Video: IRS scapegoats not exactly taking it lying down

posted at 8:01 am on May 16, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Last night, Barack Obama tried to take control of the narrative on one of the scandals that have rocked his administration by announcing that IRS Commissioner Steve Miller had resigned by request of Treasury Secretary Jack Lew.  As it turns out, Miller was leaving in a month anyway, but the outgoing IRS chief took the time to note that the wrongdoing was limited to two IRS employees in the Cincinnati office, who had already been “disciplined” — which directly contradicts the Inspector General’s report, which shows managerial involvement since March 2010 at least, and coordination between multiple offices and units.  The report also notes that at least 300 applications got improperly obstructed, and the number is likely much higher than that.

Fox 19 in Cincinnati reports that the number doubled yesterday evening to four IRS employees, and that they’re not terribly interested in martyrdom (via Twitchy):

FOX19 has exclusively learned that as many as four people may be the first Cincinnati Internal Revenue Service (IRS) employees to face disciplinary action, and possibly even criminal charges, for allegedly targeting Tea Party and Liberty groups applying for non-profit status.

On Wednesday, the IRS announced that it had pinpointed two employees at the agency’s Cincinnati office for being ‘primarily’ responsible. …

One of FOX19′s two sources went on say that these four IRS workers claim “they simply did what their bosses ordered.” FOX19 reported on Tuesday that the report by the Office of Inspector General states that senior IRS officials knew agents were targeting Tea Party groups as early as 2011.

In fact, according to that report, Lois Lerner, who heads the IRS division that oversees tax exempt organizations, was told on June 29, 2011 that groups with ‘Tea Party’, ‘Patriot’ or ’9/12 Project’ in their names were being flagged for additional, and often burdensome, scrutiny.

Did I say 300 organizations? According to the report, Reps. Jim Jordan and Darrell Issa now put that number closer to 500.  If it was just these four agents, they’d have to have been rather, er, productive.  Besides, if it was just four agents in one office, Lerner wouldn’t have spent two years trying to massage the process to make it look less partisan — she would have told the four to knock it off in 2011, and the IRS chief counsel would have insisted on it when notified in August 2011.

Why might Lerner have been motivated to let the harassment continue? Maybe the connections at her husband’s law firm might provide an answer:

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) official who apologized for targeting conservative nonprofit groups for extra scrutiny is married to an attorney whose firm hosted a voter registration organizing event for the 2012 Obama re-election campaign, praised President Obama’s policy work, and had one of its partners appointed by Obama to a key ambassadorship.

IRS Exempt Organizations Division director Lois G. Lerner, who has been described as “apolitical” in mainstream press coverage of the IRS scandal, is married to tax attorney Michael R. Miles, a partner at the law firm Sutherland Asbill & Brennan. The firm is based in Atlanta but has a number of offices including in Washington, D.C., where Miles works.

The 400-attorney firm hosted an organizing meeting at its Atlanta office for people interested in helping with voter registration for the Obama re-election campaign.

This is not the first of Lerner’s connections to the president to surface. Earlier this week The Daily Caller reported that Lerner personally signed the tax-exemption approval for a shady charity run by Obama’s half-brother, after an inexplicably brief one-month application process.

The reason Miller claimed that the two-maybe-four employees had already been disciplined was to head off potential criminal charges.  That step would get them talking about who ordered the targeting of conservative groups.  Two of the employees in that office — who may or may not be among that supposedly rogue group — will testify to Congress on Monday, and that may give us a more credible account than two IRS agents wreaking havoc for three years — with management aware of the problem for two of those years — without being reined in until after the election.


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Fox 19 in Cincinnati reports that the number doubled yesterday evening to four IRS employees,…

I am shocked..

Electrongod on May 16, 2013 at 8:04 AM

“fire the two immediately” – nonpartisan yesterday

“fire the next two immediately” – nonpartisan today

Electrongod on May 16, 2013 at 8:05 AM

will testify to Congress on Monday, and that may give us a more credible account than two IRS agents wreaking havoc for three years — with management aware of the problem for two of those years — without being reined in until after the election.

Obamacare is going to be a blast…

Electrongod on May 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Communists infiltrate, work diligently, make huge webs of interconnected connections, & are PATIENT.
They work tirelessly to destroy from within.
And they do whatever it takes including breaking the law.
When they’re caught, they scatter & blame & disappear & spin the propaganda machine.
All one has to do is read the history of the CPUSA in the early to mid-1900s & you will see all the parallels you need to.
And what happened then when the communists were found out?
Not much.
The high level communists continued to stay.
READ THE HISTORY.

