Boehner: IRS scandal question is “who’s going to jail?”

posted at 12:01 pm on May 15, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Tough talk or real action?  John Boehner held a press conference earlier today that emphasized the IRS scandal’s potentially criminal nature.  Rather than wondering whether heads should roll, Boehner said the real question is whether butts should land in jail (video via Gateway Pundit):

The admitted targeting of conservative groups applying for tax exempt status is grounds for some Internal Revenue Service employees to lose their jobs, House Speaker John Boehner said Wednesday.

“The IRS has admitted to targeting conservatives, even if the White House continues to be stuck on the word ‘if,’” Boehner said at a press conference on Capitol Hill. “Now, my question isn’t about who’s going to resign. My question is who’s going to jail over this scandal?”

“There are laws in place to prevent this type of abuse,” Boehner continued. “Someone made a conscious decision to harass and hold up these requests for tax exempt status. I think we need to know who they are, whether they violated the law. Clearly someone violated the law.”

This has already generated plenty of skepticism in our comment threads regarding Boehner’s resolve on the matter.  However, it’s worth remembering our civics classes and realizing that Boehner can’t really put people in jail, at least not directly.  He can’t even make heads roll in the executive branch. (You can look this up, as Casey Stengel used to say.)  Nor is he promising in this instance to do any of the above — he’s just saying that’s what should happen, challenging the White House to take this seriously.

Did it work? Not so far:

“The federal government must conduct itself in a way that’s worthy of the public’s trust, and that’s especially true for the IRS. The IRS must apply the law in a fair and impartial way, and its employees must act with utmost integrity,” [Barack Obama] said. “This report shows that some of its employees failed that test.”

Obama ordered Treasury Secretary Jack Lew to ensure that each of the inspector general’s recommendations are implemented soon, “so that such conduct never happens again.”

In other words, mistakes were made, and let’s change a few of the internal rules to keep it from happening again.  Otherwise, “some” of the IRS’ employees may fail in the next test, too.

So what can Boehner do?  He can make sure that House committees start subpoenaing IRS and Treasury officials to determine under oath what actually transpired for the 27 months that the IRS blocked conservative groups’ tax-exempt applications while approving dozens for progressive groups.  The House can file contempt charges against Douglas Shulman and Steve Miller, the former and current IRS Commissioners, for either lying to Congress in testimony or misleading Congress over these practices, although those would have to be pursued in court by the Department of Justice.  And on that point, USA Today’s editorial hits the nail on the head:

As for the IRS revelation, Attorney General Eric Holder has ordered a criminal investigation to determine whether anyone at the agency broke the law. That’s a start. But the Justice Department’s decision-making in the AP case doesn’t inspire confidence in the result.

Given all we have seen over the past week, Boehner’s best chance to see his perspective prevail is to call for a special prosecutor in the IRS probe.  That would probably sideline the House committees, though, and that might create even more problems for Boehner, at least politically among his caucus.  We might just have to settle for exposing whatever crimes took place in hearings, and let that exposure create its own pressure on the White House to make heads roll.


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I know the answer, ” What’s No one?”

LincolntheHun on May 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Gitmo…

Electrongod on May 15, 2013 at 12:04 PM

The question should be who’s going to be impeached!

MPan on May 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Boehner: IRS scandal question is “who’s going to jail?”

Be careful with that line of reasoning. Somehow Barry’s Gang might find a way to pin it on you and/or members of your party.

Could be tied to sequester. It is the root of all evil blamed on the GOP to the dems, doncha know.

hawkeye54 on May 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM

It’s a nice sentiment but the ones who would get punished wouldn’t be the ones that matter.

myiq2xu on May 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM

It falls upon the DOJ, that should give everyone comfort…

right2bright on May 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Boehner: IRS scandal question is “who’s going to jail?”

Who? The lowest level flunky scapegoats who can pass muster as the responsible parties, that’s who.

The Chicago Gang is probably already sorting through and vetting possible candidates. Once selected they will assure all of them their spouses and their children will be well taken care of while they are doing time.

farsighted on May 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM

The question should be who’s going to be impeached!

We know who. What we need to know is WHEN!!!?

As if.

hawkeye54 on May 15, 2013 at 12:06 PM

We might just have to settle for exposing whatever crimes took place in hearings, and let that exposure create its own pressure on the White House to make heads roll.

I’m fine with that IF(and it’s a HUGE if) the House Republicans use these hearings to publicly shame and expose the IRS for what they did and how it directly benefited the Democrat Party. If after all of that the White House still refuses to act, let them deal with the political fallout for the rest of Obama’s Presidency.

