you a lot about what they think of their superiors’ capacity for politically-motivated retaliation.
– AP

This is perhaps the most amazing bit of leaps of logic I’ve ever read.
I mean, a good and fun read…but talk about the creative mind.
What color shirt do you imagine this whistle blower wearing?
Let’s call him ‘Sal’.
Does Sal have kids?
I’m thinking one…who doesn’t speak to him anymore.
No…wait, 2 kids. Twins.
Sal works hard. But everyday he agonizes over his participation in the evils of tyrannical government.
Then one day, Sal comes upon an email…from a superior…that he was not meant to read.

Who wants to pick it up there?

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

But…but…If I go back before you posted that after having seen it, will you still post it in your future?

Oh, forget it! I’m so confused now I feel like a liberal!

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Your presence in the past is causing my phone to also have a time travel bug.

Please go.

nobar on May 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

You despise us, think we’re worthless nothings.
Liam on May 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Not at all –
but if I’ve hurt your feelings, I apologize.

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Shut up and go play Switch.

YOU have no cred here. YOU are one of many trolls, and you all say the same thing.

YOU are useless even to your own side.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Who wants to pick it up there?
verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Ok, Me , Me, I’ll pick it up:

Then there was a gimp called Verbal, because he just rambles on constantly , makes stuff up as he goes, who tried to convince the world that the devil didn’t exist.

As he walked off, the gimpiness disappeared to reveal that the douchey Verbal was actually David Axelrod.

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Sorry about your bubble. To take your mind off of that tragedy I suppose you could start wondering why some of your posts have been out of order but mine are fine.

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Wiseguy…;-)

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM

They’re in the tank, and they’re invested in their own careers. NO conflict.

If Conservatives and the Tea Party had ridden 2010 success to 2012 defeat for Obama, the IRS would have been significantly reduced in size and power. On the other hand, if Obama prevailed, ObamaCare meant huge expansion of size and power for the IRS to the direct benefit of those in charge.

They understood who posed the threat. They perverted the agency’s monstrous power to their mutual agendas with Obama.

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 3:20 PM

you all say the same thing.

YOU are useless even to your own side.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM

What am I saying that you disagree with?
You dispute my assertion that Tea Party’s influence has waned…at all?
You’re free to think that, and perhaps you’re all worked up and defensive because of a strong personal connection to and involvement with the movement.
But if you think it’s just the ‘trolls’ and ‘liberals’ who assert this, then you need to spend some time off the reservation.

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Well, so much for me thinking I’m a seer with magical powers and deja vu. Thanks for bursting my bubble! LOL

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Sorry about your bubble. To take your mind off of that tragedy I suppose you could start wondering why some of your posts have been out of order but mine are fine.

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 3:21 PM

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

The fact is, you could give a sh*t about your dear leader and his minions lying. As long as they continue goose stepping to the destruction of Capitalism and instituting some sick twisted socialist fairness doctrine. Bottom dwelling slug.

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Wow, Townhall IT folks up to… er, down to their historical level of technological proficiency and performance, I see.

At least the comments are in the right threads.

I think.

Midas on May 17, 2013 at 3:24 PM

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

The fact is, you could give a sh*t about your dear leader and his minions lying. As long as they continue goose stepping to the destruction of Capitalism and instituting some sick twisted socialist fairness doctrine. Bottom dwelling slug.

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Bottom dwelling slug…
As opposed to a flying one?
Don’t think any slug can goose step.

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM

If Conservatives and the Tea Party had ridden 2010 success to 2012 defeat for Obama, the IRS would have been significantly reduced in size and power.

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 3:20 PM

I get your point, but I think you’re dreaming. There weren’t nearly enough TEA party votes out there to curtail the IRS and reduce the Rube Goldberg tax structure in our national government. We’d still be better off than we are now, but nowhere near “significantly reduced in size and power”.

GWB on May 17, 2013 at 3:28 PM

verbie, you should fight with us against tyranny. This is not a leftie/rightie thing. All people who think should be against a tyrannical gov’t, from any side.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 3:28 PM

There was visible smoke, but no one from the agency itself would confirm the existence of a fire until last week. Why?


