Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on May 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

President Obama said there is one thing he absolutely won’t compromise on in immigration reform: a pathway to citizenship. But as for what he would be willing to give up, he won’t say…

The president praised the bill produced by the Gang of Eight as a “good piece of work” that doesn’t include everything Obama would have wanted but stiil meets his “core requirements,” which include provisions to crack down on companies who hire illegal immigrants, streamline legal immigration, and strengthen border security as well as to create the pathway.

“If those components are there, then I would expect that not only would I be supportive, but also I think we can get it through the House,” he said. “It’s the right thing to do, it’s the smart thing to do.”

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Since my colleagues and I introduced immigration legislation, intense public scrutiny has helped identify shortcomings and unintended consequences that need to be addressed. Many concerned citizens have gone a step further and offered specific ideas to improve it. This kind of constructive criticism is a positive force that should always be welcomed in the political process…

For those who have suggested that the border security triggers outlined in the Senate bill aren’t strong enough, we now have a chance to strengthen them. For those who expressed concerns about giving the federal government too much discretionary power through waivers and exceptions in applying different aspects of the law, we have a chance to make clear exactly how the executive branch must enforce this immigration law and what the consequences are if it doesn’t. For those concerned about the cost of immigration to American taxpayers, we have a chance to make sure the bill lives up to its promise that today’s illegal immigrants are not eligible for federal benefits.

And for those who believe the road ahead for illegal immigrants is too generous or lenient, Congress will have a chance to make it tougher, yet still realistic. No one has a right to violate the immigration laws and remain here with impunity. Finding a sensible way to resolve our illegal-immigration problem must include penalties that show the rest of the world that it really is cheaper, easier and faster to immigrate to the U.S. the right way…

The immigration-reform bill in the Senate is a solid starting point for solving this problem, and I believe it can be made even better as Congress begins to actively work on it in committee next week. But defeating it without offering an alternative cannot be the conservative position on immigration reform. That would leave the issue entirely in the hands of President Obama and leave in place the disastrous status quo.

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The irony in all this, of course, is that most of the top Republicans favor a Gang of 8 plan, and it is warmly embraced by fiscal, social and national security conservatives. That’s because there is little conservative virtue in opposing a plan that is good for the economy, embodies religious values and helps secure the border, in contrast to the current de facto amnesty situation.

Legitimate opponents of the legislation would be wise to denounce the kooks on their side but also to recognize that a good deal of the conservative movement disagrees with them. Their opposition is not all that ”conservative,” although it does bespeak a lack of confidence in the ability of conservatives to appeal (as George W. Bush did) to Hispanic voters.

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After failing to con conservatives into thinking the “Gang of 8″ bill had “tough multiple enforcement triggers,”** Sen. Marco Rubio is vowing to support changes in the legislation he allegedly negotiated and repeatedly defended. (“Sen. Rubio Says Immigration Bill Needs Stronger Border Provisions to Pass Senate.”) This is not a sign Rubio has had success in his role as Ambassador of Amnesty.

Will Democrats (or even the three other GOP members of the “Gang”) go along with rewriting the bill’s carefully constructed framework of deception, in which the border security ‘triggers,” as amnesty lobbyist Frank Sharry admitted, “are based on developing plans and spending money, not on reaching [the target level of] effectiveness, which is really quite clever”? Will they modify the “path to citizenship,” the core of the bill, as Rubio also suggests? I suspect not…

When Democrats fail to significantly toughen the bill, will Sen. Rubio go along with it anyway? That one’s easy: Yes.

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Ambassador of Amnesty Marco Rubio argues on Powerline–or rather, “Marco Rubio” argues, since the words are attributed only to his “office”**–that critics overstate the number of new immigrants who would be added by his legalization bill:

“There are approximately 11 million illegals currently in the US, and many of them won’t be eligible for legalization (because they haven’t been here long enough, don’t pass background checks, can’t afford the fines, etc.) and will have to be deported. [E.A]”

Really? We’re going to deport a significant chunk of the 11 million–and not just because they’ve arrived since 2011 (the cutoff), but because they don’t scratch together enough money (initially, $1,000) for fines? Would Sen. Schumer and Cecilia Munoz go along with this characterization of the legislation? Answer: no. It’s not going to happen. Rubio–and his “office”–are cementing his new national reputation as a dissembler

And how are these mass deportations going to help Republicans woo Latino voters?