Doughboy on May 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM

It’s a nice sentiment but the ones who would get punished wouldn’t be the ones that matter.

So true. The little people are always expendable.

hawkeye54 on May 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Until Boehner does something…special committee with subpoena powers, he’s just bloviating.

I can’t stand this man. He is the sissy of DC.

The fools of DC thought that they could golf and hang out with the Charlatan in Chief. They found out how deceiving Obama is.

Imagine, he golfs and dines with the ones he destroys.

Goebbels and Orwell are one now.

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM

By the time this is over the media will probably have twisted it so much it will be Boehner…

sandee on May 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM

I’m fine with that IF(and it’s a HUGE if) the House Republicans use these hearings to publicly shame and expose the IRS for what they did and how it directly benefited the Democrat Party.

It’s really impossible to shame the dems and liberals. The only fleeting shame they know is getting caught doing something other people consider wrong. And that too passes quickly.

hawkeye54 on May 15, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Who is John Boehner?

portlandon on May 15, 2013 at 12:10 PM

crybaby said “butts”

kunegetikos on May 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Until Boehner does something…special committee with subpoena powers, he’s just bloviating.

I can’t stand this man. He is the sissy of DC.

Big talk from Barry’s golf and smoking buddy. Bluster with no backbone.

hawkeye54 on May 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Obama, Holder, Hillary, to start.

But it’ll never happen.

The Rogue Tomato on May 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM

all talk methinks

cmsinaz on May 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM

“The federal government must conduct itself in a way that’s worthy of the public’s trust, and that’s especially true for the IRS. The IRS must apply the law in a fair and impartial way, and its employees must act with utmost integrity,” [Barack Obama] said. “This report shows that some of its employees failed that test.”

Apparently, so have a bunch of Democrat Senators.

What say you, Mr. President?

Midas on May 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Tough talk or real action?

Tough talk. He’s trying to deflect pressure to create a special committee with the staffing, funding and subpoena authority to investigate these scandals. He is helping to protect Obama.

Doomberg on May 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM

all talk methinks

cmsinaz on May 15, 2013 at 12:11 PM

+100

Liam on May 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM

I hope this man and many others get pancreatic cancer if the right thing isn’t done. I am beyond fed up with these beta males and the ignorant masses in this country!!!!

GhoulAid on May 15, 2013 at 12:12 PM

well, they successfully had everything get glossed over until after the Nov. election. I think we need to call for a “Do Over”!

kirkill on May 15, 2013 at 12:13 PM

The best we can hope for from the tough guy act is that some mope at IRS will be sufficiently frightened to come forward with information. In Benghazi, we were lucky to have genuine professionals care about the country and their co-workers to cause them to come forward. Jobs and jail might scare some paper pushers. How great is their love for The Won?

Cindy Munford on May 15, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Goebbels and Orwell are one now.

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Uh, for the record, Orwell’s one of the Good Guys- for exposing the Bad Guys.

Bat Chain Puller on May 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM

The question should be who’s going to be impeached!

MPan on May 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM

The House could vote for an impeachment trial, but conviction requires a 2/3 vote of the Senate.

The combination of 1) party loyalty and 2) racism in Obama’s favor (what Democrat is going to vote in favor of convicting the first black pResident?) mean that there is effectively ZERO probability of 67 Senators voting to convict Obama, no matter how many laws he breaks.

ITguy on May 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM

it’ll again come down to the wolves watching the chicken coop.

kirkill on May 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Not entirely OT: in all these ‘new’ scandals, has Pigford been forgotten?

PersonFromPorlock on May 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Stall for 3 years, 500 pages filled with the names of those who get a Presidential pardon (Times New Roman Size 8 Font) and all will be well. Crown Hillary the next One and move into a bunker!!

Deano1952 on May 15, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Hey, wow, look at that. Another opportunity to cut funding for Obamacare (handled by this same IRS) until you get all your questions answered.
 
Quick! Squander it!

rogerb on May 15, 2013 at 12:18 PM

He’ll do nothing. He and Obama are buds. It’s all talk.

WhatSlushfund on May 15, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Let the rogue IRS employees be fired and jailed etc…

Perhaps one or a few will have their conscience pricked and come forward and whistle-blow on the ones who commanded them to do this?

Who wrote and created the forms eh?

Yeah get that bastage, because I cannot believe that some low level flunkies wrote that!