A weekend takeaway for you, AP

Three scandals prioritized by media interest:

1) The AP secret wiretapping – THIS is the barnburner … THIS is the outrage of outrages … THIS is only the first snowflake of a potential blizzard of government wiretapping done to facilitate intimidation of ANY criticism of the SCOAMF administration. The SCOAMF administration used the Patriot Act as a departure point for tripling the warrantless surveillance of Americans (remember the ACLU lawsuit?) – that adds up to a mega-crapton more than 20 AP employees. The MSM has this as it’s first priority because they are up to their necks in the next two. The MSM would, at this point, LOVE to sacrifice the SCOAMF and all around him … so their part in Washington corruption gets ignored.

2) The IRS acting as the Kneebreakers – IF the MSM was doing their usual driven by the ratings dance, this should be their lead each and every night. EVERYONE can relate to it. EVERYONE hates the IRS. So why is the MSM shuffling away? Hmmmmmmm, we’ve already had Pro Publica admit they were given opposition research information from confidential IRS files. Does ANYONE think that two bit advocacy group was the ONLY beneficiary? Last week, Carney took 14 “reliable” MSM companies aside for a “background brief” and set off an earthquake of his own. If the IRS is funneling information to Pro Publica – the IRS was funneling information hand over fist to AT LEAST the 14 “reliable” MSM companies. How desperate would you be, if you had been receiving Americans confidential IRS information, to do EVERYTHING you could to keep from having that tidbit leak out?

3) The Benghazi Clusterfark – The MSM went after Romney like a rabid wolverine for making the EXACT same statement made later in the newscycle by the SCOAMF administration. Why? … Maybe they already had a background brief summarized as follows; “The President had a terrible night last night. Though it tore his guts out, he made the tough choice to let the people in Benghazi stand or fall on their own. There were too many Libyan civilians mixed in with the terrorists. If we had sent resources in we would have had a lot of civilian collateral deaths. We would also have permanently lost the ability to try to shape Libya’s political structure. Some of you are aware we have a large CIA operation ongoing to recover Libyan Stinger missiles. Killing innoent civilians would have derailed that mission which is critical to avoiding these weapons showing up here in the U.S.. We are asking each of your organizations to help us shape this story to protect the national security and prevent a clear and present danger from reaching our shores.”

The problem with acting in direct coordination with the government is any MSM outlet that does what they are TOLD to do has permanently lost ALL credibility that it will act impartially from that point on. Which brings us to the fourth scandal:

4) The MSM as Propaganda Merchants – Mull this one over during the weekend. Consider the implications and ramifications of THIS scandal making its way into the public conciousness. NOTE: Benghazi is NOT the first time the MSM has been co-opted into being the Propaganda Merchants. They were originally co-opted in early March 2009 when they were told, “If we don’t stop the markets slide NOW by changing public perception and confidence; well, I guess we will still see each other in the soup lines.”

PolAgnostic on May 17, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Who wants to pick it up there?

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

nobody I suspect.
jimver on May 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Shame.
Seems it might have been a good outlet and device for all the theories present and those yet to come.

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:21 PM

I don’t read most of your posts, that last one included.

You are just so…common, pedestrian.

You don’t offer anything here except the typical and predictable, the mundane and run-of-the-mill. I bet you bomb out among your friends and family far worse than you do here.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Who wants to pick it up there?

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

nobody I suspect. why on earth would anybody want to have anything to do with the meaningless ramblings of an intellectually challenged individual such as yourself? rhetorical, I’m afraid…

jimver on May 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I hope your papers are in order. They really must be on to you.

….But you knew that…like yesterday even.

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 3:37 PM

I knew you were going to say that…:-)

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

NYT: Official Says Treasury Dept. Knew of I.R.S. Inquiry in 2012

The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating allegations that the Internal Revenue Service had targeted conservative groups, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Sorry about your bubble. To take your mind off of that tragedy I suppose you could start wondering why some of your posts have been out of order but mine are fine.

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Wiseguy…;-)

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM

I hope your papers are in order. They really must be on to you.

….But you knew that…like yesterday even.

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Ok, Me , Me, I’ll pick it up:

Then there was a gimp called Verbal, because he just rambles on constantly , makes stuff up as he goes, who tried to convince the world that the devil didn’t exist.

As he walked off, the gimpiness disappeared to reveal that the douchey Verbal was actually David Axelrod.

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Bit of a ramble there yourself…but I think your theory that I am David Axlerod fits well with the ‘can you prove it’s NOT true’ approach to hypotheticals here.
So A for effort.

