Benghazi – what’s new?

posted at 8:01 am on May 9, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Not much, if you listen to apologists for the White House and State Department, even after the testimony of two previously-excluded whistleblowers yesterday at a House Oversight Committee hearing on the Benghazi attack that killed four Americans.  Glenn Kessler, the Washington Post fact-checker, says that while some of what was said has already come out — somewhat reluctantly — there were in fact some new revelations.  And even what we know think as established fact has new angles that carry some big implications.

For instance, let’s look at the demonstration run amok vs terrorist attack narrative issue.  Kessler points out that we have known for months that there was no demonstration at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack.  Earlier reports said that confusion may have come from a lack of information combined with demonstrations in other countries in the region.  What’s new, Kessler points out, is Hicks’ testimony that he spoke directly with Hillary Clinton on the night of the attack and briefed her:

So it is not new that there was no protest. That’s been officially well established. It is also not new that many officials knew it was a terrorist attack.

What is new is that Hicks has put a human face on previous reporting. He also disclosed he spoke directly to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton the night of the attack, presumably relaying his conclusions.

The hearings also revealed an e-mail written by Elizabeth Jones, the acting assistant secretary for Near Eastern Affairs, in which she recounted a conversation with the Libyan ambassador on Sept. 12: “When he said his government suspected that former Gadhafi regime elements carried out the attacks, I told him that the group that conducted the attacks Ansar Al Sharia is affiliated with Islamic terrorists.”

One generally presumes that top government officials have access to classified information and firsthand accounts not available to the media. But in this case either their judgments were colored by media accounts as well — or they took advantage of the media’s reporting to obscure some politically difficult news.

Kessler’s avoiding a conclusion here.  If the State Department thinks CNN has better info in Atlanta than its own people on the ground in Libya, then why bother having people on the ground at all?

There’s also the matter of Susan Rice directly contradicting the Libyan president on the nature of the attacks on September 16th.  By that time, everyone should have known it was a terrorist attack, but Rice went on five talk shows to blame it on a demonstration.  Meanwhile, Mohamed Yusuf al-Magariaf went on American television to correctly state that terrorists had conducted the attack, and he even knew who they were.  That rebuke from an American diplomat had a direct impact on the US ability to investigate the issue, and on al-Magariaf’s ability to lead:

While the political fallout long has been clear from Rice’s appearance on the Sunday shows, what’s new is Hicks’ description of the diplomatic impact — that Libyan cooperation into the probe was greatly hindered because the president of Libya, Mohamed Yusuf al-Magariaf, who also appeared on Face the Nation, was so angry that Rice disagreed with his description of a “preplanned” attack.

Magariaf was “insulted in front of his own people,” Hicks said. “His credibility was reduced. His ability to lead his country was damaged.”

Hicks’ description of his reaction to Rice’s comments — “I was stunned. My jaw dropped. And I was embarrassed” — is also rather telling, given that previously administration officials had asserted that Rice’s remarks reflected a consensus that no one would dispute at the time.

Another witness attacked the integrity of the Accountability Review Board, on which apologists relied yesterday, calling it an attempt to cover up for the top brass:

Nordstrom suggested the board’s report attempted to protect higher-ranking officials, and specifically faulted it for not looking at the key role played by Under Secretary for Management Patrick Kennedy in failing to deliver the request for more security to Clinton.

He said a similar failure occurred in the 1998 bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kenya, which killed 19 Americans.

“[The ARB] has decided to fix responsibility on the assistant secretary level and below,” said Nordstrom. “And the message to my colleagues is that if you’re above a certain level, no matter what your decision is no one’s going to question it.

“I look back and I see the last time we had a major attack was East Africa. Who was in that same position, when the unheeded messengers … were raising those concerns? It just so happens it was the same person. The under secretary for management was in that same role before.

“There’s something apparently wrong with the process of how those security recommendations are raised to the secretary.”

There was also the matter of the State Department’s counterterrorism chief, who got cut out of the Benghazi loop almost immediately after the attack began:

Thompson described how his request for a specialized emergency response team was rebuffed by officials at the White House. He said he got the idea the officials weren’t sure what was happening in Benghazi and therefore weren’t sure if the “FEST” team of special operations forces and intelligence personnel was a suitable option.

