Scarborough on IRS scandal: This makes it harder to trust the government on gun background checks, doesn’t it?

posted at 11:21 am on May 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

An instant classic via NRO. If you’re tempted to pat him on the back for this sharp lurch back towards skepticism of government, consider two things. One: I don’t think he’s changed his mind on background checks, the IRS’s malfeasance notwithstanding. His complaint appears to be more rhetorical than substantive — i.e., it’s unfortunate that it’s suddenly become harder to convince people to give government more power over guns, because government really should have that power. Maybe I’m misunderstanding him but I doubt it. Two: Why did he need a (pardon the pun) smoking gun of federal wrongdoing to remind him that a national gun registry isn’t such a nutty thing to worry about? This guy was a member of the Republican class of ’94. He should know in his bones, without needing sporadic reminders, that abuses like the IRS’s are possible. Just last month, Missouri’s state government got caught leaking a list of concealed-carry permit holders to the feds. At least one Democrat in Congress freely admits that she’d support a national registry. Twice in the past six months, major publications have posted the names of local gun owners as an intimidation tactic. There’s every reason to worry about federal employees abusing personal information related to gun ownership given the ferocity of liberal opposition to gun rights. Why did Scarborough need the IRS to crap the bed to remind him of it?

I can only assume he’s become a bit more sanguine about government because Obama’s first term lacked the sort of scandals that are blowing up on him now, but that misses the point. Ultimately the IRS scandal isn’t an “Obama scandal,” it’s a “big government scandal.” Things like this are destined to happen sooner or later because, perversely, his pal Axelrod is right: The bigger government gets, the less oversight and accountability there is. And since we know which side of the political spectrum is most likely to populate the ranks of careerist public employees, conservatives should have special worries about being unfairly targeted. Go figure that they’re not keen on expanding gun control, or on ObamaCare.


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Ultimately the IRS scandal isn’t an “Obama scandal,” it’s a “big government scandal.”

EXACTLY!!

Tar Heel Sooner on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Hello, Mcfly

cmsinaz on May 17, 2013 at 11:19 AM

slow wick.

phatfawzi on May 17, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Size doesn’t matter, this is a scandal plain and simple and will change the lexicon. Watergate is old news.

meci on May 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Scarborough on IRS scandal: This makes it harder to trust the government on gun background checks, doesn’t it?

Wow, Sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow Joe.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Elevator doesn’t quite reach the penthouse, eh, Joe?

John the Libertarian on May 17, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Wonder who trusts the government to handle anything? Especially under bho/team!
L

letget on May 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM

ranks of careerist public employees, conservatives should have special worries about being unfairly targeted. Go figure that they’re not keen on expanding gun control, or on ObamaCare.

Exactly. Sarah Hall Ingram’s organization acted on Obama’s motto of “We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends”. She got bonuses, raise, and a promotion to run Obamacare.

I’ve seen extreme leftists on Twitter say that the one thing the left and right agree on is that we all hate the IRS.

It’s time to repeal the 16th amendment, abolish the IRS, and implement the Fair Tax. I know it won’t happen in the 113th Congress, nor the 114th Congress, but if enough conservatives win in 2014 and 2016, we could do this in the 115th Congress.

ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Wait. So Mika is the Dumb one?

oldroy on May 17, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Why did Scarborough need the IRS to crap the bed to remind him of it?

AP at his best right thar..

hillsoftx on May 17, 2013 at 11:26 AM

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:32 AM

The bigger the government, the smaller the freedom.

I’d like to see the GOP stand for RESTORING FREEDOM.

ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Obama’s first term lacked the sort of scandals that are blowing up on him now, but that misses the point. – AP

Only because of the lapdog media (guy’s like Joe just lovin’ on him) not doing their job. The first term had the SAME scandals as now…just had to wait to get that 2nd term…dammit.

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Uh huh. Just keep saying it’s devastating for this week. It will be gone soon enough. The GOP will screw this up. Obama will walk away with the support he’s always had from the electorate.

If the nation wasn’t convinced that Obama should have been replaced in 2012, what difference do any of these “scandals” make?

All these scandals have done is make people already mad about Obama even madder. The mainstream press will move on from this very soon. And we’ll be stuck gnashing our teeth again while our pathetic GOP cries in the corner sniffling about “jobs”.

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM

John McClain, “Welcome to the party, pal!”

Meople on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM

As a commenter at “The Corner” notes, Joe still doesn’t quite get it. The Second Amendment, like all of the Bill of Rights, limit government, not its citizens. The government cannot intrude on or limit our individual rights.

onlineanalyst on May 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM

I’d like to see the GOP stand for RESTORING FREEDOM.

ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM

But, but… jobs. Certainly just talking endlessly about “jobs” wins elections, right?

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Mika offering up her brilliant analysis as usual.

jdpaz on May 17, 2013 at 11:30 AM

I’ve never trusted government. If I weren’t married with children I would refuse to comply with Obamacare’s IRS reporting and risk jail time doing so.

John Roberts needs to be strung up for what havoc he allowed to pass.

Charlemagne on May 17, 2013 at 11:30 AM

The government cannot intrude on or limit our individual rights.

onlineanalyst on May 17, 2013 at 11:29 AM

LOL.

Our only absolute individual right is the absolute right to abortion.

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:31 AM

What part of “trust the government” don’t they get is an oxymoron>

ProfShadow on May 17, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Things like this are destined to happen sooner or later because, perversely, his pal Axelrod is right: The bigger government gets, the less oversight and accountability there is.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:32 AM

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM

unfortunately, you are probably right. But I have to bitterly cling to the hope that somehow, the Marxist Tyranny will stop.

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Stop congratulating Morning J-O.

He’s essentially taking Axelrod’s talking point and using it. “The Government is so big, Obama can’t control it.”

portlandon on May 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM

And health care – don’t forget about health care you doofus.

gophergirl on May 17, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Everyday, the headlines re-affirm Reagans’ approach was correct.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Interesting, I was trying to link to an article wherein Mark Steyn discusses the s*cession issue and HA wouldn’t post it.

Wow, even Mark Steyn, reported on RCP and the Daily Caller, can’t be referenced here because of the S word?

Charlemagne on May 17, 2013 at 11:36 AM

This makes it harder to believe Justice on the Black Panther issue. And Fast & Furious. And the IRS on Obamacare. And whether or not the influence from these and other federal agencies actually undermined what was supposed to be free and fair elections that took place last November.

Hugo Chavez would’ve been envious.

BKeyser on May 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM

unfortunately, you are probably right. But I have to bitterly cling to the hope that somehow, the Marxist Tyranny will stop.

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:32 AM

I used to hope for that too. I’ve moved on. Work hard, make some money, do what you can to keep it away from the IRS… Best way is to create a company called “Green Solar Solutions” or some such. Then move to a gated community and watch the rest of the country crumble.

The USA is over. But you can still have a fine life for you and your family.

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Anyone doubt that a gun registry would be hard linked to the Obamacare/IRS Apparat?

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM

“You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”

Is that new around here?

Oil Can on May 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM

More confusing sophism from Tokyo Joe.

The entire premise under-girding our Second Amendment is a general mistrust for government. It was included in the Bill of Rights to protect all our liberties.

So no, village idiot, one who believes in the Second Amendment and the entirety of our Constitution does not trust the government on “gun control”. By definition it does not merit our trust.

Marcus Traianus on May 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Joe’s flash to bang interval is quite long.

a capella on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Intellectual Muzzle Loader.

oldroy on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM

This makes it harder to believe Justice on the Black Panther issue. And Fast & Furious. And the IRS on Obamacare. And whether or not the influence from these and other federal agencies actually undermined what was supposed to be free and fair elections that took place last November.

Hugo Chavez would’ve been envious.

BKeyser on May 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Yes. The presidential election of 2012 was stolen.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM

This makes it harder to trust the government on gun background checks, doesn’t it?

No it does not. There is no such thing as negative trust, and it is already at zero.

Fenris on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM

How did my comment get a timestamp 5 minutes before yours?

Let’s do the time warp again…

ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM

If you guys had any sense you’d be at a lottery ticket office with a smartphone.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Joe’s flash to bang interval is quite long.

a capella on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:32 AM

The bigger the government, the smaller the freedom.

I’d like to see the GOP stand for RESTORING FREEDOM.

ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM

How did my comment get a timestamp 5 minutes before yours?

Let’s do the time warp again…

ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Pelosi on Obamacare: It Will Cost More to Repeal It

Where can I donate to cover the cost?

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM

These problems have been festering for a while, way back before the 2012 election. Some people are just beginning to wake up about the Big Government intrusion in their lives and its negative impact on their freedoms.

onlineanalyst on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM

The electorate is not waking up. Republicans are just madder than usual. Democrats are not realizing that Big Government intrusion in their lives is negative. Women are not realizing this. Minorities are not realizing this. If Democrats were capable of realizing such things then Detroit wouldn’t be what it is.

The thing about liberalism is once the relationship of the Daddy-state to the individual is secured it doesn’t go away.

