Benghazi witness: “The YouTube video was a non-event in Libya”

posted at 2:41 pm on May 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Examiner. John Sexton had a nice post at Breitbart.com yesterday weighing the evidence, pro and con, for the “movie backlash” theory of the attack. Verdict: Yes, there were people at the scene who mentioned the movie when a camera was stuck in their faces, but no, there’s no hard evidence that the attack itself was driven by the movie. Here’s what the AP had to say about it last year:

It began around nightfall on Sept. 11 with around 150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants, sealing off the streets leading to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. They set up roadblocks with pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, according to witnesses.

The trucks bore the logo of Ansar al-Shariah, a powerful local group of Islamist militants who worked with the municipal government to manage security in Benghazi, the main city in eastern Libya and birthplace of the uprising last year that ousted Moammar Gadhafi after a 42-year dictatorship.

There was no sign of a spontaneous protest against an American-made movie denigrating Islam’s Prophet Muhammad. But a lawyer passing by the scene said he saw the militants gathering around 20 youths from nearby to chant against the film. Within an hour or so, the assault began, guns blazing as the militants blasted into the compound.

We know now that at least three of the attackers were bona fide members of Al Qaeda’s franchise in Yemen, apart from the various Libyans at the scene associated with Ansar al-Sharia and similar groups. You make the call: Does a huge, hardcore jihadi crew like that, armed with heavy machine guns and sufficiently well organized to put up roadblocks, pull an attack together quickly in response to their outrageous outrage over a movie or was the bit in the excerpt about forcing people to chant an opportunistic exploitation of some Muslim grievance? Before deciding, remember that Stevens and his advisors warned State repeatedly over the summer of a growing jihadi presence in and around Benghazi and that they feared the consulate might come under attack. That’s the core of the outrage over State’s refusal to boost security. There was every reason to believe an attack would come, movie pretext or no movie pretext. So why was the White House so interested in blaming the movie early on?

By the way, has any media followed up on what Tyrone Woods’s father told Glenn Beck about what Hillary said to him? Did she really vow that the filmmaker would be punished? Or, because that claim came from a ghettoized media outlet, is it not worth pursuing?


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Hillary Clinton=Liar
Joe Biden=Liar

tom daschle concerned on May 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Yes, there were people at the scene who mentioned the movie when a camera was stuck in their faces

See? Obama was right!

but no, there’s no hard evidence that the attack itself was driven by the movie.

Irrelevant. As was shown earlier, Obama was right. No more needs to be said here.

Liam on May 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Forget this let’s focus on jodi arias and the girls from Cleveland

Ugh

cmsinaz on May 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM

By the way, has any media followed up on what Tyrone Woods’s father told Glenn Beck about what Hillary said to him? Did she really vow that the filmmaker would be punished? Or, because that claim came from a ghettoized media outlet, is it not worth pursuing?

Hillary was saying to momma that there wasn’t no ways that shes was gonna take the fall for this one……

ted c on May 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Then WHY is the filmmaker STILL in jail?!

UnderstandingisPower on May 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM

During lunch I flip the channel over to msnbc and they had the hearings on BUT they were talking/telling us what we should take from the testimony. they never once put the sound from the hearings on……

spin, rinse…..repeat

DiabloAzure on May 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM

New thread…

… Kewl!

Seven Percent Solution on May 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Forget this let’s focus on jodi arias and the girls from Cleveland

Ugh

cmsinaz on May 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Verdict expected at 4:30.

In the meantime…

Doesn’t Kim Kardashian and her baby bump look fabulous in her sequined evening gown? It only cost $5 to make in china, but she got it at the the cut-rate price of $30,000! Isn’t she frugal — a fine example to all women?

You really need to prioritize here, lady. :-)

Liam on May 8, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Now it’s the Libyian government’s fault…

O_o

Seven Percent Solution on May 8, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Now it’s the Libyian government’s fault…

O_o

Seven Percent Solution on May 8, 2013 at 2:54 PM

I’m surprised they’re not trying to blame Israel yet.

Liam on May 8, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Hillary Clinton=Liar
Joe Biden=Liar

tom daschle concerned on May 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM

LOL! They’re Democrats, so that’s one of the prerequisites.

kirkill on May 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM

That youtube video guy never makes any noise which makes me think he’s playing a willing patsy part in an operation. No lawyers making noise on his behalf.

Buddahpundit on May 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM

UnderstandingisPower on May 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Why is he in jail?

Basseley Nakoula is a Coptic Christian. Can’t have those kind of people running around causing problems for the Egyptian Mohammedan Brotherhood, now, can we? Maybe because he doesn’t believe the most beautiful sound in the world is the Muslim call to prayer?

coldwarrior on May 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Another missed opportunity. Hicks asked to respond to HRC’s “What difference does it make” comment and cites impact on Libya President, FBI investigation and Libya’s embarrassment.

I give up.

wyntre on May 8, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Lol liam

So sad though… the media is throwing out every squirrel in order not to talk about this

cmsinaz on May 8, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Within 24 hours and beyond, for a week or two at least…

The admin concluded this was the most plausible explanation — A video on YouTube spontaneously enraged a Muslim mob into murderous action.

While rejecting this explanation as implausible — There was pre-planned terrorist attack on US diplomatic personnel in an Arab country on anniversary of 9/11.

What would Orwell say?

farsighted on May 8, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Wtf wyntre @3:00
Shaking the head

cmsinaz on May 8, 2013 at 3:04 PM

How many people were killed in rioting after the Obama/Clinton youtube video ad campaign?