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:38 PM

NYT: Official Says Treasury Dept. Knew of I.R.S. Inquiry in 2012

The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating allegations that the Internal Revenue Service had targeted conservative groups, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

That doesn’t mean Obama knew though. After all, he’s only the President. How could he be expected to be aware of the goings on in an “independent” branch of government like the Treasury Dept? He found out on TV like the rest of us.

/

Doughboy on May 17, 2013 at 3:40 PM

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:38 PM

If pompsity was gold, you would be a very rich Troll.

kingsjester on May 17, 2013 at 3:40 PM

At the first Congressional hearing into the I.R.S. scandal, J. Russell George, the Treasury inspector general for tax administration, told members of the House Ways and Means Committee that he informed the Treasury’s general counsel of his investigation on June 4, and Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin “shortly thereafter.” The new information came as part of a routine briefing of the investigations that the inspector general would be conducting in the coming year, and he did not tell the officials of his conclusions that the targeting had been improper, he said.

So that Wolin & Co. knew that they only had to keep everybody quiet for 5 months, and then everything would be hunky-dory.

What if the IG had NOT told anyone at Treasury he would be conducting an investigation, and would be able to find his information more quickly and issue a report in, say, October 2012?

Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Happy Friday! Haven’t been around enough, haven’t seen you all day.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:42 PM

The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating allegations that the Internal Revenue Service had targeted conservative groups, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

What did Geithner know and when did he know it?

Well we now have a good idea on both of them.

Now isn’t it about time that TurboTax Tim gets a real grilling on his lack of oversight of this rogue agency under his purview?

ajacksonian on May 17, 2013 at 3:43 PM

If pompsity was gold, you would be a very rich Troll.

kingsjester on May 17, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Pomposity is sh*t. And he’s full of it.

Typical liberal, typical troll. Typical of him.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:43 PM

You are typically humorless.
Try and have a pleasant wknd?

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM

You might work for him, but if you get more than half minimum wage, he is overpaying you.

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I always thought these trolls were cheap Soros funded hacks. He buys them up by the dozen so he can easily dispose of them later.

ajacksonian on May 17, 2013 at 3:47 PM

You might work for him, but if you get more than half minimum wage, he is overpaying you.

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2013 at 3:52 PM

.
It gets free minutes on TheReggieLoveLine for posting the talking points.

PolAgnostic on May 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Shame.
Seems it might have been a good outlet and device for all the theories present and those yet to come.

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Naw. With posting problems today, the narrative might be a bit fragmented.
kind of like Dem testimony and talking points this week

Jabberwock on May 17, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Naw, Verbal, I don’t really think you are David Axelrod; that was just a fictional device to reveal your intent here.

The real David Axelrod wouldn’t waste his time trying to argue with Hot Air peon commenters . He would be out schmoozing his MSM buddies to make sure they continue to spin the facts to keep the average low-info sheep in line.

You might work for him, but if you get more than half minimum wage, he is overpaying you.

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2013 at 3:52 PM

You are typically humorless.
Try and have a pleasant wknd?

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM

You are an ass-maggot.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM

You are typically humorless.
Try and have a pleasant wknd?

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I have plenty of humor. I laugh at YOU all the time.

Not only you, but also all the other trolls.

so consider yourself in ‘good company’, as it were.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 3:57 PM

“The problem with acting in direct coordination with the government is any MSM outlet that does what they are TOLD to do has permanently lost ALL credibility that it will act impartially from that point on.”
PolAgnostic on May 17, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Further on that vein…
“We’ve already established what you are, madam.
Now we’re just haggling over the price.”

Tenwheeler on May 17, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Fascinating!

My reply to LegendHasIt’s post

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2013 at 3:52 PM

… shows up with a three minute EARLIER time stamp even though it includes the entirety of his post.

PolAgnostic on May 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM


EUREKA!!!
My Flux Capacitor Troll Time Buster™ works!!!

Now we can bust the trolls idiocy before they can even post it!!!

PolAgnostic on May 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM

The REAL problem the MSM has?

They just woke up, and in spite of the fantastic meal, the dessert, after dinner cordials, a round of dancing, a great show, and of course that little bauble to wear, much to their shock find a 100 dollar bill on the night stand………

Tenwheeler on May 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM

PolAgnostic on May 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Which puts the lie to the old saw:

Time waits for no man.

Apparently, for some, it will wait.