There is no “awakening”. Save yourself.

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM

“Sorry, Mr. Citizen, your gun purchase has been denied. It seems you were once listed as a member of a local Tea Party group.”

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Well. It makes sense that if the IRS has and develops even more expertise at enforcing Obamacare, that they should enforce gun-control.

oldroy on May 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM

These time-travel comments are awesome!

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM

“Sorry, Mr. Citizen, your gun purchase has been denied. It seems you were once listed as a member of a local Tea Party group.”

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM

6 weeks ago? A joke, sarcasm, jab.

Today? Probably already occurring.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM

If the nation wasn’t convinced that Obama should have been replaced in 2012, what difference do any of these “scandals” make?

All these scandals have done is make people already mad about Obama even madder. The mainstream press will move on from this very soon. And we’ll be stuck gnashing our teeth again while our pathetic GOP cries in the corner sniffling about “jobs”.

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM

These problems have been festering for a while, way back before the 2012 election. Some people are just beginning to wake up about the Big Government intrusion in their lives and its negative impact on their freedoms.

Obysmal’s chickens are coming home to roost.

onlineanalyst on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Ya think, Genius? Is this guy an intellectual lightweight, or what? Glad you finally woke up, douchebag!

MPan on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM

No, I’ve gotten that before.

CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM

I quote you from the future!!!

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM

What a shame, we could go back to the days of back alley weapons deals.

Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Like in a back-alley in Benghazi?

oldroy on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM

What a shame, we could go back to the days of back alley weapons deals.

Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Obama’s first term lacked the sort of scandals that are blowing up on him now

No! He’s only being caught NOW!

GarandFan on May 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM

I remember very well, just a few years ago, whenever the libtards in the media made up a new phony baloney problem about the government’s response to Hurricane Katrina, the fault went straight to the top, with no excuses allowed. It was if W himself was on the scene throwing black people out of the rescue helicopters.

But now it’s “Hey, c’mon B.O. is just one guy, and the government is soooooooo big.”

The real difference is, the Katrina stuff was all fake, these crimes committed by the IRS are the work of evil and powerful socialists.

JackM on May 17, 2013 at 11:47 AM

“Sorry, Mr. Citizen, your gun purchase has been denied. It seems you were once listed as a member of a local Tea Party group.”

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Yeah, just wait for the IRS to get ahold of your medical records. Been feeling low? You’re depressed, no gun for you. Never admit to your doctor that you’ve been feeling low? In denial or else manic, no gun for you.

What, we haven’t repealed the Second Amendment.

rbj on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Why does Scarborough pretend to be against a National Gun Registry?

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:49 AM

“You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”

Is that new around here?

Oil Can on May 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM

No, I’ve gotten that before.

CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 11:53 AM

I took the Blue pill. How about you?

happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM

That right there should be the quote of the day

http: The bigger government gets, the less oversight and accountability there is. And since we know which side of the political spectrum is most likely to populate the ranks of careerist public employees, conservatives should have special worries about being unfairly targeted. Go figure that they’re not keen on expanding gun control, or on ObamaCare.

scalleywag on May 17, 2013 at 11:51 AM

heh, without the http: :)

scalleywag on May 17, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Obama’s first term lacked the sort of scandals that are blowing up on him now

These happened in his first term moron!

MPan on May 17, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Uh oh….we’re timewarping again.

“Sorry, Mr. Citizen, your gun purchase has been denied. It seems you were once listed as a member of a local Tea Party group.”

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM

6 weeks ago? A joke, sarcasm, jab.

Today? Probably already occurring.

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Report: IRS Deliberately Chose Not to Fess Up to Scandal Before Election

Um, and their defending that it wasn’t political?

Sure.

socalcon on May 17, 2013 at 11:57 AM

“You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”

Is that new around here?

Oil Can on May 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM

No, I’ve gotten that before.

CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Uh oh! You know what that means?! Your comment was sent to the IRS with your SS #!

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Uh oh….we’re timewarping again…

BobMbx on May 17, 2013 at 11:53 AM

I explained this in another thread. When the god-like Obama learns of something months after he hears about it, the cosmic balance of the universe must be maintained by a million tiny peons being heard before they speak.

Fenris on May 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM

This fool didn’t have the imagination to suspect that the government might act in the best interest of those in control of the government.

And just barely gets that now.

applebutter on May 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Joe’s flash to bang interval is quite long.

a capella on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Intellectual Muzzle Loader.

oldroy on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM

With wet powder.

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 12:01 PM

That is making the broad assumption that the government was ever trusted.

