Schumer: It’s time to go after the 3-D printable guns

posted at 2:41 pm on May 7, 2013 by Allahpundit

An inevitable follow-up to last night’s item about “the Liberator,” the schematics for which have already been downloaded more than 50,000 times in just a day online. The good news for Schumer and other gun-grabbers? The feds already have a way to go after plastic guns. The bad news? The relevant statute is set to expire soon.

I … did not foresee 2014 being dominated by Mike Bloomberg ads about the evils of weapons that look like Fisher-Price toys, but this is the world we have, my friends.

The senator also proposed updating the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988 — which bans guns that can defeat airport security metal detectors — to include printable gun magazines. Defense Distributed has a federal firearms manufacturers license, which Wilson sought after being questioned by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in 2012. That was shortly after a 3-D printer Wilson had rented was seized by its manufacturer over worries he’d violate the Undetectable Firearms Act. The law, which is set to expire this year, exempts licensed manufacturers to produce plastic guns for use as a models and prototypes.

“There’s no reason for a rifle receiver or a magazine to be, quote unquote, detectable,” Wilson says. “And to make this even worse, they’ll say: well it’s okay for manufacturers to make an undetectable receiver, but it’s just not okay for you to make it. It’s an attempt to regulate some gun parts under the guise of security.”

Actually, Defense Distributed has already figured out a way to make “the Liberator” comply with the Undetectable Firearms Act:

It is a legal firearm provided you include a key component — a heavy slug of steel. The first part of the instructions DD provides addresses that slug:

“Print (ONLY) the frame sideways (the shortest dimension is the Z axis). …

“Once the frame is finished, epoxy a 1.19×1.19×0.99″ block of steel in the 1.2×1.2×1.0″ hole in front of the trigger guard. …

“Once the epoxy has tried, the steel is no longer removable, and is an integral part of the frame. Now your gun has ~6 ounces of steel and is thus considered a ‘detectable’ firearm. So now you can print all the other parts.”

With the steel slug embedded in the frame, the gun will ping metal detectors, which means you’re good to go — sort of. That excerpt comes from a piece in The Atlantic chronicling the author’s attempt to download and print a working “Liberator” … in New York City. Among the many logistical barriers are local firearm laws, the scarcity of 3-D printers, the extra expense of making sure the material’s dense enough so that it won’t explode in your hand, and the fact that it’s cheaper and easier to either build a zip gun from materials at the hardware store or simply buy one that’s professionally made from a dealer. The fear here is in the technology’s potential to build reliable, accurate weapons at next to no cost, but that future appears to be a long way off.

The political battle isn’t, though. Watching this, I wonder if the GOP will use the Undetectable Firearms Act as some sort of hedge against voting for other gun regulations. I.e. they’ll vote to renew it — I think — but then cite that vote as proof that they’ve done their duty on “common sense” gun regulations and hope that it placates the people who are after Ayotte and Flake to cave on background checks. But who knows? Maybe Paul, Cruz, and Lee will draw the line on renewing the Act on Second Amendment grounds and this’ll play out the same way the Toomey/Manchin vote did, with the NRA rallying behind them and then other Republicans falling in line. I doubt it after all the Ayotte/Flake angst, but stay tuned.


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Capitalist Hog on May 7, 2013 at 2:42 PM

…as does Hair Club for Men.

Capitalist Hog on May 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM

“This is so beyond the pale that I think that even the extremists will have trouble getting people to take their point of view here.”

You’re right, Senator – your gun-grabbing instincts are so very beyond the pale, and even the most zealous anti-Constitutional gun-grabbing extremists *ought* to have trouble sharing your point of view here.

Unfortunately, they are as mind-numbingly stupid as you are evil.

Go f*ck yourself, you bastard.

Midas on May 7, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Or you could also just buy a real gun. It’s not that hard.

JohnBrown on May 7, 2013 at 2:45 PM

what, no pressure cookers?

crrr6 on May 7, 2013 at 2:47 PM

There’s a long history of Commies hating printers.

Might make for some good messaging and b-roll for clever commercials from an opposition party with some balls.

aquaviva on May 7, 2013 at 2:47 PM

“This is so beyond the pale that I think that even the extremists will have trouble getting people to take their point of view here.”

And 10 years from now when we find out a law banning these items is unenforceable? Is Schumer’s stupidity ever beyond the pale?