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 2:55 PM

HA, mine did that too. And it’s 4:12 where I am :)

scalleywag on May 17, 2013 at 4:12 PM

It’s time for all good citizens to do a drive-by at their local IRS office.
Take a sack of garbage/dog doo/cat poop, whatever floats your boat, and drop it off on their front porch. Be careful of the cameras.
Or you could apply the poop to your shoe just before entering to ask for a tax form.
They are very familiar with the garbage in the WH so I’m sure they will appreciate the donations….the rat bastids.
III/0317

dirtengineer on May 17, 2013 at 4:14 PM

I want to know how many of the “Underlings” are members of SEIU?

And the next person that comes to testify before congress I would like a congressman to ask; “Would you please submit to me in writing, the prayer your son/daughter said before bed last night?”

barnone on May 17, 2013 at 4:15 PM

“We didn’t target!”, Targeting is when Sarah Palin put a bulls eye over a congressional district on a map.

serendip2b on May 17, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Well you came to the right place to swim in theories.
I think the latest is that is was done to as a dastardly way to stop the Tea Party movement from achieving full dominance.
I mean, how else could one explain the movement’s decline into irrelevant?

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Why, pray tell, do you think they targeted the tea party specifically? Oh, I’m sure it was just an innocent coincidence.

As far are “irrelevant” – you have no idea what you are talking about. The media refused to cover the tea party movement, then started to cover it claiming it was all racist and now try and claim it is irrelevant.

As usual, you have not logic, facts or honesty of which to speak. It is sad that lefties like you can’t bother to have a real discussion about anything. It must make you wonder whether your political philosophy is the right one. I can’t imagine the constant lying and refusal to face facts is good for one’s faith.

Monkeytoe on May 17, 2013 at 4:25 PM

“We still don’t know for sure what the President knew or when he knew it, but this does confirm that the Administration was aware of the fact that Obama’s political enemies were under fire by the IRS and covered that fact up during an election year.

As Lisa Meyers of NBC News told “Morning Joe” today, “Imagine if we — if you can — what would have happened if this fact came out in September 2012, in the middle of a presidential election? The terrain would have looked very different.”

The first time President Obama was asked when he found out about the IRS scandal, he told the media that he learned of the news last Friday, the same way the rest of us did — from the news media.

Thursday, a Bloomberg reporter asked the President when both he or anyone in the White House learned of the scandal. The President dodged the question.

With this latest news confirming when the Administration first learned of the IRS scandal, we now know that, along with Benghazi and the unfurling Associated Press scandal, that there were three scandals brewing and unfolding in the White House during an election year. But we are only now hearing about them — six months after Barack Obama is safely re-elected.

This fact says as much about the failure of our lapdog national media as it does about President Obama. Why just this morning the Times itself dismissed the IRS scandal on its editorial page…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/17/NYT-Obama-Admin-Aware-of-IRS-Scandal-6-Months-before-Election

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 4:25 PM

PolAgnostic on May 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM
Which puts the lie to the old saw:

Time waits for no man.
Apparently, for some, it will wait.

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2013 at 4:11 PM

HotAir had the same problem last year, it was caused by a bad server.

RickB on May 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM

“We still don’t know for sure what the President knew or when he knew it, but this does confirm that the Administration was aware of the fact that Obama’s political enemies were under fire by the IRS and covered that fact up during an election year.

As Lisa Meyers of NBC News told “Morning Joe” today, “Imagine if we — if you can — what would have happened if this fact came out in September 2012, in the middle of a presidential election? The terrain would have looked very different.”

The first time President Obama was asked when he found out about the IRS scandal, he told the media that he learned of the news last Friday, the same way the rest of us did — from the news media.

Thursday, a Bloomberg reporter asked the President when both he or anyone in the White House learned of the scandal. The President dodged the question.

With this latest news confirming when the Administration first learned of the IRS scandal, we now know that, along with Benghazi and the unfurling Associated Press scandal, that there were three scandals brewing and unfolding in the White House during an election year. But we are only now hearing about them — six months after Barack Obama is safely re-elected.

