Video: IRS commissioner not sure if it’s inappropriate to ask pro-life group about the content of … its prayers

posted at 4:41 pm on May 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Examiner and NRO, a few more credible, confidence-inspiring breadcrumbs from this morning’s Ways and Means hearing. It’s starting to make sense now why protesting Planned Parenthood might present a risk to your tax-exempt status, isn’t it?

The second clip is of Miller saying that he did indeed ask his underlings who was targeting conservative groups, and they told him, but now he can’t remember the answer. Really. The disdain this guy harbors for the proceedings is palpable, but that’s probably in his best interest: The more antagonistic he is, the more liberal support he’ll have when the administration inevitably tries to find a new job for him at the IRS after this blows over. In the meantime, Miller’s loss is Fred Armisen’s gain, assuming SNL even attempts to tackle O’s scandals this weekend. Given what the show’s come to, maybe it’s best that they didn’t.

By the way, did anyone ask Miller the threshold question of why the IRS chose to spend so much time on penny-ante tea-party groups instead of the gigantic conservative and liberals 501(c)(4) orgs that have real influence on elections? Here’s what the Cincinnati office considered a priority:

The AP reviewed 990 tax returns for nonprofit groups that were made publicly available and posted on both the Guidestar and the Foundation Center websites, searching between 2009 and 2011 under the terms “tea party,” ”patriot” and other terms frequently used by tea party groups. Several tea party groups also made their tax returns available to the AP. The returns detailed revenues and expenses for the groups, as well as other details. Donors’ identifies, however, are shielded from disclosure under federal tax code provisions.

Only 21 of the 93 groups reported annual gross receipts higher than $25,000 between 2009 and 2011, according to the AP review. The $25,000 figure is a threshold for the IRS because an organization’s financial strength and revenue sources are important factors in determining its tax-exempt status. Nonprofit groups reporting less than $25,000 a year are allowed to file a short-form, postcard tax return instead of a detailed filing — one indication of a low-budget operation.

The median income for all the groups was just $16,700 a year. That figure includes several tea party organizations that boasted million-dollar budgets and a cluster of others with more than $100,000 in annual revenues. The well-funded activist groups were led by the Georgia-based Tea Party Patriots Inc., the nation’s biggest tea party group, which started out with more than $700,000 in annual revenues in 2009 and grew to $20.2 million annually in 2012.

Radley Balko noted on Twitter this morning that the amounts being thrown around here tend to undercut the sacred liberal talking point that the tea-party movement is merely corporate astroturf bankrolled by the Koch brothers to advance plutocratic interests. Suggested new narrative: The “plutocratic astroturf” theory is true, it’s just that the Kochs are … really, really stingy towards their puppets.


Update (MKH): Chris Moody at Yahoo! News has a screen shot of the IRS’ line of questioning on prayer.


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Why would a government agency be concerned about the content of prayers? Are they suggesting that prayers carry any sort of weight?

Hmmmm….

CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

how many elections, possibly even the presidential, would have been different without team Obama’s suppression efforts.

rob verdi on May 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Stalinesque.

kingsjester on May 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM

By the way, did anyone ask Miller the threshold question of why the IRS chose to spend so much time on penny-ante tea-party groups instead of the gigantic conservative and liberals 501(c)(4) orgs that have real influence on elections?

Thank you. I have been emailing this question to news organizations and no one brings this up.

These were mom-and-pop groups that were being suppressed.

esr1951 on May 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Remember America? sigh.

Jackalope on May 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Video: IRS commissioner not sure if it’s inappropriate to ask pro-life group about the content of … its prayers

Oh, dear GOD, seriously?

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM

This guy is not even pretending to be contrite.

This is a thuggish capo, who made a deal with the devil, for full retirement benneis.

Split in a million pieces, Miller and your bosses, you politbureau thuggs of the world.

Leftards, you toads, you should all fight with us against tyranny like this, from any source, alas.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Atheists don’t pray. So, are they off the hook?