NotCoach on May 7, 2013 at 2:47 PM

This Commie is, literally, a greaseball.

I’m upwards of 90% of the Congressional and media Commies, that I can’t even look at.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 7, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Among the many logistical barriers are local firearm laws, the scarcity of 3-D printers, the extra expense of making sure the material’s dense enough so that it won’t explode in your hand, and the fact that it’s cheaper and easier to either build a zip gun from materials at the hardware store or simply buy one that’s professionally made from a dealer. The fear here is in the technology’s potential to build reliable, accurate weapons at next to no cost, but that future appears to be a long way off.

I’m sure the first light bulbs were really expensive too.

CurtZHP on May 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM

original
rehash w extended suset

Capitalist Hog on May 7, 2013 at 2:50 PM

they’ll vote to renew it — I think — but then cite that vote as proof that they’ve done their duty on “common sense” gun regulations and hope that it placates the people who

AP, you’ve missed a major point here. These people will *never* be placated until there is a blanket gun ban.

This is a perfect example of “uh-oh, someone came up with something–quick, ban it before it gets popular!”

There’s no rational reason to ban this. Criminals aren’t going to flock to this technology, and law-abiding citizens aren’t going to need it. And it’s ugly. This is just Schumer wanting to ban anything gun-related.

Mohonri on May 7, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Go ahead, Senator, ban the ubiquitous. There’s a plan.

M240H on May 7, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Background checks for 3d printers in 5..4…3

cmsinaz on May 7, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Or you could also just buy a real gun. It’s not that hard.

JohnBrown on May 7, 2013 at 2:45 PM

For how long?

The whole furor over “undetectable” firearms is a crock and always has been. Until you can produce a bullet dense enough to do significant damage – but not made of metal – and a caseless propellant that works well enough, you can’t truly make an “undetectable” gun. Of course, the whole issue is a way to avoid dealing with the actual problem in these cases, which is the criminal individual(s) involved, not their tool of choice.

Oh, and let’s not forget the scanners in airports are *not* metal detectors anymore – they will spot this gun just as quickly as a Glock or a Colt.

I (at this point) wouldn’t trust a plastic gun. But, it might be useful in the near future. And, it certainly shouldn’t be outlawed purely based on the fear that anti-gun zealots have of it.

GWB on May 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM

nd 10 years from now when we find out a law banning these items is unenforceable? Is Schumer’s stupidity ever beyond the pale?

NotCoach on May 7, 2013 at 2:47 PM

So what if its unenforcable, the politicians will have a nice little piece of paper to hide behind, so, you know, everyone is safe now.

Gatsu on May 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM

I don’t want to make a gun. Yet.

Magazines on the other hand, that I could get into.

Bishop on May 7, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I’m sure the first light bulbs were really expensive too.

CurtZHP on May 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Yeah, and look what happened to them, nowadays.

GWB on May 7, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Tyrannical bastard. Tree of liberty, bodily fluid of tyrants. Some assembly required.

Rixon on May 7, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Watching this, I wonder if the GOP will use the Undetectable Firearms Act as some sort of hedge against voting for other gun regulations. I.e. they’ll vote to renew it — I think — but then cite that vote as proof that they’ve done their duty on “common sense” gun regulations and hope that it placates the people who are after Ayotte and Flake to cave on background checks.

I doubt it. It’s clear there’s now a significant minority in the GOP which is in favor of gun control. This is the only way one can explain why the GOP is working to revive the background check legislation for the third time after the bill stalling twice.

Doomberg on May 7, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I’d like to 3d print my boot up Schumer’s ass.

SirGawain on May 7, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Is Rubio with him on this??

ToddPA on May 7, 2013 at 2:59 PM

NRA Stand and Fight: Universal Registration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hKq3967hUgU

On January 30, 2013, Sen. Chuck Schumer promised that universal background checks wouldn’t create a gun registry. Yet just 13 days later, as Schumer was discussing gun control proposals, he stated, “the one which I’ve been pushing, which is universal registration.” It couldn’t be any clearer — when a politician says “universal background checks,” what they actually mean is “universal registration.

Colbyjack on May 7, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Background checks for 3d printers in 5..4…3

cmsinaz on May 7, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Fortunately, there are already plans on the internet for building your own. So, you can build the machine with which to build your own firearm. That part is pretty cool.

