Open thread: Mark Sanford vs. Elizabeth Colbert Busch in SC-1 special election; Update: Sanford wins

posted at 6:01 pm on May 7, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

In the final test tonight, the voters of South Carolina’s first Congressional district will decide whether or not to indeed award former and formerly disgraced Republican governor Mark Sanford with another shot at political office, or to act completely out of character and elect Democratic candidate Elizabeth Colbert Busch to now-Sen. Tim Scott’s former seat. Sanford’s campaign has been almost a comeback-within-a-comeback; the bottom momentarily fell out after revelations surfaced that he violated his divorce settlement by trespassing at his wife’s home earlier this year and national Republicans subsequently decided to leave him to his own devices. He’s since gotten somewhat back on track, however, and although the race is still in tossup territory, it sounds like the wind just might be at his back.

The kicker, I suppose, will really be if enough of the deeply red district’s Republican voters stay home or turn out to cast their ballots for Sanford — whether or not it’s a vote in actual support of Sanford, or simply a vote against a Democrat taking the seat. Says Betsy Woodruff at NRO:

In about 24 hours, we’ll start getting results on one of the most colorful House races in recent memory. A South Carolina GOP insider close to the Sanford campaign tells me that Republicans are hoping for turnout to be between 13 and 19 percent. If turnout is in that window, as it was in the primary, then Sanford will probably have a good night. The same insider says that if African Americans in the district vote at the same rate that they did in the November 2012 elections, “then there will be some troubles.”

She also mentions that, after he cast his vote for himself earlier today, Sanford told reporters that he “won’t run again if he loses tonight. He’s had his shot at redemption, he said, and he won’t take more than one.” …Ahem. I will refrain from comment on that one.

It’s difficult to know what turnout is going to look like until it’s over, and the polls are open until 7 P.M. eastern — you can follow the live results here from Politico, and I’ll update with the winner when it’s announced.

Whichever party wins, the other will have a lot of esplainin’ to do — the Colbert Busch camp because the Democrats have sunk over $1 million into the race for naught, or the Sanford camp on how they could possibly have managed to lose the crimson district. Either way, I’d definitely put this bizarre race down in the “not even a little bit indicative of the 2014 midterms” category.

Update: You can follow the county-by-county results here; they’re already rolling in.

Update: I’m going to hold it in until it’s official, but the Twitters has some thoughts:

Update: Aaand, it’s official: With 226/317 precincts reporting, the AP is calling it for Sanford with 54 percent of the vote.

Update: The comeback is complete. Somewhere, Anthony Weiner is paying attention.

Former Republican South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford revived a scandal-scarred political career by winning back his old congressional seat Tuesday in a district that hasn’t elected a Democrat in three decades.

The comeback was complete when he defeated Democrat Elizabeth Colbert Busch, the sister of political satirist Stephen Colbert. With 87 percent of the precincts reporting, Sanford had 54 percent of the vote.

Update: “We gave it a heck of a fight,” says Colbert Busch:

And yet:

“I have a question for y’all: How many of you want to change Washington, D.C.?” Sanford said to cheers from supporters in Charleston, declaring that voters had sent “a message to Washington, D.C., and a messenger to Washington, D.C., on the importance of changing things in that fair city.”


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ECB’s started her press conference, her tears are sweet, sweet ….
Liberal tears sustain me.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 8:53 PM

That is what happens when the locals don’t listen to what their national “betters” tell them to do.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Or when locals are snookered into thinking they’re sticking to some mythical national boogeyman.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 8:54 PM

So has Sanford shown the GOP the pathway to victory for 2014? No, I don’t mean running off with an Argentinean mistress. Tying every Democrat to Obama and Pelosi.

Doughboy on May 7, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Or running in an R+11 district. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Don’t fool yourself into thinking that Sanford’s campaign was something spectacular or easy to emulate. By contrast, it was amateurish (cardboard Pelosi) to an absurd degree. Had he been in a swing district, Stephen Colbert would be doing cartwheels right about now.

This is not something we can be proud of. At all.

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Something doesn’t seem right. How does Colleton only have 390 votes?

nobar on May 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Anyone notice that almost to the day that rat weasel who runs the RNC turned his back on Sanford his poll number began to rise? Welcome to 2014, you RNC scum. God bless real conservatives.

AmeriCuda on May 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

One Congressional race isn’t worth really getting upset over, but this is the symptom of something bigger that does get to me. What does trouble me is the large number of low-level thinkers in the party who have never had a strategic thought in their lives. Now let’s see how many times the Dems can get Sanford on the Sunday morning shows to make him out to be the face of the GOP.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Grow a freaking spine man. Liberals are at war with us? Why do we have to play nice ? Look the country is on the verge of ruin. All we needed was one more liberal zealot in congress. Everything is hanging by a thread.