Thompson was told FEST wasn’t “on the menu“:

Mr. Thompson, the deputy coordinator for operations, testified that he thought the U.S. needed to activate an interagency advisory group called the Foreign Emergency Support Team, but was told that top State Department officials had already determined that sending the team wasn’t “in the menu of options.”

The State Department has said that the team, based in the U.S., wouldn’t have arrived in Libya in time to make any difference. Daniel Benjamin, the head of counterterrorism at the time of the September attacks and Mr. Thompson’s former boss, has said that the question of whether to deploy the team was posed early, and the State Department made the correct decision against sending it.

But that presumed that State knew at the moment just how long the attack would last:

[Thompson] also said he considered the response inadequate because “one definition of a crisis is you do not know what’s going to happen in two hours.”

So yes, there was quite a bit new at the hearing — and all of it pointing to a political whitewash during and after the attack.  What’s not new is the apologists’ refrain:


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“Right wing Hacks” – HAL

Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 8:03 AM

“Obama cares” – nonpartisan

Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 8:03 AM

“I don’t care, Obama is awesome” – HAL

Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM

What HAL won’t say: We need a Special Prosecutor.

hillsoftx on May 9, 2013 at 8:08 AM

So yes, there was quite a bit new at the hearing — and all of it pointing to a political whitewash during and after the attack. What’s not new is the apologists’ refrain:

That pretty much sums it up nicely. The hearings were not even over before Dana Milbank was out there complaining that the GOP was rehashing the same old stuff in an effort to get to Shrillary.

The GOP needs to keep the heat on because the Dems are scared to death of this issue (which they tried to bury) and there is clearly a whitewash.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Magariaf was “insulted in front of his own people,” Hicks said. “His credibility was reduced. His ability to lead his country was damaged.”

Something like this couldn’t happen to Obama..
Obviously Magariaf needs better media in Libya.

Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Nothing to see here
-lsm

Nice wrap up Ed

cmsinaz on May 9, 2013 at 8:09 AM

“‘Why does Hicks hate women like Hillary Clinton?’

“Hi! This is your host Chris Matthews. Tonight we will explore the roots of Hicks’ misogyny, and what that means for the GOP witch hunt against Hillary Clinton over the right-wing politicization where Republican sequester cuts caused the accidental deaths of four Americans including the ambassador to Libya…”

Liam on May 9, 2013 at 8:12 AM

1) Dems on committee blathering about lack of funding when they know in OCT it was entered into evidence lack of funding was NOT a problem
2) Dems also yammered about no immediate fighter support in proximity when they know in fact the timeline of how long this might last was unknown
3) Dems bloviated about ARB report when they knew as fact 1 of the 3 WB’s info was not even considered for the report.

Those were the ONLY 3 areas of focus yesterday. Complete weak tea. Bring on the Special Prosecutor.

hillsoftx on May 9, 2013 at 8:13 AM

This is clearly a vast right wing conspiracy…./s

Oil Can on May 9, 2013 at 8:14 AM

” Need more money ” Democrats. Again and as always !

Jabberwock on May 9, 2013 at 8:15 AM

If a scandal happens, and it isn’t reported,………did it happen?

PappyD61 on May 9, 2013 at 8:15 AM

What HAL won’t say: We need a Special Prosecutor.

hillsoftx on May 9, 2013 at 8:08 AM

If there was one, the media would make him the focus of the story like they did to Ken Starr. There would be probing insightful questions like, “At what age did he say his first bad word?” Or, “Did he ever dip a girl’s pigtail in an inkwell?”

Liam on May 9, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Someone needs to answer who called our allies in the region during the attack for help. If they cannot, then they are admitting the obama administration failed to protect its own.

Zaggs on May 9, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Over $3.5 Trillion in spending every year, isn’t enough to provide security for the White House gun-running operations in Libya????

Who knew, right?

PappyD61 on May 9, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Hilary looks awful.

I know the dems say she is next in line and Rush says she will be protected at all costs. But she is not a visually appealing candidate – and all those blue collar conservative democrats who have kids serving in the military are not impressed.

I know everyone says she is the nominee and next president – if she runs she may not get the nomination, and if she does, she will not win. Visuals sell – and she has none.

Zomcon JEM on May 9, 2013 at 8:17 AM

So what is the status of the internet video creator? Are the Feds still in his face?