Screw the IRS!!

Defund it!

Scrumpy on May 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Shut up John.

We don’t need you. No, really. We don’t.

You don’t get to jump in here and “take charge” of asserting Constitutional authority and exercise oversight of the Executive Branch.

Hey John, hows that GOP revolt going concerning the select committee?

FU John. No, really. Go get drunk and play some golf. No, really. Please.

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

It won’t make much difference. The Marxist-in-Chief will only pardon whoever goes to prison at the end of his term, although at this point that list might be mighty long.

HiJack on May 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Uh, for the record, Orwell’s one of the Good Guys- for exposing the Bad Guys.

Bat Chain Puller on May 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Orwell was a socialist. Not a Soviet-style socialist, but one of those typical European intellectual socialists (England’s full of them…) who always think socialism would work if only the right people are in charge.

CurtZHP on May 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

So what can Boehner do?

He can bring a bill to the House floor that dismantles the IRS. And schedule a vote for next week.

Yes, I’m 100% serious.

Chris of Rights on May 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Don’t let them whitewash the IRS scandal…

http://www.hughhewitt.com/the-treasury-igs-report/

And don’t let them limit to to delaying TEA Party applications… they leaked…

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/14/Obama-campaign-co-chair-attacked-Romney-conservative-group-in-2012-with-leaked-IRS-scandal-documents

And check out TheBlaze…

ninjapirate on May 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Well dang you too HA! What did I write that you had to not post my comment eh?

Scrumpy on May 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM

He can bring a bill to the House floor that dismantles the IRS. And schedule a vote for next week.

Yes, I’m 100% serious.

Chris of Rights on May 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

I’m all over that! Let the dems defend this obscenity.

CurtZHP on May 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM

What can Boehner do? He can get off his cowardly, feckless, whiny RINO arse and work to shrink the Leviathan and to KILL Obamacare.

The IRS scandal presents a great opportunity to escalate attacks on Obamacare including slashing its funding.

It doesn’t scare me to report my insurance info to the IRS but it sure as heck pisses me off. I’m fed up with government intrusion in our lives and sick of Liberal paternalism.

Strike now Johnny while the iron is hot.

Charlemagne on May 15, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Well dang you too HA! What did I write that you had to not post my comment eh?

Scrumpy on May 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM

It’s a safe bet you didn’t describe Arabs as “ragheads,” like nonpartisan did last week.

CurtZHP on May 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

The question should be who’s going to be impeached!

MPan on May 15, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Then the answer would be” “Nobody”.

We don’t want him gone. We want him weakened and blowing in the wind…

JohnGalt23 on May 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

“Now, my question isn’t about who’s going to resign. My question is who’s going to jail over this scandal?”

It’s not a scandal, it’s a crime.

antipc on May 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

The best strategy is to drip, drip, drip.

1. Appoint the select committee for Benghazi. Do depositions first, then bring ‘em back for the public hearings.

2. Let Ways and Means start on the IRS case. Have them bring actual victims of the IRS activity to Washington… Franklin Graham would be an excellent place to start.

3. Let the AP bugging with the media for a while. Get them to the point where THEY are demanding hearings.

It takes a lot of time for people to become comfortable with the I-word (see datechguy) for a good rationale.

either orr on May 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Boehners Meme:

The Associated Press ‏@AP 1h

House Speaker John Boehner on the IRS investigation: “My question is, who’s going to jail over this scandal?” http://apne.ws/142S02u -DC
===

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/justice-investigating-irs-targeting-tea-party

canopfor on May 15, 2013 at 11:51 AM

canopfor on May 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

There is a way that Boehner could exercise enormous influence over the disposition of the IRS miscreants the miscreant IRS. He– the House, of which he is the Majority Leader– controls the power of the purse.

How about, instead of just dutifully passing the next continuing resolution or raising the debt ceiling, they take a gimlet-eyed look at some of these rogue agencies and slash a few hundred million: “IRS? We’re not buying it.”

de rigueur on May 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

As for the IRS revelation, Attorney General Eric Holder has ordered a criminal investigation to determine whether anyone at the agency broke the law.

They’re sending The Wolf? That’s all you had to say. I feel better already.

Kenosha Kid on May 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM

who always think socialism would work if only the right people are in charge.

And it never fails that the wrong people are always in charge.

hawkeye54 on May 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM

OT, but it’s all part of the national charlatanic thuggery.

Allow this, and die as a shackled people.

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM

For the record.