You really are starting to sound like a concern troll.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 8:57 PM

who cares what sanford does behind closed doors….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyoPaVxMyWY

he saves the taxpayer money. that’s the best we can hope for. i’ll take it for now.

LIB

renalin on May 7, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Sanford is a terrible example of the family values party.

Colbert Busch was a perfect example of the no values party.

What Sanford did was terrible, but honestly I’m tired of us whining about the PR value he brings to Dems. Sanford may have cheated on his wife (and there was that trespassing thing), and that’s bad, but instead if lamenting we should just blast the Dems. “You supported a guy who tweeted his junk out to under-age girls. You defend murderers like Gosnell as a matter of political expediency. You have absolutely no grounds to mock the morals relative to politics of anyone else.”

BKennedy on May 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Good job, Rep. Sanford.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Or when locals are snookered into thinking they’re sticking to some mythical national boogeyman.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 8:54 PM

I take it you’re quite pleased with Senators Reid, Coons, McCaskill and Donnelly.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2013 at 9:00 PM

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Who cares?

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Don’t fool yourself into thinking that Sanford’s campaign was something spectacular or easy to emulate. By contrast, it was amateurish (cardboard Pelosi) to an absurd degree. Had he been in a swing district, Stephen Colbert would be doing cartwheels right about now.

This is not something we can be proud of. At all.

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Nonsense on stilts.

You run the race you need to run to win. In a swing district, you run one way. In an R+11 district, a cardboard cutout might be (and by all appearances, was in this instance) the right thing to do.

Damn right I’m proud. This candidate took a race that we all knew was eminently losable, and turned it into a laugher. Where I come from, we look to that man to learn some political lessons…

JohnGalt23 on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

And pfffffft the air goes out of the Democrat ballon and the meme this race was an indicator for 2014 with Dems taking back the house. Busch is heading under the bus for running a lousy campaign.

chickasaw42 on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Something doesn’t seem right. How does Colleton only have 390 votes?

nobar on May 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Because only one precinct in Colleton County is in the 1st District.

Steve Eggleston on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Or running in an R+11 district. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Don’t fool yourself into thinking that Sanford’s campaign was something spectacular or easy to emulate. By contrast, it was amateurish (cardboard Pelosi) to an absurd degree. Had he been in a swing district, Stephen Colbert would be doing cartwheels right about now.

This is not something we can be proud of. At all.

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Awwww let me guess our resident RINO was supporting Busch…

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Congrats Rep Sanford.

gophergirl on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Now let’s see how many times the Dems can get Sanford on the Sunday morning shows to make him out to be the face of the GOP.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Dear God, please don’t let him be stupid enough to go on the Sunday morning shows. He made a lot of stupid mistakes but not that stupid.

Pythagoras on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Democrats: A politician’s sex life is irrelevant (unless the politician has an “R” next to his name)

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Every Congressional GOP can learn from Sanford to run against Pelosi

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Anyone want to bet Jenny drops her case? Hearing scheduled for later this week.

famous amos on May 7, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Grow a freaking spine man. Liberals are at war with us? Why do we have to play nice ? Look the country is on the verge of ruin. All we needed was one more liberal zealot in congress. Everything is hanging by a thread.

You really are starting to sound like a concern troll.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 8:57 PM

I have a spine. I’m the one who looked at Mark Sanford and said “We can do better.” The country is on the verge of ruin but the fight won’t be won or lost on this one small battlefield. But now the Democrats have a new poster boy for War on Women 2.0 and we just handed them the fresh new club to beat us with. It’s another self-inflicted wound. How can you be so blind that you can’t see this coming?

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:05 PM

So, the “red-ification” of Charleston County is complete. I’m tellin’ ya, the suburb of Mt. Pleasant is growing sooooo fast and full of red it’s finally outweighing N. Charleston! It’s going to be South Carolina’s 4th largest city soon!

SouthernGent on May 7, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Wow, this is so great! My district is a laughingstock! We have a fibbing lunatic as our public face! It was the most preventable catastrophe ever, but we pulled it off! And we get what we deserve.

JackForce on May 7, 2013 at 9:06 PM

3 Qs: How will House Rs keep Sanford quiet? Will he be on TV so much he’s new face of GOP? Will any top R ‘primary’ Sanford in ’14? #SC1

1 Answer: Bill Clinton.

Punchenko on May 7, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Dear God, please don’t let him be stupid enough to go on the Sunday morning shows. He made a lot of stupid mistakes but not that stupid.

Pythagoras on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

He asked his ex-wife to manage his campaign then violated his divorce agreement just because he thought he could. Do you really want to find out how deep the rabbit hole that is Mark Sanford’s stupidity goes?