DAT60A3 on May 17, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Hey, mods, check the servers.

CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Some people are a couple of fries short of a Happy Meal. Others are a can short of a six-pack.

Joe is a couple of amendments short of a Constitution.

trigon on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Scarborough moved to MANHATTAN with his wife Susan; they have a child in school there. Scarborough gets paid good money to suck up to MSNBC brass, and spew the political propaganda he’s paid to spew; And certainly his spouse, Susan, hangs out with other Manhattan moms which, as usual, means “group-think.” One can’t live in Manhattan for long, and have a social life, if one isn’t liberal. Must be contentious going back home to P’cola though. They probably don’t go all that often.

Ergo, Scarborough knows who he needs to please, and he pleases them. He tries, like fat-ass Chris Christie to ride both sides of the fence, calling himself a “Republican,” while supporting Progressive policies.

mountainaires on May 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM

“Your gun purchase will be approved but approval will be revoked and your gun confiscated if you participate in a protest of Planned Parenthood or of any government actions or programs in the future. Thank you for your cooperation with the ATF going forward.”

TXUS on May 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Two: Why did he need a (pardon the pun) smoking gun of federal wrongdoing to remind him that a national gun registry isn’t such a nutty thing to worry about?

You can either question his intelligence, or his integrity. No other explanation

Just last month, Missouri’s state government got caught leaking a list of concealed-carry permit holders to the feds. At least one Democrat in Congress freely admits that she’d support a national registry. Twice in the past six months, major publications have posted the names of local gun owners as an intimidation tactic.

Applause

Ultimately the IRS scandal isn’t an “Obama scandal,” it’s a “big government scandal.” Things like this are destined to happen sooner or later because, perversely, his pal Axelrod is right: The bigger government gets, the less oversight and accountability there is.

There is Scarboy’s problem. To be credible he has to acknowledge the power structure of his utopia demands unaccountable powers. There is no guarantee these powers will not be exercised in gun control, or anything else.

There really is a guarantee, the Constitution, but to stand firm for the Constitution means the end of unaccountable powers.

Scarboy is like a dang crack head who feels bad about taking food out of the mouths of his kids, but cannot give up the almighty crack

Small man

entagor on May 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Joe who?

jnelchef on May 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Ultimately the IRS scandal isn’t an “Obama scandal,” it’s a “big government scandal.”

Which will be Barky’s defense – so knock it off.

If people believe the problem is big government is too hard to manage, Barky skates.

The LIVs don’t understand which party is the party of big government and which is not (though based on recent Republican standard bearers that is understandable) and don’t care.

Either this scandal is tied to Obama or no one will pay a price.

18-1 on May 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM

So Joe finally found a reason for skepticism about the intentions of this government?

Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

How did my comment get a timestamp 5 minutes before yours?

Let’s do the time warp again…

ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Care to go in halfsies on a Mega Millions ticket?

Maddie on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM

…Joe looks like he has something… on his hands!

KOOLAID2 on May 17, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Scarborough moved to MANHATTAN with his wife Susan; they have a child in school there. Scarborough gets paid good money to suck up to MSNBC brass, and spew the political propaganda he’s paid to spew; And certainly his spouse, Susan, hangs out with other Manhattan moms which, as usual, means “group-think.” One can’t live in Manhattan for long, and have a social life, if one isn’t liberal. Must be contentious going back home to P’cola though. They probably don’t go all that often.

Ergo, Scarborough knows who he needs to please, and he pleases them. He tries, like fat-ass Chris Christie to ride both sides of the fence, calling himself a “Republican,” while supporting Progressive policies.

mountainaires on May 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM

YES. Sadly there is a great job market for token-conservatives.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Y’all do realize that the probability that we might end up with Joe Biden as president is increasing daily, right?

Right?

Scheming evil bastard vs. doddering old fool. Hmm.

davisbr on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 PM

I am a man but….

I think Mika gives a bad image to women. She makes them look dumb and subservient. They always have men on Morning Benedict Arnold, I mean Morning Joe, and Mika always looks like the hostess who just coos and pets Joe and his male drinking buds…

William Eaton on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM

At some point, we need to realize that “conservative” is a misnomer for what we believe. When there is nothing left to conserve, it becomes time for replacement and restarting.

I believe we’re looking at that scenario right now. It’s time for the Nigel Ferguson of the USA to start speaking openly about leaving the union and starting over.

The USA is dead, folks. Right now all that is happening is that the vultures are living large on its corpse. But the maggots will come, and then the hard bitter bone.