Badger40 on May 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Obama is a disgrace. Disgusts me to look at the liar.

bluegill on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM

fire the two immediately” – nonpartisan yesterday

“fire the next two immediately” – nonpartisan today

-”fire an interim acting IRS director that was leaving in May”- nonpartisan tommorrow

Electrongod on May 16, 2013 at 8:05 AM

He’s a bold and fearless leader only concerned about the country.

acyl72 on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Obamacare is going to be a blast…

Electrongod on May 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM

If there was ever a time to enter an underground economy, this would be it.

Badger40 on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Its all good dear leader did nothing wrong here
-libs

cmsinaz on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM

One of FOX19′s two sources went on say that these four IRS workers claim “they simply did what their bosses ordered.” FOX19 reported on Tuesday that the report by the Office of Inspector General states that senior IRS officials knew agents were targeting Tea Party groups as early as 2011.

Show of hands of those surprised. Thought so.

There is no way a few rogue employees would be able to harass 500 conservative groups without higher-ups knowing about it. That doesn’t make them any less guilty because they also clearly knew what they were doing and did not call it to anybody’s attention. They are as innocent as the Nazis at the death camps that were just following orders and probably more so because the Nazis did not have the ability to call an IG hotline.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM

When IRS Scapegoats are Faced with CRIMINAL charges we will see a rare phenomenon. A reversal of Gravity. You’ll know it’s occurring when the sh!t starts rolling up hill!

Only through the threat of serious jail time will the plebes come clean and start the finger pointing process.

When the American Public has a chance to go after the IRS does O think we won’t bare our fangs and rip the Tax Gestappo to unrecognizable shreds?

Disband the IRS and Jail the O.

Plastik on May 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Is there some kind of Reverend Moon-type dating service that routinely marries government workers to liberal politicos and journalists? This liberal family tree is starting to look like a telephone pole.

Fallon on May 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM

I want to know what the 2 employees know. I want to know who told them to do this. Let’s see how high up the chain of command this goes.

Oil Can on May 16, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Two of the employees in that office — who may or may not be among that supposedly rogue group — will testify to Congress on Monday

That’s too much time. Are they at least in protective custody in a secret location. It’s best to get witnesses on record immediately when dealing with organized crime syndicates, but if they can’t, isolation is the next best thing.

forest on May 16, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Obama is a disgrace. Disgusts me to look at the liar.

bluegill on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM

That’s been true since 2008. I’ve always loathed the arrogance, bullying, and moral superiority of the rat-eared passerby.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Clear pattern of targeting opponents & lying about it…just like Gibson Guitars,Boeing, Coal fired Electric plants…extensive list

Obama seems to think that agencies under the executive are his personal gestapo…Democrats were likely fine with that until some of their constituents started complaining…

workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 8:14 AM

We need ONE low level employee with a spine and perhaps a desire to write a book, script a movie, make big bucks on talk show circuit, etc…if you know what I mean.

hillsoftx on May 16, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Bottom line, this is out of Obama and Hillary’s hands and should no way impact any elections going forward. In fact, are we sure that this is not the result of that evil Republican congress somehow?

Gatsu on May 16, 2013 at 8:16 AM

You’re gonna need a bigger boat more federal prisons…

workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 8:16 AM

They were just following orders…where have we heard that before?

right2bright on May 16, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Bottom line, this is out of Obama and Hillary’s hands and should no way impact any elections going forward. In fact, are we sure that this is not the result of that evil Republican congress somehow?

Gatsu on May 16, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Rush Limbaugh…It’s all his fault

workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM

DICTATOR!

Soft gloved at this point…

…..but he wants to be, and how many would hail him as “trying to save the Republic by abandoning it’??

PappyD61 on May 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM

We need ONE low level employee with a spine and perhaps a desire to write a book, script a movie, make big bucks on talk show circuit, etc…if you know what I mean.

hillsoftx on May 16, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Or one or two facing jail time for what their bosses did…nothing like a family having to watch their mother/father do the perp walk…

right2bright on May 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM

We need ONE low level employee with a spine and perhaps a desire to write a book, script a movie, make big bucks on talk show circuit, etc…if you know what I mean.

hillsoftx on May 16, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Yep, but that takes some guts. Progressives will try to destroy the witness by any mean necessary. Remember Helen Jones-Kelley?

forest on May 16, 2013 at 8:19 AM

If there was ever a time to enter an underground economy, this would be it.

Badger40 on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Heading down into the cave now

redguy on May 16, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Rush Limbaugh…It’s all his fault

workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM

My bad, forgot him and Bush/previous administration as well.

Its hard to keep it all straight when you have all these scandals in the air ya know??

Gatsu on May 16, 2013 at 8:22 AM

will testify to Congress on Monday,

A lot of time between now and Monday.

