The printable gun has arrived

posted at 8:31 am on May 4, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Just to establish a baseline of what we’re talking about here, any of you who regularly watch shows like How it’s Made, Modern Marvels or any of the other science and technology offerings on cable probably already know about 3-D printing. (One of the featured manufacturers of these machines has a nice video tutorial on it.) Basically, a 3-D model is designed and the “printer” lays down one layer after another of material until the model is produced. And some of these machines are already getting down to the affordable range.

So what would you do if you got one? Well, if you’re Cody Wilson, you’d print a gun of course. Forbes has the exclusive.

Eight months ago, Cody Wilson set out to create the world’s first entirely 3D-printable handgun.

Now he has.

Early next week, Wilson, a 25-year University of Texas law student and founder of the non-profit group Defense Distributed, plans to release the 3D-printable CAD files for a gun he calls “the Liberator,” pictured in its initial form above. He’s agreed to let me document the process of the gun’s creation, so long as I don’t publish details of its mechanics or its testing until it’s been proven to work reliably and the file has been uploaded to Defense Distributed’s online collection of printable gun blueprints at Defcad.org.

Here’s a picture of the piece, provided by Forbes.

PrintableGunFull

Now, if you’re the same kind of sensitive, caring person as me, you’re probably sitting there thinking the same thing I was. “That is totally awesome. I have got to get me one of these.” But this does bring up some dicey subjects. Cody Wilson has been working on this project since last summer – obviously just to make a point that I’m not all that concerned about – and he seems to have pretty much pulled it off in a relatively short period. (Forbes has a good summary of the whole back story at the link.) But I get the impression he was never expecting a fool proof product on the first go.

“We want to show this principle: That a handgun is printable,” says Wilson, a 24-year-old second-year law student at the University of Texas. “You don’t need to be able to put 200 rounds through it…It only has to fire once. But even if the design is a little unworkable, it doesn’t matter, as long as it has that guarantee of lethality.”

As far as I’m concerned, 3-D printing technology is absolutely awesome. It may be the first step on the road to replicators. The number of up-sides to this are probably too numerous to count, since early stage manufacturing for some small businesses who are just starting out might be a lot more affordable. But we have to deal with the fact that the technology is now – or very shortly will be – cranking out guns. Dr. Joyner seems to agree.

… [O]nce this technology becomes more affordable and widespread—and that’s going to happen very, very soon—it’s going to make a lot of existing laws obsolete.

Indeed, there are already attempts to regulate the technology:

New York congressman Steve Israel has responded to Defense Distributed’s work by introducing a bill that would renew the Undetectable Firearms Act with new provisions aimed specifically at 3D printed components. In January, personal 3D printing firm Makerbot removed all gun components from Thingiverse, its popular site for hosting users’ printable designs.

All of that opposition has only made Wilson more eager to prove the possibility of a 3D printed firearm. “Everyone talks about the 3D printing revolution. Well, what did you think would happen when everyone has the means of production?” Wilson asked when we spoke earlier in the week. “I’m interested to see what the potential for this tool really is. Can it print a gun?”

The very nature of the technology would seem to make it next to impossible to regulate.

As technology expands in any area of endeavor, things change. As prices drop and availability increases, the idea of some single set of well regulated manufacturers acting as gatekeepers of tools becomes more and more problematic. And now that seems to be happening in the field of manufacturing complex mechanisms. Yet again, people will be asking us… what do we do about this? I have no idea. But that genie is out of the bottle now, folks.


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Maybe the Obots can print their own Obamaphone now..

hillsoftx on May 4, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Cody Wilson was on Glenn Beck’s afternoon show a few months ago. Cody says a printable gun is the ultimate defense against the political gun grabbers.

petefrt on May 4, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Let me know when the download for printable ammo is released.

roy_batty on May 4, 2013 at 8:41 AM

I officially withdraw my support for Senator Ted Cruz. The man picks on retards: http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/05/03/Video-Ted-Cruz-Challenges-Joe-Biden-to-a-Gun-Debate-at-NRA-Convention-in-Houston

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 8:46 AM

…looks harmless!

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Yet again, people will be asking us… what do we do about this? I have no idea. But that genie is out of the bottle now, folks.