Limerick on May 9, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Ron Johnson’s question to Hillary Clinton was when she knew that this was an attack on the Consulate in Benghazi. Hillary’s Answer was the now infamous “Honestly, what difference at this point, does it make?”

We now know the whore knew instantly what this was and she lied her ass off for days as did Susan Rice and the rat-eared coward. They all need to fry.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM

I know everyone says she is the nominee and next president – if she runs she may not get the nomination, and if she does, she will not win. Visuals sell – and she has none.

Zomcon JEM on May 9, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Now, now..
The beauty is within..

*Excuse me for a moment*
I will be right back..

Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Zomcon JEM on May 9, 2013 at 8:17 AM

I don’t think the Dems have any choice but to run her. Who else do they have — Biden? That would be the logical nominee, since he’s the VP. But even Dems know he’s too stupid to make a good impression during something as big as a presidential election.

Liam on May 9, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Distractions. Happened a long time ago. What difference does it make?

They all know the implications…and the possibilities of major blowback…so…minimize the problem. Draw focus to present or future issues…thus shirk actual responsibility…and not lose sight of the long range goals….make promises…set dreams…keep hope alive…be progressive.

You know, they are still using Alinsky as a guide….and this late stage in the game…how many on the right and in the middle have ever heard of Rules for Radicals? They are predictable. Totally.

But, many many Americans actually believe or want to believe their promises of a wonderful new world…unicorns and skittles…so they ignore events that upset that dream. Many Americans cannot believe how destructive the Left is, how much a danger they pose…so they go along…willingly…and accept that it is that evil conservative Right that is the real danger. Hell, the left could form up and march into Poland, today, and most Americans would join in an sing them along…flags and banners waving…ein volk, ein reich, ein Fuehrer… Can’t we all just get along? Mohammedans are peaceful..it is only a miniscule small number who are radical…and they are radical because those evil conservatives are not nice enough to them…sound familiar? So long as they control the script…that is all that matters.

We warned folks…years ago…but were called racist, nasty little Hitlers, troglodytes…evil…and were marginalized, too often by our own side.

Benghazi? For most Americans? Who cares?

I want an increase in my social security…free health care…more money on my EBT card…a new free phone…want to punish those evil rich people…but not Beyonce, or Jay Z…

Rant mode off…I’ve got other things to do today…

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 8:21 AM

So what is the status of the internet video creator? Are the Feds still in his face?

Limerick on May 9, 2013 at 8:18 AM

From what I heard..
The feds are allowing him to make a follow-up video..
There is this thing in Syria going on….

/

Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 8:21 AM

No mention of Killary perjury when she was before Congress the first time around? The woman stone-cold lied to protect her own inglorious and shabby self.

Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Hey, let’s hear from Billary and Susan Rice… under oath.

Billary was knowingly lying when she denied it was a coordinated terrorist attack and blamed the video. In fact, it was likely she and Axelrod/Jarrett who decided to push the video theory.

petefrt on May 9, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Limerick on May 9, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Still in jail…serving his sentence. Got him or some sort of parole violation or tax thing…can’t recall which. No access to the media…or internet.

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Over $3.5 Trillion in spending every year, isn’t enough to provide security for the White House gun-running operations in Libya????

Who knew, right?

PappyD61 on May 9, 2013 at 8:17 AM

And we can’t get air support over Libya during the eight hours the consulate was under attack despite having a Naval Air Station at Siganella, an Air Base at Aviano, and a carrier in the Med? WTF???

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Average flight time for London (LHR) to Tripoli 3 hrs 32 mins.

http://www.cheapflights.co.uk/flights/Tripoli/Heathrow/

Fallon on May 9, 2013 at 8:23 AM

I checked the top stories and top political stories and Google and Bing and nothing is going on with Benghazi. But I found out in “top stories” that Oakland’s police chief is taking a medical retirement and Gabby Giffords is still favoring gun control.

forest on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 AM

The woman stone-cold lied to protect her own inglorious and shabby self.

Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Now, now…
She just had brain surgery…
She was not responsible for what she said..

/

Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 AM

Didn’t Obama give a speech at the UN blaming the attacks on the vidio, knowing it was total BS? Why is noone talking about that?

steel guy on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 AM

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

Genuine on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 AM

+1 liam @8:12

Perfect

cmsinaz on May 9, 2013 at 8:25 AM

I don’t think the Dems have any choice but to run her. Who else do they have — Biden?

