Ramirez, Crowder on Gosnell

posted at 10:41 am on May 3, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

While we wait for the jury to finish its deliberations in the Kermit Gosnell trial — which, as I wrote on Tuesday, will take quite a while — we can continue to look at the meaning of the issues that the trial raises.  At least, we can do that among those paying any attention at all to the trial.  Steven Crowder returns with a new vox populi video that shows people well informed about the Boston Marathon attack (with one hilarious exception), less so about the explosion in West Texas, and utterly ignorant of the Gosnell trial:

All right, so people aren’t paying attention to the Gosnell trial, despite JD Mullane’s excellent reporting from the courtroom.  Hey, at least we’re paying attention to Jodi Arias — doesn’t that count for something?  After all, what does the Gosnell trial really mean or say about our society, anyway?  Michael Ramirez, the Pulitzer Prize-winning editorial cartoonist for Investors Business Daily, put the Gosnell trial in stark, uncompromising terms earlier this week:

ramirez-gosnell

Too much?  No, says my friend Fr. Marcel Guarnizo, the theologian and philosopher.  In a lengthy essay for CNS News, the Gosnell horror and the widespread practice of late-term abortion is just another reminder of the banality and ubiquity of evil, this time aimed at unborn but viable children:

As I have related before, Leroy Carhart had to install his own personalincinerator at his abortion mill to burn the cadavers of his victims. This, after a journalist took a picture of a dog consuming the body of one of the aborted babies in the public incinerator (where Carhart previously disposed of the infants’ corpses).

This should be the image that comes to mind when we think of Planned Parenthood and the abortionists-not fancy dinners and flowing glasses of champagne with President Obama. No, rather a ravenous beast consuming our children.

We have an equally vivid image of Gosnell dealing with the same “problems.” In Gosnell’s house of horrors, babies were stuffed down the toilet, put in shoe boxes, decapitated, and dismembered. There were body parts, blood, and death everywhere. What else do we need, to recognize that abortion is but the whole-scale massacre of an unprotected group of Americans (for they are born on our soil)?

Someday, future generations will gaze in amazement at pictures which will be shown publicly for the record, of bishops and cardinals gleefully socializing with politicians engaged in keeping the abortion industry alive and well in America. The complete silence of so many, the open door policies of our churches to those who openly call “good evil and evil good,” the easy distribution of Holy Communion to such people, and the hollow rationalizations, will all come back to haunt us, some day. Future generations will then ask of us, “What were you thinking? What were you doing after 1973?” These are precisely the same questions that haunted so many Germans when their children and grandchildren asked, “What were you doing during the war?”

Unfortunately, those who have fought valiantly for the abolition of abortion, may not be remembered so easily. And so much of the complicity of the media and their political cohorts, will one day be left bare for all to see how systematic was the effort to keep a nation in darkness and ignorant of the real horrors of abortion.

Be sure to read it all.

Also, be sure to check out Ramirez’ terrific collection of his works: Everyone Has the Right to My Opinion, which covers the entire breadth of Ramirez’ career, and it gives fascinating look at political history.  Read my review here, and watch my interviews with Ramirez here and here.  And don’t forget to check out the entire Investors.com site, which has now incorporated all of the former IBD Editorials, while individual investors still exist.

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LeftCoastRight on May 3, 2013 at 10:47 AM

The Final Solution. It took a World War to stop it the first time. Some things never change.

BobMbx on May 3, 2013 at 10:47 AM

The Final Solution. It took a World War to stop it the first time. Some things never change.

BobMbx on May 3, 2013 at 10:47 AM

“The Toxic Solution”.

VegasRick on May 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Just call them sentient skin tags and the horror is averted. I mean who really likes skin tags, right?

Bishop on May 3, 2013 at 10:55 AM

And maybe this is a good time to head for Gander Mountain before the black-souled ghouls show up to preach about an infant’s lack of humanity and inherent worthlessness until they can actually contribute something to society.

Keepthechange and thuja, I’m looking at you creepshows.

