Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on May 16, 2013 by Allahpundit

Republicans must guard against the temptation to count on scandal to deliver election victories in 2014 and 2016.

It is a lesson they should have learned in 1998.
 Republicans expected to make large gains in Congress that year but ended up losing five House seats and standing pat in the Senate. The problem was not so much that Republicans “overreached” in pursuing the impeachment of President Clinton, as the conventional wisdom has it. The Republicans that year did not really run on a promise to remove Clinton from office — or on any other agenda. Their strategy was to assume that the scandal would redound to their benefit, and that they merely had to sit back and let victory rain o’er them. It didn’t.

The current lot should not make the same mistake. Democratic scandal does not take the place of a Republican agenda. It does not reform the tax code or reduce the debt or ease regulatory burdens on small business. It cannot substitute for a strategy to replace Obamacare.

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As Domenech noted this morning:

“Here’s the hard thing Republicans have to do if they don’t want this crisis to go to waste: they have to ignore their id, the temptation of the sugar high of partisan point-scoring. They must willfully set aside Obama’s presence in the fray, leaving the short term personalized attacks on the table, and go after the much bigger prize. Obama isn’t running for office again. Liberalism is. Making this about him is a short term boost to the pleasure center of the conservative brain. Making this about the inherent falsehood of the progressive project will help conservatism win.”…

Republicans must remember that the problem is not Democrats in charge of government, but government itself. The argument falls flat if Republicans revert to “big government conservative” arguments of “put us in charge” and we’ll do better with the same. No they won’t.

Government is the problem. The vastness, complexity, and nefarious encroachment into our personal lives should be fought, not just blamed on the other side.

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It’s fine if there is at some point political hay to be made out of this — that’s a key part of the adversarial nature of accountability in democratic politics, not a defect within it — but it would be a far better thing for the country if the president were to adopt such an aggressively reformist agenda for the IRS that there would be no hay to be made, no room to get to the right of him on the issue. The important thing is to make sure that the administration does the right thing here, even if it does so only because it is in the president’s political interests. When political incentives produce desirable outcomes, we should let them work. If the president wants to take the lead in this matter, fine: That’s what we have presidents for. That does not mean that Congress steps away from its oversight responsibilities or conducts anything less than a full and deep investigation: That’s why we have separation of powers.

I myself doubt very much that the president or any of his immediate circle had a hand in this — it is in the nature of the Left (and in the nature of political power itself) that no marching orders from the top are necessary. University presidents do not tell hiring committees to discriminate against conservative academics, they just do it. No president or Treasury secretary had to tell the IRS to do this.

In some ways, the received version of events is worse than would be a top-directed cabal of rogue IRS agents acting on orders from political superiors. A corrupt element within an agency can be rooted out, and a criminal conspiracy can be unraveled. When the agency is the criminal conspiracy, then the challenge of reform becomes that much greater.

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Policy-wonks dismiss scandal because it’s not in their specialty wheelhouse of policy. But governance is not just policy — it is also governance, that is to say, it is also management, and all the requirements of sound management, such as focus to detail, ethics, integrity, and honesty.

Why is it somehow “less” to knock the White House and the Democrats for failing at these things? Are they not important as well?

Policy matters, but so does personnel. And, let’s recall — policy is personnel.

Let’s be honest here: 40% of the voters have no idea what policies are in play in any specific election, and 70% of them don’t know the specifics of policies under consideration. We tend to know broad strokes…

So yes, I do wish to run on scandal, at least partially, because You cannot trust them is a very effective campaign theme, and has won more elections than any policy-based theme.

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[A]s much as congressional Republicans are enjoying their schadenfreude, they would be well advised to think long and hard about their next steps. Even the most cursory look at opinion polls or focus groups reveals that the public is convinced we have an ineffectual and out-of-touch Congress that spends too much time backbiting, grandstanding, and Monday-morning quarterbacking while the country’s problems fester. Arguably, showboating for the cameras and holding hearings are what Congress does best; the temptation is unavoidable.

Republicans would be much wiser to pursue a third option: Dig up as much damaging information as they can about the Obama administration and leak it to reporters they know will write tough stories that won’t be traced back to the source. That way, the public won’t see the GOP as being obsessed with attacking the other side and playing gotcha at the expense of the big issues facing the country—the ones voters really care about.

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”The area we have to avoid is to not use the ‘I’ word — impeachment,” said Bolger. “It is far too early for that, and talking about impeachment now means you are not serious about the issue — you are just trying to score political points.”