I did not curse I did not say anything that prolly hasn’t already been said…

Nuts!

* swoosh *

Scrumpy on May 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM

BOOM BOOM BOOM,the Drums of Resignation/Jail are pounding!!!

canopfor on May 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Wouldn’t this be a good time to cheat on your taxes.

wheelgun on May 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Attorney General Eric Holder has ordered a criminal investigation to determine whether anyone make sure some poor and expendable low level flunky at the agency broke the law.

FIFY

hawkeye54 on May 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM

What I would like to know is, did those conservative groups get their non-profit status?
If not, why not?

Mirimichi on May 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Orwell was a socialist. Not a Soviet-style socialist, but one of those typical European intellectual socialists (England’s full of them…) who always think socialism would work if only the right people are in charge.

CurtZHP on May 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

If you’re asking me to be so pure as to reject Orwell- who called out the absolute evil of the USSR while the NYT was still swooning about it- no thanks.

Bat Chain Puller on May 15, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Boehner said:

“There are laws in place to prevent this type of abuse,” Boehner continued. “Someone made a conscious decision to harass and hold up these requests for tax exempt status. I think we need to know who they are, whether they violated the law. Clearly someone violated the law.”

Now, if the Republicans would apply this same logic to immigration then we’d be getting somewhere.

He can bring a bill to the House floor that dismantles the IRS. And schedule a vote for next week.

Yes, I’m 100% serious.

Chris of Rights on May 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Could, but won’t.

Fenris on May 15, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Uh oh: Meme exploded…..

libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Until they get the contents of the redacted portions of the Treasurer’s Inspector General’s report- which actually describe the triggering events (and likely list WHO triggered the ‘special treatment’, we won’t knoiw who should REALLY pay the price. Until that happens, it’s on Obama’s head.

michaelo on May 15, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Wouldn’t this be a good time to cheat on your taxes.

I would only recommend that if you are a highly recognizable gold star platinum level Obama campaign donor, or a Warren Buffet clone.

hawkeye54 on May 15, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Given all we have seen over the past week, Boehner’s best chance to see his perspective prevail is to call for a special prosecutor in the IRS probe.

Mr. Giuliani, please.

dogsoldier on May 15, 2013 at 12:27 PM

The question is who told them to look into conservative groups backgrounds. Lower level bean counters had orders from somebody and he needs to demand under who’s directive this was.

bhawknine on May 15, 2013 at 12:27 PM

So what can Boehner do?

He can bring a bill to the House floor that dismantles the IRS. And schedule a vote for next week.
Yes, I’m 100% serious.
Chris of Rights on May 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Absolutely right. The tax code is an abomination that no longer serves to raise revenue for legitimate, constitutional government functions but instead serves to manipulate, punish, coerce, and reward personal and corporate behavior.

Congress derives most of its power from the tax code as lobbyists make the pilgrimage to DC seeking favors from their tax overlords. The other major source of Congressional power is regulations. Congress will never voluntarily surrender these powers. Never!

Charlemagne on May 15, 2013 at 12:29 PM

John Boehner. All hat. No cowboy.

oldroy on May 15, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Special Prosecutor is a must. We can’t rely on the idiot Eric “Do You Know How This Makes My People Look” Holder.

slickwillie2001 on May 15, 2013 at 12:30 PM

We might just have to settle for exposing whatever crimes took place in hearings, and let that exposure create its own pressure on the White House to make heads roll.

Create a select committee on IRS intimidation and and hold one set of hearings where the weasels can’t tell different versions of the same story.

Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Uh oh: Meme exploded…..

libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 12:27 PM

YOo mean that Obama is disinterested in what is happening in the government he is supposed to be running and doesn’t know how to govern?

Nope. That’s alive and well. And, it’s your own party that’s disemminating it!

ROFL!

kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM

The tax code is an abomination that no longer serves to raise revenue for legitimate, constitutional government functions but instead serves to manipulate, punish, coerce, and reward personal and corporate behavior.

Naturally, it has its roots in communism. As can be evidenced in your description of its role in serving big government.

hawkeye54 on May 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM

mean that there is effectively ZERO probability of 67 Senators voting to convict Obama, no matter how many laws he breaks.

ITguy on May 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Despite unlikeliness of 16th seed beating #1, you suggest they don’t play? You do what you know is right based upon all of the facts in front of you, regardless of future consequences. If the situation was reversed, do you not think a Dem House would file articles of impeachment against a Rep Pres for this type of outright lies and betrayal? Time to play hard ball.

hillsoftx on May 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Boehner: IRS scandal question is “who’s going to jail?”

