Quotes of the day

posted at 8:41 pm on May 10, 2013 by Allahpundit

Before Wednesday’s hearing on the attack in Benghazi, Libya, Republicans in Congress promised explosive new details about the administration’s mishandling of the episode. Instead, the hearing showed, yet again, that sober fact-finding is not their mission. Common sense and good judgment have long given way to conspiracy-mongering and a relentless effort to discredit President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton…

The hearing did not prove anything like an administration cover-up or other hysterical allegations of crimes equal to Watergate that some Republicans, such as Representative Steve King and Senator Lindsey Graham, have alleged. Republicans have held numerous hearings and briefings on Benghazi and are threatening to hold even more. It is a level of interest they did not show during George W. Bush’s administration when there were 64 attacks on American diplomatic targets or in the years they spent cutting back diplomatic security budgets.

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The attorney for one of the Benghazi whistleblowers told TheBlaze Radio that he has more people who want to come forward to testify.

Joseph diGenova, attorney for acting Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Counterterrorism Mark Thompson, did not specify how many new witnesses there were, but said they had been “on the ground” and “in the fight” during the September assault that left four Americans dead. Thompson was one of three whistleblowers who went before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday.

“We’ve been contacted by some people on the ground who were there, who were in the fight, who want to come forward but who fear if they do they will never get contract work with the agency again,” diGenova told TheBlaze Radio host Jay Severin on Thursday. “We are going to test the director of central intelligence’s word [that those who testify will not be penalized]. If these people decide they want to come forward, the first thing we’re going to do is go to the director’s office and say here they are, how are you going to protect them?”

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The White House has long maintained that the talking points were drafted almost exclusively by the CIA, a claim that gave cover to both President Obama and his potential successor, Clinton. “Those talking points originated from the intelligence community,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said in November, adding that the only editing by the White House or the State Department was to change the word “consulate” to “diplomatic facility.” The emails prove him wrong. Significant edits to the talking points were discussed at the White House the day before Rice’s appearance on five Sunday shows, said the official familiar with Nuland’s thinking, who added that she did not attend the meeting. As I wrote yesterday (“Why Benghazi is a Blow to Obama and Clinton”), Obama has earned the trust of most Americans but credibility is a fragile thing.

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Democratic strategists and former Clinton aides interviewed about whether the testimony this week from three State Department officials could prove politically damaging blamed right-wing groups for stirring up controversy, even as new information came out suggesting political motivation behind downplaing the terrorist links to the attack. Some of the defenses sounded reminiscent of Clinton’s own famed allegations of a “right-wing conspiracy” in the late-1990s after reports her husband had an affair with Monica Lewinsky.

“It will probably help some right-wing organization build their direct mail list,” said former Clinton campaign adviser Ann Lewis. “Do I think it will change what people think about Hillary Clinton? I think at this point the American public has good perspective on who Hillary Clinton is.”

Asked what political advice he would give Clinton if she were running in 2016, longtime Clinton strategist Paul Begala said her testimony to Congress in January serves her well.

“I think the way she has dealt with this has been admirable. And Republicans are treading awfully close to the tin foil hat,” said Begala.

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Was all this incompetence? Or was it politics disguised as the fog of war? Who called these shots and made these decisions? Who decided to do nothing?

From the day of the attack until this week, the White House spin was too clever by half. In the weeks and months after the attack White House spokesmen said they were investigating the story, an internal review was under way. When the story blew open again, last week, they said it was too far in the past: “Benghazi happened a long time ago.” Jay Carney, the White House press secretary, really said that.

Think of that. They can’t give answers when the story’s fresh because it just happened, they’re looking into it. Eight months later they don’t have anything to say because it all happened so long ago.

Think of how low your opinion of the American people has to be to think you can get away, forever, with that.

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Should Clinton run for and win her party’s nomination for president in 2016 without her role in the Benghazi scandal having been thoroughly litigated in the primaries – where the stakes are far lower and the voters more forgiving – it will reemerge as a general election issue. The Republican nominee would be negligent to not bring up that scandal, her role in it, and whether or not that episode reflects poorly on her judgment as a surveyor of the nation’s security threats…

Clinton has little to fear from her fellow Democrats who may want to throw their hat into the 2016 ring, but she has a lot to gain from their participation in the process. The vetting of potentially damaging issues that will come from a protracted campaign and the ensuing debates would do much to strengthen Clinton’s formidability in the general election. A short campaign that does not extend beyond the early primary states would leave Clinton vulnerable to withering attacks on her competence from the GOP’s eventual nominee.