Bolger’s advice? Use the IRS and AP stories to make a broader point about the differing views the parties have of the role of government. “AP and IRS are what happens when you elect people who worship at the altar of unfettered government,” explained Bolger. “Big, powerful government is not the answer.”

Another Republican consultant, granted anonymity to speak candidly, added that his party has to double track — investigating wrongdoing while also pushing its own positive agenda. ”This is part of my concern about the GOP being the poster child of Washington dysfunction because all we ever do is block legislation, we never pass anything,” the source wrote in an e-mail to The Fix. “We need to deal with immigration, budget, tax reform, etc. etc. while we’re doing this.”

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Republicans may feel greater effects. Even before these disclosures, congressional Republicans had dramatically escalated their resistance to Obama’s second term. While the House is voting yet again this week to repeal the president’s health care law, Senate Republicans have blocked consideration of Obama’s nominees for Labor secretary and Environmental Protection Agency administrator. As in Clinton’s era, the approaching cycle of investigation, media leak, and hearing-room confrontation over the IRS and Benghazi will deepen a sense of unstinting partisan conflict that will further narrow the space for serious legislative negotiations.

Davis, now director of federal affairs at the Deloitte consulting firm, says one critical difference from the Clinton years is that many GOP leaders still consider deals with Obama on immigration and the debt ceiling to be in the party’s self-interest. But to the extent Republicans believe scandal is bloodying Obama (and thus Democrats for 2014 and 2016), party leaders will face greater pressure not to buttress him with any policy agreements. “This makes it far more challenging for someone … who wants to do deals with a president who is just despised by the base,” says Gillon.

If these investigations ultimately impede deal-making on issues such as immigration, they will imperil Obama’s desire for a legislative legacy and stunt his second term. Yet such a breakdown would also endanger the GOP’s need to expand its unsustainably narrow electoral coalition. Republicans could find that stoking the flames of scandal may sear not only Obama’s hopes but also their own.

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“These guys are awfully frustrated right now,” Carville said, referring to the GOP. “They’re taking the anger out, and I understand that. I think the White House has just go to live with this for 30 days, get the truth out and you know, just roll with the punches here. They’re down to swinging pretty wildly here.”

He added, “That’s just going to be what we’re going to have to deal with here for the next month and I think the president needs to get ahead of it and probably put a new person in there and find out what happened and report to the American people and it will burn itself out, too. And it will move to the next thing.”

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Yes, Democrats destroyed Richard Nixon and shook America’s faith in government. But for all that effort, they ended up controlling the White House for just four of the next eighteen years.

To be sure, there were many other consequences, and there were numerous reasons why Republicans continuing winning the White House, despite Nixon’s resignation. But at the end of the day, we’re still left with this: Even the model scenario for ousting a sitting president yielded, at best, mixed results for the party out of power.

But that’s not the point. This isn’t about politics, it’s about the rule of law.

It’s about doing what’s right. It’s about holding powerful people accountable. It’s about preserving liberty. It’s about sending a message to the next administration that we’re watching — that abuses of power won’t be tolerated.

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Via Mediaite.

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Liam on May 17, 2013 at 12:19 AM

I’m glad.:)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Didn’t mean it in a bad way. Everybody likes Suave!

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:21 AM

O, I understood. :) How could anyone mean it in a bad way? I mean, smell me!

*fans self into room*

I’m delicious.

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Y’all past players of dungeons and dragons?

bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Elements of a mis-spent youth. D&D until 2 AM Saturday night, then up the next morning for church.

/Yep, them was fun days

AZfederalist on May 17, 2013 at 12:24 AM

Minor Swing

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 12:24 AM

I’m glad.:)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 AM

I call her Lady Princess, and she calls me Knight Liam.

She is the one I wish I married.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 AM

must bow out-
laterz.
xo Plug and Ken.

bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Two Pieces. Here and here. See what you think. ; )

Bmore on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 AM

You still around, RWM?

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:22 AM

Good evening, Axefellow.:) I’m delighted to see you.

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:26 AM

RWM- that’s. Why I posed the kmer rouge analogy.

Low info’s.

It’s not the same with your examples, I don’t believe.

My grandfather was taught to hate Mussolini and Hitler’s policies. Not adore them.

Only home schooled teenagers would have any idea who Wilson was. Or FDR.

Public schools are run by progressives.

wolly4321 on May 17, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Shaw-Live

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Bmore, looks coold.

Pls. consider doing one with the Three Monkeys of Oblivion.

Obama
Holder
Hillary

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Night B9!

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Minor Swing

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 12:24 AM

LOVE Django!

williamg on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Ohhhhhhh yes! I sent her that one I think!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Bmore, looks cool (cold too, but spelled right).