GWB on May 7, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Is Rubio with him on this??

ToddPA on May 7, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Rubio & Flake will do whatever Obama tells them to do.

Just give them some $$$ and you have their vote.

tetriskid on May 7, 2013 at 3:00 PM

If they are going to outlaw internet downloads, I hope they go after the Harlem Shake…

Deafdog on May 7, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Or you could also just buy a real gun. It’s not that hard.

JohnBrown on May 7, 2013 at 2:45 PM

For now. I think the 3d printing is just saying, hey, if you repeal the 2nd, these plastic guns won’t have any background checks or regulations whatsoever…

In time, whats to stop the black market manufacturing of real metal guns?

El_Terrible on May 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM

It’s time to go after the 3-D printable guns

This is cat and mouse Sh*t….let me know when
we can 3d print J-DAMS…

ToddPA on May 7, 2013 at 3:02 PM

I love the future this technology could bring to firearms manufacturing, especially peripherals like magazines. The Printable lower receiver is already a reality, though not durable enough yet. Polymer receivers are interesting, affordable and are a great alternative right now.

Making an entire, reliable, functional, durable firearms with this technology is still far off.

But it’s awesome that its on its way.

In the meantime, you could buy yourself a veritable arsenal with the money it would take you to buy a decent printer now.

Stock up.

catmman on May 7, 2013 at 3:03 PM

A TWO-FER FOR SEN CHUCK-YOU!

I absolutely love it when the 1st amendment and 2nd amendment come together. Apparently, Senator Chuck-You does not allow that the program files are covered under the 1st amendment and the right to keep and bare arms is as well covered in the US Constitution.

CiLH1 on May 7, 2013 at 3:03 PM

We need to outlaw politicians that try to control the uncontrollable. Give up Schumer, you’ve lost,… again.

WestTexasBirdDog on May 7, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Ok, so I’ll say what everyone is thinking…

“What part of ‘shall not infringe’ do you not understand?”

dominigan on May 7, 2013 at 3:05 PM

You’ll never be able to stop it. They will just build a better mouse-trap.

Schumer demonstrates, once again, why central planners FAIL.

Resist We Much on May 7, 2013 at 3:06 PM

We need to send a quiz to Chuckie:

“WHICH Amendment states ‘shall not be infringed’ ?”
“What does ‘infringed’ mean?”

ProfShadow on May 7, 2013 at 3:07 PM

So Sleezeball Schumer thinks if he makes a LAW against it, than terrorists won’t do this.

Smart power!

Tom C on May 7, 2013 at 3:07 PM

I love the future this technology could bring to firearms manufacturing, especially peripherals like magazines. The Printable lower receiver is already a reality, though not durable enough yet. Polymer receivers are interesting, affordable and are a great alternative right now.

Making an entire, reliable, functional, durable firearms with this technology is still far off.

But it’s awesome that its on its way.

In the meantime, you could buy yourself a veritable arsenal with the money it would take you to buy a decent printer now.

Stock up.

catmman on May 7, 2013 at 3:03 PM

I think the real game changer would be a 3d printed magazine for the Glock 17. (Glock 17 because I think it might be the most common handgun?)

El_Terrible on May 7, 2013 at 3:08 PM

The issue of guns really unhinges the anti-gun nut cases and gets them to make fools of themselves and expose themselves for the extremists they really are.

Apparently anything that causes hard objects to move through the air at high speeds is too dangerous and must be regulated.

farsighted on May 7, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Can’t pass this up:

Poll: Carter most trusted politician; Matt Lauer least trusted network newsie

Former President Jimmy Carter stands head and shoulders above other American politicians — including President Obama — in a new Reader’s Digest poll of the 100 most trusted people in America that also suggests the problems dogging “Today Show” co-host Matt Lauer have nicked his integrity.

The new poll, provided to Secrets, proves that Washington has fallen out of favor in America. The four most trusted Americans are in show business. No. 1 is Tom Hanks, followed by Sandra Bullock, Denzel Washington and Meryl Streep.

The most trusted people in America are the ones who pretend to be somebody else for a living?

Shoot me now…..

BobMbx on May 7, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Banning “plastic magazines” would ban things like…Magpul’s PMAG or even my old Thermolds.