Benghazi gives Clinton reason to invite her fellow Democrats to challenge her in 2016. The real question then becomes, will her fellow Democrats – who are unlikely to prevail – sacrifice their time, political clout, privacy, and fundraising prowess just to aid Clinton in her quest to succeed Obama in the Oval Office?

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Aspin resigned over Black Hawk Down. The same precedent should have applied apply to Mrs. Clinton. To date, no one has ultimately taken responsibility for Benghazi.

My office is currently seeking out the witnesses and survivors of Benghazi to testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. To date, the Obama administration has refused to let them testify.

Too many questions remain unanswered. Now, there are too many new questions. The evidence we had in January already suggested that Mrs. Clinton ignored repeated requests for more security in Benghazi. The new evidence we have today — and that continues to mount — suggests that at the very least, Mrs. Clinton should never hold high office again.

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Via Greg Hengler.


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wolfsDad on May 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM

Hahahahahahahahahaha!! Too funny!!! Hi wolf :-)

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 12:41 AM

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Thanks schad!

KCB on May 11, 2013 at 12:41 AM

Oh boy my lucky nite!!

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 12:41 AM

Master Schad,

THANK YOU.

Here is a good one too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGt_KpgXymU

SparkPlug on May 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Hi, Scrumpy!

wolfsDad on May 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM

SparkPlug on May 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Thats just…………………. beautiful……

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 12:45 AM

B9, you’ve been fighting tough the last few days. Nice to watch!

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Thx Schad.
I always just say how I feel/think/observe.

I had a little more time..my work server died for a couple days. I usually have to read after the fact.
I don’t always say what is popular/liked..but I try and shoot straight. Appreciate it. I know I can agitate a few. :)

bazil9 on May 11, 2013 at 12:46 AM

SparkPlug on May 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Nice! i wish Axe could hear it….

KCB on May 11, 2013 at 12:46 AM

B9, indeed on all. Don’t change a thing. It’s very effective. Be well.

Sparky that was indeed very nice.

My Silent Cry

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 12:47 AM

how about this?

uncommon sense on May 11, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Gonna call it a night!

KCB on May 11, 2013 at 12:54 AM

New Steyn…

The Benghazi Lie

I’ve updated the timeline, too, with additional information that came out earlier tonight.

Resist We Much on May 11, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Niters, Ken!

Resist We Much on May 11, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Nice! i wish Axe could hear it….

KCB on May 11, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Well Scrumpy put a tracking transmitter in his left ear. He should be able to hear out of the right ear once he gets his puter fixed.

SparkPlug on May 11, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Good night Ken!! God Bless :-)

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Scrumpy doodles is in one of her moods. Watch out for some tricks.

SparkPlug on May 11, 2013 at 12:56 AM

uncommon sense on May 11, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Just makes me wanna move!! I luv that!! Same with traditional Scottish music…

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Goodnight, Ken.

wolfsDad on May 11, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Heavenly………divine!!

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 12:58 AM

SparkPlug on May 11, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Yeah I hope this works!!

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Just makes me wanna move!! I luv that!! Same with traditional Scottish music…

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 12:56 AM

I luvs me heritage! LOL!

uncommon sense on May 11, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Scrumpy, glad you liked it. I hope you feel better and take care of dr. budiness soon. No need to share.

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 1:01 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8xdz92Ij60

Mix of Whale and flute and piano…

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 1:01 AM

I shall :-)… thank you {hugs}

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:02 AM

uncommon sense on May 11, 2013 at 1:00 AM

As you should!! Not so proud of mine tho… brits caused so much strife…

Thank you for sharing :-)

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:04 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b1k4N2ci6E

When Doves Cry

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Nite Ken.

Axe, you are missed.

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 1:05 AM

For Scrumpy

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Beautiful :-D

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:11 AM

oh a waltz!!

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Hey, Scrumpy! Hey B9! Hey Jackie! I just got back home – I left work at 8:30 and decided to blow an evening off!