Or, are we headed for the concept of ‘thought crimes’?

Remember, now — this sits just fine with all our trolls and other liberals.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Why would a government agency be concerned about the content of prayers? Are they suggesting that prayers carry any sort of weight?

They simply need to know to which God the prayers are directed and that the petitions carry no negativity regarding the current WH admin. Words of praise, thanksgivings for and blessings on Barry probably do carry some sort of weight.

hawkeye54 on May 17, 2013 at 4:45 PM

What next, taping confessions?

SailorMark on May 17, 2013 at 4:45 PM

I wonder if the Department Of Jihad’s raid on Gibson Guitars was part 2 of the thuggery of Islamic Retribution Service ??

burrata on May 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM

I think it is long past the time for the House GOP to pass a bill eliminating the IRS and replacing it with a 10% Flat Tax…

… Pass it, and send it to the Senate and Obowma to chew on while they open the doors and invite anyone who the IRS targeted to come before the world and tell their story.

While people are testifying how the IRS acted like the Ghestapo, let Harry Reid and Obowma make the case why we have to keep the agency…

Seven Percent Solution on May 17, 2013 at 4:47 PM

In the meantime, Miller’s loss is Fred Armisen’s gain, assuming SNL even attempts to tackle O’s scandals this weekend.

I haven’t seen Elliot Gould in anything in a while. If someone in showbiz dares to make a movie about this, he could be cast as his doppelganger, Mr. Miller.

Doughboy on May 17, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Make sure you send this to all you know, lefties too.

Make sure you send this too.

Obama did for Nixon, the TEA party and against Obama’care’ more than anyone could have imagines.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Don’t gots no tahm heah ats da IRS KGB fo’ dat Foist Ammendmun’.

viking01 on May 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM

And, these are the same jackwagons who go on and on about the Separation of Church and State.

kingsjester on May 17, 2013 at 4:49 PM

I keep praying. And yet, DC keeps growing.

When, O Lord, will Liberty overcome Mammon…

JohnGalt23 on May 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

The content of my prayers, inter alia, was lately “Dear Lord, expose the evil this man and his is engaged in,” and I was apparently heard. No, seriously.

Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

As far as I’m concerned, the only acceptable outcome is this guy and his associates in orange jumpsuits.

CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Hey, if you are going to violate rights of free speech, right of freedom of assembly, right to address government… then freedom of religion is fair game, too!

Might as well just violate ALL of the 1st Amendment in one go… saves trouble that way.

ajacksonian on May 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

This pandora’s box is never going to be closed, and sholdn’t, ever.

Get rid of the IRS or it will eliminate you.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM

I keep praying. And yet, DC keeps growing.

When, O Lord, will Liberty overcome Mammon…

JohnGalt23 on May 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

someone praying called JohnGalt, I imagine you have thought about this a lot. (I am not being sarcastic, I think you really have thought about things a lot.)

rob verdi on May 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM

What next, taping confessions?

SailorMark on May 17, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Beating them out of Conservatives, and Conservatives only.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Lookie here

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM

They should have responded, “Psalm 109:8″. That would have been a great way to get denied tax exempt status and audited.

The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 4:52 PM

I keep praying. And yet, DC keeps growing.

When, O Lord, will Liberty overcome Mammon…

JohnGalt23 on May 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

someone praying called JohnGalt, I imagine you have thought about this a lot. (I am not being sarcastic, I think you really have thought about things a lot.)

rob verdi on May 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM

for the record, I am a happy Catholic who considers Ayn Rand one of the more astute writers of the 20th century.

rob verdi on May 17, 2013 at 4:52 PM

SO if you are on the phone with the IRS and are not getting anywhere, and ask to talk to their supervisor — you get an even bigger idiot on the phone.

Dasher on May 17, 2013 at 4:52 PM

This completely undercuts the understaffed/overworked argument.

If you have too much work to do, asking for tiny details like this just adds to your workload. Creating paperwork to go through is not a way to make yor staff kor efficient.