Cleombrotus on May 16, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Progressives will try to destroy the witness by any mean necessary. Remember Helen Jones-Kelley?

forest on May 16, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Yep, that low-level scapegoat had better have something more than an accusation if they are going to beat the rap of being a partisan diabolical mastermind. Paper trails will matter.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 8:23 AM

The high level communists continued to stay.
READ THE HISTORY.

Badger40 on May 16, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Their agenda was entered into the Congressional Record in 1963. You can actually go through this document and tick off where they have succeeded.

HotAirian on May 16, 2013 at 8:23 AM

The Imperial Presidents best units to control the people have initials like….

EPA

SEC

FCC

FTC

OSHA

DHS

HHS

DOJ

DOE

DOA

SCOTUS

NYT

LAT

WAPO

NBC

ABC

CBS

MSNBC

CNN

DOL

NLRB

DOC

TSA

………..these are the control soldiers. Ready to implement rules that fully take charge of people’s everyday lives.

PappyD61 on May 16, 2013 at 8:23 AM

forest on May 16, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Beat me to it. I wonder how many others thought the same thing.

Cleombrotus on May 16, 2013 at 8:25 AM

So, are these the FOUR who actually constructed those law-breaking forms and questionnaires required of TP, patriots, etc.??
Doesn’t sound like it, does it ?
Can’t wait to discover who created those.
Popcorn.

pambi on May 16, 2013 at 8:26 AM

They need to testify under oath, Be threatened with time in the big house and offered a bargain if they cough up who the higher ups were in the chain of command. Just keep working it that way right on up to the top.

iceman1960 on May 16, 2013 at 8:26 AM

When you start threatening the patsys with jail time they tend to not fit under the bus so well.

NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 8:28 AM

The IRS needs to be abolished. Even though these low level drones were just following orders, the problem is, they followed the orders and probably relished every minute of it. When you give average paper pushers that much power, they start to enjoy it. No way should they have the added power they will get when they start to run Obamacare.

BeachBum on May 16, 2013 at 8:28 AM

One of FOX19′s two sources went on say that these four IRS workers claim “they simply did what their bosses ordered.” FOX19 reported on Tuesday that the report by the Office of Inspector General states that senior IRS officials knew agents were targeting Tea Party groups as early as 2011.

I have repeatedly said that the political appointee running the various federal agencies can order their subordinates to carry out their will, like the DoL, BLS and the BEA, for example. This business at the IRS proves those assertions correct.

dogsoldier on May 16, 2013 at 8:28 AM

fire the two immediately” – nonpartisan yesterday

“fire the next two immediately” – nonpartisan today

-”fire an interim acting IRS director that was leaving in May”- nonpartisan tommorrow

Electrongod on May 16, 2013 at 8:05 AM

Good job channeling that idiot.

cozmo on May 16, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Conspiracy or merely syndrome?

If you know any Liberals then you know that they don’t need orders from higher ups; it’s how they all fly anyway. My bet is it’s simply another manifestation of the hive mentality at work that we can expect the more Liberals control the reins of power.

Cleombrotus on May 16, 2013 at 8:30 AM

pambi on May 16, 2013 at 8:26 AM

I have thought the same thing from the outset. Where are these forms? Are they on the official IRS website that can be downloaded? Who created these forms? I doubt it was some level peon. I’ve dealt with them and they don’t know their azzes from their elbows.

BeachBum on May 16, 2013 at 8:31 AM

If there was ever a time to enter an underground economy, this would be it.

Badger40 on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Well, the shadow economy is on the rise, that’s for sure. This is what inevitably happens when any government gets too big, too intrusive, and over-regulates. Leftists will never understand this because they’re economic illiterates. They don’t understand (or care) how the world actually works.

visions on May 16, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Look, a couple of low level employees can ask a lot of awfully stupid questions, but they can’t re-organize the IRS. Who established the Cincinati team? Who gave them their marching orders? Who did they report to? What did they say in those reports? Who saw those reports? What did they do when they saw those reports. If there is going to be a serious investigation someone is going to have to follow the chain of command to see where it leads. In private industry you “follow the money,” in government you also follow the chain of command.

Fred 2 on May 16, 2013 at 8:32 AM

I think this point has been made before but it bears reinforcing…

I spent the first few years of my career as a bank examiner working for the US Treasury. The idea that a few rogue employees did this doesn’t square with my experience. When you’re working in a bureaucracy at a certain level (as I did), your focus is on complying with the directives from higher up. You don’t just go do whatever you want, even if you think your political boss is going to like it. The reason is that while the political bosses come and go, the bureaucracy endures. Call it CYA, or call it “do what you’re told,” but the idea that a large and powerful agency just did this on its own is laughable to me.