Liam on May 9, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Make a note of this because I know that I am not wrong.

The Dems are planning on running the angry shaved Yeti who keeps screaming “Let’s Move.”

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:25 AM

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Thanks. I knew he had legal issues other than the film. The boy’s life is his to answer for but the Fed should be made to answer for hauling him in on witchcraft charges.

Limerick on May 9, 2013 at 8:25 AM

No mention of Killary perjury when she was before Congress the first time around? The woman stone-cold lied to protect her own inglorious and shabby self.

Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Some folks responded she wasn’t under oath round one…

hillsoftx on May 9, 2013 at 8:26 AM

“guys out for a walk who decided to go kill some Americans”

If you wanted to remove Hillary from future politics, you would play that clip of her refusal to acknowledge that it was terrorists. A simple video collage of Hillary’s insidiousness and her hateful demeanor played ad-nausuem would be enough to remove her from any further political contention.

Rode Werk on May 9, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Aircraft from all those bases were from between an hour or so to a couple hours away.

Never asked…never answered…probably never will be…but who at the White House ordered General Ham, C110/CIF, and the commander of SOC-Africom to stand down? That order was not issued by some junior lieutenant CQ somewhere…nor by some nameless faceless civilian over at State.

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Why is noone talking about that?

steel guy on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 AM

“Even if we do everything perfectly, there will still be glitches and bumps, That’s pretty much true of every government program that’s ever been set up.”

Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 8:28 AM

EG on fire this am
Lol

cmsinaz on May 9, 2013 at 8:28 AM

The boy’s life is his to answer for but the Fed should be made to answer for hauling him in on witchcraft charges to cover up yet another Muslim attack on America.

Limerick on May 9, 2013 at 8:25 AM

FIFY

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Never asked…never answered…probably never will be…but who at the White House ordered General Ham, C110/CIF, and the commander of SOC-Africom to stand down? That order was not issued by some junior lieutenant CQ somewhere…nor by some nameless faceless civilian over at State.

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Of course the order didn’t come from even an O-6. This was Panetta in coordination with the rat-eared coward and the pig-in-a-pantsuit. There are protocols to these things and you do not fly rescue ops over Benghazi without the highest levels knowing about it. Usually they say yes.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:32 AM

ABC/Diane Sawyer last night did this story in two mins. The entire focus of their coverage was how sad the death of the ambassador was and followed up with the Reps politicizing the investigation. Not one of the talking points in Ed’s piece was put up for mom and pop to ponder on.

Limerick on May 9, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Some folks responded she wasn’t under oath round one…

hillsoftx on May 9, 2013 at 8:26 AM

I would respond that my kids aren’t put under oath when I ask them questions but if they lie it’s doom for them, so why would we expect any less of the SoS and a future POTUS contender.

Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 8:32 AM

No wait, I found something is a news roundup aggregation that may be about Benghazi. the headline is a bit cryptic, but if you already know who “Hicks” is, you can figure out what it’s about.

“Sanford and Hicks go to Congress,the CIA goes to Hollywood and CNN stays put”

Which links to this headline: Partisan Politics, Little new Info at Benghazi Hearing – Please do not Read this Article or our Paper Because There’s Nothing to See Here

It covers Cummings accusations and reactions to the testimony without covering the details of the testimony. Very confusing. Maybe the editor decided to remove the actual news content so it would fit in the paper.

forest on May 9, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Didn’t Obama give a speech at the UN blaming the attacks on the vidio, knowing it was total BS? Why is noone talking about that?

steel guy on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 AM

It’s mentioned by conservative pundits in places like FoxNews, but the focus at the hearings has been on Susan Rice and the administration as a whole. Which I’m fine with since we now know that it was Rice’s lies on the Sunday morning shows that had a direct impact on the FBI’s ability to get to the scene of the attack.

Doughboy on May 9, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Rode werk… will the gop have the cajones to show it

cmsinaz on May 9, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Didn’t Obama give a speech at the UN blaming the attacks on the vidio, knowing it was total BS?

steel guy on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 AM

Yep, Obama was in there lying with the rest of them, natchurly.