Recommendation: If you haven’t seen “Ironman 3″ – DEFINITELY GO SEE IT!!

BEST Movie I have seen in a LONG While!

williamg on May 11, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Thank you Schadenfreude {hugs}

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM

williamg on May 11, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Hi williamg! I shall!! Glad you had a wonderful time!!

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM

I Love Adre Rieu!……and if that doesn’t start out with the same melody as “Danny Boy”….then I’m not Irish!

Great Stuff!

williamg on May 11, 2013 at 1:15 AM

Schadenfreude on May 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM

You choose some of the most wonderful music…

I can imagine classical music playing all thru your house!!

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:15 AM

I am going to fly!

Good night to Schad and uncommon and Axe and williamg and Sparky and to whom ever is still here!!

Good Night and Gods Blessings on you all!!

* swoosh *

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:18 AM

My office is currently seeking out the witnesses and survivors of Benghazi to testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. To date, the Obama administration has refused to let them testify.

This is mostly a note to myself, to find out HOW the administration can keep anyone from testifying to the Congress and WHY Congress can’t force them to appear (or maybe the admin really can’t, and the legis really can?).

AesopFan on May 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM

New Steyn…

The Benghazi Lie

I’ve updated the timeline, too, with additional information that came out earlier tonight.

Resist We Much on May 11, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Just wanted to say how much I appreciate all of your effort in pulling together so much important information, on this and so many other topics.
The timeline was totally awesome.

AesopFan on May 11, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 1:18 AM

Nite Scrumpy, sleep well.

uncommon sense on May 11, 2013 at 1:28 AM

My office is currently seeking out the witnesses and survivors of Benghazi to testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. To date, the Obama administration has refused to let them testify.

Sounds like Chicago Obama must be holding them like Cleveland Castro held those women. Maybe they can escape before ten years.

VorDaj on May 11, 2013 at 1:32 AM

What the hell did HRC do at the State Department…anyway?

d1carter on May 10, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Did she even know her mouthpiece Cheryl Mills insisted none of the State Dept employees in Libya talk to the Congressional Delegation? If she didn’t even know THAT happened, then, does she know ANYTHING?

Paul-Cincy on May 10, 2013 at 9:07 PM

No one above second assistant deputy to any Cabinet officer seems to know or do anything in this administration (except lie to Congress, of course).

AesopFan on May 11, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Axe, I really missed you.

I mean, when I tried to shoot an apple off your head, I really missed you. (:

SparkPlug on May 11, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Watergate took nearly two years. And the press hated Nixon.

Happy Nomad on May 10, 2013 at 9:27 PM

June 1972: Break-in

Summer 1973: Senate Hearings

August 1974: Nixon leaves

I’ve been repeating that timeline to some of the impatient folk around here.

INC on May 10, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I was wondering about this earlier, when someone tossed out the idea that this scandal was starting to make Nixon look noble (he wasn’t, but it’s shaping up to be a low bar).

AesopFan on May 11, 2013 at 1:51 AM

nite all

uncommon sense on May 11, 2013 at 2:00 AM

We gotta celebrate…

I won a major victory over my NYC liberal friend!!

He caved!!

All this about Benghazi and the IRS and Gosnell and the lack of media coverage, and my charming self :-D… he has flipped! Will vote for a repub or a con!!

He is so disillusioned with dems and Obama!!!

WOO HOO!!

Scrumpy on May 10, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Just to end with some good news.

AesopFan on May 11, 2013 at 2:13 AM

With all the heat on Benghazi,THIS IS A MIND_BLOWER AND NEEDS COVERAGE ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TEAM SEAL 6,..U.S. Operation call sign Extortion 17!!

Families of slain SEAL Team 6 to blame government for deaths of servicemen
May 9, 2013
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Three families of Navy SEAL Team Six servicemen, along with the family of an Army National Guardsman, plan to appear at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on Thursday, May 9, to “disclose never before revealed information about how and why their sons along with 26 others died in a fatal helicopter crash in Afghanistan” on August 6, 2011, a few months after the raid on the compound that resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden, The Blaze reported.

Thirty-eight people, including seven Afghans and an interpreter, died when the helicopter carrying 25 members of SEAL Team Six and five other Americans, crashed.