MayBee on May 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM

I want to see this jackass frogmarched into a federal court.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM

I suspect they went after small groups because they felt they had a better chance at getting away with it than if they targetted large groups with access to lawyers.

BadgerHawk on May 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM

I keep praying. And yet, DC keeps growing.

When, O Lord, will Liberty overcome Mammon…

JohnGalt23 on May 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

It will come in God’s time. The Almighty knows what He’s doing.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM

This news fits in perfectly with Obama’s repeatedly defining the First Amendment as protecting “freedom of worship” rather than the free expression of religion.

englishqueen01 on May 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Rep. Schock: … would that be an appropriate question to a 501(c)3 applicant? the contents of one’s prayers?

Miller: It pains me to say I can’t speak to that one either… Speaking outside this case that I don’t know anything about, it would surprise me that that question was asked.

And, of course, if the group had responded with a prayer along the lines of say, this:

“Alhamdu Lillahi Rabbil Aalameen Ar Rahamaanir Raheem Maaliki Yaomid Deen iyyaaka Na’budu Wa iyyaaka Nasta’een. Ihdina as-Siraat al-Mustaqeem Siraat al-Lazeena An-Amta Alaihim Ghairil Maghdhoobi Alaihim Walaa adh-Dhaalleen”

his answer would have been an immediate: “Utterly inappropriate! That agent is toast!”

de rigueur on May 17, 2013 at 4:55 PM

The most non-reported story is that the thugs intimidated the TEA party into silence after their success in 2010, right until after the election of Nov. 2012.

This is the story, along with “why was Stevens in Benghazi on the anniv. of 9/11?” — media, you fools, have you no professional curiosity left? Suffocate from consuming Obama’s shit, most all of you.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 4:55 PM

he looks like a Marxist

commodore on May 17, 2013 at 4:58 PM

The Tony Bennett look-alike makes a mockery of all government, the thuggish swine.

Obama owns him, in full.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 4:59 PM

What’s that saying..

Throw your money in the air and whatever God wants, he keeps.

The IRS certainly would want to know about that donation..
/

Electrongod on May 17, 2013 at 4:59 PM

I suspect they went after small groups because they felt they had a better chance at getting away with it than if they targetted large groups with access to lawyers.

Exactly. Same reason the IRS goes after small businesses, because its known the time and resources are not available to them to fight back effectively.

Not to mention, it does distract and tie up time and financial resources of these groups that could be spent on their objectives, and it’s hoped it shuts the weaker ones down.

hawkeye54 on May 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Sorry for the length, but there is no way to cut it without gutting the meaning and exquisite pointing out of hypocrisy…

Cast your minds back to the great PATRIOT Act freakout of 2001, during which Americans were reminded hourly that “dissent is the highest form of patriotism” and Benjamin Franklin’s famous line about liberty and safety seemed to have been emblazoned onto every last protest sign.

Back then, government overreach was distinctly uncouth. “If the events of September 11, 2001, have proven anything,” comedian Jon Stewart lamented, “it’s that the terrorists can attack us, but they can’t take away what makes us American — our freedom, our liberty, our civil rights.” He paused: “Only Attorney General John Ashcroft can do that.”

Ashcroft and the PATRIOT Act were widely disparaged by critics who warned of an imminent descent into tyranny. But one detail in particular was singled out for discussion: “Library patrons in Santa Cruz are seeing a new type of sign these days: a warning that records of the books they borrow may wind up in the hands of federal agents,” warned the San Francisco Chronicle. Why? Because, as Salon’s Christopher Dreher noted, “the USA PATRIOT Act gives the government broad new powers to seize library and bookstore records — and prevents librarians and booksellers from complaining.”

When interest in this provision exploded, the American Library Association put out a statement: “The American Library Association believes that freedom of expression is an inalienable human right, necessary to self-government, vital to the resistance of oppression, and crucial to the cause of justice, and further, that the principles of freedom of expression should be applied by libraries and librarians throughout the world.”