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:06 PM

ECB’s started her press conference, her tears are sweet, sweet ….
Liberal tears sustain me.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Goes great with KingGold’s sour grapes.

Happy Nomad on May 7, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I have a spine. I’m the one who looked at Mark Sanford and said “We can do better.” The country is on the verge of ruin but the fight won’t be won or lost on this one small battlefield. But now the Democrats have a new poster boy for War on Women 2.0 and we just handed them the fresh new club to beat us with. It’s another self-inflicted wound. How can you be so blind that you can’t see this coming?

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:05 PM

You are being silly. Democrats would be playing the war on women card regardless. What don’t you get? No matter what, the leftists find a way to smear Republicans. Get over yourself.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:08 PM

So its worth pointing out that with Sanford winning there is absolutely zero reason for the GOP to work with Obama and Democrats in any form.

If a disgraced Sanford can win in a district that was carried by Romney, and if all but 5 House GOP members are from districts that Romney carried, why work with Obama at all?

Even though he was outspent and disgraced, he still won. There are to many signs saying that GOP House members are very very safe going into next year.

I wonder if any of the experts in the media will draw the same conclusion that I did. Because it looks pretty obvious to me.

Blu3Yeti on May 7, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Every Congressional GOP can learn from Sanford to run against Pelosi

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Not true. This is a deep red district in a special election where turnout is low; the electorate today will mainly be the heavily engaged, politically active people who know who Pelosi, Reid, etc. are. In a general election where the low-information voters show up if you start talking about Pelosi you’re going to have a larger part of the electorate saying “Who?”

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:10 PM

He asked his ex-wife to manage his campaign then violated his divorce agreement just because he thought he could. Do you really want to find out how deep the rabbit hole that is Mark Sanford’s stupidity goes?

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:06 PM

This was special election- one the Dems invested heavily in. Sanford (if he is indeed the winner) will have another opponent in 18 months. That will be an entirely different election. But if you want to talk about stupidity, lets start with the idea with running an idiot like ECB again.

Happy Nomad on May 7, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Well…it’s better than losing to this skank/Colbert’s sister…I guess. He’ll seriously need to STFU and vote conservative, because absolutely no one is going to take any sh!t from Sanford.

Jaibones on May 7, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Not true. This is a deep red district in a special election where turnout is low; the electorate today will mainly be the heavily engaged, politically active people who know who Pelosi, Reid, etc. are. In a general election where the low-information voters show up if you start talking about Pelosi you’re going to have a larger part of the electorate saying “Who?”

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:10 PM

So what now? Eh? Just continue having republicans playing nice while Democrats play dirty? You haven’t learned much have you from Obama’s 2012 campaign eh?

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Congratulations Rep. Sanford…

OmahaConservative on May 7, 2013 at 9:12 PM

You are being silly. Democrats would be playing the war on women card regardless. What don’t you get? No matter what, the leftists find a way to smear Republicans. Get over yourself.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:08 PM

I get that they’re going to do it, it’s that they can play it to greater effect with Sanford in Congress. They can fundraise off Sanford being in Congress. Why are you in favor of making the Democrat’s job easier?

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Or when locals are snookered into thinking they’re sticking to some mythical national boogeyman.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Pity neither Pelosi or Obama are mythical.

What this means is very simple: voters have recognized that Obama and Obama supporters are worse than liars and cheats, which is exactly what Sanford is.

Meanwhile, idiots like yourself were screaming that we needed to push McLame and Romney because otherwise the Obama Party would savage actual conservatives, and Obama and his ilk would NEVER dare to do such things to such nice moderates as McLame and Romney.

What we have figured out is that the Obama Party would lie and smear and accuse Mother Theresa of murder.

So there’s no point in caring what they’re going to say or do; we already know, and there’s nothing we can do to change it.

So let’s win instead.

northdallasthirty on May 7, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Awwww let me guess our resident RINO was supporting Busch…

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Ah, right. I’m a RINO and I supported Busch. You caught me.

You astound me sometimes, you know that? You were just saying on this very thread that it was supremely important to support the adulterous spendthrift Sanford because he’d be 100% conservative (that’s a joke if I ever heard one, but let’s assume you’re right) while Colbert Busch would be a liberal drone.

Yet, you can’t seem to accept that argument when you perceive that the GOPer is somewhat less conservative – say, eighty to eighty-five percent. Strategy isn’t part of your mind then.

Let me ask you this? If Mark Sanford supported enhanced background checks, would then his adultery and free spending be an issue? How about Internet sales taxes? What if he – horrors – believed abortion was acceptable in the case of rape?

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 9:14 PM

HuffPo commentators are really full of themselves. They are actually complaining that an adulterer beat out Colbert. Its like Clinton, Edwards or Weiner never happen wit these people.