According to a press release put out by the families, retired military experts will also appear to explain “how and why the government is as much responsible for the deaths of their sons as is the Taliban.”

Karen Vaughn, mother of fallen Navy Seal of Aaron Carson Vaughn, reacted to Barack Obama’s campaign ad “One Chance” last year. Karen and Billy Vaughn lost their son Aaron, a Navy SEAL, in Afghanistan in 2011.

Out of touch — Rebuke of Clinton and Obama from the heart of a mother

The press release says that areas of inquiry include, but are not limited to:
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How President Obama and Vice President Biden, having disclosed on May 4, 2011, that Navy SEAL Team VI carried out the successful raid on Bin Laden’s compound resulting in the master terrorist’s death, put a retaliatory target on the backs of the fallen heroes.

*How and why high-level military officials sent these Navy SEAL Team VI heroes into battle without special operations aviation and proper air support.

*How and why middle-level military brass carries out too many ill-prepared missions to boost their standing with top-level military brass and the Commander-in-Chief in order that they can be promoted.

*How the military restricts special operations servicemen and others from engaging in timely return fire when fired upon by the Taliban and other terrorist groups and interests, thus jeopardizing the servicemen’s lives.

*How and why the denial of requested pre-assault fire may have contributed to the shoot down of the Navy SEAL Team VI helicopter and the death of these special operations servicemen.

*How Afghani forces accompanying the Navy SEAL Team VI servicemen on the helicopter were not properly vetted and how they possibly disclosed classified information to the Taliban about the mission, resulting in the shoot down of the helicopter.

*How military brass, while prohibiting any mention of a Judeo-Christian God, invited a Muslim cleric to the funeral for the fallen Navy SEAL Team VI heroes who disparaged in Arabic the memory of these servicemen by damning them as infidels to Allah. A video of the Muslim cleric’s “prayer” will be shown with a certified translation.

According to Jason Howerton, the press conference “has not been highly publicized.”

“This press conference takes on special significance given that our government has over the last twelve years since September 11th committed brave American servicemen to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that, in large part as a result of politics, were poorly conceived of and implemented, resulting in the deaths of thousands and the maiming of tens of thousands of our brave heroes. To make matters even worse, America has effectively lost these wars,” said Larry Klayman, legal counsel for the families.

The press conference also comes on the heels of a House hearing on the Benghazi terror attack that left Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead.

Video of one mother’s reaction to Obama’s campaign ad “One Chance” can be seen here.

http://www.examiner.com/article/families-of-slain-seal-team-6-to-blame-government-for-deaths-of-servicemen
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TrentoVision 5.9.13 – Navy SEAL Extortion 17 EXPOSED – Obama Failures
Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtJrJ40Cio&feature=youtu.be
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2011 Chinook shootdown in Afghanistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Chinook_shootdown_in_Afghanistan

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 2:48 AM

“4th Best Country Band In St. Louis”

http://www.gumbopages.com/uncle-tupelo.html

williamg on May 11, 2013 at 3:03 AM

TEAM SEAL 6 Extortion 17!!

Demanding the truth about Extortion 17
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Destroying our country, our military and our very existence
Friday, May 10, 2013
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How many Americans have heard of Extortion 17? Extortion 17 was the call sign for the Chinook helicopter shot down in Afghanistan on the night of August 6, 2011. Killed in that crash were 25 special ops forces, including 15 members of Seal Team 6, 5 national Guard troops and 8 Afghans.

Today, the families of the military killed in that crash held a press conference to lay out the coverup by Obama and the military that has gone on since that crash. The video of the press conference can be found here.

I watched the live stream of the press conference, admittedly crying throughout. Then the point came that the tears turned into white hot anger. Every American citizen must watch this video. The major Obama regime coverups did not occur only in Fast and Furious, the New Black Panther voter intimidation case and Benghazi. The man sitting in OUR White house is methodically destroying our country, our military and our very existence.

Islamist Imam praying over our soldiers at Bagram Air Base
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At the beginning of the video is footage of the Islamist Imam praying over our soldiers at Bagram Air Base.
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Of course he prays in Arabic,

but in the English translation
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he sent our heroes into eternal hell as infidels
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while praising the Islamist relationship with our country.

You read that right,
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and our Government and our military let that happen.
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his operation reads like a set up from the beginning. All the Special Ops forces were packed into one National Guard Chinook.