The American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression (ABFFE) joined in, complaining that the Act was “an open door for government to browse into our records.” Leaping into action, the ACLU ran an entire fundraising drive on this issue, adding that now “your medical records, records and lists of individuals who belong to political organizations are also fair game for the government to seize.” And, when the FBI first used the PATRIOT Act in 2005 to get information from a library, the New York Times covered the story in detail.

Opposing the Act in Congress, Senator Russ Feingold (D., Wis.) contended that the measure would keep “records of what books someone has taken out of the library.” After it passed overwhelmingly, Vermont’s independent senator, Bernie Sanders, sought to repeal the provision. This was the first change to the Act to be proposed in the Senate. And one Senator Barack Obama, contributing to the reauthorization debate in 2006, characterized the law as having “powers it didn’t need to invade our privacy without cause or suspicion.”

None of this is to say that these groups were wrong. America was swept up in reaction after a despicable act of terror and, in such times, dissenting voices are imperative. As with all government, the Department of Homeland Security posits a potential threat to liberty and its implications must be discussed. Moreover, the PATRIOT Act is problematic and many conservatives are unfortunately blind to some of those problems. But it is peculiar how selectively government departments are called on their potency. Where are the reformers and the dissidents now that the IRS has been caught playing games with its considerable power? Is it still beyond the pale to suggest that the problem lies at the very root of the income tax itself? Discussing the work of the IRS, Politico reports:

The Internal Revenue Service asked tea party groups to see donor rolls.

It asked for printouts of Facebook posts.

What else? Oh, yes:

And it asked what books people were reading.

As a matter of fundamental principle, I fail to understand why people putatively concerned with privacy are so comfortable with having to report to the government the details of everything they earn — and to explain how they earned it, from whom, where, and when — but so terrified at the prospect of the state’s discovering that they’ve been reading Dan Brown.

Certainly, the requirement that certain “social welfare” groups justify their eligibility if they intend to take advantage of exemptions from the tax code is a reasonable one. Moreover, to have an income tax is inevitably to have an IRS. But, given this, what explains the comfort with the income tax in the first place? Why is the IRS less worrying to the Left than is the DHS?

Especially in light of this abuse, why is the ACLU not calling for the creation of a tax system that does not require individuals casually to share so much private information with the state? If national-security concerns, as Feingold insisted, cannot trump privacy, then why can the state’s economic convenience?

Both the IRS and the DHS may ask pretty much whatever they please, and both may conduct capricious and invasive investigations without too much in the way of probable cause or oversight. But if anything, the IRS is considerably the more intrusive of the two — and it is set to become even more so as Obamacare wraps its ugly tentacles around us all. As a matter of course, I am required annually to hand over a great deal of my personal information to the state, not because I have done anything wrong but as a condition of my existing and earning a living. Contrarily, I will likely come into the DHS’s purview only if I do something wrong, if they target the wrong person, or if the security services cast too wide a net. When they next expire in 2015, the more worrying components of the PATRIOT Act should certainly be revisited and expunged. But, while they should not be on the statute books, it remains true that these components have almost never been used. The IRS, meanwhile, abuses its power daily. Where is the conniption?

It’s not just books. USA Today reports that the IRS asked the tea-party groups for the “names of donors,” for “a list of all issues that are important to the organization” (along with the organization’s “position regarding such issues”), for records of conversations members had, and for information as to whether members had any intention of running for public office. As my colleague Andrew Stiles recorded yesterday, the IRS even went so far as to instruct a teacher within a conservative educational group to “to identify the students I’m teaching and what I’m teaching them.”

Vigilance, we are told, is the eternal price of liberty. Without doubt, our overzealous security regime deserves our attention. Still, while we’re at it, we might stop ignoring the monster in our midst.

By Charles CW Cooke

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

And, these are the same jackwagons who go on and on about the Separation of Church and State.

kingsjester on May 17, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Winner!

Stoic Patriot on May 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM

What has not been learned, yet.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Doug Hagmann has a point.