Case in point…I was at OCC when new compliance directives were handed down to start getting more strict on banks for Community Reinvestment Act compliance. I was present in the boardroom when an EIC told a Board that if the bank didn’t start making riskier loans in “underserved” areas that the rating of the bank was in jeopardy (which would result in, among other things, higher FDIC insurance expenses, increased exam scrutiny, etc). The idea that bureaucrats just go off on their own crusades just doesn’t happen, again in my experience.

JohnTant on May 16, 2013 at 8:33 AM

fire the two immediately” – nonpartisan yesterday

“fire the next two immediately” – nonpartisan today

-”fire an interim acting IRS director that was leaving in May”- nonpartisan tommorrow

Electrongod on May 16, 2013 at 8:05 AM

‘I LIKE TURTLES!!’ – nonpartisan every waking moment.

BigWyo on May 16, 2013 at 8:33 AM

He’s a bold and fearless leader only concerned about the country.

acyl72 on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM

And don’t forget, his intentions are noble.

/troll

bigmacdaddy on May 16, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Gotta wonder what prizes these rogue employees were promised if they did get caught? Bigger bonus’, transfer to and even easier job,bundles of cash in 6 months?
No telling.
The ony thing we know is that lots of tea party groups were prevented from collecting any cash that could be used to unseat the dear leader.
The left is so far ahead of us politically its not even a contest. They even know how we will react to everything they do “if” they get caught. We need some politically astute people in the RNC/GOP if we want to ever win against this chicago commie thugocracy.

rodguy911 on May 16, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Electrongod on May 16, 2013 at 8:05 AM

Nonintelligent to tell us how this proves that Obama is being transparent like he promised.

NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Instapundit has a couple related flashbacks up:

ABUSE OF POWER: Flashback: President Obama Targeted Gibson Guitars, Boeing on Ideological Grounds.

OBAMA IN 2009: “Don’t think we’re not keeping score, brother.” So are we, Barry. So are we.

Plus this narrative error:

Applications for tax exemption from advocacy nonprofits had not yet spiked when the Internal Revenue Service began using what it admits was inappropriate scrutiny of conservative groups in 2010.

In fact, applications were declining, data show.

So:
- only two rogue employees is actually four,
- 300 applications is actually 500+, and
- applications rising is actually applications dropping.

Is there any truth in what this Administration’s says?

Dusty on May 16, 2013 at 8:36 AM

I was determined that we should get to the bottom of the matter, and that the truth should be fully brought out—no matter who was involved.

President Richard Milhous Nixon, April 30, 1973

kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM

If there is going to be a serious investigation someone is going to have to follow the chain of command to see where it leads. In private industry you “follow the money,” in government you also follow the chain of command.

Fred 2 on May 16, 2013 at 8:32 AM

If there is going to be a serious investigation, it will not be the one the administration is pushing headed up by Lew. Congress has an outside shot. But I also think that Congress should put the brakes on the IRS as enforcement agency for Obamacare because they have proven to be absolutely untrustworthy. What they did is as bad is if the Social Security Administration decided to provide the Dems with SSNs.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM

One of FOX19′s two sources went on say that these four IRS workers claim “they simply did what their bosses ordered.”

So they were only following orders . . .

Gene Hunt on May 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM

rodguy911 on May 16, 2013 at 8:34 AM

When you’re running corrupt operations in the United States government you compartmentalize and give only as much information as necessary.

“Listen, we’re scrutinizing potential terrorist organizations applying for tax exemption. We have another team looking at leftist terrorist front groups, you’ll be looking at conservative groups. Tell no one! We don’t want to alert these terrorists. And never forget your doing your country a great service.”

Why else segregate the applications? Those doing the application reviews did not select which applications to review.

NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Supoena the 4, give em immunity for testimony and get the popcorn buttered.

bloviator on May 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

It is really not fair that government employees are allowed to contribute to campaigns, but federal contractors are barred. The reasoning there is that federal contractors might vote with their cash for someone who will give them employment/contracts. But government employees are doing this to grow government and increase their own paychecks. This Lois character made more and more money under Obama while ordinary people found the economy shrinking. Her $170K salary plus bonuses kept coming. I think at work, government workers should be forbidden from discussing politics and not allowed to solicit or give money to the candidates. And the federal contractor rules should be applied to the Unions respecting whatever government their members are employed by. Just for Fairness.

Fleuries on May 16, 2013 at 8:43 AM

If the culprits are just two low level cubicle dwellers in the Cincinnati office, why would Comrade O “fire” the IRS Commissioner?

It is irrelevant that he didn’t really fire Miller. What matters is Dear Leader is saying he did and between him that is the reason.

How many layers of bureaucrats are between the IRS Commissioner and these two low level scapegoats in Cincinnati?