Object lesson for libtards, the law of unintended consequences. They let the genie out of the bottle by their unrelenting determination to ban firearms.

roy_batty on May 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Background checks for 3-D printers?

mjbrooks3 on May 4, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Now, if you’re the same kind of sensitive, caring person as me, you’re probably sitting there thinking the same thing I was. “That is totally awesome. I have got to get me one of these.” But this does bring up some dicey subjects
==================================


Ya know,just the image alone,this could be a duel-use
system,

a water-hose attachment for spraying the flowers,
and a pistol weapon system,to shoot at any Perps,

….if one is jumped,tending to there gardens!
(snark)

canopfor on May 4, 2013 at 8:53 AM

The Forbes link for Defense Distibuted is not working. Here’s the new link: http://defdist.org/ From there you can find the Manifesto, which explains Wilson’s thinking behind the project.

From Forbes:

…the project’s goal is to subvert gun control regulations in America and around the world. “It’s one of the ideas of the American revolution that the citizenry should be the owners of the weapons,” says Wilson. “Every citizen has the right to bear arms. This is the way to really lower the barrier to access to arms. That’s what this represents.”

petefrt on May 4, 2013 at 8:55 AM

…looks harmless!

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM

KOOLAID2:

Ya,till you gets sprayed by one!
(sarc)

canopfor on May 4, 2013 at 8:55 AM

In the Bing search window I typed “3″. Immediately “3d printer” popped up.

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Trying to understand the technology and how this can actually work gives me a headache.

Since ammo is getting harder to find, next will be laser guns. Or is that already an option?

tru2tx on May 4, 2013 at 8:59 AM

But Obama wasn’t done yet. He added that Mexico’s violence problem stems from American guns:

We recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States. In America, our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms, and as President I swore an oath to uphold that right—and I always will. At the same time, as I’ve said back home, I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common sense gun reforms that keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people—reforms that will save lives in both our countries. Meanwhile, we’ll keep increasing the pressure on the gun traffickers who bring illegal guns into Mexico, and we’ll keep putting these criminals where they belong—behind bars.

This is the same administration that greenlit a program to sell guns to straw dealers so that they could make their way south of the border, then be turned against American border patrol agents in Operation Fast and Furious.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/03/Obama-Mexico-speech

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 9:02 AM

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Heh, going to sell like hotcakes. How will the gun grabber pols cope?

petefrt on May 4, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Can you print a pressure cooker?

aryeung on May 4, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Trying to understand the technology and how this can actually work gives me a headache.

Since ammo is getting harder to find, next will be laser guns. Or is that already an option?

tru2tx on May 4, 2013 at 8:59 AM

It’s like a CT scan, in reverse. The computer converts the digital model into a series of layers, then instructs the printer to laser or chemically harden each of those layers in sequence from a tray of liquid goo.

PXCharon on May 4, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Can you print a pressure cooker?

aryeung on May 4, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Yes. Just print the truth. Libs can’t handle that kind of pressure.

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 9:15 AM

I see lots of dollars changing hands with this in the “underground economy”.Sales tax not included.

docflash on May 4, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Until I found a replacement front stock on Ebay for a vintage Mossberg 22, I was seriously considering sending another front stock to a replicator to have them make a plastic replacement. Have also considered getting reproductions made of the various plastic pieces on the old Mossberg 22′s, like the buttplate and trigger guard. Butt the market is probably too small, and the IRS would want their cut, too.

JimK on May 4, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Ture Equality for the masses – without a gummint in charge of production…
That was Marx’ dream communism. I wonder why the libs are pooping their pants? Isn’t this the definition of paradise for them? The “Means of Production” being fully equally shared?

DublOh7 on May 4, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Ya,till you gets sprayed by one!
(sarc)

canopfor on May 4, 2013 at 8:55 AM

…looks like I could get wet!

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 8:46 AM

…does Cruze ever use a teleprompter?

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM

A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one.- Benjamin Franklin “The Best Laid Plans of Mice and Obama”

My take.

kingsjester on May 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Feel Good Story of the Month!:

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was denied a second slice of pizza today at an Italian eatery in Brooklyn.

The owners of Collegno’s Pizzeria say they refused to serve him more than one piece to protest Bloomberg’s proposed soda ban,which would limit the portions of soda sold in the city.