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 AM

That’s a very touching story. You should write it. Fictionalize it if you wish, but that’s the heart and soul of a great story.

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

You still around, RWM?

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Yes.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

There were goon squads in the US under Wilson (American Protective League) and a little less obvious during FDR (NRA’s Blue Eagle enforcers).

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 AM

For the young among us, that was the National Recovery Act — a socialist program passed by FDR and his democrat majority — NOT the National Rifle Association

AZfederalist on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Scump is smoking..just know it.
SP’s magic ball says so.

bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 12:22 AM

The magic one is lefty. That’s righties big twin brother. They hang out together.

O_o <— evil laugh track goes here.

SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 AM

ozzy/lita

jrsrigmvr on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Bmore on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 AM

number two is good, but number one is money!

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 AM

There were goon squads in the US under Wilson (American Protective League) and a little less obvious during FDR (NRA’s Blue Eagle enforcers).

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:23 AM

And peep this, people with un-this-peeped peepers.

And then peep this, to forget peeping that.

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Bmore on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 AM

number two is good, but number one is money!

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 AM

And stop by more often!

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:30 AM

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 12:24 AM

Good evening, Nova! I hope you’re well. :)

So … you’re cuing up Django Reinhardt… very cool. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Bmore gets inspired by pie. Then he does art.

SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 12:31 AM

That’s a very touching story. You should write it. Fictionalize it if you wish, but that’s the heart and soul of a great story.

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

I write and get it out. But never overtly.

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Ohhhhhhh yes! I sent her that one I think!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Well, exactly how many did you send her, young lady? :)

Everyone is so much faster than me to carpe their diems. And it’s not like I’m not carpe-ing my diem or something — far from it.

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:31 AM

jrsrigmvr on May 17, 2013 at 12:29 AM

FRED! Good evening. :)

Too cool. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM

The Dream

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Good evening, my friend. I’ve not seen you in a very long while. I hope all is well with you. :)

In-a-gadda-da-vida – Iron Butterfly

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Hey Jackie!

Everything is as well as should be: 2nd shift and no internet access makes me VERY depressed cuz i can’t timely comments…lol

All Right Now: Free

BlaxPac on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:31 AM

2. I also sent Softer Still, it’s kinda ‘sexy’ :-)

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:33 AM

BlaxPac on May 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM

I’ve missed you around here! I haven’t forgotten our popcorn fest, either! :)

That’s a very cool tune. Love that one. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Good evening, Axefellow.:) I’m delighted to see you.

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Graceful Jackie. Unwound? :)

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Unusual

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:34 AM

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:30 AM

hi Jackie-

Check upstream for a couple of more tunes. Bromberg, Dan Hicks…

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 12:34 AM

Yes.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Just some music for my time, maybe before you were born.

For your pleasure, if you will…

Ventura Highway, by America. An old fave of mine. I recall when it was new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5J54RVZjYs

Liam on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Yes.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

lol — So, Resist, with blue eyes and what with earthquakes:

Y’all past players of dungeons and dragons?

bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 12:10 AM

lol — Eh?

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Bmore on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Dang man!! Those are GOOD!!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM

@BMore, I liked the punk one, but you should know my first thought, before looking close and reading, was bomb. :)

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:36 AM

Just a reminder…Obama had Marines violate their uniform code today…

What a Putz!

http://patterico.com/2013/05/16/compare-and-contrast/

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 12:06 AM

workingclass artist:

Hopey’s a Klutz/Putz,which reminds me of when,Changey visited the
Queen in England,and decided to give a toast,and the Brits National
anthem started to play,and she gave him that look!!

Obama Trying To Toast To Queen Elizabeth During National Anthem
****************************************************************

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2-KDETdxeE

canopfor on May 17, 2013 at 12:36 AM

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM

I’ve never played D&D. Seriously.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:36 AM

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:33 AM

LOL! Well… working on it. I was sideswiped by some last minute hitches today… but resolved them just in time for the video to burn out on my main computer. Its in the shop… and I’m using my backup. It’s been one long week. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 AM

So, Axe what did you send Lila!

I KNOW it’s gotta be good!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 AM

I’ve missed you around here! I haven’t forgotten our popcorn fest, either! :)

That’s a very cool tune. Love that one. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:33 AM

After the last few months of doc-dumps from the Administration, i think my popcorn deficit is in the quad-triple digits…

Im working on Nacho Cheeze rice cakes now…lol

BlaxPac on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 AM

The TEA party was revived by Obama.