This fact says as much about the failure of our lapdog national media as it does about President Obama. Why just this morning the Times itself dismissed the IRS scandal on its editorial page…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/17/NYT-Obama-Admin-Aware-of-IRS-Scandal-6-Months-before-Election

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 4:25 PM

has anyone asked team Obama if they wondered about news repots of tea party persecution that occurred last year?

rob verdi on May 17, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 4:37 PM

For those of us who are not tech savy, why is this explosive? Thanks.

esr1951 on May 17, 2013 at 4:36 PM

esr1951 on May 17, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Jeesh…why did my post come RWM’s?

esr1951 on May 17, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Obama IRS Asked Tea Party Groups For Back-End Access to Their Websites

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Sounds like an anal fetish, to me.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM

With Barry, it’s always about the back end. Reggie love would know.

GhoulAid on May 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Hellloooo…the IRS has a vested interest in keeping the Immaculate Anointed One in power. He is the one giving them Job Security by putting them in charge of (un)Affordable Health Care.

They’d be cutting their own throats to do ANYTHING that would allow the opposing party to claim the White House.

Conflict of Interest, anyone?

bigbeachbird on May 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I mean, how else could one explain the movement’s decline into irrelevant?

verbaluce on May 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM

YOU fool, they are not irrelevant. They were silenced after their 2010 success. YOU ain’t seen nada, yet. The TEA is steaming, piping hot. And they are all justified.

Obama did for the TEA party what they couldn’t. Congratulations, fools.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

For those of us who are not tech savy, why is this explosive? Thanks.

esr1951 on May 17, 2013 at 4:36 PM

For example, if your website had commenters like us, it would allow access to their real identities and real email addresses.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

They’re heeeeeere!

GWB on May 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Released from re-ed, as ridiculous as evah. Good times, good times.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Obama will replace nixon as the most corrupt modern POTUS in American’sw mind. Now let’s hope the GOP can stay focused and get Obama the hell out of the whitehouse and failing that let”s ensure the GOP controls both chambers come NOv 2014 so nothing Obama wants gets passed and the Congress reaserts their power that they have abandoned over the last 70 years.

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM

you know all these questions the IRs asked why in the name of all that’s holy didn’t the people just tell the IRs to pound sand? Have we become that much of sheep blindly following “government offical requests’?

there seemed to be very little push back. You must push back on government give them an inch and they take a mile. Just like the lockdown in Boston during the manhunt. The people didn’t pushback when their 4th amendment rights were destoryed so guess what? next time the government will never even think of the 4th amendment.

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’
Ronald Reagan

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:12 PM

The IRS scandal has two parts. The first is the obviously deliberate and targeted abuse, harassment and attempted suppression of conservative groups. The second is the auditing of the taxes of political activists.

In order to suppress conservative groups—at first those with words like “Tea Party” and “Patriot” in their names, then including those that opposed ObamaCare or advanced the second amendment—the IRS demanded donor rolls, membership lists, data on all contributions, names of volunteers, the contents of all speeches made by members, Facebook FB +0.46%posts, minutes of all meetings, and copies of all materials handed out at gatherings. Among its questions: What are you thinking about? Did you ever think of running for office? Do you ever contact political figures? What are you reading? One group sent what it was reading: the U.S. Constitution.

The second part of the scandal is the auditing of political activists who have opposed the administration. The Journal’s Kim Strassel reported an Idaho businessman named Frank VanderSloot, who’d donated more than a million dollars to groups supporting Mitt Romney. He found himself last June, for the first time in 30 years, the target of IRS auditors. His wife and his business were also soon audited. Hal Scherz, a Georgia physician, also came to the government’s attention. He told ABC News: “It is odd that nothing changed on my tax return and I was never audited until I publicly criticized ObamaCare.” Franklin Graham, son of Billy, told Politico he believes his father was targeted. A conservative Catholic academic who has written for these pages faced questions about her meager freelance writing income. Many of these stories will come out, but not as many as there are. People are not only afraid of being audited, they’re afraid of saying they were audited.

All of these IRS actions took place in the years leading up to the 2012 election. They constitute the use of governmental power to intrude on the privacy and shackle the political freedom of American citizens. The purpose, obviously, was to overwhelm and intimidate—to kill the opposition, question by question and audit by audit.

It is not even remotely possible that all this was an accident, a mistake. Again, only conservative groups were targeted, not liberal. It is not even remotely possible that only one IRS office was involved. Lois Lerner, who oversees tax-exempt groups for the IRS, was the person who finally acknowledged, under pressure of a looming investigative report, some of what the IRS was doing. She told reporters the actions were the work of “frontline people” in Cincinnati. But other offices were involved,

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323582904578487460479247792.html

good summation for a Peggy article

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:17 PM

The IRS has always been political. A long time ago, when I was getting my new business going, a competitor, democrapt, got the IRS to audit me five times. By the end of the fifty audit, they found out they owed me $156. He also got the state to audit me, but they took one look and backed off. The NE Oklahoma IRS office was so corrupt, that they had the highest lien rate in the country.