Bloomberg was having an informal working lunch with city comptroller John Liu at the time and was enraged by the embarrassing prohibition. The owners would not relent, however, and the pair were forced to decamp to another restaurant to finish their meal. {Emphasis added to give the joint a plug]

http://dailycurrant.com/2013/05/02/bloomberg-refused-second-slice-of-pizza-at-local-restaurant/

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Let me know when the download for printable ammo is released.

roy_batty on May 4, 2013 at 8:41 AM

That’s the thing, isn’t it?
Remove their ability to control guns, and they will start going after ammo.

Count to 10 on May 4, 2013 at 9:28 AM

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM

I’ve seen a couple of claims that this is Onion-like satire, not something that actually happened.

Count to 10 on May 4, 2013 at 9:29 AM

I refuse to be impressed until it can make a phased plasma rifle in the 49 watt range AND produce a decent cup of “Earl Grey, hot”.

Oldnuke on May 4, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Clearly, the only reasonable course of action is to surrender more of our liberty to our government caretakers in the name of safety…for the children! /sarc

tdarrington on May 4, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Fox announced named of the Benghazi whistleblowers expected to testify 5/8:

Mark Thompson

Gregory Hicks

Eric Nordstrom

CoffeeLover on May 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Left pushes for return to Middle Ages where gov’t has legal monopoly on force and outlaws use force because, well, their outlaws, elites have armed gov’t approved security who can use force and everyone else is screwed. 3D printing has the potential to be an equalizer against such proposed tyranny kinda like the concept of the Liberator pistol of WWII.

Thanks to our crappy, leftist public education system HISTORY, wash, rinse, repeat….

deepdiver on May 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM

I’ve seen a couple of claims that this is Onion-like satire, not something that actually happened.

Count to 10 on May 4, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Heh. You’re probably right. With a name like Daily Currant (not current) … .

I hadn’t noticed the spelling until your comment.

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 9:46 AM

This is Cool!

workingclass artist on May 4, 2013 at 9:46 AM

CoffeeLover on May 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Crazy..I may know one of them.
Or went to school with one.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM

I don’t know, wouldn’t you be better off just downloading the blueprints to a sten gun and building that in a shop? (I mean didn’t those things get built in occupied countries in WW2?)

Dave_d on May 4, 2013 at 9:48 AM

For the criminals who can already get their hands on guns, it is really a non-issue: They can get guns – legal or not.

For the law-abiding citizens of this country, it means: Even if the government shuts-down a gun factory – a gun can still be made.

The second amendment still lives.

Turtle317 on May 4, 2013 at 9:48 AM

When nanotechnology becomes a reality (not the fantasy crap, but real nanotechnology), you should be able to get buckets of raw material and have the machine produce a nice smokeless powder. And some brass. And even the primers (the *real* bottleneck with ammo). Then, perhaps, you could print up a single-use (disposable), pre-loaded 13-round magazine for your 9mm whenever you needed it.

GWB on May 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM

You’re posting lots of old stuff here.

HotAir already has a story about Donny D and his “blood on the hands” and the Daily Currant story is satire. Well written, funny – but unfortunately not true.

Hill60 on May 4, 2013 at 9:50 AM

“Gun control” has always been a question of who rules- government or the citizenry. When The One (and some HA trolls) retort that “since the people are the government here, only a paranoid is afraid of government”, they are being disingenuous; the basic definition of government is “a small group with power making decisions for everyone, with the force to make those decisions stick”.

That said, this really isn’t that big a deal. Because making firearms has always been easier than most non-gun experts think. (And much easier than most hoplophobes imagine.)

The WW2 Liberator pistol (Guide Lamp Co. inventory item FP45) was little more than two stamped pieces of sheet metal, a piece of 1/2″ nominal steel tubing, a couple of cast bits, and two springs. It fired .45 ACP ammunition well enough that it could kill an enemy soldier and allow his weapon to be “liberated”, hence its name. It held ten spare rounds in a trap in the butt, and probably wouldn’t hold up for much more than that. But that would be enough to provide a resistance group with ten rifles courtesy of the enemy- and subtract ten grunts from the enemy’s ranks in the process.

Similar improvised weapons have been made worldwide, in machine shops, garages, and even in villages. They ranged from primitive single-shots like the FP45, to sophisticated copies of factory-made weapons from the Darra Adam Kel region of the Hindu Kush, or entirely new designs created by the “Paltik” smiths of the Philippines. (Think fully-automatic 12-gauge shotguns with blowback SMG-type actions feeding from 10-round detachable box magazines.)