As the details of Benghazi are beginning to emerge from “whistleblowers” and the murderous events are being rightfully elevated to the proper realm of criminal conspiracy, other scandals have suddenly seemed to erupt, almost as if cued by a complicit choreographer. Most egregious misdeeds of the Internal Revenue Service, for example, that allegedly targeted Conservative groups, from 501(c)3 organizations to any group with Tea party or Constitution in their names, were suddenly “revealed.”

Other scandals of lesser significance, but nonetheless poking at the embers of public ire and intolerance are popping up as well. Watching the people who are reading the multiple news headlines on various news aggregator sites are like watching spectators at Wimbledon, as their heads move from side to side as they follow the ball in play. The white noise of new problems are constantly erupting, resulting in a feeding frenzy in the waters surrounding the Executive branch.

While fascinating to watch, has anyone stopped to consider that the process of chumming the waters with a flurry of cascading news events, combined with a docu-dump of 100 pages of Benghazi e-mails is actually a methodically orchestrated diversion? What is it we are not supposed to be seeing amid the white noise of new controversies of varying values? Are we being told that we’re aboard the Queen Mary and being directed to look over the port side at the antics of the sharks attracted by the chumming of the waters while we’re actually aboard the RMS Lusitania sailing through the Irish Channel on the afternoon of May 7, 1915? Meanwhile, a torpedo fired from a German U-boat is traveling directly for our starboard side, and is about to take the entire ship down.

Like a levy that has been suspiciously breached, the informational flood created by these news events is without recent precedent. The timing of this flood is of particularly critical importance. The headlines are diverting our attention away from a critical window of investigative value relating to Benghazi. Could it be that we’re seeing a form of force majeure being implemented to overwhelm and distract us from something far more important to truth seekers and consequently, much more lethal to Obama’s second term? Perhaps the Cloward-Piven strategy adapted and modified for the modern news cycles of today?

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 5:03 PM

he looks like a Marxist

commodore on May 17, 2013 at 4:58 PM

He doesn’t, but Obama looks like the result of sex btw. Lenin and Mussolini.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

~Just kicks back quietly while sipping Arizona Green Tea with honey and ginseng, watching you kick liberal azz without even trying~

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM

I guess we know that there aren’t any atheists in the IRS. Why would they care who is praying what if it doesn’t do anyone any good.

in fact, they must all be good believing Christians. Otherwise they could just as well ask, “Which voodoo dolls do you stick pins in or where is your coven located?”

Lily on May 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM
Read that this morning and agree 100%. Since then I have learned that they don’t believe it is inappropriate to inquire into the contents of prayers as well. Incredible.

txmomof6 on May 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM

“We’re praying that all the conservatives burn in hell, why?”

-501 granted! Congrats!

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Good stuff on a Friday afternoon. TPers in the audience? By the way, this is a must see – Steve Martin imitates the press riding in a car with the Obama administration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_akwHYMdbsM

stout77 on May 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM

New Steyn…

The Autocrat Accountants

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 5:17 PM

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Occam’s Razor. Could just be some* of Obama’s chickens coming home to roost.

*and by no means all

de rigueur on May 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM

If one believes God lives in the Whitehouse praying to anyone else is of course suspect. Blasphemy and all.

petunia on May 17, 2013 at 5:19 PM

I can’t believe the Barky administration is going into the weekend so vulnerable with nothing on defense.
They got nothing.

Also, re: Miller. Luke Russert said on MSNBC that the guy was “just winging it”, recognizing that “he’s the fall guy”, and that he seems resigned to the fact.

aquaviva on May 17, 2013 at 5:20 PM

They lost Peggy

We are in the midst of the worst Washington scandal since Watergate. The reputation of the Obama White House has, among conservatives, gone from sketchy to sinister, and, among liberals, from unsatisfying to dangerous. No one likes what they’re seeing. The Justice Department assault on the Associated Press and the ugly politicization of the Internal Revenue Service have left the administration’s credibility deeply, probably irretrievably damaged. They don’t look jerky now, they look dirty. The patina of high-mindedness the president enjoyed is gone.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:21 PM

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 5:03 PM

No, there is room for difference of opinion on foreign policy.