How many layers of bureaucrats are there between the Comrade O and the IRC Commissioner, and between him and whoever ordered the data mining of AP phone records, and between him and whoever gave the “stand down” order(s) in Benghazi, and so on and so forth.

If the IRC commissioner is being held accountable for these two low level IRS scapegoats, shouldn’t Comrade O be held accountable for the actions of Sebelius, who is shaking down private citizens to pay for an Obamacare “education” initiative, and for Rice’s lies to the American people about Benghazi?

farsighted on May 16, 2013 at 8:44 AM

President Richard Milhous Nixon, April 30, 1973

kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM

When does Obama fire the investigator? Considering how this administration operates it will probably be a Friday Night Massacre.

NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Dear Leader is saying he did and between him that is the reason.

farsighted on May 16, 2013 at 8:45 AM

NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 8:44 AM

This is not over, yet. Not by a long shot.

kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 8:46 AM

If the rogue employees are black look out.

docflash on May 16, 2013 at 8:46 AM

I was determined that we should get to the bottom of the matter, and that the truth should be fully brought out—no matter who was involved.

President Richard Milhous Nixon, April 30, 1973

kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Il Duce makes Nixon look like a quaint amateur from a bygone era…aided and abetted by a Crush Media who can’t stay off the crackpipe waiting for Barry to bestow super coolness factor on each so they can post the coolness on their twitter feeds.

We are as a nation locked at 8th grade.

workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 8:51 AM

This is not over, yet. Not by a long shot.

kingsjester on May 16, 2013 at 8:46 AM

You’re not getting my reference. Look up “Saturday Night Massacre”.

NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Rove noted this very salient angle today in the WSJ;

The abuse of power may not be confined to the IRS. It might also involve high-ranking Senate Democrats who pressured the IRS to conduct such witch hunts and threatened action if it didn’t.

In September 2010, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus wrote to IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman, requesting that the agency survey major nonprofits involved in political campaign activity for their possible “violation of tax laws.” In February 2012, Sens. Charles Schumer, Michael Bennet, Al Franken, Jeff Merkley, Jeanne Shaheen, Tom Udall and Sheldon Whitehouse wrote a similar letter to Mr. Shulman, and promised to introduce legislation if the IRS failed to “prevent abuse of the tax code by political groups.” In July 2012 and again in August, Sen. Carl Levin complained to the IRS about its apparent passivity.

This is going well beyond the IRS.

Marcus Traianus on May 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Is there some kind of Reverend Moon-type dating service that routinely marries government workers to liberal politicos and journalists? This liberal family tree is starting to look like a telephone pole.

Fallon on May 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Got an e-mail the other day showing the incest of our media.

CNN’s president – Virginia Moseley is married to Deputy secratary Tom Nides.

CBS president David Rhodes is brother of Top obama official Ben Rhodes

ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama special adviser Elizabeth Sherwood.

No confilict of interest here.

acyl72 on May 16, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Supoena the 4, give em immunity for testimony and get the popcorn buttered.

bloviator on May 16, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Screw the subpeonas. There is enough to indict and convict the Cincinnati Four. The question is if they so love the rat-eared coward and Democrat party they are willing to take the rap or if their attorneys will reach some sort of a plea bargain. But of course it is all moot because the DOJ is just as corrupt as the rest of the administration.

Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 8:57 AM

The way to get the peons to talk is to find out who they are and go after them online. Post their names and facebook pages, etc etc. and let all of America (well, the 50% that cares) pour their scorn out onto these liberal losers.

Free Indeed on May 16, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Bonuses…

“Lois Lerner, the senior executive in charge of the IRS tax exemption department and the federal employee at the center of the exploding scandal over the IRS targeting of conservative, evangelical and pro-Israel non-profits, was given $42,531 in bonuses between 2009 and 2011.

That figure was included in data provided by the IRS in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by The Washington Examiner. Lerner is director of the IRS exempt organizations division, which processes and approves or denies applications from groups seeking tax-exempt status.

Lerner received $17,220 for 2010, $14,691 for 2011 and $10,620 for 2012, the most recent year for which the IRS said data was available.

Her annual salary in 2009 and 2010 was $172,200, and $177,000 in 2011 and 2012. With the bonuses, Lerner was paid a total of $740,931 for the four-year period…”

http://washingtonexaminer.com/irs-exec-got-42k-in-bonuses-in-three-years/article/2529759

workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 8:58 AM

You’re not getting my reference. Look up “Saturday Night Massacre”.

NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 8:51 AM

I didn’t know kj was a youngster.

I was racking my brain the other day trying to remember the title of that cluster fark.

Kept coming up with Valentine’s day.