Ben Hur on May 8, 2013 at 3:05 PM

cmsinaz on May 8, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Maybe someone should poll the gay view and leak the results. Teblowershat should get the media’s attention!

Headline: “Gays disbelieve the whistleblowers by a margin of 2 to 1 — They didn’t blow enough whistles.”

(ALL puns intended!)

Liam on May 8, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Sorry for the typos, cmsinaz.

Liam on May 8, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Fitting events to their perceptions instead of fitting events to facts. Typical of the donks.

Limerick on May 8, 2013 at 3:08 PM

What would Orwell say?

farsighted on May 8, 2013 at 3:00 PM

We have never been at war with Eastasia???

Funny thing…when in high school, later in college, when we read 1984, the teachers made a point of it being about far-right conservatives and the danger they posed. Is still being touted as a warning against far-right fascism.

Even though Orwell was speaking of fascism on the Mussolini model…the state being supreme…and the leader was portrayed as was Mussolini..benevolent protector of the people.

Not exactly a conservative idea, even back then.

We are closer to 1984 today than we were back in 1984.

coldwarrior on May 8, 2013 at 3:08 PM

That youtube video guy never makes any noise which makes me think he’s playing a willing patsy part in an operation. No lawyers making noise on his behalf.

Buddahpundit on May 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM

“Making noise” does not constitute “good behavior.” I’m sure he has been reminded of the importance of “good behavior” when it comes to actual time to be served.

iurockhead on May 8, 2013 at 3:09 PM

So, do the donks all get talking points as to what they can say/not say at these hearings?

Blake on May 8, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Oh jeezus. WTF is Issa doing? He’s asking if Nordstron was planning on bringing his wife to Libya (after “normalization) and comments she must be glad to have him home.

WTF kind of comment is that? Issa has shown his cards. Smoke, mirrors and performance art. Fiddling along as the POS burns Rome.

wyntre on May 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Lol Liam

:)

cmsinaz on May 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Hillary Clinton=Liar
Joe Biden=Liar

tom daschle concerned on May 8, 2013 at 2:44

Entire Administration-EFFING LIARS

ToddPA on May 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Sighing in relief and wiping a sweaty brow.

Aria verdict results at 4:30.

It’s over, folks. No one’s covering the Hearings.

wyntre on May 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Oh jeezus. WTF is Issa doing? He’s asking if Nordstron was planning on bringing his wife to Libya (after “normalization) and comments she must be glad to have him home.

WTF kind of comment is that? Issa has shown his cards. Smoke, mirrors and performance art. Fiddling along as the POS burns Rome.

wyntre on May 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM

It would be a dog and pony show, except all they have are jackazzes.

Liam on May 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM

There was no sign of a spontaneous protest against an American-made movie denigrating Islam’s Prophet Muhammad.

In any event, Innocence of Muslims – which was a smart piece of biting satire – did not “denigrate” mo. The video was pretty much true to the history of mo as accepted by muzzies. The video just showed the idiocy of the perverted, stupid, barbaric, aggressive, violent political ideology of islam and the muslims are embarrassed by the truth of the ideology they follow like sheep.

Next thing you know someone saying that muzzies are forced to kiss the ground in five sets a day every single day to remind themselves that they are insignificant pieces of cannon fodder for the ummah to use in its quest for world domination will bring a charge of denigrating being forced to kiss the ground for five sets a day, every single day. They’ll defend their ground kissing by saying that the magic carpet makes kissing the ground an enjoyable experience …. yeah …

For anyone who hasn’t seen the Innocence of Muslims trailer I highly recommend it. Very funny. And fairly well done, too. Shrillary and the rest of the idiots tried to claim that it was so poorly produced but the fact is that it was about the same quality as an SNL skit, which lefties seem to think represent nothing short of genius (at least, relatively speaking, for them).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 8, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Looks like everyone’s got the memo. Wall to wall Arias coverage followed by wall to wall kidnappee coverage and by the time that’s done Benghazi will once again be a distant (and permanent) memory.

Media is the enemy.

wyntre on May 8, 2013 at 3:23 PM

On my Facebook page I put the question,Who is Ben Gazi and 6 people said they thought it was the guy on the old TV show The Fugitive.

docflash on May 8, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Yepper wyntre

cmsinaz on May 8, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Media is the enemy.

wyntre on May 8, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Truth of the Day.

+1

Liam on May 8, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Why is the film maker in jail? First I can’t find any information that he is in jail. The big thing is if the film was so important then why is it still available on youtube but no one in the world seems to care?

jpcpt03 on May 8, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Hillary Clinton=Liar
Joe Biden=Liar

tom daschle concerned on May 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Obama = Dear Liar

Galt2009 on May 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM

I’m waiting for Hillary to be thrown under the bus before this goes any higher up.

Jocundus on May 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Benghazi witness: “The YouTube video was a non-event in Libya”

There is a twitter account named johnWlindh, with a picture of American Jihadi John Walker Lindh.

Whether or not John Walker Lindh himself is in any way connected to account, the account itself appears to be controlled by a Jihadist.

Take note of the tweet:

https://twitter.com/johnWlindh/status/329367469779189760

Note which YouTube videos the Jihadi links as justification for Jihad… and note that the YouTube video made by this filmaker is NOT one of them.

The two YouTube videos the Jihadi linked have a lot more in common with John Kerry than they do with political prisoner filmaker Nakoula Basseley Nakoula.

ITguy on May 8, 2013 at 5:12 PM

I’m waiting for Hillary to be thrown under the bus before this goes any higher up.

Jocundus on May 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM

…the short bus!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2013 at 8:11 PM