But to have what is essentially private police force who can aritarily investigate every facet of an individual’s life.–`

petunia on May 17, 2013 at 5:22 PM

By the way, did anyone ask Miller the threshold question of why the IRS chose to spend so much time on penny-ante tea-party groups instead of the gigantic conservative and liberals 501(c)(4) orgs that have real influence on elections?

Because unlike what people in DC and NY think its the grassroots that have the real influence on elections. 2010 showed that. It didn’t matter how much money the liberals and GOPE spent in the 2010 elections the grassroots overwhelmed them. There is nothing more powerful then when the people take to the streets like they did after Obamacare was rammed down our throats. The IRS/Obama understood this and these efforts by the IRS was to tamp down that grassroots movement.

Ask martin luther king jr, Gahdi and king gorge about the power of a people motivated to oust a thug ruler or thug laws.

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Yeah you can trust your government…

Just ask about the fair treatment the Branch Davidians got from the AFT and FBI at Waco…

Just ask Sam and Vicki Weaver about the due process they got when the FBI snipers blew their heads off…

The IRS can ask you about what you pray about, who your friends are, who you donate to, and if you don’t agree, when it comes time for that life saving operation your daughter needs, they control the medical treatment so they may deny it.

So get your mind right BOY. Toe the line

Kuffar on May 17, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Thx, Liam. :-)

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Keyboard issues… Obama and his campaign really had a police force who could investigate and even could fine and imprison Americans, who have no recourse.

The story of the Obama administration could have been written by Kafka.

This IRS story is more than Benghazi… and we may or may not come to an agreement on that, but using taxing power and the threat of fines and jail and all that goes with it… that is long lasting that is Kafka like power.

This needs to bring this pretender down. Obama would never have won re-election if people knew the truth. If we only had a press.

petunia on May 17, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:21 PM

I think they lost a lot of the press. the press knows they have got down on their knees one too many times for Obama and they have lost all respe3ct by the american people. If they don’t turn on Obama during this scandal the American people might burn down the LA times.

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM

By the way, did anyone ask Miller the threshold question of why the IRS chose to spend so much time on penny-ante tea-party groups instead of the gigantic conservative and liberals 501(c)(4) orgs that have real influence on elections?

Just typical thugs. Bigger groups can afford lawyers. They are harder to push around. So the thugs focus on the most vulnerable, as thugs do.

There is no way to tell haw much these groups would have influenced the election. Some of them would surely have grown to significant size, and even the smaller would have played important roles in turning out the vote.

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Yeah, I’d like to know the content of Obozo’s prayers. I imagine they begin with Allahu Akbar.

BeachBum on May 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Nothing but a hitman for Democrats. Get him in front of a grand jury.

pat on May 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I don’t understand why anyone is confused about them going after the newer, smaller groups. It’s always a better idea to kill the pups before they get big enough to become a real danger…

fabrexe on May 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM

There is no way to tell haw much these groups would have influenced the election. Some of them would surely have grown to significant size, and even the smaller would have played important roles in turning out the vote.

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 5:28 PM

That’s the sad part. As much as Rombo didn’t exactly excite the conservative crowd he didn’t lose by much; the turnout from these myriad small TP groups might have made the difference.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM

I can’t help but thinking the day that Obama invoked God to bless Planned Parenthood was the day that he invited judgment upon himself and his administration. It seems things starting going south for this administration after that point in time.

iceman1960 on May 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

don’t understand why anyone is confused about them going after the newer, smaller groups. It’s always a better idea to kill the pups before they get big enough to become a real danger…

fabrexe on May 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM

yeap and just look at two elections in 2010 the grassroots were out in force and they won a landslide. in 2012 Mitt’s team scorned the grassroots in favor of the “big money” and lost a very winnable elections.