And all of this stuff is not “undetectable”. If you ran it through an airport luggage x-ray machine it would simply show up as orange instead of blue.

Spade on May 7, 2013 at 3:11 PM

I think Schumer really wants to control the internet – like they do with China….

The sooner this wanker is gone – the better America will be.

redguy on May 7, 2013 at 3:12 PM

“…shall not be infringed.”

Shump on May 7, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Skynet gwb?

cmsinaz on May 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM

I think the scary part of this is someone using the printers to make those shoulder things that go up. I’m not comfortable knowing my neighbors could be producing hundreds of such devices right next door.

Bishop on May 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM

For all you fellow Second types: Would you trust a printable firearm right now? The technology is in its infancy and I, for one, want good old-fashioned American steel. The weight of it commands respect and caution, even before I ever fired it. The thing tells you to be sure you handle it right, with all safety, unlike with some liberal rich college kid who gets a Porsche for his 18th birthday.

Schumer is coming across as a total comic here, like his niece Amy who does comedy for a living. Except Chuckles is serious!

You can’t make this stuff up.

Liam on May 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I think Schumer really wants to control the internet – like they do with China….

The sooner this wanker is gone – the better America will be.

redguy on May 7, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Uhhh… every politican does.

Not just Democrats.

tetriskid on May 7, 2013 at 3:18 PM

I’m starting a petition to get the city library to buy a 3D printer.

If they’ll let the wineos come in to watch porn, me printing a few firearms should not be a problem. Right?

WestTexasBirdDog on May 7, 2013 at 3:18 PM

I think the scary part of this is someone using the printers to make those shoulder things that go up. I’m not comfortable knowing my neighbors could be producing hundreds of such devices right next door.

Bishop on May 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Not to mention they are Undetectable shoulder things that go up…. One shudders at the prospect.

Galt2009 on May 7, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Here you go Chuck. Just for you.

oh, BTW, FU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTU2Y0VFH0E

ToddPA on May 7, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Glad I don’t fly… I ping a metal detector every single time.. Titanium implants, a LOT of Titanium.. from C-3 to T-1..

and everytime, the guy says.. “(rolls eyes) no no no, that wouldn’t trip it, it’d have to be a lot of metal, AND be close to the surface”..

Ya think?

They strip me of everything but the rivets in my jeans, hand scan me, then still accuse me of hiding something.. pockets inside out no belt, no shoes, no phone.. nothing but skin cloth and a very frustrated sense, the guys running these scanners are not bright..

We used them to check folks coming into a restricted area in the early 80′s, and there is a lot of common sense required to not make yourself look stupid.. you can’t peg out the sensitivity then tell a person with implants you have no idea why it says your neck is packing…

I hate bureaucracies..

mark81150 on May 7, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Biden: Gun control to wait for immigration
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/05/biden-gun-control-to-wait-for-immigration-163361.html?

Vice President Joe Biden on Monday acknowledged what everyone involved in gun control has been saying privately for weeks: Any votes for expanded background checks must wait at least through the summer while the Senate debates immigration reform.

Galt2009 on May 7, 2013 at 3:24 PM

If they can stop you from hand-making your firearm using a 3-D printer, that means they can control how firearms are made. If they have that control, they can impose limits that make firearms even more impossible to obtain than they are today. “All firearms shall be made using technology that… [no one can afford!].”

It’s the Second Amendment, Mr. Schumer. Keep your hands off of it!

Mdirmeie on May 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Skynet gwb?

cmsinaz on May 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Dangit! Now I’ve gone from optimistic to paranoid!

If they’ll let the wineos come in to watch porn, me printing a few firearms should not be a problem. Right?

WestTexasBirdDog on May 7, 2013 at 3:18 PM

It ain’t firearms that’ll use up all the plastic “ink”. And it *will* relate directly to the sorts of stuff the winos are doing……. Eeeeeewwwwwwwwwww

GWB on May 7, 2013 at 3:28 PM

For those who watched Star Trek, The Next Generation, where they had replicators that could create food and other human essentials — to end hunger, crime, and all other ills of Mankind — Schumer and his kind would be out there to regulate it and/or tax it.

And those people have the nerve to say they’re somehow ‘progressive’?

If anything, liberals are the ones stifling human achievement.

Liam on May 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Let’s leave 3D printers alone and ban fascist pieces of crap like Schumer instead!