Bishop on May 3, 2013 at 10:57 AM

My heart aches when I see that cartoon.

portlandon on May 3, 2013 at 10:58 AM

I am infuriated at the stupidity of the average American. For years I’ve seen these morons in every crowd I been obliged to be in. Idiots who do not seem to understand that the behavior at a band concert isn’t the same as at a ballgame. Folks who use foul language in front of children, the crudity of rap lyrics, in short the dumbing down of America. This crosses all racial lines, socio-economic lines and isn’t limited to just one group of Americans. The result is the lowinfovo who can’t see that he is voting for his own destruction. But all that pales in comparison to those who don’t know anything about the Gosnell horrors. I realize that a lot of that blame can be placed at the hands of the LSM who refuse to cover this trial but the information is out there for anyone to see. This group of brain-dead 20 somethings know all the details about Reece Witherspoons recent DWI arrest but don’t know a d–n thing about Gosnell? I fear for my country with idiots such as this seemingly a majority these days.

neyney on May 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Surprising how the media in the USA has turned in the last six years into a better propaganda organization than Pravda ever was. At least the Russians all knew that Pravda was nothing but lies and misdirection.

jukin3 on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Well that didn’t take long, I suppose I should have simply run out of the shop and hauled azs.

A net positive for society? O_o

Jeebus.

Bishop on May 3, 2013 at 11:04 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

WTF?

katy the mean old lady on May 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

My heart aches when I see that cartoon.

portlandon on May 3, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Yeah.

workingclass artist on May 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

I broke into tears when reading the first graph of Fr. Marcel’s article. For those of us who love babies, but who have not been blessed with any for one reason or another, it’s very painful to see this kind of thing happen. I can’t begin to imagine the pain and wrath that God must feel. Lord have mercy.

chelie on May 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Do you know the difference between a back alley abortion and a late term abortion?
The lighting…

Gwillie on May 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

What he did and other like him still do is wrong in every conceivable way. There is nothing positive about it and it’s rather disgusting and offensive you would say such a thing.

dogsoldier on May 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

You are one sick puppy.

portlandon on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

The PerPetual NeverEnding Baby Trains to Their Dooms Story!

Rameriz nails it,as per usual!

canopfor on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Do you know the difference between a back alley abortion and a late term abortion?
The lighting…

Gwillie on May 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Compared to Gosnell’s abattoir the alley is cleaner, more sterile, and less dangerous.

Bishop on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

WTF?

katy the mean old lady on May 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

those babies would’ve been born into households that don’t want them

the parents would’ve likely applied for welfare, etc and sucked up taxpayer money

think about it, the tsarnaevs used $100k of taxpayer money…wouldn’t the world have been much better had the tsarnaev brothers just been aborted at birth

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs
nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

No, it’s just the opposite.

Ed, thank you for this post and your unwavering support of the unborn.

NebCon on May 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

How much are you worth to society? I’m doing a cost-benefit analysis to determine whether you live or die.

BobMbx on May 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM

WTF?

katy the mean old lady on May 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Now see what you did? It’s like asking Chuck Manson why he killed Sharon Tate, you know there isn’t a sane reason and when he’s done answering you want to bathe yourself in liquid bleach.

Bishop on May 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM

those babies would’ve been born into households that don’t want them

the parents would’ve likely applied for welfare, etc and sucked up taxpayer money

think about it, the tsarnaevs used $100k of taxpayer money…wouldn’t the world have been much better had the tsarnaev brothers just been aborted at birth

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

From the party that gives us “It’s worth every $ if it saves only one life”….from that party that runs up $6 tril in debt in 4+ years…NOW YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT SPENDING???

hillsoftx on May 3, 2013 at 11:14 AM

I’m pretty sure that the Gosnell clinic cats were well fed too.

slickwillie2001 on May 3, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Michael Ramirez depiction is brilliant.

oldleprechaun on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

You’re in the same camp as Josef Mengele. Pure evil.

rbj on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I watched this Documentry,a few days ago:

Irena Sendler:

Irena Sendler (née Krzyżanowska, also referred to as Irena Sendlerowa in Poland, Nom de guerre Jolanta; 15 February 1910 – 12 May 2008)[1] was a Polish Roman Catholic nurse/social worker who served in the Polish Underground during World War II,

and as head of children’s section of Żegota,[2][3] an underground resistance organization in German-occupied Warsaw. Assisted by some two dozen other Żegota members,

Sendler smuggled some 2,500 Jewish children out of the Warsaw

Ghetto and then provided them with false identity documents and with housing outside the Ghetto, saving those children during the Holocaust.[4]
=============

The Nazis eventually discovered her activities, tortured her, and sentenced her to death, but she managed to evade execution and survive the war.