There was no escort for the Seals that night,

no pathfinder,

and conveniently the “eye in the sky” (drone) didn’t work.

The seven members of the Afghan military that were to accompany our service members

were switched out

just prior to take off.

The names of the seven Afghans appearing on the flight manifesto were not the seven that boarded that helicopter on the night of August 6, 2011.

Apparently the call to switch out these seven Afghans was made by an

“out of theater” commander.

To this day, no one has come forward identifying that commander. America needs to demand an answer to that question. Remember, prior to this crash, Barack Obama and Joe Biden had identified Seal Team 6 as the forces that killed Osama Bin Laden. One has to ask, “were they a trade off for Bin Laden?”

n October 2011, US Central Command (CENTCOM) announced that an investigation carried out following the shoot down concluded “that all operational decisions, linked to the incident, were deemed tactically sound” and the helicopter crashed after a RPG round impacted the aft rotor assembly.

While the Obama administration was busy spinning the coverup, other reports were surfacing that the Taliban had laid an elaborate trap for U.S. special operations forces, luring them in with false information. A senior Afghan government official, speaking anonymously, said that Taliban commander Qari Tahir had fed U.S. forces false information about a meeting of insurgent leaders and fighters waited for the helicopter from both sides of a steep valley: “The Taliban knew which route the helicopter would take. That’s the only route, so they took position on either side of the valley on mountains and as the helicopter approached, they attacked it with rockets and other modern weapons. It was brought down by multiple shots.”

It was heart wrenching listening to Karen Vaughn, a mother who lost her only son. He was a proud member of Seal Team 6. She is angry that current rules of engagement put her son’s life, and that of every son and daughter serving in the military today in grave danger. She demanded to know if reaching the hearts and minds of Muslim extremists is more important than her son’s life. She also expressed anger at the form letters the President keeps sending out when our children are killed.

Her husband, Billy Vaughn, recounted the visit they received from Admiral William McRaven, who was apparently sent to put a lid on their inquiries. The Admiral was the head of the Joint Strategic Objectives Plan (JSOP), as well as runner up for Time’s Man of the Year in 2011.

As the Vaughns are residents of Florida, they also approached Sen. Marco Rubio to enlist his assistance in their quest for answers. Sen. Rubio told him he would talk to his new BFF, John McCain, and see what they could do. Mr. Vaughn’s response was “No, thank you, I’ll do it myself, I don’t trust John McCain or the GOP establishment to pursue this.

Doug Hamburger, another grieving father has questioned why no interviews were done with Afghan Command or military in compiling the 1,250 page official report.

Charles and MaryAnn Strange lost their 25-year-old son, who had been a Navy Seal for 6 years. Mr. Strange made inquiries as to the whereabouts of the black box. He was told it washed away in a flood. His response was, “in Afghanistan?” After repeated questions, Mr. Strange was told everything was in “the book”. After requesting a copy of said book, he was presented with a book with no ink in it. When he questioned this and requested a true copy, he was told the original had been burned. They were then given a disk. Unfortunately for Mr. and Mrs. Strange, the disk was full of white outs.

Also present at the press conference was retired Admiral James Lyons. Admiral Lyons has a distinguished 36-year Naval career, mot recently as Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet. Admiral Lyons has also called for an answer to the question, “who made the decision to put them all on one helicopter”? He stated emphatically that this mission was compromised as the Taliban knew we were coming. The Admiral stated emphatically this was a dereliction of duty just like Benghazi; not to come to the aid of our people is unconscionable.

Joining the press conference were Army Major General Paul Vallely, General Tom MacInerney, Lt. Colonel Allen West, former Seals, Benjamin Smith and Larry Bailey and Act for America’s Brigitte Gabriel. From all of them came an admonition and dire warning that the American people must wake up and realize who the true enemy is: Islamist Jihadists. They are all unanimous in the belief we are being destroyed from within. Former Seal Benjamin Smith went so far as to say he believes Barack Obama is guilty of treason. I share that belief.

A recurring theme during this press conference was that we, the American people, must stand together and demand a Congressional hearing into Extortion 17. To date, only three of our House Representatives, Michelle Bachman, Louis Gohmert and Trent Franks have been actively working to assist the family members. Unfortunately, the same Congress that held a hearing to address drug usage in the NFL, has no interest in holding hearings to get to the bottom of what actually happened on the night of August 6, 2011 and the ensuing cover up.