FloatingRock on May 7, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Only ribbon printers should be allowed! /lib

trs on May 7, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Has this rtocket scientist Schumer ever heard of zip guns?

any reasonably competent machinist can or could make a home made firearm design, all you need is a barrel, chamber, some kind of receiver.. or even more basic.. a steel pipe with a spring, and a threaded cap, striker, and a round of the correct size..

all the early sub-machine guns were put together from stamped parts in a machine shop.. The Czechs were good at it.. The Italians..

You can make everything illegal.. and if nothing else, the same drug smuggler who walks across the border with coke.. can as easily carry a load of handguns..

The nonsensical thinking, a ban solves everything is just nuts..

Part of my training included making an airbase unusable to the enemy, no details.. but the kinds of traps, sabotage and just plain mean mean area denial techniques they probably still teach.. are immune from any gun law..

Unless they ban the sale of gasoline.. bleach.. powdered detergent and .. well you get the point..

mark81150 on May 7, 2013 at 3:34 PM

For those who watched Star Trek, The Next Generation, where they had replicators that could create food and other human essentials — to end hunger, crime, and all other ills of Mankind — Schumer and his kind would be out there to regulate it and/or tax it.

And those people have the nerve to say they’re somehow ‘progressive’?
Liam on May 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM

“Computer….Mariah Carey, blonde, hot”

I was born too early. Damn it.

BobMbx on May 7, 2013 at 3:35 PM

For all you fellow Second types: Would you trust a printable firearm right now? The technology is in its infancy and I, for one, want good old-fashioned American steel. The weight of it commands respect and caution, even before I ever fired it. The thing tells you to be sure you handle it right, with all safety, unlike with some liberal rich college kid who gets a Porsche for his 18th birthday.

Schumer is coming across as a total comic here, like his niece Amy who does comedy for a living. Except Chuckles is serious!

You can’t make this stuff up.

Liam on May 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Metal printing technology already exists

Rich H on May 7, 2013 at 3:36 PM

“Computer….Mariah Carey, blonde, hot”

I was born too early. Damn it.

BobMbx on May 7, 2013 at 3:35 PM

There were some very explicit inferences about the holodeck, and the strick rules about privacy were mentioned more than once..

fill in the blanks..

mark81150 on May 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM

“There’s no reason for a rifle receiver or a magazine to be, quote unquote, detectable,” Wilson says.

So, they want to just ban all polymer receivers and frames … okey doke.

I guess they’ll put in another set of waivers, exceptions, and get-out-jail-free cards for law enforcement, retired law enforcement (because once you’re special in the eyes of the living Constitution, you’re always special), people who know dems high up the slime chain, and the rest of the privileged dem classes and dem street enforcers.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 7, 2013 at 3:39 PM

For all you fellow Second types: Would you trust a printable firearm right now?

Too late

Not printed, but certainly cheaper. And it works.

BobMbx on May 7, 2013 at 3:39 PM

You can go to Home Depot and buy everything you need to make a gun in your garage. Nothing fancy, but it will work.

RadClown on May 7, 2013 at 3:41 PM

What’s next Schumer? Is it time to go after pipes and matchheads yet?

farsighted on May 7, 2013 at 3:41 PM

For all you fellow Second types: Would you trust a printable firearm right now?

Liam on May 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I wouldn’t pull the trigger on one, no.

Midas on May 7, 2013 at 3:42 PM

I guess they’ll put in another set of waivers, exceptions, and get-out-jail-free cards for law enforcement, retired law enforcement (because once you’re special in the eyes of the living Constitution, you’re always special), people who know dems high up the slime chain, and the rest of the privileged dem classes and dem street enforcers.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 7, 2013 at 3:39 PM

amazing isn’t it?… the most hatefully shrill gun banner’s in Hollywood and the democrat party… are packing a holstered weapon, to protect “them” from the ultra dangerous Christianist terror groups…. because we all know, that being an NRA member makes you worser than the 911 hijackers..

Do they remove ALL your higher brain functions after you become a hard left nut case?

or are they just “born that way”?

mark81150 on May 7, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Can we 3D print a lobotomy on Schumer? It would make him smarter.