During the war, the Danish underground manufactured their own Sten Mk II SMGs, due to a shortage of same in SOE’s available stocks. (They mostly went to France and the Balkans). After the war, the Israelis did the same thing to arm their defense forces. (Fun fact; a shot-out 0.303in SMLE barrel can make two Sten barrels; just cut it in two, chop off the chamber section, bore the rest of it out, rifle and chamber it to 9mm spec, and then machine it outside to fit the receiver. Done.)

3D printing is simply the next step in this procedure. Any reasonably well-equipped home workshop c be used to make an effective firearm, if the user knows their business. This just brings that procedure up to the present state of the art.

The real problem is ammunition. As any prison guard knows, any con can make a “zip gun” to fire ay cartridge; the trick is keeping the ammo out of the lockup. Cartridges are harder to make, from scratch, as they require deep-drawing capability to form them from brass, as well as the brass alloy itself. Bullets, propellants, and primers are easier- in fact much easier. (And no, I’m not explaining how here.)

3d printing may solve that problem, too. The most likely outcome here would be not 3D printed weapons using conventional rounds, but an entirely new class of small arms firing ammunition optimized for their structure. One possibility is Plastic-Cased Telescoped Ammunition, aka PCTA;

http://www.google.com/patents/US5233928

Ammunition of this type could be made by 3D printing at least as easily as a weapon to fire it could be. please note that such ammunition is being developed by the military due to being very useful in designing and building very-high-rate-of-fire (VHRF) automatic weapons, such as automatic cannon. For real fun, try Combustible Plastic Cased Telescoped Ammunition (CPCTA), which burns up its plastic casing along with its propellant charge, leaving nothing but an ignition squib to eject, or maybe not even that. (Metal can be sintered into “bands” in the case to provide electrical ignition contact “strips”, eliminating the need for a separate igniter.) By eliminating the ejection stroke, such weapons can have appallingly high rates of fire, making them useful as aircraft guns or light AAA.

On the personal level, something equivalent to the Colonial Marine “pulse rifle” in Aliens, or the “mini-Gatling” assault rifles in Deep Rising, are entirely within the realm of probability, not just possibility.

And you’ll be able to make them, and their ammo, yourself. Needless to say, this all takes “plastic model building” to a whole new level.

As to outlawing it, that’s about as realistic as outlawing the Laws of Thermodynamics. Which, come to think of it, some of our “brilliant” lawmakers have tried to in the past. (The Universe remained unmoved.)

There is no accounting for arrogance and stupidity. Especially on the part of politicians.

cheers

eon

eon on May 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Where is Cozmo when I need him?
I have to read up on this 3D printing..
way over my head.
Interesting!

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM

kingsjester on May 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM

…good as usual…love the picture!
…Senator Senile and the Republican Senators who approved Chuck Hagel must be proud that a combatant may be prosecuted for calling out to God… in the middle of a battle…while the other side is yelling ‘Allahu Akbar’

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM

I don’t know, wouldn’t you be better off just downloading the blueprints to a sten gun and building that in a shop? (I mean didn’t those things get built in occupied countries in WW2?)

Dave_d on May 4, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Up to a point. The problem is shop tools take some room, and some skill. This allows your average couch potato to print one out.

For the law-abiding citizens of this country, it means: Even if the government shuts-down a gun factory – a gun can still be made.

Turtle317 on May 4, 2013 at 9:48 AM

A gun can be made right now – today – without a factory. Heck, the prototype M1 was built in a prison. That’s right, a prison machine shop. It’s just that machining skills aren’t nearly as widespread as they used to be. (I’m looking to learn some for this very reason.)

GWB on May 4, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Where is Cozmo when I need him?
I have to read up on this 3D printing..
way over my head.
Interesting!

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM

…he can’t get his 3D pants off!

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 9:55 AM

And all we had as kids were “zip guns.”

(Later in life, learned to make them professionally.)

But this…? Pretty nifty.

How much would a decent printer cost? And what sort of “ink” do they use?

Would adapt the technology to my model railroad layout, of course.

coldwarrior on May 4, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Now they are going to outlaw printers!

xrayiiis on May 4, 2013 at 9:57 AM

You’re posting lots of old stuff here.