Lance Murdock on May 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Dear God, please don’t let him be stupid enough to go on the Sunday morning shows. He made a lot of stupid mistakes but not that stupid.

Pythagoras on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Just curious, prior to being overwhelmed by Argentenian poonani, Sanford was respected and did fine on the shows I saw him on.

He turned out to be a big disappointment as I had high hopes for him.

As long as he stays off the topic of his “soul mate” he should be fine.

arnold ziffel on May 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM

I have a spine. I’m the one who looked at Mark Sanford and said “We can do better.” The country is on the verge of ruin but the fight won’t be won or lost on this one small battlefield. But now the Democrats have a new poster boy for War on Women 2.0 and we just handed them the fresh new club to beat us with. It’s another self-inflicted wound. How can you be so blind that you can’t see this coming?

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:05 PM

You are being silly. Democrats would be playing the war on women card regardless. What don’t you get? No matter what, the leftists find a way to smear Republicans. Get over yourself.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Yup, yup, yup. Democrats will play whatever card they can and even go so far as to create new cards out of lies: e.g. the Mitt Romney killed my wife smear.

Democrats focus on one thing and that one thing is to win. Get as many of your members in power and push through your agenda. We have to win too.

Punchenko on May 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM

So what now? Eh? Just continue having republicans playing nice while Democrats play dirty? You haven’t learned much have you from Obama’s 2012 campaign eh?

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:12 PM

No, in 2014 you run against Obama. The sixth-year midterm is almost always death for the president’s party unless the out-of-power party does something really stupid.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Do we need to call a Wambulance for all the Lib and RINO Whiners here?

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I get that they’re going to do it, it’s that they can play it to greater effect with Sanford in Congress. They can fundraise off Sanford being in Congress. Why are you in favor of making the Democrat’s job easier?

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Alchemist19 in 2008: “Pick McCain. It’ll be harder for them to tear him apart”.

Alchemist19 in 2012: “Pick Romney. Obama would never dare try to tell lies and smears about him.”

LOL.

By now, I think everyone can see that Alchemist19 is most obsessed with being a good little puppet for the Obama Party, so let’s treat him as the good little concern-troll he is.

northdallasthirty on May 7, 2013 at 9:16 PM

northdallasthirty on May 7, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Umm, I didn’t support McCain or Romney until after they secured the nomination in 2008 and 2012, respectively, so your premise is flawed.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM

No, in 2014 you run against Obama. The sixth-year midterm is almost always death for the president’s party unless the out-of-power party does something really stupid.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM

LOL.

You are too much of a coward to ever run against Obama.

northdallasthirty on May 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM

northdallasthirty on May 7, 2013 at 9:16 PM

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM

My timing is impeccable.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Yup, yup, yup. Democrats will play whatever card they can and even go so far as to create new cards out of lies: e.g. the Mitt Romney killed my wife smear.

Democrats focus on one thing and that one thing is to win. Get as many of your members in power and push through your agenda. We have to win too.

Punchenko on May 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Exactly, RINOs like alchemist and KingGold keep assuring us that we have to play “nice” and be reasonable because then maybe the leftists will be civil.

News flash: Civility only WORKS with civil people. And the left is not composed of civil people.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Anyone notice that almost to the day that rat weasel who runs the RNC turned his back on Sanford his poll number began to rise? Welcome to 2014, you RNC scum. God bless real conservatives.

AmeriCuda on May 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

BINGO!

SouthernGent on May 7, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I don’t see how any conservative who chose to vote today could have voted for the pro abortion candidate over the pro life candidate. He was the only conservative choice as far as the issues.

Rose on May 7, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Umm, I didn’t support McCain or Romney until after they secured the nomination in 2008 and 2012, respectively, so your premise is flawed.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM

I love how the concern trolls try to rewrite history when they’re caught.

Isn’t it amazing how the FIRST people Alchemist19 always blames are Republicans? Obama calls Republicans murderers and little Alchemist19 proceeds to wet himself and scream how this would never happen if we just threw social conservatives out of the party.

northdallasthirty on May 7, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Bwahahahaha. Went over to the huffcompost to see the comments and this beauty popped up:

What a sad thing this is. Sometimes I wish the South had won the Civil War and been allowed to succeed.

Yes. Succeed.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Hi.

Is this thread about which cheese we would be if we could be a cheese?

Bishop on May 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Exactly, RINOs like alchemist and KingGold keep assuring us that we have to play “nice” and be reasonable because then maybe the leftists will be civil.