Old Country Boy on May 17, 2013 at 5:20 PM

More useless president than Carter, more corrupt than Nixon. Obama’s legacy is set in stone!! History will only make this worse!

Deano1952 on May 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

This is the right question.

kunegetikos on May 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I can hardly type about this anymore. I just keep shaking my head back and forth…

I hate the media, the IRS and all bureaucrats.

Fallon on May 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

So when will Geitner (little boy tax wonder) testify about what he knew and when? Mr. Kelly is absolutely right, nothing is more disturbing than getting a letter from the tax man.

scalleywag on May 17, 2013 at 5:34 PM

What kind of dumba$$ thinks he can do this and suffer no consequences? Anyone in the Obama administration, apparently.

scalleywag on May 17, 2013 at 5:38 PM

that the man is an abomination – easily one of the most financially reckless, viciously partisan, damaging, dangerous, divisive and downright un-American presidents of all time, with a toxic, corrupt, bullying, incompetent, sleazy and mendacious administration to match.

laffs,,,RWM your the tops,,,and you find such gems as this one…
you have a lovely mind RWM…and if the rest of you havent read
her blog today…its yet another fine work…

going2mars on May 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM

If y’all want to get really depressed, read the commentary at the NYT link. The Low-IQ Democrats there are actively cheering the IRS spying on Americans.

Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2013 at 6:02 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/17/NYT-Obama-Admin-Aware-of-IRS-Scandal-6-Months-before-Election

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 4:25 PM

They actually knew about it before it started, because they planned and implemented the criminal activity in the first place.

They will not be able to keep containment on these scandals now.

dogsoldier on May 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

You’re right, as usual.

ORconservative on May 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Obama IRS Asked Tea Party Groups For Back-End Access to Their Websites

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 4:37 PM

:) And when you think that today NYT editorial piece ‘Scandal machine’ is suggesting that this whole IRS scandal is a nothingburger and in reality (quote for comedic gold purposes) ‘the Internal Revenue Service, according to an inspector general’s report, was not reacting to political pressure or ideology when it singled out conservative groups for special scrutiny in evaluating requests for tax exemptions. It acted inappropriately because employees couldn’t understand inadequate guidelines. ‘

jimver on May 17, 2013 at 6:18 PM

I can’t help but thinking the day that Obama invoked God to bless Planned Parenthood was the day that he invited judgment upon himself and his administration. It seems things starting going south for this administration after that point in time.

iceman1960 on May 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Good point

gophergirl on May 17, 2013 at 6:23 PM

jimver on May 17, 2013 at 6:18 PM
because the bank didnt post “adequate guidelines’
i robbed it….????

going2mars on May 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

re:

verbaluce . . ad nauseum . .

He who argues with a fool (tool?) is an even greater fool.

barton on May 17, 2013 at 6:34 PM

barton on May 17, 2013 at 6:34 PM

And he who inserts himself into a fight between fools is the biggest fool of the three.

LegendHasIt on May 17, 2013 at 7:01 PM

This has been a good couple of weeks.

I don’t what’s Beene more fun, watching the progressive view of government crumble under the corruption innate in the Democrat Party, or the hilarious antics of those trying to bail a ship that’s taking on water faster than they can bail.

Anyway, lets wave goodbye to the laughable stooges known as progressives. Bye, bye.

itsspideyman on May 17, 2013 at 9:49 PM

My OPINION:

They kept it quiet because it was actually expanded into a DNC or OFA opposition research operation operating under “color of law” using the IRS and if that came out, it would damage more than just Obama, it would damage the entire Democratic Party.

My guess is that a copy of the data that IRS office was collecting was being sent to the DNC or to OFA. This was likely being directed from outside of the IRS/Treasury but with the knowledge of the bureaucrats. In other words, it was a political operation covered by senior administration people. That would explain why nobody seems to know anything about it. If it actually becomes exposed, they are in huge trouble and the Democratic Party might be thrown out of office en mass at all levels of government.

crosspatch on May 17, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Everyone admits that the events happened, but nobody knows where the orders came from to do it. Nobody knows who drew up the questionnaires, nobody knows who supplied the detailed lists of additional information that was required, nobody knows anything at all except they were doing it.