Along with all the others he has put into jail…

right2bright on May 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1209257

libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Create a select committee on IRS intimidation and and hold one set of hearings where the weasels can’t tell different versions of the same story.

Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 12:30 PM

In the long run it’s better if they tell different versions. Then you can ask which one, or both, is lying and where they got their information from.

Fenris on May 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Ya know,I do remember when Team Hopey/Changey won his second
term,the Left got awfully cocky about,

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by Jill Lawrence
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=============================================

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canopfor on May 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Talk is cheap.

Kenosha Kid on May 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM

If you’re asking me to be so pure as to reject Orwell- who called out the absolute evil of the USSR while the NYT was still swooning about it- no thanks.

Bat Chain Puller on May 15, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Meant to suggest no such thing. I was rather surprised to hear it myself, given the books the guy wrote.

CurtZHP on May 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Mr. Boehner, just go. You have zero negotiating skills which comports directly to small brass. Oh, so after 5 years of the Democrats using you as their personal bicycle rack accessing you without a whimper, you now come out with a statement like this? This statement is one of conviction and fight so please, do the party a favor and delegate your fictional statement to someone that has proven their bone fides of conviction and can actually get done what they say will get done as IMO you have not.

Tangerinesong on May 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Boner is just distracting away from the big picture.

Valiant on May 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Were any tears shed..?

d1carter on May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM

We might just have to settle for exposing whatever crimes took place in hearings, and let that exposure create its own pressure on the White House to make heads roll.

Wishful thinking. The House is bound to start a whole raft of impeachment proceedings against all the dirtbags involved in this and the tens of other scandals. This includes Barky and most of his cabinet critters. The Senate should be fully occupied running trials of all these criminals – multiple trials for many (most of all Barky) for the many, many crimes they have been committing against America and Americans since the Indonesian Dog-eater first illegitimately slimed into office.

As for Boehner … no one with a brain takes anything that crybaby says seriously. He’s a joke. He should resign and let someone with integrity and guts assume the Speakership. Boehner did his best to stop all investigations into Barky’s illegal acts since he first took the Weepership. He’s a loser. He’s done nothing but help Barky take America apart and colluded with the criminal much of the time. Boehner needs to just remove himself from power (he should leave Congress and go away).

Sadly, even if Barky is rightfully impeached, tossed and even prosecuted criminally and jailed irreparable damage has been done. This is no longer America and the Constitution has been relegated to nothing but a sideshow joke. There is no restoring the Republic. We can only start over, at this point. We have all been shown how simple and easy it is for the feral government to do any damn thing it wants, for the SCOTASS to bless the tyranny and for the media to attack and assault anyone who tries to defend the Rule of Law. We have GOP dipsh!ts trying to push a treasonous plan in giving aid and comfort to an invading enemy – even after Barky had committed, yet another, impeachable act in his supreme dictat regarding who can stay in this nation and who can’t. Instead of pushing an impeachment for that, the idiot GOPers have jumped on board with the treason.

I want a national divorce to be rid of these lowlife primitives and to be able to actually re-establish an American Constitutional Republic with borders.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM

libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Your phone and tax returns are next, moron.

Kenosha Kid on May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1209257

libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

What part of the IRS head confessing to wrong-doing confuses you?

hillsoftx on May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Yes, the House must file articles of impeachment. So what if it doesn’t pass in the Senate. He will still go down in history as being impeached. See Bill Clinton.

Mirimichi on May 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM

libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

I see you linked to DKos…..Yeah, you got
credibility…..no really you do!

keep thinking that anyway….we’ll leave the light on
for you, so your Stupidity can hang it’s hat on the rack.

ToddPA on May 15, 2013 at 12:36 PM

When you lose Rangel:

“We have to give him an opportunity to root out any wrongdoing, whether it’s just negligence or criminal,” Rangel said. “But, for right now, to say that the president should be doubted? No. He has to come forward and give more of an answer than he has done.”

Oh, I think I may have over-followed on Twitter. Since, say, noon yesterday I must have received 10,000 tweets. I’ve had to turn off my smartphone speaker so I can get a break from the noise.

The digital world is on fire right now….I expect the WH to pull the plug on the internet in this time of crisis.

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM

libfreeordie only believes what it’s handlers tell it to believe.

kirkill on May 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Valerie Jarrett will look good in orange…

d1carter on May 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1209257

libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Very interesting! So is it your assertion that the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration lied or “misstated” the problem in his report?