News flash: Civility only WORKS with civil people. And the left is not composed of civil people.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I don’t think I’ve ever suggested we place nice and be reasonable. I’ve suggested we not nominate idiots but that’s a wholly different thing. Stop trying to hold me accountable for the words you’ve put in my mouth.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Dear God, please don’t let him be stupid enough to go on the Sunday morning shows. He made a lot of stupid mistakes but not that stupid.

Pythagoras on May 7, 2013 at 9:01 PM

lol — ah, gad.

“This was a whole lot more than a simple affair, this was a love story,” Sanford said. “A forbidden one, a tragic one, but a love story at the end of the day.”

They met for romantic stays in Manhattan and in the Hamptons, paying cash so their whereabouts could not be traced. They met one more time in the city, a rendezvous meant as their last, sanctioned by his wife, Jenny, after she learned of their affair and chaperoned by a spiritual adviser who came to help them say goodbye.

But the governor could not stay away. Four months later, telling his staff he was going hiking on the Appalachian Trail over Father’s Day, he got on a plane to Argentina, hungry for more time with Chapur, and discovered why he could not close the door. “I will be able to die knowing that I had met my soul mate,” he said.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/07/sanford-like-any-man-in-love-gushes-about-his-soul-mate-confesses-to-other-lusts-.html

Maybe he’ll develop a new, hyper-efficient rocket engine and put any recriminations for his need for hot Argentinian booty to rest forever.

– But no, I’m guessing he’s not through. We need to be recruiting.

Wow, this is so great! My district is a laughingstock! We have a fibbing lunatic as our public face! It was the most preventable catastrophe ever, but we pulled it off! And we get what we deserve.

JackForce on May 7, 2013 at 9:06 PM

1. It could be worse; he could have lost. 2. Move to Louisiana. Our politicians serve their time and then serve their time. :)

Axe on May 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

I love how the concern trolls try to rewrite history when they’re caught.

Isn’t it amazing how the FIRST people Alchemist19 always blames are Republicans? Obama calls Republicans murderers and little Alchemist19 proceeds to wet himself and scream how this would never happen if we just threw social conservatives out of the party.

northdallasthirty on May 7, 2013 at 9:19 PM

RINOs always prefer the democrap over any icky “social conservative”

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Why are you in favor of making the Democrat’s job easier?

alchemist19

Why are you such a kitty cat?

xblade on May 7, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Well the voters get what they pay for. Good. Now we’ll wait on the threads where Sanford flops around in the wind.

Limerick on May 7, 2013 at 9:22 PM

I’m good with it.

Menendez still a Senator? Yea? Then colbert can whine all he wants. I don’t care.

wolly4321 on May 7, 2013 at 9:22 PM

I don’t think I’ve ever suggested we place nice and be reasonable. I’ve suggested we not nominate idiots but that’s a wholly different thing. Stop trying to hold me accountable for the words you’ve put in my mouth.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

So what was your suggestion ? We concede the seat to a far left zealot because.. morals or something…..???

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Good for him. I understand he was a good Governor. And the extramarital affair, democrats do it all the time and are held in high esteem (Clinton, Weiner)

lonestar1 on May 7, 2013 at 9:22 PM

I will say this, I read an Economist piece and he sounds like a politician at ease:

I caught up with him in Bluffton, where he was due to make a stop at Year Round Pools. A group of 13 Colbert-Busch supporters (all women, mainly retirees from the Sun City complex up the road) had massed, waving signs and cheering, on the public ground that flanked the pool shop’s driveway. They were the only sign of an impending appearance from Mr Sanford. When he arrived, he went straight up to them, his smile pressed and ironed, and started shaking hands. “I think this is what makes America great,” he said, “and I admire you exercising your constitutional rights.” One of the protestors asked him to consider casting his vote for Ms Colbert-Busch; he promised to consider it. Before long he had the protestors smiling, laughing and joking with him. He walked into Year Round Pools, trailing a half-dozen journalists, a couple of staffers and seven supporters; inside he found just the store’s owner, who said he had “no idea you were coming”, and an employee. He pressed the flesh all the same. He gives the impression of finding it utterly incomprehensible that anyone, anywhere for any reason could dislike him. He is compulsively charming.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2013/05/south-carolina-special-election

rob verdi on May 7, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Let me ask you this? If Mark Sanford supported enhanced background checks, would then his adultery and free spending be an issue? How about Internet sales taxes? What if he – horrors – believed abortion was acceptable in the case of rape?

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Wow!!! What a squirrel in a hailstorm response. Not making traction with the idea we should be appalled that ECB is s big a loser as her worthless brother…. Throw up (in order) Gun grabbbing, Internet sales tax, and abortions.

You truly are a despicable loser.

Happy Nomad on May 7, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Maybe he’ll develop a new, hyper-efficient rocket engine and put any recriminations for his need for hot Argentinian booty to rest forever.