Myron Falwell on May 7, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Anyone who has passed High School Metal Shop and has access to Sears or Home Depot is more than capable of creating highly functional fully-automatic weapons. They’ve been around for over a century and it ain’t rocket science to plan out and construct one.

glockomatic on May 7, 2013 at 3:45 PM

You can go to Home Depot and buy everything you need to make a gun in your garage. Nothing fancy, but it will work.

RadClown on May 7, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Agreed.. if you want to do damage.. the knowledge exists in most vets and competent tinkerers..

so maybe they should just ban human thought?

mark81150 on May 7, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Metal printing technology already exists

Rich H on May 7, 2013 at 3:36 PM

But it’s in its infancy. I don’t trust it yet. But and also…

In the 60s, when I was in grade school, there were ideas about making clothes out of paper that were one-use. So was the videophone, but that was abandoned quite soon. Yet, we have it.

My point in all of this is that, if we could expand the technology to ‘print’ clothing — just that — we could free up land that grows cotton and plant more food crops.

Except for liberals like Schumer, who would want to get involved with advancement and find ways to regulate and tax it all.

My view is that, when you really come down to it, liberals are the dinosaurs that stifle the advancement of Man.

Liam on May 7, 2013 at 3:46 PM

I downloaded the files, just in case. And more to piss off jerks like Chuck-U.
What DD has done is remind people of just how much power they really have. They just have to grab it.

Iblis on May 7, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Can we 3D print a lobotomy on Schumer? It would make him smarter.

Myron Falwell on May 7, 2013 at 3:44 PM

I prefer the 19th Century version: The ‘patient’, an ice pick in the inside corner of the left eye (how fitting!), and a hammer.

Liam on May 7, 2013 at 3:48 PM

I find Schumer’s contempt for the Bill of Rights to be far beyond the pale.

Good Lt on May 7, 2013 at 3:49 PM

so maybe they should just ban human thought?

mark81150 on May 7, 2013 at 3:45 PM

That is exactly what they want to do. That’s what political correctness and thought crimes and hate crimes are all about.

farsighted on May 7, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Fluke Chuck Schemer. The petty tyrant is finally realizing he’s losing control of us serfs. He can FOAD.

jawkneemusic on May 7, 2013 at 3:49 PM

so maybe they should just ban human thought?

mark81150 on May 7, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Looking at folks like Schumer and Jackson-Lee, they already have done that within the party.

GWB on May 7, 2013 at 3:58 PM

We need an “Undetectable Brain Act” to get all of these moronic slugs out of our government.

The first to go under this act, of course, would be the 84 IQ Indonesian Dog-Eater … but he was never eligible for the job, to start with.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 7, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Banning “plastic magazines” would ban things like…Magpul’s PMAG or even my old Thermolds.
Spade on May 7, 2013 at 3:11 PM

And Pez dispensers.

whatcat on May 7, 2013 at 4:03 PM

“Current law already allows home hobbyists to build their own firearms provided they are for personal use only (and not for sale). Such guns are already ‘untraceable.’ 3D-printing doesn’t change that basic fact — it merely allows a wider range of hobbyists without specialized machine shop skills to do what’s already legal.”

PoliTech on May 7, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Liam on May 7, 2013 at 3:46 PM

I’ve seen sample parts made from this technology. Material density is virtually 100%. Highly detailed part geometries are possible. One part I saw had an internal 1-64 UNC thread printed (not tapped) inside it. The main issues in the short run include:

* Cost of printing machine
* Cost of powdered metal

I expect the cost curves for metal printing to follow the same trend as for resins. However I would be wary of chemical purity and be prepared to do destructive testing on high-stress parts.

Rich H on May 7, 2013 at 4:05 PM

I’m sure the criminal element will be extremely happy with these new requirements.

Let’s face it. 3-D printing will become more portable and more affordable. The government is fooling itself if it actually believes it will be able to contain this new issue.

Kingfisher on May 7, 2013 at 4:07 PM

3 d printable guns “might” be able to shoot once-i can’t see multiple shootings

gerrym51 on May 7, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I wouldn’t pull the trigger on one, no.

Midas on May 7, 2013 at 3:42 PM

What if pulling the trigger on one would help free America again?

FloatingRock on May 7, 2013 at 4:08 PM

I wouldn’t pull the trigger on one, no.

Midas on May 7, 2013 at 3:42 PM

What if pulling the trigger on one would help free America again?

FloatingRock on May 7, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Umm…the idea is not to stupidly kill yourself while trying to kill the enemy.