The real power is the little people not the big whales. The big whales do nothing but pay the salaries of the consultants.

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:35 PM

can’t help but thinking the day that Obama invoked God to bless Planned Parenthood was the day that he invited judgment upon himself and his administration. It seems things starting going south for this administration after that point in time.

iceman1960 on May 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

That and the gun control loss showed Obama was a toothless tiger. Can’t remember which happened first.

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Wonder this time where he’s gone
Wonder if his mind gonna to stay
Ain’t no sunshine when he’s gone
And this White House ain’t got no throne
Anytime his mind goes away.

And I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know,
I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know,
I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know,
I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know,
I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know,
I don’t know, I don’t know
,
Hey, I oughtta leave the stupid idiot alone
But ain’t no sunshine when his mind’s gone

J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 5:38 PM

He doesn’t, but Obama looks like the result of sex btw. Lenin and Mussolini.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:04 PM

I still think that fascist is still the most likely.

uncommon sense on May 17, 2013 at 5:39 PM

That’s the sad part. As much as Rombo didn’t exactly excite the conservative crowd he didn’t lose by much; the turnout from these myriad small TP groups might have made the difference.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM

after 2010 Obama understood 2012 would be a base election. he did everything he could to get his base to the polls and surpress the GOP’s base and like a little child Mitt’s team/gope went along with the MSM/dem talking point that their base was a problem and should be shunned in favor of the moderate vote. Obama played Mitt’s team like a fiddle and he used the fulll bullying power of the government to ensure those that didn’t fall for his BS were shut down.

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:39 PM

de rigueur on May 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Confess I don’t get the Occam’s Razor reference. What do you think is thew simplest theory?

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM

I think it is long past the time for the House GOP to pass a bill eliminating the IRS and replacing it with a 10% Flat Tax…..”
Seven Percent Solution on May 17, 2013 at 4:47 PM
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Indeed. I thought I was the only one…
If not now, when?

diogenes on May 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM

petunia,

So you think IRS is bigger than Benghazi?

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM

So the religious establishment clause and the 1st Amendment protections for freedom of religion doesn’t apply to the IRS?

If a church applied to the IRS for tax-exempt status, and the IRS required it to disclose what prayers were recited and which hymns were sung in their service before granting it, Commissioner Miller wouldn’t see anything illegal with that?

Socratease on May 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM

The IRS asking about Tea Party members’ prayers? Well, maybe the Constitution says that Congress can’t make laws prohibiting the free exercise of religion, but maybe the IRS can, since it didn’t exist when the Constitution was written…

If Mr. Miller really wants to know about Tea Partiers’ prayers, maybe he should ask God! But maybe God isn’t happy with Mr. Miller these days…

Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Yup. The evil genius of the POS handlers can’t be overstated. So for two years prior to the election they were working with the IRS to suppress Tea Party voter turnout.

I read somewhere that in 2012 the AA voter percentage turnout was much higher than non-AA while white turnout was down by 6-8 million.

Mission accomplished.

(Of course that does not excuse the stupidity of people who chose not to exercise their right to vote. They’re largely the reason we’re in this mess. Although voter fraud also played a big part, especially those districts where the POS got 150% of the voe without a single one for MR).

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Let’s not forget that tax-cheat Timmy Geitner was Treasury Secretary until January, 2013.

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 5:48 PM

So you think IRS is bigger than Benghazi?

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Bot s/b big, but the IRS is understood by every single tax payer.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:48 PM

The hog wants a bigger budget.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Expect to hear many variations of “I cannot recall” during these and subsequent hearings.

Keith_Indy on May 17, 2013 at 5:52 PM

The hog wants a bigger budget.

The hog should be roasted on a spit.

hawkeye54 on May 17, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Miller’s toupée is ridiculous.

Pork-Chop on May 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM

The evil genius of the POS handlers can’t be overstated. So for two years prior to the election they were working with the IRS to suppress Tea Party voter turnout.