I don’t think 0bama is that dumb though.

cozmo on May 16, 2013 at 8:59 AM

“fire the two immediately” – nonpartisan yesterday

“fire the next two immediately” – nonpartisan today

Electrongod on May 16, 2013 at 8:05 AM

…so?…this one can pick up 4 more twitter followers?———–>

bluegill on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM

KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM

cozmo on May 16, 2013 at 8:59 AM

I was only 2 when that happened so not like I recall either. :P I just remembered learning he fired the special prosecutor and the wheels fell off the bus when he did.

NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Good, I hope they start producing documents signed by other people ordering all of this to occur.

Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 9:04 AM

It is really not fair that government employees are allowed to contribute to campaigns, but federal contractors are barred. The reasoning there is that federal contractors might vote with their cash for someone who will give them employment/contracts. But government employees are doing this to grow government and increase their own paychecks. This Lois character made more and more money under Obama while ordinary people found the economy shrinking. Her $170K salary plus bonuses kept coming. I think at work, government workers should be forbidden from discussing politics and not allowed to solicit or give money to the candidates. And the federal contractor rules should be applied to the Unions respecting whatever government their members are employed by. Just for Fairness.

Fleuries on May 16, 2013 at 8:43 AM

Agreed. When we decided to let government workers form greedy unions that should have also been forbidden from participation in the political process beyond voting. What we have now is a perfect circle of corruption.

“I’ll contribute to your campaign if you promise me a raise.”

slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 9:05 AM

We must have a Special Prosecutor on the IRS Corruption. Nothing short of that is acceptable.

The presidential election of 2012 was stolen.

slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Yeah sure, Cincinnati, locus of sin and corruption. Why didn’t the Democrat thugs pick Samoa?

arand on May 16, 2013 at 9:11 AM

I hate that lying piece of filth, ole jug ears.

Sherman1864 on May 16, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Boehner should go on tv every day and say those magic words, ‘who’s going to jail over this’. It would seem that threats of prosecution are the only thing that will get those low level workers to fess us.

Kissmygrits on May 16, 2013 at 9:13 AM

[Marcus Traianus on May 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM]

I’d be interested to know what the breakdown is, on average, between formal letters to agencies by Congresscritters and informal behind the scenes communications with these same agencies by the Congresscritters and their staff. I wonder how much follow-up pressure these same Senators put on the IRS to act on their requests.

I mention it because a friend of mine who works in the media has told me on several occasions that our Congressional Rep or his staff calls his office almost everyday to complain about or demand additions to their news articles and such.

Dusty on May 16, 2013 at 9:13 AM

This is going well beyond the IRS.

Marcus Traianus on May 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Let us pray, fervently, that it does.

Cleombrotus on May 16, 2013 at 9:15 AM

These “rogue” employees better get ready to start whistle blowing and fast or they’re going to take the fall for the Alinski-ites from Chicago. You better believe it that their superiors ordered it. These tactics came from Obama’s sycophants by way of Obama. This is straight from Chicago-style politics and I don’t think the low level employees in Cincinnati are as familiar with those methods as Obama and his friends.

Boy, these people in the various agencies are sure being played for suckers. Obama and his pals will leave government richer and richer unscarred and the lackeys will pay dearly with careers and possible jail time. Too bad the liberal media hacks (like Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz) who have facilitated Obama can’t see some of that jail time and career ending consequences too.

iamsaved on May 16, 2013 at 9:16 AM

NotCoach on May 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Damn I’m old, surrounded by youngsters.

cozmo on May 16, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Axelrod: “Don’t blame Obama. Government is just way too big!”

TEA Party: “Hey. Dumbass. That’s what we been trying to tell ya!

BigAlSouth on May 16, 2013 at 9:20 AM

BUH-BAM! Harry Reid just got a iece of the IRS Scandal Shi’ite Pie dropped in his lap!

The question was asked, “During the 2012 election campaign Harry Reid publicly attacked Mitt Romney by adamantly declaring Romney had not paid taxes for 10 years….so how did Reid know that? Where did he get this information?”

I may be hoping for too much, but…WooooHooo!

easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 9:24 AM

This really is very serious…this is the all powerful IRS, a federal agency with dictatorial like authority over the very core of ours or any nations most important asset….THE MONEY!!!!

They can send people to prison (or Gulags, when applicable), freeze their finances, harass them incessantly, and do this with no accountability. All by people who took an oath to be on their honor in terms of being impartial and apolitical. (Especially in this administration and very especially by the communist)

Can the IRS be trusted any longer? And now this broad, vast government agency is to administer our medical futures and have more access to our private lives than ever before.

BTW, many heart felt thanks to John Roberts.

DWoDiego on May 16, 2013 at 9:24 AM

The rogues are in the White House…

d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Yeah sure, Cincinnati, locus of sin and corruption. Why didn’t the Democrat thugs pick Samoa?

arand on May 16, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Hey, we just got casinos along the riverfront in the past couple of years.