Three senior IRS people lied to Congress after they knew about it, after they knew the IG was investigating and apparently after they knew Treasury knew.

The administration claims to know nothing about it nearly a year after Treasury was notified. Nobody knows anything. That is because this wasn’t some rogue underlings. There’s a greater darkness here.

crosspatch on May 17, 2013 at 10:41 PM

How about this as a compromise? Suspend all left-wing tax-exempt status until those organizations complete comparable paperwork.

For example, OFA should be required to submit a list of everyone they have contacted or will contact in the future, under penalty of perjury. Plus, if they have any web pages that are accessible only to members or employees, copies of those pages need to be submitted and made part of the public record.

Failure to comply means that tax-exempt status will be retroactively revoked, and every single person that deducted a donation on their taxes WILL be audited.

Sound fair?

malclave on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 PM

I’m a bit disappointed that the Congress decided to do a hearing so quickly. I would have wanted them to do a little more investigation and get the lower level employees they are blaming under oath and ask them specifically who told them to conduct the audits this way. How did the questionnaires come about? Who decided on follow-on questions?

I don’t believe that they would ask any progressive groups what the content of their prayers were.

crosspatch on May 17, 2013 at 11:38 PM

I can’t help but thinking the day that Obama invoked God to bless Planned Parenthood was the day that he invited judgment upon himself and his administration. It seems things starting going south for this administration after that point in time.

iceman1960 on May 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Good point

gophergirl on May 17, 2013 at 6:23 PM

God is very polite; He generally waits for an invitation, and always responds.

PP speech 4/26/13.

Washington’s Ethics and Public Policy expert George Weigel skewered President Obama’s recent blessing of Planned Parenthood’s work as blasphemous on Wednesday and popular Calvinist theologian John Piper has tweeted in tacit agreement with the bold comment.

Weigel’s declaration came in a hotly discussed article published in First Things critiquing President Barack Obama’s address to the annual Planned Parenthood Gala at Washington’s Marriott Wardman Park Hotel on April 26 which he capped with: “Thank you, Planned Parenthood. God bless you …”

NRA celebrates defeat of federal gun control legislation 5/3/13 — “The measures, in a series of April votes, failed to get the 60 votes needed to advance in the 100-member Senate. ”

Benghazi whistleblowers give testimony to Congress 5/8/13 — after months of stonewalling by the administration.

Lois Lerner gives staged apology 5/10/13 — of course the acts in question had occurred since 2010, and the IG had started investigating in 2012, but this could have come out before 4/26, or much much later if at all.

DOJ admits to AP it lifted phone records of journalists 5/10/13 — happened in May & June 2012; no IG investigation that we know of, so what made them call foul on themselves?

Gosnell convicted 5/13/13 — after several years of investigation and legal challenges leading up to his trial.

In the scandal cases especially, almost every attempt at spin by the administration has been countered by a succeeding revelation.

Maybe God gave Andrew Breitbart an assignment??

AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 12:02 AM

My OPINION:

They kept it quiet because it was actually expanded into a DNC or OFA opposition research operation operating under “color of law” using the IRS and if that came out, it would damage more than just Obama, it would damage the entire Democratic Party.

My guess is that a copy of the data that IRS office was collecting was being sent to the DNC or to OFA. This was likely being directed from outside of the IRS/Treasury but with the knowledge of the bureaucrats. In other words, it was a political operation covered by senior administration people. That would explain why nobody seems to know anything about it. If it actually becomes exposed, they are in huge trouble and the Democratic Party might be thrown out of office en mass at all levels of government.

crosspatch on May 17, 2013 at 10:36 PM

It will be interesting to see if this plays out.

AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 12:03 AM

I can’t help but thinking the day that Obama invoked God to bless Planned Parenthood was the day that he invited judgment upon himself and his administration. It seems things starting going south for this administration after that point in time.

iceman1960 on May 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Good point

gophergirl on May 17, 2013 at 6:23 PM

God is very polite; He generally waits for an invitation, and always responds.

PP speech 4/26/13.