In 1965,

Sendler was recognized by the State of Israel

as a Righteous among the Nations.

Late in life she was awarded Poland’s highest honor for her wartime humanitarian efforts. She appears on a silver 2009 Polish commemorative coin honoring some of the Polish Righteous among the Nations.(More…)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler

canopfor on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

From the party that gives us “It’s worth every $ if it saves only one life”….from that party that runs up $6 tril in debt in 4+ years…NOW YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT SPENDING???

hillsoftx on May 3, 2013 at 11:14 AM

I belong to no party sir

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Only one person had heard of it?

Oy.

Bob's Kid on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Were you born before, or after 1973?

portlandon on May 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM

How much are you worth to society? I’m doing a cost-benefit analysis to determine whether you live or die.

BobMbx on May 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM

You’re doing it wrong. NonPee used the words “probably” and “likely” so you can feel free to use them too.

NonPee will “probably” be a burden on society in the near future and will “likely” be a drain on public finances, therefore he can be exterminated in the name of sound economic policy.

Bishop on May 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM

A simple question:

How many innocent humans died the same day as the Boston Bombing at the hands of our domestic legal terrorists called doctors who specialize in the taking of precious helpless individual lives?

Don L on May 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM

How much are you worth to society? I’m doing a cost-benefit analysis to determine whether you live or die.

BobMbx on May 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM

I do it too but I don’t know why any of us even responds to the ghoul.

VegasRick on May 3, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Now see what you did? It’s like asking Chuck Manson why he killed Sharon Tate, you know there isn’t a sane reason and when he’s done answering you want to bathe yourself in liquid bleach.

Bishop on May 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Bishop:And what they did,to Tate and the baby,…..ick beyond
description(s)!:)

canopfor on May 3, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Hey, you know this meme?

‘You want an overpopulated earth? You want to keep paying taxes for babies that are born to crackheads? You really want that? You really want a population of people that were born on drugs? That are born into welfare? You want to keep paying for that shit? ‘Cause I don’t.’

– Pro-choice activist on the campus of Ohio State University tearing up pro-life signs

‘Homicide rates are down since the 90′s due almost in total to abortion. 20 yrs after abortion is legalized, homicides fall and keep falling. Because so many potential killers were never born, especially in urban areas.’

– Allidunce, Blacks Should Embrace NRA Gun Proposal, 31 December 2012

It has been pushed by the Left forever. I’ve seen it made here by a few of the trolls.

Well, it has been debunked on numerous occasions, but most importantly, the study upon which it was based was destroyed and the data proven to have been flawed, which even the two authors (one, an admitted plagiarist) admitted. The hammer was swung…twice…by the Federal Reserve of Boston:

The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime

Testing Economic Hypotheses with State-Level Data

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Armin, thuja, and keep the change to follow soon after…

It’s a Zombie Jamboree.(h/t…The Kingston Trio)

Back to back, belly to belly…

kingsjester on May 3, 2013 at 11:23 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

I’ll do libfreeordie’s job here:

What you really mean is “It doesn’t matter because they were black babies, so they just would have grown up to be gangbangers or drug dealers.”

Good Solid B-Plus on May 3, 2013 at 11:23 AM

I belong to no party sir

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I think I know which party you caucus with…

jdpaz on May 3, 2013 at 11:23 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

You’re in the same camp as Josef Mengele. Pure evil.

rbj on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Yeppers. Nobrain, the ‘Harvard Law graduate’ (snort), is quite a piece of work…and a racist one at that:

‘also, a large portion of abortions are done by poor minorities…these babies if born would likely be on welfare…’

nonpartisan on April 26, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM

think about it, the tsarnaevs used $100k of taxpayer money…wouldn’t the world have been much better had the tsarnaev brothers just been aborted at birth

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Agreed. Now all you have to do is figure out a method of determining who will grow up to be a terrorist and who will be the incredible inventor or discoverer.