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So any rational immigration reform that respected the interests of the American people would attempt to reorient present policy. Instead, the Gang of Eight’s bill will cement it, and accelerate it. According to Numbers USA, if the immigration bill passed, it would increase the legal population of the United States by 33 million in its first decade. That figure includes 11.7 million amnestied illegals and their children, plus 17 million family members imported through chain migration, with a few software designers on business visas to round out the numbers.

Thirty-three million is like importing the entire population of Canada . . . oh, wait, we did that shtick three paragraphs ago. Okay, if you’re black, look at it this way: The demographic clout it took you guys four centuries to amass can now be accomplished overnight at a stroke of Chuck Schumer’s and Lindsey Graham’s pens. And, if you belong to the 40 percent of Americans who’ll be encountering many of these “chain migrants” in the application line for low-skilled service jobs, isn’t it great to know that in this gangbusters economy you’re going to have to pedal even faster just to go nowhere?

Speaking of demographic clout, the main reason for not importing 33 million Canadians is that they’re supposedly a bunch of liberal pantywaists and the Republican party would never be elected to anything ever again. But fortunately 33 million Latin Americans are, as we’ve been assured time and again by Charles Krauthammer and other eminent voices, “a natural conservative constituency” — which I think translates into Spanish as “una parte del electorado conservador natural.” I Googled this phrase and it got no hits, so perhaps Dr. Krauthammer got lost in translation. But I’ll take his word for it that, once America assumes the demographics of California, the Republican party will be unstoppable.

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[W]hat if Romney had been able to reach a mind-blowing 70 percent of the Hispanic vote? Surely that would have meant victory, right? No, it wouldn’t. Romney still would have lost, although by the narrowest of electoral margins, 270 to 268. (Under that scenario, Romney would have won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College; he could have racked up huge numbers of Hispanic votes in California, New York and Texas, for example, and not changed the results in those states.)…

Everyone knows the Hispanic vote will grow in the future. But if 2012 voting patterns remain the same — whites voting in lower numbers but about 60 percent for Republicans, blacks and Asians turning out in large numbers and voting 90-plus percent and 70-plus percent, respectively, for Democrats — Republicans will have to win an astonishingly high percentage of the Hispanic vote to capture the White House.

It is simply not reasonable to believe there is something the GOP can do — pass immigration reform, juice up voter-outreach efforts — that will create that result.

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No doubt, the status quo makes it easier for Democrats to portray Republicans as anti-Hispanic and is a barrier to Republicans winning over this fast-growing demographic. On the other hand, Democrats will portray Republicans as anti-Hispanic no matter what, and the immigration bill, should it become law, would almost certainly create more Democratic voters than Republican ones. A Pew poll published last year found that while Hispanics are more pro-life than the national average, they’re more likely to identify as liberal than the general public. Also, when asked for a preference between a bigger government with more services or a smaller government with fewer services, 41 percent of the country as a whole favored bigger government, but 75 percent of Hispanics did. Among first generation Hispanics, 81 percent favored bigger government — or roughly double the national average, compared with just 12 percent who favored smaller government.

When it comes to the politics of immigration, Republicans are screwed either way. So they may as well ignore the politics and vote for their preferred policy outcomes.

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In Mexico, I also talked about immigration reform, because that’s an important issue that affects both our countries.

The truth is, right now, our border with Mexico is more secure than it’s been in years. We’ve put more boots on that border than at any time in our history, and illegal crossings are down by nearly 80 percent from their peak in 2000. But we’ve got more to do – not just to secure the border but to fix an immigration system that is badly broken.

In recent weeks, we’ve seen a commonsense immigration reform bill introduced in the Senate. This bill is a compromise, which means that nobody got everything they wanted – including me. But it’s largely consistent with the principles I’ve laid out from the beginning.


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STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY!!! DO YOU HEAR ME?

Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 1:31 AM

….but seriously – you Have to LOVE “Suicidal Tendencies”, don’t you?

Just the fact that they were able to have anything even RESEMBLING a “commercial career” says something about the refined state of development of our music and entertainment industry…..doesn’t it?

williamg on May 5, 2013 at 2:14 AM

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:09 AM

Me likey. The whole freaking sound track to the movie is stunningly beautiful.