Rode Werk on May 9, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Even if these hearings never escape the LSM blackout, still the political ammo being generated for the 2016 campaign is priceless.

petefrt on May 9, 2013 at 8:36 AM

The entire focus of their coverage was how sad the death of the ambassador was and followed up with the Reps politicizing the investigation.

Limerick on May 9, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Christopher Stevens didn’t die. He was sodomized, killed, and his body was dragged through the streets of Benghazi by Muslims. I really think we need to keep emphasizing that point as the enemy like Representative Cummings suggests that Stevens and the others left this world peacefully in old age or something. They died because they were Americans doing the business of this nation for an administration that betrayed them because a filthy socialist rat-eared bastard wanted to win an election.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Limerick those low information voters are screwed

cmsinaz on May 9, 2013 at 8:38 AM

What’s the problem? Death is part of life. This whole made up controversy is just a right wing plot to discredit the greatest leader the world has ever known. It will not succeed because nobody can suppress the awesomeness of BO the light bringer.

Dr. Frank Enstine on May 9, 2013 at 8:39 AM

I would respond that my kids aren’t put under oath when I ask them questions but if they lie it’s doom for them, so why would we expect any less of the SoS and a future POTUS contender.

Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Your kids don’t get to negotiate the terms in which they leave their deathbeds to answer questions they’ve been stonewalling for months because of their “super-important job.”

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Hicks’ description of his reaction to Rice’s comments — “I was stunned. My jaw dropped. And I was embarrassed” — is also rather telling, given that previously administration officials had asserted that Rice’s remarks reflected a consensus that no one would dispute at the time.

Reflected a consensus? Is Kessler attempting to lead us to believe direct talking points were not delivered to Susan Rice? Information that was supplied to the State Dept was redacted and edited to supply this distorted narrative, there was no damned consensus!

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Representative Cummings suggests that Stevens and the others left this world peacefully in old age or something.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:36 AM

He’s reported to have said ‘death is a part of life’. Can you imagine? The man is a shameless tool.

petefrt on May 9, 2013 at 8:41 AM

“Death is a part of life”

Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Even if these hearings never escape the LSM blackout, still the political ammo being generated for the 2016 campaign is priceless.

petefrt on May 9, 2013 at 8:36 AM

And what makes you think it will ever be used??

I can think of one or two individuals on our side who
would use it……

ToddPA on May 9, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Hopefully some GOP’er brings up the fact that ol’ Susie Rice wouldn’t have peddled such a stupid tale about YT vids unless directed and allowed from higher up.

What a stinking mess this administration is, I’m amazed how so many losers managed to collect in one group at the same time to oversee the nation. Seriously, what are the odds that EVERY SINGLE PERSON in Bark’s group would be a narcissistic jackass, I mean every one.

Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 8:45 AM

“Death is a part of life”

Minimize. Distract. Change the focus. Control the script.

There would be no Benghazi “problem” if it were not for those nasty right wingers making a big deal out of it….for political reasons.

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Sarah Palin posted on her Facebook Page yesterday,

Is there any wonder why distrust of arrogant, out-of-touch media is at an all-time high? During today’s Benghazi hearings, the Washington Post actually tweeted: “Who’s tweeting about Benghazi? Rich, middle-aged men and Chick-fil-A lovers.” This would be the same Washington Post that broke the story on Watergate. Now they just mock concerned Americans who want answers to why four brave Americans died, including two distinguished vets. And the Obama administration asks, “What does it matter?”

he media should be ashamed of themselves. My take.

kingsjester on May 9, 2013 at 8:48 AM

He’s reported to have said ‘death is a part of life’. Can you imagine? The man is a shameless tool.

petefrt on May 9, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Shameless tool isn’t the first thing that comes to my mind but there are filters in place at HA that precludes me from providing an honest assessment of the filthy bastard from Maryland.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Hugh Hewitt @hughhewitt

Next hearing –hopefully by House Select Committee–should feature Cheryl Mills, Beth Jones, unnamed State lawyer and Col Gibson #Benghazi
4:10 PM – 8 May 2013
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Hugh Hewitt is spot on.

Naturally Curly on May 9, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Great link Forest.

The Baltimore Sun article was actually picked up from the LA Times. The rag of a paper is trying to double down on its liberal idiocy before the Koch brothers clean house.