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BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Show of hands of those surprised. Thought so.
Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM

I’d raise mine, but they’re holding my ribs from laughing so hard.

Really, even if I was Liberal enough to believe this swill, why stop firing at just those 2…4…6 people?

If they had THAT much power that they had access to the records of American citizens & were able to demand same; shouldn’t the entire Management team be removed, from Sec. Lew on down?

That includes the IG staff, the IT Dept. the damn cleaning lady….

And don’t give me that bullshyte about how “irreplaceable” they are, considering we could replace them with the extra 16,000 we’re supposed to add via Obama Care Mandate in 2014.

BlaxPac on May 16, 2013 at 9:28 AM

If an agency wants info make sure it is on an official government form that can be easily found on the Internet. If not then it is probably made up. Government has a form number on everything official.

Russ86 on May 16, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Critical Thinking…It’s what’s for Breakfast

Does any of this sound like it’s the result of a random bureaucratic snafu or the work of a couple of “rogue agents”?

Corruption: The inspector general’s report on the IRS targeting of conservatives makes it seem like a case of bureaucratic bumbling. But the more we learn, the more it looks like a concerted effort to hobble Obama’s political foes.

‘Inappropriate criteria,” “insufficient oversight” and “lack of managerial review.” That’s what led the IRS to target hundreds of conservative groups for intrusive, costly and lengthy scrutiny during their application for tax-exempt status, according to the IG report released on Tuesday.

In other words, it wasn’t a politically motivated attack on conservative groups during a presidential campaign. It was just a case of some bad wording and a lack of good bosses.

Except that, as details of the IRS scandal emerge, it’s increasingly giving the appearance of a wide-scale effort to tilt the playing field against conservative activist groups who might have been helpful to Republican candidates in the 2012 election, while at the same time coddling liberal groups helpful to Obama.

Consider what we now know the IRS did:

• Gave preferential treatment to liberal groups. On Tuesday, USA Today reported that while the IRS was hounding conservative groups and holding up their applications for tax-exempt status, it was quickly ushering liberal groups with names like “Progress Florida” and “Missourians Organizing for Reform” through the process.

USA Today found that in the 27 months after Feb. 2010, the IRS did not approve a single Tea Party application. Over those same months, however, dozens of applications submitted by liberal groups that were engaged in the same type of activities and were seeking the same tax status as the conservative ones sailed through the agency.

“As applications for conservative groups sat in limbo,” USA Today reported, “groups with liberal-sounding names had their applications approved in as little as nine months.”

Meanwhile, the IG found that of the 296 applications filed by conservative groups it examined, more than half were still in limbo, with some of them having been on hold for more than three years.

• Made unusual document requests. Not only did the IRS target conservative groups for extra scrutiny, it also asked for massive amounts of information that it couldn’t possibly need to determine tax-exempt status.

Among them: donor names, blog posts, transcripts of radio interviews, resumes of top officers, board minutes and summaries of material passed out at meetings.

Some groups were asked about connections to other conservative groups or individuals.

The IRS demanded, for example, that the Center for Constitutional Law “explain in detail your organization’s involvement with the Tea Party.”

• Engaged in selective leaks. This week, ProPublica, a liberal-leaning nonprofit journalism organization, revealed that the IRS had leaked it nearly a dozen pending applications, including one submitted by Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS.

• Covered it up. If this was all an innocent mistake, why then did acting IRS commissioner Steven Miller tell Republican senators in April 2012 that conservative groups weren’t getting any special treatment, at least a month after learning they were? Another top IRS official appears to have misled Congress on four separate occasions last year.

And why is it that, as the New York Times reports, no one involved with the scandal at the IRS has been disciplined while “one in Cincinnati was promoted”?

In the end, the IRS managed to put its thumb on the political scale by squelching political activity on the right — some groups report curtailing get-out-the-vote efforts, spending piles of money on legal fees or disbanding altogether in the face of IRS inquisitions.

And all of it happened during a close and hotly contested presidential election where such mischievousness could make a real difference…”

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workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Carney: OK For Obama To Learn About Scandals From Press Reports

So I guess he doesn’t need all those Czars & Cabinet appointees, seeing as how thay are about as useless as teats on a warthog?!

easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 9:28 AM

When the American Public has a chance to go after the IRS does O think we won’t bare our fangs and rip the Tax Gestappo to unrecognizable shreds? Disband the IRS and Jail the O. Plastik on May 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM

The “American Public” in this effort is now represented by Eric Holder.