Nixon was redeemed by Obama.

Don’t forget that the TEA party was quieted after 2010.

They will surpass 2010 in 2014, with ferver.

Bravo Obama!!! A+ h/t Del

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Y’all past players of dungeons and dragons?

bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 12:10 AM

bazil9:(I’m Kidding):)

DEVIL WORSHIPPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sarc)

canopfor on May 17, 2013 at 12:39 AM

Unusual

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:34 AM

That was definitely unusual! Hi Schad!

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 AM

I am pinning my hopes all on that!!

TP’ers United all across America!!

One huge fracking blow out!!

Hows about a 3 million TP march on DC for starters!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:40 AM

NASCAR legend Dick Trickle commits suicide at 71, calling police beforehand to instruct them where to find his dead body

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM

*Chiquita?*

An ‘old man’ should be at least one full man away from suicide. :/

Sad seeing that.

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:43 AM

….to be literal….it’s saxophones and a bass clarinet……

williamg on May 17, 2013 at 12:43 AM

Evil Woman

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 12:43 AM

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:34 AM

WOW! That was incerdible!! Diving Giraffes!

Keep finding more like that!! I loved it!

Thanks that was brilliant!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Y’all past players of dungeons and dragons?

bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Is 2 years ago considered the past, or do you mean the PAST past?

^x^

BlaxPac on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Actually that was fvcking ACE!!!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:34 AM

That was remarkable! There was a moment that reminded me of the poem “The Paris Metro” and then a scene that was very reminiscent of Esher’s stairs, and it moved into a surrealist feeling ala Dali, and then it flowed into a feel of ballet, straight into thinking of swans, and of when I was 7 and saw the trapeze artists at the circus, to a chorus line as the giraffes bowed to drink. It was so fascinating I couldn’t look away. I’ve bookmarked it and will definitely show it to friend with the appropriat hat tip to you. Thanks. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 AM

So, Axe what did you send Lila!

I KNOW it’s gotta be good!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 AM

All I’m going to send is The Mirage. :)

As soon as I fix two words . . . that keep sticking me.

I thought maybe I could ask her to sneak in a poem by me, secretly. Not sure about that yet. :) Most of my “serious” stuff is signed by real-world me.

I have to say, real world me is getting p!ssed at Axe being in the way. You know how many times RWM could have called me me by now?

Meh. brb. Fridge run.

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Hows about a 3 million TP march on DC for starters!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:40 AM

We already had one with around half a million and no one bothered reporting it – or when they finally did they called it 50,000 people. O’Really gave us the benefit of the doubt and put the number at 65,000. And it didn’t get the GOP to do anything, anyway. They just sat by while Barky and the dems used every criminal technique in the book to shove BarkyCare through. Boner, as minority leader, wouldn’t even force one complete reading of one version of the the pathetic 2000+ page bill.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Turning in folks! TGIF. Well here..almost.

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

“Common core”. Pretty much leads to nothing good.

If you have kids in school, you better google it.

A few states have gotten wise to it.

It. Is. Not. Good.

Maybe reseach how ideological it is.

Be advised, if it’s a gubmint site, they are selling it.

The progs are hell bent here in AZ.

wolly4321 on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Ah, well….nobody cares……..

G’night

williamg on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Dunno who this guy is, but ‘y’all’ might…

NASCAR legend Dick Trickle commits suicide at 71, calling police beforehand to instruct them where to find his dead body

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Resist We Much:

I have heard of him,I’m more of a Drag Racing type of fan,
anywho,he must of been in some kind of turmoil in his life:)

canopfor on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 AM

I am pinning my hopes all on that!!

TP’ers United all across America!!

One huge fracking blow out!!

Hows about a 3 million TP march on DC for starters!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Count me in. The tea party is back huge I pray. Schad is right it’s cause of IrsObama.

SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Hi Ken!

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 AM

LOL! Well… working on it. I was sideswiped by some last minute hitches today… but resolved them just in time for the video to burn out on my main computer. Its in the shop… and I’m using my backup. It’s been one long week. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 AM

U beat the hell out of your puter. :)

So cool. Burned. It. Up.

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 AM

williamg on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Hi. Stay here.

SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 12:50 AM

BlaxPac on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Hmm.. rice cakes… I hadn’t considered those in Nacho Cheese. Interesting. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Ah, well….nobody cares……..

G’night

williamg on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

williamg:Sweet Dreams WG:)

canopfor on May 17, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Ah, well….nobody cares……..

G’night

williamg on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Everyone cares. INC always talks common core. Malkin too. :)

Everyone gets invisible sometimes. I was complaining about that the other night. And I smell like Suave.