Bensonofben on May 9, 2013 at 8:50 AM

So, what difference does it make?
So, what difference does it make?
It makes none But now you have gone
And you must be looking very old tonight

The devil will find work for idle hands to do
I stole and I lied, and why? Because you asked me to
But now you make me feel so ashamed Because I’ve only got two hands Well, I’m still fond of you, oh ho oh

But no more apologies No more, no more apologies
Oh, I’m too taahhrd’, I’m so sick and tired
And I’m feelin’ very sick and ill today
But I’m still fond of you, oh ho oh

forest on May 9, 2013 at 8:52 AM

In fine Orwellian doublespeak tradition, “new” news will be dismissed as “old” news until it actually becomes old news.

farsighted on May 9, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Maybe I need another cup of coffee, but I can’t picture the scenario in which a primary opponent of Hill’s can bring up Benghazi without striking horrible blows to the Ds and the admin.
What an exercise that would be !

pambi on May 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Christopher Stevens didn’t die. He was sodomized, killed, and his body was dragged through the streets of Benghazi by Muslims. I really think we need to keep emphasizing that point as the enemy like Representative Cummings suggests that Stevens and the others left this world peacefully in old age or something. They died because they were Americans doing the business of this nation for an administration that betrayed them because a filthy socialist rat-eared bastard wanted to win an election.

Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Well, not according to SoS Killery. She said this…

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81108_Page2.html

From page two:

Everywhere Chris and his team went in Libya, in a country scarred by war and tyranny, they were hailed as friends and partners. And when the attack came yesterday, Libyans stood and fought to defend our post. Some were wounded. Libyans carried Chris’ body to the hospital, and they helped rescue and lead other Americans to safety.
INC on May 8, 2013 at 7:08 PM

You see, Hicks got that whole terrorist thingy wrong when he told the witch at 2:00 AM who had the Ambassador! /

(Thanks again INC for finding that for me)

texgal on May 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Our old pal Doc Zero posed a pretty good question:

John Hayward ‏@Doc_0 1m
If Hillary Clinton was under fire, would the Administration attitude have been, “We can’t get there in time to help, so don’t even try?”

And……would Obama have just gone to bed?

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 8:56 AM

If Obama were in charge?

Ring,Ring…”

“Um, dammit 3 a.m.. Hello?”

“Umhum….I see. Hillary who?”

“Who was it, Barry?”

“Nothing, Chelle…not important. But today is gonna be a goood day. Oh, yes. it is.”

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Even if these hearings never escape the LSM blackout, still the political ammo being generated for the 2016 campaign is priceless.

petefrt on May 9, 2013 at 8:36 AM

… and it’ll have the same value as all of the legitimate political ammo we’ve had against Obama for years now – none.

In the landscape we now inhabit – country half populated with liberal half-wits and dependent teat-sucklers, a feeble and complicit GOP eager to slit its own throat with amnesty and other suicidal policies, and a media that is nakedly part of the DNC, it won’t matter.

Midas on May 9, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Oh…you silly wingnuts, don’t you know this is all…

…based on the unsupported assertion of one, right-wing partisan who has a vested interest in muddying the waters on behalf of her client.

“All the subtly of a flying mallet.”

chumpThreads on April 30, 2013 at 8:02 AM

/moron mode

bigmacdaddy on May 9, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Hugh Hewitt @hughhewitt

Next hearing –hopefully by House Select Committee–should feature Cheryl Mills, Beth Jones, unnamed State lawyer and Col Gibson #Benghazi
4:10 PM – 8 May 2013
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Hugh Hewitt is spot on.

Naturally Curly on May 9, 2013 at 8:50 AM

After listening y’day for 5 hrs, I think they need to add Patrick Kennedy and Shillary to that list…

hillsoftx on May 9, 2013 at 9:08 AM

I have 3 comments after following much of yesterday.

1. I smell fear at the White House, particularly w/ Jay Carney. This has tones of Watergate all over it.

2. GOP congressman are getting trapped on TV by details of the special lawyer sent to babysit the diplomat during the Chavetz visit. They simply need to say that if the Administration was telling the truth, there was no need for ANY babysitting of career State Department or other governmental officials – election or no election in 8 weeks. “If they were telling the truth, there would be no need to babysit anyone.”