SparkPlug on May 5, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Excellent..Both the book and the movie..:)

Dire Straits on May 5, 2013 at 2:15 AM

THAT was weird… hmmmmmmm, I clicked on Schads song link and got kicked off the ‘net!!!!

BTW Schad, how did you find that! It’s wonderful :-)
Dire Straits on May 5, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Excellent. Clarity. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Crazy. Huge. No words. :)

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Ummmmmmm I had one too many beers… oopsie I meant Dire’s link…

I think!

My my…

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:07 AM

*wife is asleep*..Me and Salma Hayek are sitting here drinking a beer and enjoying the thread..:)

Dire Straits on May 5, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Totally like spiffy :-D

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:18 AM

*wife is asleep*..Me and Salma Hayek are sitting here drinking a beer and enjoying the thread..:)

Dire Straits on May 5, 2013 at 2:17 AM

LOL — Um . . . good night for it. :)

Hey, I told Resist your voice was “medium,” and asked her what her’s was. Know what her answer was? You’ll never guess. “Sort of a purrr.” Anyway, with you buddy. :)

Watch that snake though. :)

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:17 AM

That is awesome music..:)

Dire Straits on May 5, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:07 AM

What sells is the human interaction, the human experience. The rest is just gratis. Remember what I said about BIOS? It’s about the humans and their interaction, reaction, and ultimately, their fate. You worried that I’d have to plow through a lot of expository stuff or have some character spouting tech stuff to get the details out about the disaster. I don’t. Its enough that its a disaster and the reader knows the basics of what, why and the story is about what it means to the characters. IF we write about what we know, even if its fiction, it has gravity… the weight of truth. It enfolds the reader because the characters are ‘real’ to them, and they become sympathetic, the reader is invested in their experience and their fate. Faulkner. Fitzgerald. Hemingway.

Too cool you went there on your own. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Totally like spiffy :-D

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:18 AM

dude.

*sip*

1. I signed it “Chrissy.” Change?

2. I’ll link back to your blog tomorrow sometime, probably. I’ll link back though.

PS: Glad you found a home. :)

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:23 AM

No words. :)

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:17 AM

LOL! That’s okay… I had plenty. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:23 AM

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Ok, all this tech talk about stories… hmmmmm…

If you and Axe are collaboratin’ on a book…

I gotta have it!!!!

It’s killin’ me!

When is it coming out :-)

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:04 AM

It’s an excellent start. ..I like it. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:25 AM

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:23 AM

Chrissy is way cool :)

Sure! I don’t know how to do that stuff… be my guest (:

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:26 AM

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:24 AM

No collaboration, at least not so far… :)

Just shop talk. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:26 AM

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:26 AM

I like the ‘shop talk’!!

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:27 AM

“lights up a cig”

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Too cool you went there on your own. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Jackie. Something. I can lay on that couch, so to speak, and I can make the reader feel her heartbeat. Just right now. This will sound ridiculous, but I’m really serious — I forgot what love was. Is that not . . . Anyway, when I turn my imagination from, say, family time, whatever you’d like, to the “plot” — when I move from the emotional composition in my mind to “a sequence of unfortunate events,” it seems hollow. Is that clear? I might not be getting this out. How do you get any gravity into the movement? Part of my writing just in one moment got significantly heavier-weight here . . . but now, the rest seems awfully thin. Like deep color and then . . . back to washed out.

. . . how do you put weight in motion?

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on May 5, 2013 at 2:31 AM

Dance Me To The End Of Love – Cohen

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:32 AM

williamg on May 5, 2013 at 2:31 AM

Good night will/i/am/g :-)

Good choice ^5

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:33 AM

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:32 AM

That song has ‘weight’… (:

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:33 AM

We come to love not by finding a perfect person, but by learning to see an imperfect person perfectly.

1st comment on utube…

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:35 AM

Dance Me To The End Of Love – Cohen

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:32 AM

On the Cohen song above … oh boy am all befuddled tonite!!

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:36 AM

channel-b/Climbatize

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on May 5, 2013 at 2:31 AM

lol

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:37 AM

That! I like… bookmarked :-)

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:40 AM

. . . how do you put weight in motion?