That evil genius has been propelling the POS up the political ladder with foul deeds from the very beginning to get him where he is today. Thy hit platinum with the resources the IRS provides them.

hawkeye54 on May 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM

The lefties at the IRS were doing what they love best…aborting baby political groups before they could, you know, cause trouble.

txmomof6 on May 17, 2013 at 6:03 PM

hawkeye54 on May 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Agree.

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 6:03 PM

but maybe the IRS can, since it didn’t exist when the Constitution was written…

Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM

No, it cannot. Federal agencies are confined by the Constitution, too.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Miller’s toupée is ridiculous.

Pork-Chop on May 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Not to mention the fool under it.

viking01 on May 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM

de rigueur on May 17, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Confess I don’t get the Occam’s Razor reference. What do you think is thew simplest theory?

wyntre9 on May 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Occam’s Razor is the principle formulated by William of Ockham, 14th century, that states “Simplest explanations are the best.” Well, actually he said: “Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate– Entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily.”

saac Newton formulated it thus: “We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances.”

Fundamental principle of modern science (except for the global warmists/coolists/whoever): “When you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better.”

Simplest theory for the perfect scandal storm: They’re all overripe. The truth will out, and is overdue to come out on most of these. So it’s all coming out at the same time. Something like that.

Oh, and bad timing on the IRS “leak”– nothing to do with deflecting for the State Dept. Left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. Typical of a government that is, in the immortal words of David Axelrod, “too big.”

de rigueur on May 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Miller’s toupée is ridiculous.

Pork-Chop on May 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM

That is one sorry looking pelt, ain’t it.

About the only thing that could make it more unconvincing is a chin strap.

CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I can’t help but thinking the day that Obama invoked God to bless Planned Parenthood was the day that he invited judgment upon himself and his administration. It seems things starting going south for this administration after that point in time.

iceman1960 on May 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Good point

gophergirl on May 17, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Miller’s performance reminded me of shampoo bottle directions:

Rinse.
Lather.
Repeat.

But morphed in my brain to:

Tar.
Feather.
Repeat.

fred5678 on May 17, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Is there anyone at Slate or who reads Slate that doesnt see this carnival show in Washington for what it is? That show today with the IG and the acting IRS chief was such a charade. Even Charlie Rangel a sitting tax cheat got in on the act feinging indignation. Their plan of course is to have this little show, fire this Miller guy, and then say see its fixed you can give the IRS your personal health information and trust they will not do anything malevolent with it. ROFLMAO!!!!!

paulsur on May 17, 2013 at 7:10 PM

I’m sure it’s just me but anyone notice that every single time these libs testify before congress they always have that condescending “I need the shit slapped out of me” look?
Note the air of superiority but when questioned they “don’t remember” much.

arnold ziffel on May 17, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Yeah, I’d like to know the content of Obozo’s prayers. I imagine they begin with Allahu Akbar.

BeachBum on May 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Nope. He prays to Himself. In a mirror. Islam is just another convenient club to smash Western Civilization with.

The only Commandment the One believes in is “You shall have no other Gods before me” (the Third according to Exodus, the Seventh according to Deuteronomy).

Of course, in His case, He’s talking about Himself.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 17, 2013 at 9:45 PM

can’t help but thinking the day that Obama invoked God to bless Planned Parenthood was the day that he invited judgment upon himself and his administration. It seems things starting going south for this administration after that point in time.

iceman1960 on May 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

That and the gun control loss showed Obama was a toothless tiger. Can’t remember which happened first.

unseen on May 17, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Here’s a convenient summary of the ones I have read about so far; there may be more.

AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 1:26 AM

I don’t know what to think of Tingles.

It’s like the scene where John C. Reilly realizes that it was William Fichtner who saved his life when he got dragged over the side, snagged up in the fishing line.

“You can say what you want, but… I’m sure glad you know how to swim.
It’s all I can manage right now. I’ll work on it.”

Phone log from the studio NBC Producer: Someone get control of the guy running Matthew’s prompter!

papertiger on May 18, 2013 at 8:33 AM