–Axe on May 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Sounds like you and a certain lawyer we all know and love.

RickB on May 7, 2013 at 9:24 PM

I don’t think I’ve ever suggested we place nice and be reasonable.

Oh no. You’ve only posted what, fifty times on this post demanding that Republicans shut up and nominate and vote for who the Obama Party tells us?

I’ve suggested we not nominate idiots but that’s a wholly different thing. Stop trying to hold me accountable for the words you’ve put in my mouth.

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Guess what? They did, and he still won anyway.

And for you to grouse about “idiots” when you were ready to put a Pelosi meat puppet with less brains than a lobotomized cockroach and a string in her back that, when you pull, makes her scream “Obama uber alles!” into office makes it pretty clear where your loyalties lie.

northdallasthirty on May 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Too bad liberals, didn’t sign up enough dead people, dogs, and fictitious people to vote for Busch candidate to win

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM

All you chicken-little conservatives who said Colbert-Bush would win are proven wrong. You win the Dick Morris award for poor prognostication. I hold you in contempt.

All you hyperventilators who say Sanford will be a poster boy for the “war on women” are living in November, 2012 – that was just pablum to beat Romney. Grow up. We will never beat the Dems if we accept that they frame the arguments. Free your minds.

All you jerks who bashed Sanford for ‘traspassing’ so he could be with his sons are unworthy of having your voices heard. Jenny was a ruthless witch to do what she did – talk about hell hath no fury. But for those of you who think that this somehow meant something are morons. Yes. Morons. That means you.

Sanford was tea party before there was a tea party. Are you mad that he cheated on his wife? Or just mad that he embarrassed himself and you are so hyper-partisan that you can’t forgive anyone who hurts the brand? I’n betting most of you anti-Sanford types are the latter not the former.

As for Colbert-Bush – she was revealed as a transparent Pelosi-bot. All that Donk money wasted in a heavy Red district. I love it. We can all at least agree on that.

Finally – for those of you bashing spray-painted signs, they are genius. You can’t take your eyes off them. Anyone who thinks that this tactic is amateurish is, in fact, an amateur himself/herself.

tryptic on May 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Exactly, RINOs like alchemist and KingGold keep assuring us that we have to play “nice” and be reasonable because then maybe the leftists will be civil.

News flash: Civility only WORKS with civil people. And the left is not composed of civil people.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Maybe you could try not concocting things I’ve never said. Thanks.

Just because the Democrats elect the dregs of society to higher office doesn’t give the GOP free rein to do so. Either conservatives practice what we preach, or we’re just a bunch of lofty hypocrites deriding others from the Mount.

If standard operating procedure in your mind is that personal qualities mean jack crap when it comes to candidate selection, then quite frankly a sap like you deserves to be betrayed at every turn.

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Happy Nomad on May 7, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Don’t take King Gold seriously he is a Moby concern troll. He does this on every thread. It’s amazing how he always prefers the democrat to any republican to the right of Scott Brown.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM

I’m glad he won, warts and all, and that voters weren’t fooled by Colbert’s ‘I will tell you how I’ll vote after the election’ campaign.

changer1701 on May 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Mika hardest hit

She was real snarky towards him this am

cmsinaz on May 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM

You got to love the spin by Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman, Steve Israel:

“In this deep red Republican district that Mitt Romney won by 18 points, the fact that the Democrat made this competitive is a testament to the strength of Elizabeth Colbert Busch as a candidate and the Republican habit of nominating flawed candidates,” Israel said. “Democrats will be aggressive and drive deep into Republican-held territory this cycle to find districts with flawed Republican candidates where we can compete. “Democrats will be aggressive and drive deep into Republican-held territory this cycle to find districts with flawed Republican candidates where we can compete.”

tbrickert on May 7, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Maybe you could try not concocting things I’ve never said. Thanks.

Just because the Democrats elect the dregs of society to higher office doesn’t give the GOP free rein to do so. Either conservatives practice what we preach, or we’re just a bunch of lofty hypocrites deriding others from the Mount.

If standard operating procedure in your mind is that personal qualities mean jack crap when it comes to candidate selection, then quite frankly a sap like you deserves to be betrayed at every turn.

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Haha. You and conservative don’t go in the same sentence. The only brand of conservatism you adhere to is from the Andrew Sullivan school of conservatism.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Don’t take King Gold seriously he is a Moby concern troll. He does this on every thread. It’s amazing how he always prefers the democrat to any republican to the right of Scott Brown.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Better to be perceived as a Moby concern-troll than an empty-headed zealot, in my estimation.

Can you ask Christine O’Donnell what she’s up to these days? I mean, since she’s in the padded room next to yours, it’s really convenient for you.