It’s up to “We the People” to demand a hearing and help the families of our fallen heroes get the answers they rightfully deserve. Please not only watch this video, but make sure it goes viral. Then pick up the phone and call your Representative in Congress and demand a Congressional hearing. Keep calling until that hearing is scheduled. We’ve kept up the pressure on Benghazi. These families deserve no less from us.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/55097

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 4:02 AM

Team SEAL 6 Helicopter DeBackle!

SEAL Mom:
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“This is Submission and the Cost of that Submission on August 6 was My Only Son”
May 9, 2013
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I’ve said before that the Rules of Engagement are a much bigger scandal than Benghazi. I don’t have much else to say, except watch this video. Find an Obama supporter who still has some sense of right and wrong and show them this video.

VIDEO:(5:24)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL08VtXMNao

“The hearts and minds of the enemy are more valuable to this government than my son’s blood. This is submission and the cost of that submission on August 6 was my only son.”
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http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/seal-mom-this-is-submission-and-the-cost-of-that-submission-on-august-6-was-my-only-son/

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 4:28 AM

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 4:28 AM

I’d have to agree with that Mom. I’ve been out going on two years now and we worked under that roe that she’s talking about. My friends still in say it even worse now. Commanders are losing their careers and are afraid to let their guys return fire even in defense.

smoothsailing on May 11, 2013 at 4:36 AM

TEAM SEAL 6 Helicopter ShootDown!!

Families say Muslim cleric disparaged dead Navy SEALS at their own funeral
6:02 PM 05/09/2013
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VIDEO:(2:00)

Relatives of Navy SEALs who died when their helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan in August 2011 spoke at a press conference Thursday to condemn the Obama administration and claim that the U.S. military presented a Muslim cleric at the dead SEALs’ funeral who disparaged “sinners and infidels who are fodder for the hell fire.”

FreedomWatch president Larry Klayman, the attorney representing the families, claimed at the press conference, which Republican Rep. Michelle Bachmann of Minnesota and former Florida Republican Rep. Allen West also attended, that the U.S. military presented an anti-American speaker at the SEALs’ 2011 funeral.

Klayman presented video footage of the SEALs’ military funeral at Bagram Airfield, which featured a Muslim prayer. The prayer, according to Klayman and the families, disparaged the fallen SEALs

“It’s a complete disgrace, a complete desecration. Nobody from the military has apologized for it, nobody from the Obama administration has apologized for it,” Klayman told The Daily Caller.

“This administration has set the tone for the military. They’re following Obama’s lead,” Klayman told TheDC. “Is this Obama’s Muslim outreach?”

“The funeral that was held in Kabul where you couldn’t even mention the name of our lord and savior Jesus Christ and yet a Muslim cleric gets up and damns these fallen heroes to Hell as infidels. Unbelievable that our military brass would allow this to happen,” Klayman said at the press conference.

Klayman’s presentation, which a translator present at the press conference helped prepare, claimed that the cleric’s prayer, translated from Arabic, said the following:

“Amen. I shelter in Allah from the devil who has been cast with stones.

In the name of Allah the merciful forgiver.
The companions of “THE FIRE”
(The sinners and infidels who are fodder for the hell fire)
ARE NOT EQUAL WITH the companions of heaven.

The companions of heaven (Muslims) are the WINNERS.
Had he sent this Koran to the mountain, you would have seen the mountain prostrated in fear of Allah.

(Mocking the GOD of Moses)

Such examples are what we present to the people, so that they would think.
(repent and convert to Islam)

Blessings are to your God (Allah) the God of glory and what they describe.

And peace be upon the messengers (prophets) and thanks be to Allah the lord of both universes (mankind and Jinn).”

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/09/families-say-muslim-cleric-disparaged-dead-navy-seals-at-their-own-funeral/

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 5:20 AM

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 4:28 AM

I’d have to agree with that Mom. I’ve been out going on two years now and we worked under that roe that she’s talking about. My friends still in say it even worse now. Commanders are losing their careers and are afraid to let their guys return fire even in defense.

smoothsailing on May 11, 2013 at 4:36 AM

smoothsailing:

Exactly,I stumbled on this,and its EXPLOSIVE,
and this was another Obama Administration SNAFU!