Wouldn’t the world have been much better had Tsarnaev brothers Jonas Salk just been aborted at birth?

You creep me out.

Bishop on May 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

The cost to society from the abortion industry has been tremendous a cost we can never recover.
The crimes of Gosnell have only served to shine a light on the darkness in spite of the MSM efforts to hide it. Gosnell’s crimes, hideous things, allowed under a politically constructed shield of false rights, protected by determined ideologues, endorsed by follow abortion providers who referred their own girls to his clinic knowing full well Gosnell would break the law they would not.
If you want to claim something good came from this then the good is that no longer can the left just say (well not truthfully) we are some anti-abortion nuts saying these things happen. This is what happens!
We have been given a tool in our efforts to save the lives of innocents, this tool requires that what happened at the Gosnell Clinic be reported The Media will not so we must.

Gwillie on May 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I belong to no party sir

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Your statement re parties, may be accurate, but are certainly property of the god of this world.

oldleprechaun on May 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM

are you seriously pulling the race card on me? and you consider yourself conservative?

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Load of BS nonpartisan – you don’t hate to say what you did.

You revel in it. It excites you.

You are the perfect encapsulation of the poltical left. You scream for welfare and dependency for everyone as an intrinsic collective right, but then when discussing the value of any individual human they are just a cost to the system – and an abortion must be lauded as a cost saved.

Evil. Evil. EVIL.

BKennedy on May 3, 2013 at 11:26 AM

NonPee will “probably” be a burden on society in the near future and will “likely” be a drain on public finances, therefore he can be exterminated in the name of sound economic policy.

Bishop on May 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM

I’m cool with that.

katy the mean old lady on May 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

OMG! I know exactly where “everytown USA” is because I used to live there. And yeah, the people are really that obtuse when it comes to most national stories.

Happy Nomad on May 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

nonpartisan- I get that you like to come here and throw rocks in the water to watch the waves, but how can any reasonable literate person write such a sentence? You do this knowing that you are philosophically lining yourself up with Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and every other pragmatic butcher in history? Dude?!?

ndalager on May 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

The evil with Gosnell and the evil of “the camps” is the same.

With the camps, after a while, everybody just came to accept them as normal…and many many cheered…few were willing to step up and point out that there was evil…but the rest, either fully supported it or did not wanted to get pointed out as “one of those” should they actually step up and say something about the horrible horrible things happening right in their neighborhoods.

Yes, Gosnell is evil. Sanger was evil. Planned Parenthood is evil.

But, you know what? What is more evil are the millions and millions of Americans who not only have come to accept this sort of stuff as commonplace…they demand it is some kind of “right.” And they demand YOU PAY FOR IT.

Your neighbors, kids’ teachers, coaches, folks in your church,in your office, all over the place, too many see absolutely nothing wrong with this.

That is wherein evil lives, festers and grows…

If this is how we treat innocents…

If this is right.

What is there left to be called wrong?

coldwarrior on May 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Steven Crowder returns with a new vox populi video that shows people well informed about the Boston Marathon attack (with one hilarious exception), less so about the explosion in West Texas, and utterly ignorant of the Gosnell trial:

The Koch brothers or some like-minded philanthropists with deep pockets could do a lot of good by purchasing some air time and running a documentary that shows moving ultrasounds of babies and graphic pictures of the results of late term abortions. Liberals would cry foul but everyone would be talking about it.

I am convinced that very few women would have a late term abortion if they were required to have an ultrasound and view the pictures before hand.

hopeful on May 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM

I belong to no party sir

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Democrats don’t want you either?

Happy Nomad on May 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM

I can’t begin to imagine the pain and wrath that God must feel. Lord have mercy.

chelie on May 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

I can’t begin to imagine the pain and wrath that God must feel. Lord have mercy.

Lord have mercy.

Lourdes on May 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

are you seriously pulling the race card on me? and you consider yourself conservative?

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM

You are a racist and I have NEVER claimed to be or called myself a conservative, idjit. I’M A LIBERTARIAN.

[Still waiting on the answers to my questions from two days ago that prompted you to have to 'run and go get dinner.']

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

are you seriously pulling the race card on me? and you consider yourself conservative?