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Just like Newton:

F=ma

Force equals mass times acceleration, acceleration is the rate at which velocity is increasing,

Mass is the amount of matter in an object.
Weight is the effect of gravity on a given mass. Hence,

W=mg
Weight =Mass times the acceleration due to Gravity

W=Fd

Work is a Force through a distance. like a physics friend of mine once said: Rocking chairs do a LOT of “work” – but they never get anywhere…..

williamg on May 5, 2013 at 2:41 AM

lol –

“I’ve had one too many beers”

“That’s an excellent beginning.”

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:41 AM

For dire sometimes i just have to play this for someone who left me many years ago. I miss you lil’ buddy.
nite all
adios: vaya con dios
Fred

wish you were here

jrsrigmvr on May 5, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Just like Newton:

F=ma

Force equals mass times acceleration, acceleration is the rate at which velocity is increasing,

Mass is the amount of matter in an object.
Weight is the effect of gravity on a given mass. Hence,

W=mg
Weight =Mass times the acceleration due to Gravity

W=Fd

Work is a Force through a distance. like a physics friend of mine once said: Rocking chairs do a LOT of “work” – but they never get anywhere…..

williamg on May 5, 2013 at 2:41 AM

I’m going to mull this.

^ This is why crazy people should be allowed to speak.

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Oh my, My head is a little spun :-)

I am off to lala land…

God Bless!! Sweet dreams sweet dreamers…

* swoosh *

My nite isn’t complete unless I end my day here…

Nitey nite!!!

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:29 AM

As the inspiration and that feeling grips you, write that.. and only that. Then… set it aside. Wait for that same moment to come to you again, and it will if you don’t try to force it… and write that. When you’ve literally practiced that effortless flow enough, ( which is what you’d be doing) it will come more readily, and more frequently. You’ll be able to summon it. And then, when you have enough of these sections written out, you’ll read back over it and you’ll suddenly have another moment of clarity about how they should fit for what it is that you’re trying to express. You’ll see that if you rewrite certain things, emphasizing an event or a character, adding or editing, that the story will solidify and take on that weight.

A story arc is always the same. You have a beginning when you set your stage, introduce the protagonist and antagonist, and then you have the body of the story,you’re protagonist will reach his/her lowest ebb at that 2/3 mark ( more or less…give or take a few pages) its then that you enter the final third of the work, the resolution. Your moments that you’ve written together in ‘free write’ ( which is what you’re describing) will come together in this frame work. You’ll see. And the gravity, the weight and momentum that you seek will be forged in that melding of the pieces you’re laying out and the rewrites you make.

Every writer has their own process for getting the story out and putting it in form. Yours sounds like its going to come in bursts of free writing. This is not unusual for a poet who is working in fiction. It is a process.

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:44 AM

Sweetest Goodnights, Good People…..I think I will adopt this as my signature sign-off tune……..

williamg on May 5, 2013 at 2:31 AM

And g’night. :)

wish you were here

jrsrigmvr on May 5, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Night Fred

Nitey nite!!!

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Night Scrump. :)

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:45 AM

Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Goodnight, Spritely One. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:45 AM

I’m going to mull this.

^ This is why crazy people should be allowed to speak.

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:43 AM

:-) !

God Bless us everyone!

williamg on May 5, 2013 at 2:46 AM

jrsrigmvr on May 5, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Goodnight, Fred. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:46 AM

williamg on May 5, 2013 at 2:41 AM

Goodnight, Williamg. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:48 AM

jackie: I forgot to thank you way up thread for playing my song. See I kinda got my eye on you too.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on May 5, 2013 at 2:49 AM

jrsrigmvr on May 5, 2013 at 2:49 AM

Always a pleasure, Fred. And I’m glad you do. Thank you. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:51 AM

Fade To Black – Dire Straits

I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM

As the inspiration and that feeling grips you, write that.. and only that. Then… set it aside. Wait for that same moment to come to you again, and it will if you don’t try to force it… and write that. When you’ve literally practiced that effortless flow enough, ( which is what you’d be doing) it will come more readily, and more frequently. You’ll be able to summon it. And then, when you have enough of these sections written out, you’ll read back over it and you’ll suddenly have another moment of clarity about how they should fit for what it is that you’re trying to express. You’ll see that if you rewrite certain things, emphasizing an event or a character, adding or editing, that the story will solidify and take on that weight.