JoseQuinones on May 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Y’all do realize that the probability that we might end up with Joe Biden as president is increasing daily, right?

Right?

Scheming evil bastard vs. doddering old fool. Hmm.

davisbr on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Easy…Crazy Joe…why?

(1) Easier to Manage
(2) He will run for a second term, thus putting him in direct conflict with other dems creating mass confusion.

William Eaton on May 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM

^ Oops, sorry – I meant the Nigel Farage. ^

JoseQuinones on May 17, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Scarborough.

(shakes head)

F*cking idiot.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 17, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Geeeze, Joe come lately, how about trusting the IRS with Obamacare and the death panels to these tin-horn dictators?

But most of all Joe, You of the watch dog class–it you hadn’t all been tail wagging for Obama and eager to become his guard dogs, maybe this would have never come about. But keep pretending to be objective now that his halo if rusting for all to see.

Don L on May 17, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Y’all do realize that the probability that we might end up with Joe Biden as president is increasing daily, right?

Right?

Scheming evil bastard vs. doddering old fool. Hmm.

davisbr on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Joe would be a better president than the REB. I’m not saying a good president, but a better president.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 12:51 PM

JoseQuinones on May 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Methinks that you’re frighteningly close to the big truth!

Don L on May 17, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Last paragraph, good point.

jake49 on May 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Remember what happened to “Plumber Joe”. Oh, that was an isolated incident! Conspiracy theory nonsense! An Ohio Child support official checked his record to see if he was a “deadbeat”. That official was a woman who supported and donated to Obama’s campaign.

This stuff happens all the time on the small scale, its human nature. Power corrupts. Thats why you limit government power. Anyone who trusts the US government now is an idiot.

Joe is just rambling on trying to look relevant.

oryguncon on May 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Joe slipped out of Mika’s panties for a few minutes.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Hilarity

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Why did Scarborough need the IRS to crap the bed to remind him of it?

At least he didn’t get the dead horse head in his bed like the Tea Party/Patriot 501c(3)(4) applicants.

Turtle317 on May 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Y’all do realize that the probability that we might end up with Joe Biden as president is increasing daily, right?

Right?

davisb

You do realize that is some serious wishful thinking, right? Nothing is going to happen to Obama. He’s going nowhere. Pretty much no one else is going to be affected either. These scandals will be old news by next week. Meanwhile, while everyone is being distracted from these scandals that will go nowhere, the amnesty gang in the house acting in secret to sell out the country came to an agreement yesterday, and pretty much no one knows about it.

xblade on May 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Y’all do realize that the probability that we might end up with Joe Biden as president is increasing daily, right?

Right?

davisb

You know, Joe’s been running his mouth how he and Obama are in the same meetings and he talks to Obama for 4 or 5 hours a day. Why wouldn’t he be tarred with the same brush? So that leaves us with President Boehner?

Mitoch55 on May 17, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Hey Scarby – there is trust in the government? To do what?

TerryW on May 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I can only assume he’s become a bit more sanguine about government because Obama’s first term lacked the sort of scandals that are blowing up on him now,

The left would really, really love to believe that, but we shouldn’t humor them. Fast and Furious was a first term scandal that is still not over. IRS, and Benghazi are both first term scandals that Obama and his propaganda team, the media, have desperately pushed back past the election, so they can hardly be dismissed as “second term” scandals.

but that misses the point. Ultimately the IRS scandal isn’t an “Obama scandal,” it’s a “big government scandal.”

It’s not just an Obama scandal, since it could just as easily be a scandal for any big government types. But let’s not forget that this “big government scandal” did, in fact, happen under Obama, and can hardly be dismissed as just a big government scandal.

Obama already won’t take responsibility for anything.

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Actually, the IRS revelations don’t make the government any less trustworthy, Joe. They merely expose and underline how very untrustworthy it has already become under Obama.

Not that a guy who resigned in disgrace rather than face the tough questions has any room to criticize anyone else, Joe.

Adjoran on May 17, 2013 at 5:47 PM

“You know, Joe’s been running his mouth how he and Obama are in the same meetings and he talks to Obama for 4 or 5 hours a day. Why wouldn’t he be tarred with the same brush? So that leaves us with President Boehner?”

The House of Representatives would have to impeach both of them, the Senate would have to convict them both. Now think Clinton, the House impeached and the Senate rejected the House’s indictment. Also think Nixon/Agnew, Biden steps down Obama appoints say Valerie Jarrett to VP and pardons Biden. President VJ pardons Barry. Then appoints Bill Ayers to VP.

jpmn on May 18, 2013 at 7:36 AM