HotAir already has a story about Donny D and his “blood on the hands” and the Daily Currant story is satire. Well written, funny – but unfortunately not true.

Hill60 on May 4, 2013 at 9:50 AM

So fire me.

We can thank algore for preventing a lot of violence and bloodshed: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/347083/gore-i-prevented-violent-revolution-accepting-supreme-court-verdict

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 9:59 AM

CoffeeLover on May 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Crazy..I may know one of them.
Or went to school with one.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Hey B9 :) Life is amazing isn’t it? I pray for their safety.

CoffeeLover on May 4, 2013 at 9:59 AM

eon on May 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Excellent summary…and commentary.

coldwarrior on May 4, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Technology meet genie bottle.

The Ruling class worst nightmare……their inability to control THEIR subjects.

PappyD61 on May 4, 2013 at 10:01 AM

We need 3D printer background checks. And maybe a ban on assault 3D printers. And restrictions on the 3D printers assault clip capacity.

NotCoach on May 4, 2013 at 10:03 AM

eon on May 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Excellent summary…and commentary.

coldwarrior on May 4, 2013 at 9:59 AM

…no kidding!…I had to read it three times to realize…how stupid…I am!

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM

We need 3D printer background checks. And maybe a ban on assault 3D printers. And restrictions on the 3D printers assault clip capacity.

NotCoach on May 4, 2013 at 10:03 AM

…its going to cause the price of ink…to triple!

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Science overcomes once again. Nonpartisan once again trumped. Getting to be a regular thing here.

CW on May 4, 2013 at 10:07 AM

When government bans printers, only criminals will have printers.

coldwarrior on May 4, 2013 at 10:08 AM

A number of months ago I saw a news report about a company that was exploiting a loophole in gun registration and background checks if you build a gun yourself and never intend on selling it.

Soooo. you go to this company that owns a bunch of CNC milling machine. Pay them money, and they take you into the machine room and hand you a billit of steel. They instruct you to place it in the CNC machine and press the red button on the instrument panel.

bzzzz whiirrrrrr breeeee. Out comes your milled gun component. You buy the springs and seer components and then assemble it yourself. No government involvement at all. You didn’t buy a gun. You bought a block of steel and you formed it into the firearm of your choice, yourself.

kurtzz3 on May 4, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Hey B9 :) Life is amazing isn’t it? I pray for their safety.

CoffeeLover on May 4, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Small world eh?

The name sticks out to me..he also joined Westpoint after HS.
He was 2 years up from me but we were on the same sport team..
If its him..been over 20 years but a stand up guy.
Yes..pray for their safety.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:21 AM

…he can’t get his 3D pants off!

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 9:55 AM

snort*

He is well versed in firearms..I like his take.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Now, if you’re the same kind of sensitive, caring person as me, you’re probably sitting there thinking the same thing I was. “That is totally awesome. I have got to get me one of these.” But this does bring up some dicey subjects.

Numero uno is; learning the #$@**&&^%#%#!!!! software to create the 3D models to print!

The price on these things has dropped faster than the price of computers. You can now have one in your home.

There are several web based businesses that you can email your #D files to and they will print the part, model, sculpture etc. for you and send to you in about a week (its the backlog of projects).

There are free downloadable programs to make your project:

Blender
Sketchup
123D design (beta)

and several others.

The learning curve is long and these programs work much different than 2D graphics programs, so there isn’t a leg up for those familiar with Photoshop or Draw. #$@**&&^%#%#!!!!

Where is Cozmo when I need him?
I have to read up on this 3D printing..
way over my head.
Interesting!

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Looking at my computer screen and wondering if I need the hassle of another Sketchup tutorial.

Try them, play with them, see if it comes easier to you and I am just a 2D moron when it comes 3D (a distinct possibility).

This whole part of computers will grow, and it will grow fast once people figure out a 3D graphics program. 123D design (and their other 3D programs) show promise but work quirky on my machine.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Ask, and I receive.

Thx Coz! Morning.

I will be doing some research.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:27 AM

He is well versed in firearms..I like his take.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM

…he’s well versed in most everything!
…he thinks better with his pants off (:->)

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Thanks, eon. Very interesting. eon on May 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM

I don’t know the state of the art for this, but the strength of the barrel and chamber is what would be of key importance. It’s not enough that it looks right and has the right pieces, but it has to withstand the force of the firing. Otherwise, the firer would be in more danger than the target.