Akzed on May 16, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Show of hands of those surprised. Thought so.
Happy Nomad on May 16, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Obama picks Eric Holder as his A.G., despits:

- Holder helping obtain pardons for Mark Rich & the terrorist group FALN (& hiding documents during that process)…
- Holder encouraging/working for clemency for members of the Weatherman Underground, caught transporting 740 lbs of TNT to use in their bombings/terrorist attacks
- Holder’s law firm representing John Corzine, MF Global chairman who ripped off $1.5 billion from investors & escaped ALL punishment
- Who was part of the Elian Gonzales incident in which armed personnel barged into a civilian house, took him from the home, & sent him back to Cuba at gun-point

And anyone is surprised this man is in the center of all this scandal, perpetrated 3 Felony Counts of Perjury before Congress, & is the 1st AG in US History to ever be Censured?!

Or how about this – is anyone surprised about this ISR scandal when Obama’s hand-picked Sect of the Treasury was/is a TAX CHEAT?

easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Yeah sure, Cincinnati, locus of sin and corruption. Why didn’t the Democrat thugs pick Samoa?

arand on May 16, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Going back to the Seventies, the progressives have been moving “functions” out of DC to the hinterlands, for several reasons.

First of all, it’s classic pork-barrel politics. “Bringing home the bacon”(government jobs) to “loyal” progressive states and Congressional districts always plays well with local supporters. West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd (D-WVA), the “King of Pork”, had BATFE move its computer center that keeps track of firearms (including especially those in private hands) to the Mountain State, both for pork-barrel and purely ideological reasons. His successor, Joe “I Hate Guns And Their Owners” Manchin (D-WVA), keeps it there for the same reasons.

Second there’s ideology. As stated above, Byrd liked having BATFE’s database under his personal control. Most such operations end up in places where a Senator or Congresscritter who gets warm and fuzzy thoughts about the operation can have it as part of their fiefdom. It comes in handy when they want to use such ops to further their “agendas” without all that tedious mucking about with legislation.

Third, there’s the principle of dispersion in the military sense. Most people who are exercised about Federal government activities think Washington is where the problems are based. They appeal to their Representatives, and if the Rep isn’t a progressive, they may even try to “look into it”.

Surprise! It’s not in Washington. It’s in Cincinnati, or St. Louis, or Lompoc, or Some Wide Spot In The Road East Of West A$$hole, Nowhere. Where there’s no way to “conveniently” look it over.

Very few Congressthings will willingly leave the Beltway. Besides “missing votes”, they’d miss the cocktail parties- where all the “Real Work” gets done.

People worry about Washington, often never realising that the functions of government they worry most about are often right in their own back yards.

It’s not an accident. It’s because your Dear Leaders don’t want you, or anybody else, interfering in their fun.

And yes, they define beating you up as “fun”.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 16, 2013 at 9:39 AM

“What?” -Richard Nixon, June 18, 1972

Akzed on May 16, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Damn I’m old, surrounded by youngsters.

cozmo on May 16, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Don’t bet on it, Junior.

(B. 1958)

cheers

eon

eon on May 16, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Is there anyone on the Obama administration that doesn’t lie?

sadatoni on May 16, 2013 at 9:46 AM

So essentially, there is no “management” at the IRS? Employees just do what they damned well “feel like doing”?

Maybe “The Sequester” should hit IRS management – doesn’t look like their doing anything anyway. So they won’t be missed.

As for ‘already disciplined’ – I can already hear them crying DOUBLE JEOPARDY if someone presses criminal complaints.

GarandFan on May 16, 2013 at 9:47 AM

They were just following orders…where have we heard that before?

right2bright on May 16, 2013 at 8:16 AM

As I like to point out, the ‘Nuremberg Defense’ is perversely named after the only place in history where it didn’t work.

PersonFromPorlock on May 16, 2013 at 10:02 AM

These “rogue” employees better get ready to start whistle blowing and fast or they’re going to take the fall for the Alinski-ites from Chicago. You better believe it that their superiors ordered it. These tactics came from Obama’s sycophants by way of Obama. This is straight from Chicago-style politics and I don’t think the low level employees in Cincinnati are as familiar with those methods as Obama and his friends.

Boy, these people in the various agencies are sure being played for suckers. Obama and his pals will leave government richer and richer unscarred and the lackeys will pay dearly with careers and possible jail time. Too bad the liberal media hacks (like Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz) who have facilitated Obama can’t see some of that jail time and career ending consequences too.

iamsaved on May 16, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Wrong. Without a Special Prosecutor, the criminals in the IRS can be quietly shuffled off into another position, and promised a nice bonus for keeping quiet. The dipstick Holder will never place them in legal jeopardy because he doesn’t want them talking.

This is why we need a way to get around the dipstick Holder, and that means Special Prosecutor.

slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM

When do the Congressional hearings start? It’s time to start hauling people before Congress. Get the subpoenas ready.

Good Lt on May 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM

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