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:51 AM

You know how many times RWM could have called me me by now?

Meh. brb. Fridge run.

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Hah, you mean Sophie.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Me bugging out as well,my stupid computer.,,,arghhh,

GoodNight Patriots,everyone have a great night——————:)

canopfor on May 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Evil Woman

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 AM

I already told my neighbours!! I am gonna gave a full house tomorrow!! Watching it…

Schadenfreude…

THAT was the best thing I have seen in ages!! Thank you for sharing {hugs}

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Yes… I’m afraid working straight through was too much for it.Ah well… it will be fixed up soon… they said Monday. Still… good to know I can outwork the thing. Yes… that’s right… Jackie beat the machine. Take that “Metropolis”! LOL!:)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:55 AM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Yes I know :-(.

But I believe this time (if there is) It will be impossible to ignore!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:55 AM

canopfor on May 17, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Goodnight, Canopfor! Good to know I’m not the only one going one on one with the machine. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:56 AM

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Found it fascinating and liked all you described. I loved circuses as a kid. However, I find something very odd about the giraffes diving. Never knew they could do that.

Pls. share, freely. No need for h-tips :)

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Ah, well….nobody cares……..

G’night

williamg on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Thats not a good attitude to cop now is it?!!

Good Night williamg :-)

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Speaking of Dali, Axe, study up. Sophie likes.

If you already know this, of course just ignore.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Evil Woman

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 12:57 AM

williamg on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Goodnight, williamg. Of course we care. There’s so much to do tonight, the thread is moving along, a lot of tunes and clips to view. I hope you don’t think I was ignoring you. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Yes… I’m afraid working straight through was too much for it.Ah well… it will be fixed up soon… they said Monday. Still… good to know I can outwork the thing. Yes… that’s right… Jackie beat the machine. Take that “Metropolis”! LOL!:)

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 12:55 AM

*looks around at endless franken-equipment, held together by prayer and love*

*nods*

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 AM

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Hope your here, if not Good night Ken!! Sleep well!

Good night too to canopfor!!

God Bless you both

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 AM

ac/dc

jrsrigmvr on May 17, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Then – this weary, winsome ballad fills my head…..

williamg on May 17, 2013 at 12:24 AM

Love this. Sorry that I didn’t catch up with you sooner, brilliant one.

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 12:59 AM

SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 AM

I will go even if it means flying!!

I wouldn’t miss it for ALL the tea in China nope sirree!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 1:00 AM

So, the “Womp” business. Is that pronounced “woomp” or “wahmp”?

cptacek on May 17, 2013 at 1:00 AM

NASCAR legend Dick Trickle commits suicide at 71, calling police beforehand to instruct them where to find his dead body

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Ugh. That’s awful. His name was always good for laugh for those who ever heard it, but he was a NASCAR icon in his own right. I’m sure FOX and NASCAR will do a tribute to him this Saturday. Ironically Saturday night is the all-star race (think NFL Pro Bowl or Major League All-Star Game).

Much of Trickle’s short-track success came in Wisconsin, where he was nicknamed the “White Knight” because of his SuperAmerica paint scheme.

Reigning Sprint Cup champion Brad Keselowski said Trickle was “the guy” when it came to Midwest short-track racing.
“He meant a lot to the local short-track racers,” Keselowski said after unveiling his Miller Lite fan mosaic paint scheme for Saturday’s All-Star race. “Kind of more the Midwest style of racing, which was track by track when NASCAR was more of a regional Southern sport before it had developed to the national platform it is now. He was the superstar of that style.

“It is very sad to see him go, and obviously difficult with the way it went.”

NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 1:01 AM

This one is for Jackie:

Fool For You

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Axe on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Actually, I get absurdly attached to these things. I hate it when I actually have to replace one. It’s silly, I know.

thatsafactjack on May 17, 2013 at 1:03 AM

NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Sad to think he would take his own life…

Perhaps he was suffering and couldn’t endure it any longer…

God rest his weary soul may he R.I.P!!

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 1:04 AM

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Hope your here, if not Good night Ken!! Sleep well!

Sneaked back in for a sec and saw this. XXXOOO!

KCB on May 17, 2013 at 1:04 AM

NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Very sad news. Trickle was by all accounts a much respected racer. Anyone who ever saw him do an interview could see the humor and the magnetism of the guy. It’s a shame.

novaculus on May 17, 2013 at 1:05 AM

cptacek on May 17, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Whoomp maybe?

Scrumpy on May 17, 2013 at 1:05 AM

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