Kevin K. on May 4, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Guns are pretty simple and lo-tech.
Wait until they can print living plants and animals.

Kenosha Kid on May 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Technology meet genie bottle.

The Ruling class worst nightmare……their inability to control THEIR subjects.

PappyD61 on May 4, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Exactly!

He is well versed in firearms..I like his take.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM

It ain’t about firearms. I’ll stick with my metal and carbon fiber things that go bang.

This about getting what YOU want. Size, color, customized, whatever. Just tweak the design and print it. This is about having a warehouse with a printer, raw material and a shipping guy. Print a part for your out of production favorite blender. Or print a piece that will match the gouge in the picture frame your grandmother gave you years ago.

The trend setters will be hit hard and deservedly so. When you can print your own clothes (not that far fetched) and accessories, you can be stuck in the 80′s forever.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 10:35 AM

@kool

he has a big enough ego.don’t stroke it. ;)

Is that the prob? Libs, take of your pants and open up your narrow minds!

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM

you can be stuck in the 80′s forever.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 10:35 AM

I’m sold!

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM

No video of it being fired? I suspect the guy is having a hard time finding someone stupid enough to try it.

whatcat on May 4, 2013 at 10:42 AM

I’m sold!

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM

When you figure out one of the programs let me know…I have dozens of kits waiting for production. Most only need one little part that I cannot fabricate by hand well enough to put up for sale.

he has a big enough ego.don’t stroke it. ;)

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Not that big. Just done many and varied things over the years and can see how revolutionary a personal replicator can be.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM

kurtzz3 on May 4, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Ummm, finding that info and publishing it here would be REALLY HELPFUL to a lot of us! Please?

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM

And, you’re right, cozmo, 3D programs are a bit more complicated than using the red-eye function in Photoshop. But, it can be really great when you get a decent end product. (I am still a novice at it.)

GWB on May 4, 2013 at 10:51 AM

For an idea about what others are doing.

The guns get the attention, but 3D printing is so much more.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Libs, take of your pants and open up your narrow minds!

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Actually, I think that’s been tried. *cough* *hack*

GWB on May 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:37 AM
When you figure out one of the programs let me know…I have dozens of kits waiting for production. Most only need one little part that I cannot fabricate by hand well enough to put up for sale.

You don’t know B9. I am Technology challenged. Me figuring all that out..LOL- good luck. I need YOU to figure it out. :)

he has a big enough ego.don’t stroke it. ;)

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Not that big. Just done many and varied things over the years and can see how revolutionary a personal replicator can be.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM

I was teasing u. I do respect your knowledge on various topics..why I called on you.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Actually, I think that’s been tried. *cough* *hack*

GWB on May 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM

I thought they usually just opened their zippers..
or let it hang out the side of their women shorts.
Hack*
;)

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:59 AM

If all you want is a gun that will fire, a zip gun an be made from items readily available in a hardware store for less than $10. Probably more durable than a plastic gun.

novaculus on May 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM

I was teasing u.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

I know, and my ego is tough enough to take a little bruising.

Now stop talking about shorts! Its early and Mrs. cozmo is still sleeping.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM

hee hee
Have a good weekend Coz.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

The guns get the attention, but 3D printing is so much more.
cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 10:53 AM

I remember when we had to depend on Japan for worthless cheap crappy stuff that breaks within a few days. Now we can print our own at home – quite an advancement!

whatcat on May 4, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Let me know when the download for printable ammo is released.

roy_batty on May 4, 2013 at 8:41 AM

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Now that’s a FUNNY “reality check”, right there. : )

listens2glenn on May 4, 2013 at 11:09 AM

If all you want is a gun that will fire, a zip gun an be made from items readily available in a hardware store for less than $10. Probably more durable than a plastic gun.
novaculus on May 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM

But getting your hand blown off trying to shoot something you printed instead is way more cool.

whatcat on May 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Cant I just use my nail gun?
sorry..I’m blond.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM

whatcat on May 4, 2013 at 11:08 AM

I looked at as the beginning..technology and rapid advancement.
The genie coming out of the bottle…the future.
Beyond this one piece.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

“Gun, what gun officer?” as a pot sits on the stove melting the evidence and getting it ready to be turned into a plastic cup.

can_con on May 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Have you welded or clamped the safeties?