Washington’s Ethics and Public Policy expert George Weigel skewered President Obama’s recent blessing of Planned Parenthood’s work as blasphemous on Wednesday and popular Calvinist theologian John Piper has tweeted in tacit agreement with the bold comment.

Weigel’s declaration came in a hotly discussed article published in First Things critiquing President Barack Obama’s address to the annual Planned Parenthood Gala at Washington’s Marriott Wardman Park Hotel on April 26 which he capped with: “Thank you, Planned Parenthood. God bless you …”

“http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-03/nra-celebrates-gun-control-defeat-senators-face-backlash.html”

NRA celebrates defeat of federal gun control legislation 5/3/13 — “The measures, in a series of April votes, failed to get the 60 votes needed to advance in the 100-member Senate. “

“http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/04/benghazi-names-whistleblower-witnesses-revealed/”

Benghazi whistleblowers give testimony to Congress 5/8/13 — after months of stonewalling by the administration.

“http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/348683/irs-adviser-admits-question-was-planted-kevin-williamson”

Lois Lerner gives staged apology 5/10/13 — of course the acts in question had occurred since 2010, and the IG had started investigating in 2012, but this could have come out before 4/26, or much much later if at all.

“http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/05/13/friday-doj-told-ap-it-obtained-two-months-its-april-may-2012-phone-recor”>

DOJ admits to AP it lifted phone records of journalists 5/10/13– happened in May & June 2012; no IG investigation that we know of, so what made them call foul on themselves?

“http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/13/18232657-abortion-doctor-kermit-gosnell-convicted-of-first-degree-murder?lite”

Gosnell convicted 5/13/13– after several years of investigation and legal challenges leading up to his trial.

“http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2013/05/second-appeals-court-invalidates-obamas-nlrb-recess-164150.html?hp=l9″

Another court disagrees with Obama’s definition of Congressional Recess 5/16/12

“http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/17/homeland-security-guidelines-advise-deference-to-pro-sharia-muslim-supremacists/”
Dated 5/17/12 — But we already knew this, didn’t we?

The Department of Homeland Security, which under Secretary Janet Napolitano has shown a keen interest in monitoring and warning about outspoken conservatives, takes a very different approach in monitoring political Islamists, according to a 2011 memo on protecting the free speech rights of pro-Shariah Muslim supremacists.

In a checklist obtained by The Daily Caller entitled “Countering Violent Extremism Dos and Don’ts” the DHS’s Office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties notifies local and national law enforcement officials that it is Obama administration policy to consider specifically Islamic criticism of the American system of government legitimate.

This policy stands in stark contrast to the DHS Office of Intelligence and Analysis’ 2009 memo “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” [pdf], which warned of the dangers posed by pro-life advocates, critics of same-sex marriage and groups concerned with abiding by the U.S. Constitution, among others.

The advice of the Dos and Don’ts list is far more conciliatory. “Don’t use training that equates radical thought, religious expression, freedom to protest, or other constitutionally-protected activity, including disliking the U.S. government without being violent,” the manual’s authors write in a section on training being “sensitive to constitutional values.”

In the scandal cases especially, almost every attempt at spin by the administration has been countered by a succeeding revelation.

Maybe God gave Andrew Breitbart an assignment??

AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Another time warp on a different thread??

I can’t help but thinking the day that Obama invoked God to bless Planned Parenthood was the day that he invited judgment upon himself and his administration. It seems things starting going south for this administration after that point in time.

iceman1960 on May 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Good point

gophergirl on May 17, 2013 at 6:19 PM

AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 1:28 AM

God is very polite; He generally waits for an invitation, and always responds.

AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Absolutely. I, too, have noticed how O and crew seem to be facing an interesting ‘string of bad luck’ lately. Today I commented to a friend that perhaps we were seeing a bit of Divine intervention, because what are the odds that the woman, Ingram, who ran the IRS department during most of the targeting, is now in charge of the division overseeing the AFC? As a result, we will have more ‘ammo’ for eliminating OCare altogether – as no one will trust the IRS (and particularly her) to enforce it without legal and ethical improprieties.

We are witnessing the house of cards fall; the dominoes are beginning to cascade. The implosion has begun. None too soon.

Opinionator on May 18, 2013 at 2:06 AM

AFC ACA

Opinionator on May 18, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Opinionator on May 18, 2013 at 3:28 AM

Obama personally investigated all of these scandals last night.

And it’s all fine now.

Go about your business.

profitsbeard on May 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM

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