3. Everyone should be calling their congressmen and senators of both parties to raise Hell about this blatant cover up.

matthew8787 on May 9, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Where was the President that night? There’s no WH itinerary. Panetta claim he didn’t talk to Obama the rest of the night and Hillary said she didn’t talk to the President either. The President just happened to wake up the next morning and oops — 4 dead and 30 wounded.

journeymike on May 9, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Kessler points out that we have known for months that there was no demonstration at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack. Earlier reports said that confusion may have come from a lack of information combined with demonstrations in other countries in the region.

Demonstrators don’t bring the kind of weapons which were used to attack the Consulate. The Obama Administration knew from the moment of the attack that it was the work of terrorists. There was no confusion. There were only lies, which are continuing and will continue for years to come.

Basilsbest on May 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Chuckie Todd bashing gop for attacking Hillary

cmsinaz on May 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM

What did Obama know and when did he know it?

What decisions did Obama make and when did he make them?

farsighted on May 9, 2013 at 9:14 AM

So what is the status of the internet video creator? Are the Feds still in his face?

Limerick on May 9, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Well, he’s still in jail. Does that answer your question?

UnderstandingisPower on May 9, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Our old pal Doc Zero posed a pretty good question:

John Hayward ‏@Doc_0 1m
If Hillary Clinton was under fire, would the Administration attitude have been, “We can’t get there in time to help, so don’t even try?”
And……would Obama have just gone to bed?

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 8:56 AM

A damn fine question that is !

And one those tasked in the “rescue industry” need to be aware of.

The Administration, via all the testimony, has effective issueed a “Living Will” to all overseas employees. Complete with the “no heroic efforts” and “do not reccesitate” clauses.

Must be pretty chilling to work overseas at this moment in time.

Jabberwock on May 9, 2013 at 9:14 AM

The headline & lead in our our local (McClatchy) paper reflects the dem/msm line of attack, but also how little they have to stand on:

Politics Dominate Benghazi Hearings
A much anticipated congressional hearing Wednesday on the September 2012 attacks on U.S. diplomatic compounds in Benghazi, Libya, produced no major revelations but plenty of partisan fireworks as Republicans renewed charges that the Obama administration had covered up details of what took place while Democrats retorted that politics is driving the GOP-run investigation.

If there was any real debate going on, it would be “…while Democrats retorted that there were no mistakes & cover-up because XYZ“. As it is, all the dems have is name-calling and accusations about GOP motivations. Yet, the media eats it up…

KS Rex on May 9, 2013 at 9:14 AM

I still can’t believe that this whole thing did not sink Obama in the last election. Sorry, guys, but if this didn’t sink Obama in ’12, I don’t think it will sink Clinton in ’16. About 47% of Americans desperately want to ignore terrorism, and they certainly don’t care if a Clinton lies to them; they just want their Obamaphones and their ‘free’ healthcare. Sorry, I am pessimistic before I have had a full cup of coffee.

bitsy on May 9, 2013 at 9:15 AM

matthew8787 on May 9, 2013 at 9:08 AM

That “babysitting” is a necessary function of the Administration’s desire/plan to nail these whistle blowers, not for whistle blowing (that’d be illegal, of course) but for violating Title 18, US Code 1905 or similar. Why do you think only one of their attorneys has been granted clearance and only at the Confidential level? No TS/SCI clearance will be granted. Thus…any conversation of the whistle blower and attorney above Confidential…is a violation of Title 18…and the “babysitter” is there to document it.

Subtle intimidation….but still intimidation…and I’d wager 99% of Americans, perhaps 90% of Congress, hasn’t the slightest clue.

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 9:16 AM

And then he went to Las Vegas. To raise money. How does one express esuch deeply felt contempt for this regime?

MTF on May 9, 2013 at 9:17 AM

http://www.cheapflights.co.uk/flights/Tripoli/Heathrow/

Fallon on May 9, 2013 at 8:23 AM

From Spain, or the med it’s even faster. There were people in Tripoli! Why weren’t they ordered to steal a plane if necessary?

Or let’s play this a different way. I only know that if other people were president, the order would and should be, find a way to save those people, I don’t care what you have to do, I’ll deal with the politics.

Everyone know this is the correct response from the President, yet this lowlife decided to let these people die and calmly went to bed.

dogsoldier on May 9, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Christopher Stevens didn’t die. He was sodomized, killed, and his body was dragged through the streets of Benghazi by Muslims.
Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 8:36 AM

And we still haven’t done a single thing in response. Not one. single. thing.

tommyboy on May 9, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Hillary is toast.