A Congressional Hearing needs to be Demanded ASAP!:)

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 5:23 AM

Navy Seal Team VI families to reveal government’s culpability in death of their sons in fatal helicopter crash in Afghanistan foll
owing Successful Raid On Bin Laden’s Compound

DATE: MAY 9, 2013
PLACE: NATIONAL PRESS CLUB (HOLEMAN LOUNGE)
529 14th Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20045
TIME: 10 AM – 11 AM
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(Washington, D.C.). Three families of Navy SEAL Team VI special forces servicemen, along with one family of an Army National Guardsman, will appear at a press conference on May 9, 2013, to disclose never before revealed information about how and why their sons along with 26 others died in a fatal helicopter crash in Afghanistan on August 6, 2011, just a few months after the successful raid on the compound of Osama Bin Laden that resulted in the master terrorist’s death.

Accompanying the families of these dead Navy SEAL Team VI special operations servicemen will be retired military experts verifying their accounts of how and why the government is as much responsible for the deaths of their sons as is the Taliban.

The areas of inquiry at the press conference will include but not be limited to:

How President Obama and Vice President Biden, having disclosed on May 4, 2011, that Navy Seal Team VI carried out the successful raid on Bin Laden’s compound resulting in the master terrorist’s death, put a retaliatory target on the backs of the fallen heroes.

How and why high-level military officials sent these Navy SEAL Team VI heroes into battle without special operations aviation and proper air support.

How and why middle level military brass carries out too many ill-prepared missions to boost their standing with top-level military brass and the Commander-in-Chief in order that they can be promoted.

How the military restricts special operations servicemen and others from engaging in timely return fire when fired upon by the Taliban and other terrorist groups and interests, thus jeopardizing the servicemen’s lives.

How and why the denial of requested pre-assault fire may have contributed to the shoot down of the Navy SEAL Team VI helicopter and the death of these special operations servicemen.

How Afghani forces accompanying the Navy SEAL Team VI servicemen on the helicopter were not properly vetted and how they possibly disclosed classified information to the Taliban about the mission, resulting in the shoot down of the helicopter.

How military brass, while prohibiting any mention of a Judeo-Christian God, invited a Muslim cleric to the funeral for the fallen Navy SEAL Team VI heroes who disparaged in Arabic the memory of these servicemen by damning them as infidels to Allah. A video of the Muslim cleric’s “prayer” will be shown with a certified translation.

“This press conference takes on special significance given that our government has over the last twelve years since September 11 committed brave American servicemen to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which, in large part as a result of politics, were poorly conceived of and implemented, resulting in the deaths of thousands and the maiming of tens of thousands of our brave heroes. To make matters even worse, America has effectively lost these wars,” stated Larry Klayman, legal counsel for the families.

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/navy-seal-team-vi-families-to-reveal-government-s-culpabilit

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 5:37 AM

Thanks for those links canopfor. I’ll be watching those stories.

smoothsailing on May 11, 2013 at 5:46 AM

Thanks for those links canopfor. I’ll be watching those stories.

smoothsailing on May 11, 2013 at 5:46 AM

smoothsailing:

Anytime,I hope this picks up steam,as its another
CoverUp Stain,of the Hopey/Changey Transparency
B.S!!:)

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 6:15 AM

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 5:37 AM

You forgot to add how Pakistani complaints about US compromise of their sovereignty during the Osama raid suddenly quieted down after the crash.

Cleombrotus on May 11, 2013 at 6:53 AM

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 5:37 AM

You forgot to add how Pakistani complaints about US compromise of their sovereignty during the Osama raid suddenly quieted down after the crash.

Cleombrotus on May 11, 2013 at 6:53 AM

Cleombrotus:

Excellent point and observation,the Benghazi/Extortion 17,reeks
to High Heaven!:)

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Think of how low your opinion of the American people has to be to think you can get away, forever, with that.

Think of how accurate their lowly opinion of the American people is? Who would be loopy enough to return these Chicago anti-freedom socialists to power, except folks who love lust, deviancy, free lunches, guilt free abortions, sloth, racism, envy of the successful, the God haters, the gun grabbers, the degenerate failures, the illegals…?