Have you actually even read the report, professor? Surely such a knowledgeable “academic” as yourself understands the need to do basic research of primary sources.

Doomberg on May 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM

The House could vote for an impeachment trial, but conviction requires a 2/3 vote of the Senate.

The combination of 1) party loyalty and 2) racism in Obama’s favor (what Democrat is going to vote in favor of convicting the first black pResident?) mean that there is effectively ZERO probability of 67 Senators voting to convict Obama, no matter how many laws he breaks.

ITguy on May 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM

I keep hearing this argument. So what? If the Senate is going to ignore the Rule of Law then let them do that – over and over and over. Just because the jury is demented doesn’t mean that one lets every crime just go by. Keep sending impeachments to the Senate. At the very least, it will keep the Senate busy and stop them from doing other destructive stuff that they currently fill their time with.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Oh, lets not forget the jewel:

Remember AttackWatch? Is any intrepid investigative reporter brave enough to start sniffing around that travesty to see if it was used to identify people for “special handling”?

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Boehner “trusts” Barack. Boehner played golf with Barack. Boehner made one-on-one deals with Barack.

Would you trust Boehner? I don’t.

madmonkphotog on May 15, 2013 at 12:40 PM

How about exhaustive hearings…and then demand a special prosecutor?

BuckeyeSam on May 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Sweet ironies, from just one week ago

1. One

2. Two

Schadenfreude on May 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Boehner: IRS scandal question is “who’s going to jail?”

O.K., in this one instance, I’ll give the guy props…

John, if ever in your tenure as Speaker, you needed to
put down the Whiskey tumbler, and grow a set, now is it.

I’m with you so far…..

ToddPA on May 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Oh, lets not forget the jewel:

Remember AttackWatch? Is any intrepid investigative reporter brave enough to start sniffing around that travesty to see if it was used to identify people for “special handling”?

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Yep. And let us not forget about that crazy fishy@whinehouse.gov thing back when they were illegally shoving BarkyCare through. They called on people to report anyone who said something “bad” about the un-American, un-Constitutional, asinine, stupid, ridiculous BarkyCare … who would be “straightened out”.

Yeah … all of this same stuff has been going on since the very beginning of this criminal, third-world junta assuming power.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Boehner “trusts” Barack. Boehner played golf with Barack. Boehner made one-on-one deals with Barack.

Would you trust Boehner? I don’t.

madmonkphotog on May 15, 2013 at 12:40 PM

I want to be the guy across the table from Baracks’ largest butt-kissers, and say to them after they come clean “You get nothing. I get that for free”

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Heard an interesting call come in on Edd Hendee’s radio show this morning. One of his reliable lefties called in during his IRS discussion and let us all know he was a retired IRS agent with 34 years behind him. He told us how extremely difficult it is to get fired from civil service as long as the rules were followed.

He claimed no low level agent could decide to audit returns on their own. All audit requests come from above. No surrupticious browsing on the internet is allowed and is one of the fastest and most reliable ways of getting fired and he cited people that got fired for browsing celebrity sites and records. And he readily acknowledged Lois Lerner should be fired because he thought she admitted doing what he knew he would never have been allowed to do. He also said as a manager she would not qualify for civil service protection clauses that are available to lower level employees.

Pretty insightful stuff from a career g’ment lefty.

DanMan on May 15, 2013 at 12:43 PM

John Boehner, when are you going to jail!!?? You are no different than the worst IRS employee or Obama. You have raped the Constitution and partaken in the theft of all citizen’s money (taxes umhmm…revenue). You should spend the rest of your life in jail. Ed, you will never stop trying to make these liberal RINOs look good will you? Keep carrying that water.

air_up_there on May 15, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both

18 USC § 242

Socratease on May 15, 2013 at 12:44 PM

If the situation was reversed, do you not think a Dem House would file articles of impeachment against a Rep Pres for this type of outright lies and betrayal? Time to play hard ball.

hillsoftx on May 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM

The problem with your analogy is that the Dems have not overplayed an impeachment hand in their history. The GOP did, less than 20 years ago. We no longer have the benefit of the doubt on our side…

JohnGalt23 on May 15, 2013 at 12:45 PM

They’re sending The Wolf? That’s all you had to say. I feel better already.

Kenosha Kid on May 15, 2013 at 12:24 PM

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Nice. +1

LincolntheHun on May 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM

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