The old Hilti is is functional and sexy.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Some people will always be Luddites.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM

There is really no advantage for this.. Unless, you could replace your lower receiver with a plastic replacement that is not labeled traceable. Mechanics and durability will still be an issue until the technology is perfected. This will still not make the weapon non-traceable because the barrel is still FBI traceable thru ballistics. If this is perfected, barrel purchases will require a FFL to buy.

jjnco73 on May 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM

People will always find a way to defend themselves.

And it won’t be pretty, especially as people start developing the technologies.

Example: Wicked Lasers has some nice handheld ones that will blind a person at 750ft+ almost instantly.

In Britain, dogs. More people are treated for dog bites now than ever before, since they keep dogs as their first line of defense. And we aren’t talking Fluffy…

Thanks to science, we can find other technologies and methods that exist now to replace gunpowder, if necessary, to propel items in a path.

Let’s face it…America is founded on the recognized (not granted) Right of individuals to defend themselves against those that would harm them.

And we’ll do it again, if necessary.

ProfShadow on May 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Have you welded or clamped the safeties?

The old Hilti is is functional and sexy.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Why no, I haven’t.

Maybe you can help me out when I do my HA TX tour.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Okay, now my engine is really revving…

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 11:35 AM

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM

ahhhhhh…me like.
Thats bad a$$.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Coz..where you at in TX?

4Grace is my pal..she is up ear Amarillo.
My Uncle is outside of Dallas.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM

near

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Oh and Hornet sting is from TX..my HA BFF.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:39 AM

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM

In the shadow of downtown Dallas…long time urban pioneer. Since before they came up with the name urban pioneer.

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 11:45 AM

K, your on my map.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Meh, Mrs. cozmo got up…dragging me off shopping…something about e-cigs and I have to quit my last vice (flirting ain’t a vice). She promises to wear shorts…

cozmo on May 4, 2013 at 11:48 AM

lol-I am burning my brunch.
You sucked me in.
Have fun! Kisses to Mrs. Coz.

bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:49 AM

FREEDOM!!!

at an affordable price.

There’s still hope for America.

KirknBurker on May 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM

whatcat on May 4, 2013 at 11:08 AM

I looked at as the beginning..technology and rapid advancement.
The genie coming out of the bottle…the future.
Beyond this one piece.
bazil9 on May 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I was responding specifically to cozmo’s link, this is 1950s Made In Japan-worthy, even at 75 bucks.

But I wanna see a video of the idiot taking the “gun” in question here and fire off a few bursts at a shooting range. I’d suggest they notify the nearest ER in advance.

whatcat on May 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM

…its going to cause the price of ink…to triple!

KOOLAID2 on May 4, 2013 at 10:07 AM

If you can find ink at all. As we write, Barry has instructed federal departments and agencies to immediately purchase a 5 year stock of printer ink just to create a shortage and deny it to the 3D gun creating public. :)

He’s also signing an EO requiring computer printer registration and a 10 day waiting period for the purchase of computer printer ink as well.

hawkeye54 on May 4, 2013 at 12:02 PM

whatcat on May 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Exactly, a plastic toy gun is something that he can make.

However, there are 3D printers which use metal powders but the printers is not cheap by any stretch. These 3D printers are in fact used to make short runs of limited needed parts for things like gas turbines where casting and CNC machining would not be so cost effective.

BTW, someone noted making guns using garage lathes and milling machines. That is pretty much a lost art here in the U.S. The vast majority of machinists can do little more than operate computer controlled machine tools now.

Kermit on May 4, 2013 at 12:04 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/05/03/MSNBC-Donnie-Deutsch-Says-Pro-Gun-Senators-Literally-Have-Blood-On-Their-Hands

davidk on May 4, 2013 at 9:16 AM

I do enjoy this argument from the simpletons. Pure emotional rhetoric. By his viewpoint, all senators and lawmakers etc. have blood on their hands from every person who has died from an adverse reaction to a legally mandated vaccine. Oh, by the way, Congress exempted the vaccine companies from lawsuits for deaths. The gun makers can still be sued if they make a faulty product and they know such a fault can kill/hurt people. Yet the gun control crowd wants the gun makers to be sued for every death due to a gun.

oryguncon on May 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM

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