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Bishop on May 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Yes, I’m extra sharp cheddar.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Oh , lets overlook all the Democrap indiscretions .
I’m glad he won . I would have voted for Mark Sanford .
He screwed up , got that , and had the fortitude to
expose himself ( no pun ) and fight back .
Hummmm , a little more gutsy than what we see in
DC today .

Lucano on May 7, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Don’t take King Gold seriously he is a Moby concern troll. He does this on every thread. It’s amazing how he always prefers the democrat to any republican to the right of Scott Brown.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM

I don’t take anything on a blog site seriously. Over time, you know who is serious, who simply provokes, who are morons and whose posts are worth reading.

The folks that only show up on special occassions are suspect to begin with.

Happy Nomad on May 7, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Congrats Rep. Sanford. I serenade your victory with lyrics by Paul Simon:

A man walks down the street
He says why am I soft in the middle now
Why am I soft in the middle
The rest of my life is so hard

I need a photo-opportunity
I want a shot at redemption
Don’t want to end up a cartoon
In a cartoon graveyard

A man walks down the street
He says why am I short of attention
Got a short little span of attention
And woe my nights are so long

Where’s my wife and family
What if I die here
Who’ll be my role-model
Now that my role-model is
Gone Gone

He ducked back down the alley
With some roly-poly little bat-faced girl
All along along
There were incidents and accidents
There were hints and allegations…

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on May 7, 2013 at 9:32 PM

northdallasthirty on May 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I’ve said that it would be better in the long run to lose today in a race that won’t affect anything then nominate anyone but Mark Sanford in 2014 when the GOP should be heavily favored to retake the seat, both because of its heavy Republican tilt, and the fact that the sixth-year midterm is death for the president’s party. I know you’re not so stupid as to not be able to tell the difference between that line of reasoning and “that Republicans shut up and nominate and vote for who the Obama Party tells us” so why are you pretending that you are?

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:32 PM

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Wow, what is the expiration date on poor Ms. O’Donnell? When no one know what the heck you’re talking about? Surely you can come up with another candidate the didn’t win. Romney?

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Yup, yup, yup. Democrats will play whatever card they can and even go so far as to create new cards out of lies: e.g. the Mitt Romney killed my wife smear.

Democrats focus on one thing and that one thing is to win. Get as many of your members in power and push through your agenda. We have to win too.

Punchenko on May 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Exactly, RINOs like alchemist and KingGold keep assuring us that we have to play “nice” and be reasonable because then maybe the leftists will be civil.

News flash: Civility only WORKS with civil people. And the left is not composed of civil people.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I think most RINOs are just supplicating beta males who want acceptance from their Democrat friends and colleagues. The rest of us want to win and grind the American Left into the ground.

Lesson from 2008: War hero who had more stones facing the Vietnamese than he did fat, balding Senate aristocrats foolishly ruining the country so that they could expire while in office lose national elections. See also: Bob Dole.

Lesson from 2012: Awkward, nice guy New England patricians who marinated in the loony bin that is today’s Ivy League lose national elections. See also: George H.W. Bush

This isn’t very hard to understand. You run a charismatic, savvy, conservative guy or gal with middle class roots and win, win, win.

Punchenko on May 7, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Rather the seat go to a conservative but hopeless philanderer than a shrieking lib feminazi any day of the week. Thank goodness the great people of the Palmetto State didn’t elect the latter.

Often, life gives you choices between the bad and the worse, and I’ll go bad any day of the week over the other alternative.

TXUS on May 7, 2013 at 9:34 PM

tryptic on May 7, 2013 at 9:25 PM

You ok now, if not maybe a glass of water would help.

BTW, throwing about “you people are morons” after misspelling the word trespassing is bad form here at Hot Gas.

Bishop on May 7, 2013 at 9:34 PM

In a general election where the low-information voters show up if you start talking about Pelosi you’re going to have a larger part of the electorate saying “Who?”

alchemist19

They can fundraise off Sanford being in Congress.

alchemist19

So, Republicans can’t run against Pelosi in their campaigns because voters don’t know her, but dems can fund raise off of Sanford in their campaigns despite even fewer voters knowing about him, lol. Keep flinging, something might stick eventually.

xblade on May 7, 2013 at 9:34 PM

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Stop worrying about what people say about Republicans. The Right and/or the Tea Party has been blamed for every crazy violent event since Obama took office and while no once has it been true, it happens every time. Send the people to D.C. that will make the correct votes and more importantly, get rid of those who don’t.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Sounds like you and a certain lawyer we all know and love.

RickB on May 7, 2013 at 9:24 PM

I know. My hypocrite light flashed before I typed it. :) I hoped that 1. the fact that I didn’t throw any wife under any bus to get to her, and 2. my lack of trying to excuse publicly displayed jackassery with a deadpan “soul mate” excuse — would excuse me.