It doesn’t matter if the press won’t report it, campaigners will.

Obama’s Reality Distortion Field won’t protect her.

itsspideyman on May 9, 2013 at 9:18 AM

journeymike on May 9, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Date night @ JZ’s

gonnjos on May 9, 2013 at 9:21 AM

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Well, yes, but that is not my point. My point is that our side is getting needlessly tied in knots when responding to this part of the story.

“If they were telling the truth, why would they need any babysitter with career officials?”

matthew8787 on May 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Trey Gowdy just told Bill Hemmer that there are additional whistleblowers warming up in the bullpen. So when is the next hearing? I hope not six months from now, though I realize they need time to depose them and prepare.

We need a Special Prosecutor NOW.

Naturally Curly on May 9, 2013 at 9:24 AM

I loathe these people more with each breath I take…

ladyingray on May 9, 2013 at 9:24 AM

What’s the problem? Death is part of life.

Dr. Frank Enstine on May 9, 2013 at 8:39 AM

I don’t think sodomization is part of life.

BTW, if death is part of life, is the fetus at the point of conception part of life as well?

gonnjos on May 9, 2013 at 9:25 AM

A damn fine question that is !

And one those tasked in the “rescue industry” need to be aware of.
Jabberwock on May 9, 2013 at 9:14 AM

The Vice President was also skeptical about ordering military forces to stand down once the attacks began.
‘I’ve heard senior officials in the Obama administration say, “well, we didn’t know what we’d be sending them into, so we didn’t send ‘em.” Hogwash!’ Cheney exclaimed. ‘Those guys train for that. They’re damned good at it.’

There’s a big difference between training and waiting for orders to rescue our heroes—orders that never came.

Rovin on May 9, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Other than the date what did Orwell get wrong? His prescience is really quite breathtaking.

tommyboy on May 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM

The administration’s response the the 9/11 attacks in Benghazi is permanently damaging to the credibility of the United States as a world leader.

“What’s the difference?”–former Sec. of State Hillary Clinton

Indeed.

Stepan on May 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM

We need a Special Prosecutor NOW.

Naturally Curly on May 9, 2013 at 9:24 AM

YES we do!

I loathe these people more with each breath I take…

ladyingray on May 9, 2013 at 9:24 AM

I wholeheartedly concur!

texgal on May 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Yah, no one bothered to tiptoe up to Bark’s room to whisper, “Excuse me, Mr. Preznit, one of our embassies was overrun and the ambassador murdered?”

If so why did the Dog Eater not cancel everything the next day, if not then why not. Is this one of those “Nobody wanted to wake the Fuhrer to tell him that France was being invaded” things, don’t disturb the emperor when he’s sleeping?

Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Hillary is toast.

It doesn’t matter if the press won’t report it, campaigners will.

Obama’s Reality Distortion Field won’t protect her.

itsspideyman on May 9, 2013 at 9:18 AM

All they need to show is a commercial of Hillary as “President” answering that 3am phone call….then hanging up, in fear, as you hear someone on the other end of the phone yelling “We’re under attack! We’re under attack! Send help now!”

Game over.

WisRich on May 9, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Hillary is toast.

It doesn’t matter if the press won’t report it, campaigners will.

If anyone is going to dump this slop on Hillary, it will be Biden. He still has plenty of friends in the media, and he is already running for president.

Obama won’t lift a finger to help Hillary.

That’s the ultimate irony on this: Obama needed the Clintons more than the Clintons need him. There was no reason for Hillary to concoct a lie and cover-up to defend Obama 8 weeks b4 the election; the Clintons had more than done their part at the Convention (and her not challenging Obama in the primaries, which BJ wanted to do).

If Hillary thought plotting and participating in this cover-up would get her some long-term assistance from Bam-Bam, she is greatly mistaken.

matthew8787 on May 9, 2013 at 9:28 AM

coldwarrior on May 9, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Could this be solved w/ a blanket grant of immunity from prosecution of that section of the code should the administration continue to hamper efforts of Congress to perform their oversight duties?

gonnjos on May 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Hillary is responsible for the lack of security.

Hillary let it slide.
Four brave diplomats died.

Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2013 at 9:33 AM

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