Liam on May 7, 2013 at 4:14 PM

I doubt it. It’s clear there’s now a significant minority in the GOP which is in favor of gun control. This is the only way one can explain why the GOP is working to revive the background check legislation for the third time after the bill stalling twice.

Doomberg on May 7, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I think they are beginning to realize that the Dems won’t be the only ones with their backs against the wall when the rev—ummm, nevermind.

squint on May 7, 2013 at 4:14 PM

The constitution grants them…just ask Sheila

Schadenfreude on May 7, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Go after the fools in DC. They should all be bused to creches and have them wipe each others’ butts, per force.

Schadenfreude on May 7, 2013 at 4:27 PM

I have an answer for you, Senator. Guns aren’t the problem. Please see if you understand the following formula:

F=ma

That, Senator, is one law you cannot change.

Turtle317 on May 7, 2013 at 4:27 PM

s/b bussed to creches.

Schadenfreude on May 7, 2013 at 4:33 PM

This debate brings up an issue that has not been addressed at all by control advocates, probably because it’s a non-starter.

When they talk about banning assault rifles, for example or banning high-capacity magazines, they aren’t talking about banning either. They’re talking about prohibiting their possession by citizens.

Which, as has repeatedly been pointed out, means these weapons would only be possessed by law enforcement, the military, and criminals (who do not, by definition obey the law, including gun-control laws).

The only way to ban a weapon is to ban the manufacture of the weapon. They know it and we know it. But, they won’t say it.

However, they continue to use the term ban when it has no application to what they’re talking about.

IndieDogg on May 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM

It’s past time to go after the 3-D 1-D guns politicians.

listens2glenn on May 7, 2013 at 4:53 PM

DISARM THE CITIZENS……and then finish robbing them.

The tyranny of the Progressives.

In both parties!!!!

PappyD61 on May 7, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Senator Schumer,

The RIAA and MPAA learned very long, and very painful lessons that you *cannot* put the internet in a box.

Defenestratus on May 7, 2013 at 5:01 PM

YAWN

TX-96 on May 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Perhaps Schumer should look at all the “gun laws” that aren’t fully enforced now.

But that would be what an INTELLIGENT person would do. That leaves Chuckie off the hook.

GarandFan on May 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM

A nice lathe from Grizzly or HF… some DRO… an old computer… a visit to Little Machine Shop… some bulk stock from Amazon… some open source blue prints in digital form…

That do it at home cat has been out of the bag for a decade. Low barrier to entry to get into the home machining realm. And we aren’t even up to the open source maker machine: the 3D fabricator that can make its own components. You can already do that with a lathe. There is already a home gunsmith community.

Plastic will lower that cost to entry.

So will a trip to HD or Lowes for steel pipe and structural conduit.

The plastics have to really get up to where metals are for long term utility. Even the old USSR had to finally give up on trying to stop individuals from making firearms because it didn’t work. Unfortunately the Left cannot learn from anyone’s experience, even those that they once lauded. They deny human nature and the cost is always high in blood.

ajacksonian on May 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM

The RIAA and MPAA learned very long, and very painful lessons that you *cannot* put the internet in a box.
Defenestratus on May 7, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Then we’ll just put all the internet USERS in a box… same thing, right?
- Libs/proggies

Marcola on May 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Schmuckie.. you should devote all your efforts into banning farting in an elevator. Its got a better chance at being enforced.

44Magnum on May 7, 2013 at 5:33 PM

I … did not foresee 2014 being dominated by Mike Bloomberg ads about the evils of weapons that look like Fisher-Price toys, but this is the world we have, my friends.

I guess we’ll be OK with our Evil Black Guns(tm) now.

Can I print one of these that plays ‘Pop Goes the Weasel’ when it’s fired?

James on May 7, 2013 at 6:02 PM

How about this for a rule: Cooperate on legislation with Chuck Schumer and get primaried.

applebutter on May 7, 2013 at 6:03 PM

I think the scary part of this is someone using the printers to make those shoulder things that go up. I’m not comfortable knowing my neighbors could be producing hundreds of such devices right next door.

Bishop on May 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I don’t understand this reference. Some sort of assault, folding shoulder thing or something?

Whatever it is, it sounds terrifying.

Axe on May 7, 2013 at 6:18 PM

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