Don L on May 11, 2013 at 7:34 AM

OT: I was flipping channels on cable this morning.

MSNBC’s 8:00 am show, Up with some clown, is leading with a huge segment on death-row politics highlighting three recent cases–the AZ case (guilty, but penalty phase pending), the Boston bombing (trial far into the future), and the Cleveland case (trial far into the future). Gosnell–no word breathed.

This segment isn’t even about the three recent cases. It’s about the iffy convictions for capital crimes.

Benghazi? What Benghazi?

IRS going after conservatives? What abuse of power?

BuckeyeSam on May 11, 2013 at 8:09 AM

,the Benghazi/Extortion 17,reeks
to High Heaven!:)

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Absolutely. I think we grossly underestimate the depths of depravity and moral corruption in this administration and its hangers-on.

Cleombrotus on May 11, 2013 at 8:28 AM

I am a direct person.

- Susan Rice
“Little White Lies, Bald-Faced Lies, and Benghazi”
My take.

kingsjester on May 11, 2013 at 8:32 AM

LIVE NOW!!

Video: Spacewalk to troubleshoot ISS ammonia leak

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 8:42 AM

It is of the highest importance in the art of detection to be able to recognize, out of a number of facts, which are incidental and which vital, otherwise your energy and attention must be dissipated instead of being concentrated. (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)

It is our Army generals who have been exposed to all but their most Three Monkeys of Oblivion supporters as Perfumed Pimps masquerading as Generals who have no regard for America and it’s Constitution or their own troops and who are all out sons-of-#itches, traitors, and chronic dhimmis! And THEY, not Manning, are the ones who have gotten thousands of their own troops lifeless and limbless for nothing but their own egos and their see no Islam, hear no Islam, speak no Islam, know no Islam, career uber alles anti-Americanism. And as if all this wasn’t enough, they, not manning, at the very least acquiesced to the abandonment of 30 Americans at Benghazi and are now part of the cover up.

VorDaj on May 11, 2013 at 8:47 AM

The President of the United States intentionally lied about the murders of American citizens to further hia own Political/Religious Ideology and Political Machinations.-Kingsjester

Could it be worse than that? Who gave the “stand down” order?

indypat on May 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM

I don’t get it. How can so much of the MSM be in this administration’s pocket. How much money does Soros have? Enough to risk permanent marginalization?

Limpet6 on May 11, 2013 at 9:31 AM

canopfor on May 11, 2013

….thanks Canada!

KOOLAID2 on May 11, 2013 at 9:36 AM

The hearing did not prove anything like an administration cover-up or other hysterical allegations of crimes equal to Watergate that some Republicans, such as Representative Steve King and Senator Lindsey Graham, have alleged.

Equal to Watergate, a bungled, third rate burglary in which nobody died? Are they kidding? On what planet are they even in the same ball park? Where is Bob Woodward when a Democrat administration royally screws up and four people are murdered by terrorists? If this were a Republican administration, the faux outrage would be all over the LSM. Instead, they either shoot the messenger or crickets… Incredible, just incredible.

College Prof on May 11, 2013 at 9:36 AM

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 5:37 AM

You forgot to add how Pakistani complaints about US compromise of their sovereignty during the Osama raid suddenly quieted down after the crash.

Cleombrotus on May 11, 2013 at 6:53 AM

Cleombrotus:

Excellent point and observation, the Benghazi/Extortion 17, reeks to High Heaven!:)

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 7:12 AM

This whole story makes me sick.

Fallon on May 11, 2013 at 9:46 AM

canopfor on May 11, 2013

Thanks good buddy!!! You are always on the ball with the real issues!! I thank you for all you do!!

God Bless YOU!! :-)

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 11:12 AM

canopfor on May 11, 2013

Thanks good buddy!!! You are always on the ball with the real issues!! I thank you for all you do!!

God Bless YOU!! :-)

Scrumpy on May 11, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Scrumpy:Anytime——————–:)

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 12:01 PM

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 7:12 AM

This whole story makes me sick.

Fallon on May 11, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Fallon:

Yuppers,there seems to be no end,in screw-ups,under Hopey’s
Watch:)

canopfor on May 11, 2013 at 12:02 PM

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