Guess not. :)

Still be glad when we get past this embarrassment, though. Its just hard to take him as a serious person. Too many unserious people telling me too much about how to live at the moment.

Axe on May 7, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Sanford’s awesome. I am so glad he’ll be back in the House. One more vote against the corporatist welfare-warfare-police statists.

It’s also good that the NRCC abandoned him. He owes the neo-Trotskyite establishment nothing.

Rae on May 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Yes, I’m extra sharp cheddar.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:30 PM

No you didn’t, really? I had some extra sharp cheddar at dinner tonight along with a Trappist beer that I dare not even guess at the cost. Check yourself, there might be a bite missing here and there.

Bishop on May 7, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Sanford’s awesome. I am so glad he’ll be back in the House. One more vote against the corporatist welfare-warfare-police statists.

It’s also good that the NRCC abandoned him. He owes the neo-Trotskyite establishment nothing.

Rae on May 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Nice. :-)

Punchenko on May 7, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Mika hardest hit

She was real snarky towards him this am

cmsinaz on May 7, 2013 at 9:28 PM

That morning joe will be all the sweeter tommorrow? No?

Seriously, I get it. Sanford is scum and I agree. But what does that say about the worth of ECB? This was supposed to be a nail-biter close election where we wouldn’t know the winner until late. IT TOOK 90 MINUTES AFTER THE POLLS CLOSED!

The Dems invested a million in this election because they hoped to suggest that there was a massive shift in bedrock Republican districts. Instead, Sanford wins by a decisive margin and they look foolish.

Happy Nomad on May 7, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Yes, I’m extra sharp cheddar.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Stilton.

Axe on May 7, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Wow, what is the expiration date on poor Ms. O’Donnell? When no one know what the heck you’re talking about? Surely you can come up with another candidate the didn’t win. Romney?

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Support for some candidates is indelible, yes.

Witchcraft, anti-masturbation, liar, embezzler, paranoiac. If you asked the Democrats to invent a perfect Republican punching bag, they’d still fall short of her. There’s no excuse for supporting her. None.

And linking me with Romney is fine, insofar as (1) I supported Pawlenty, Cain, and Perry before that, all of whom destroyed themselves, (2) there’s no way on God’s green earth that Gingrich or Santorum would have outperformed him, and (3) Romney never had to run ads denying his involvement in witchcraft.

I picked the best of a terrible field. I’d still pick him again in the same circumstances.

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 9:39 PM

So, Republicans can’t run against Pelosi in their campaigns because voters don’t know her, but dems can fund raise off of Sanford in their campaigns despite even fewer voters knowing about him, lol. Keep flinging, something might stick eventually.

xblade on May 7, 2013 at 9:34 PM

I’m talking about reaching two different people there. My original comment was in response to the suggestion than Sanford’s campaign is a model for Republicans to emulate and that’s not true because of the unique circumstances of the race; it doesn’t work to run against Pelosi when a large chunk of the electorate won’t know who she is. The latter comment was about Democrats reaching their donors who are usually more politically active and engaged and more likely to know who Mark Sanford is. Think of the NAGs, for example. I’m happy to clear up the confusion. :-)

alchemist19 on May 7, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Axe on May 7, 2013 at 9:35 PM

He’s okay on the important stuff, when he talks feelings I get a bit queasy but than that would happen no matter who it was. He’ll be fine and if not, the next guy is just two years away.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:40 PM

So… Why no HumpBot?
Watching Stephen Colbert lose
Is worth a HumpBot!

Haiku Guy on May 7, 2013 at 9:41 PM

I don’t personally like Sanford, but I will take the win for someone who actually votes Republican..

melle1228 on May 7, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Congrats to Sanford. You’d better keep your head on straight from now on.

22044 on May 7, 2013 at 9:43 PM

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 9:39 PM

But this guy won! I just think it’s funny that everyone in S.C. is stupid although they are they are the very folks who know him well. So he’s a bit of a moon calf over the new chick, I doubt it is going to come up on the floor of the House. Everybody relax.

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:43 PM

A loose zippered Republican is better than any Democrat-any day! Period.

hillsoftx on May 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Better to be perceived as a Moby concern-troll than an empty-headed zealot, in my estimation.

Can you ask Christine O’Donnell what she’s up to these days? I mean, since she’s in the padded room next to yours, it’s really convenient for you.

KingGold on May 7, 2013 at 9:30 PM

When did I express support for Oddonell? Pray Tell? I supported her after she won the primary over the Democrat. You were busy supporting the Democrat.

Raquel Pinkbullet on May 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Haiku Guy on May 7, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Is there a beta humpbot?

Cindy Munford on May 7, 2013 at 9:45 PM

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