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:44 AM

This is clumsy, but — that’s like a poem, just wider. That’s exactly what you do with words and structures, line by line, word by word. Takes what it takes. :) It’s just that the parts are bigger.

I think I see what you are saying. I think. :)

You didn’t answer my question directly though. But that’s because I couldn’t understand it myself, so I couldn’t write it out. I’ll think it through. :) [secret: it took me three days to write my "silly ballad," and it's broken in exactly two places. :) One word, one structre. If you see what I'm saying.]

Wow. What an important night. And no fireworks in evidence. :)

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM

I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM

G’night, graceful Jackie.

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:56 AM

Axe on May 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM

You know where to find me. :) We can discuss these things anytime you like. :)

Goodnight, Axefellow.:)

Goodnight, Paladin. :)

thatsafactjack on May 5, 2013 at 2:56 AM

Perhaps if Rubio were willing to engage with the law abiding rather than the law breaking.

VorDaj on May 5, 2013 at 7:26 AM

Sorry but Rubio is just either completely stupid or he is selling his position to big business interests that want an open border and tens of millions more illegals as cheap labor!

But why sellout Senator Rubio??????

To prove to big business you can sell the idea and get it passed and have their millions of $$$$$$ in donations for 2016???

These lying sacks of shinola in DC that won’t just SECURE THE BORDER first KNOW what they are doing. They are paving the way for the dissolution of the sovereignty of the US.

PappyD61 on May 5, 2013 at 7:30 AM

O/T: I will probably catch a lot of grief over this one. But, it’s time to speak the truth and shame the Devil. “It’s That Content of Their Character Thingy…Again” My take.

kingsjester on May 5, 2013 at 8:03 AM

kingsjester on May 5, 2013 at 8:03 AM

If you catch flak, it’s because you are right over the target. Truth isn’t popular.

indypat on May 5, 2013 at 8:12 AM

I wonder if Hotair has ever considered an open Chat feature? I’m mostly interested in what others have to say on a particular topic and when the majority of posts are off topic I just give up rather than wade through 90% of them to read opinions on the topic at hand.

celt on May 5, 2013 at 8:24 AM

indypat on May 5, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on May 5, 2013 at 8:25 AM

O/T: I will probably catch a lot of grief over this one. But, it’s time to speak the truth and shame the Devil. “It’s That Content of Their Character Thingy…Again” My take.

kingsjester on May 5, 2013 at 8:03 AM

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If you catch flak, it’s because you are right over the target. Truth isn’t popular.

indypat on May 5, 2013 at 8:12 AM

.
All “white-crackers” owe the ‘descendents of slaves’ a debt of goods (financial/material), services, and displaying an attitude of shame, guilt, and condemnation for being born “white-crackers”.

Ya gotta problem with that?

listens2glenn on May 5, 2013 at 8:32 AM

And how are these mass deportations going to help Republicans woo Latino voters?

If they think they can mass deport the illegals here after 2011 who can’t pay a fine why can’t they find and deport them now? Rubio needs to stop putting himself in their shoes and asking himself, what if that was me. Where do they come up with that 11M figure anyway? Must be close enough for govt work.

Kissmygrits on May 5, 2013 at 9:27 AM

kingsjester on May 5, 2013 at 8:03 AM

…*Grief!*

KOOLAID2 on May 5, 2013 at 9:34 AM

KOOLAID2 on May 5, 2013 at 9:34 AM

I know. I’m Politically Incorrect, aren’t I?

kingsjester on May 5, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Well CBS Sunday Morning show just ran a hit piece on America and their evil Mexican/American war. They also approved the old Absolute Vodka ad depicting Mexico as 1/2 of America because that’s the way it used to be. The story also approved of illegal immigration because, after all, 1/2 the US used to belong to Mexico. They never mentioned the fact that the Mexicans took that land from the Indians. Evidently, the Mexicans taking land from the natives is ok, only the white America is evil for doing that.

It was truly a one-sided hit piece on America. The border will never be fixed because the media won’t allow it.

Ibanez Lotus on May 5, 2013 at 10:30 AM

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