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Nope, she is just using your own words.

are you seriously pulling the race card on me? and you consider yourself conservative?

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Don’t know about you, but that sounds ridiculously partisan.

nobar on May 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM

You are a racist and I have NEVER claimed to be or called myself a conservative, idjit. I’M A LIBERTARIAN.

[Still waiting on the answers to my questions from two days ago that prompted you to have to 'run and go get dinner.']

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

how the hell am I a racist?

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM

A simple question:

How many innocent humans died the same day as the Boston Bombing at the hands of our domestic legal terrorists called doctors who specialize in the taking of precious helpless individual lives?

Don L on May 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM

As I pointed out to a “pro-choice”, “anti-gun”, person after the shootings at the school in Connecticut, it would take about 185 school shootings of that magnitude EVERY DAY to equal the number of children murdered by abortion on a daily basis. The response, predictably, was the shootings had nothing to do with a woman’s right to choose.

People will not be able to lie to themselves about abortion much longer without facing unimaginable consequences.

oldleprechaun on May 3, 2013 at 11:34 AM

It appears that Fox is planning a Gosnell special by Brett Baer tonight, 9ET.
I don’t see it listed, but read that on a crawl.
Perhaps it’s on FBusiness ?

pambi on May 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, you must understand his intention is noble.

nonpartisan on April 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

*what I meant to quote.

nobar on May 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM

wouldn’t the world have been much better had the tsarnaev brothers just been aborted at birth

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

No. Period.

And if you require an explanation, go back up the thread and re-read (if you ever read it in the first place) Bishop’s reply at 11:24.

“net positive” – Unbelievable. Will be shaking my head all day.

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 11:37 AM

“aborted at birth” – just caught that one. Did you really graduated from Harvard Law?

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 11:37 AM

[Still waiting on the answers to my questions from two days ago that prompted you to have to 'run and go get dinner.']

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Heh! I thought of that little exchange you had with our resident Harvard Law grad when I was in the grocery store last night. In line ahead of me was a guy in his mid-thirties dressed like he was still in high school. By which I mean he was wearing his senior class t-shirt from the 1990s. I couldn’t help but be reminded of stunted emotional growth, a mother’s basement, and nonpartisan.

Happy Nomad on May 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

how the hell am I a racist?

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Facepalm.

I guess that you don’t think there’s anything racist about this either:

‘Birth Control: To create a race of thoroughbreds. Unity!’

- Margaret Sanger, Editor, The Birth Control Review, November, 1921

To create a race of thoroughbreds!

When It Comes To Abortion, Progressives Can Be Counted On To Fully Reveal Their Racism And Ignorance:

‘No better illustration of the prevalence of abortion in the black community can be found than in New York City. According to 2011 statistics, 41% of all pregnancies were terminated in 2011, which was higher than the abortion rate in China – 29.3% – where forced abortions are commonplace. New York City’s abortion rate is double the national average. In The Bronx, 48% of pregnancies are aborted. Among African-Americans, the rate is 57%. Mayor Bloomberg, along with Governor Cuomo, are doing everything that they can to ensure that NYC’s abortion rate goes even higher.’

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

[Still waiting on the answers to my questions from two days ago that prompted you to have to 'run and go get dinner.']

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Would you mind posting the link to that thread? Am so sorry I missed it. Heh.

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

*graduate

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM

how the hell am I a racist?

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Because you think it’s a “net social benefit” to kill a few dozen truckloads of black babies.

Good Solid B-Plus on May 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM

[Still waiting on the answers to my questions from two days ago that prompted you to have to 'run and go get dinner.']

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Had 2 days to research your question and respond. Too lazy to even try and lie on that one.

VegasRick on May 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Don’t know about you, but that sounds ridiculously partisan.

nobar on May 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM

This is one of those ‘nonpartisan’ nonpartisan quotes:

bagger revolution!!!!!

nonpartisan on April 28, 2013 at 10:37 AM

… versus Bag-less devolution!

I don’t know about you, but I know on whose side I’m putting my money and it won’t be the side with ‘nonpartisan’ fanboy, whose Obama poster-covered bedroom walls resemble Plato’s Retreat circa 1977 under a black light.

lol

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:42 AM

It appears that Fox is planning a Gosnell special by Brett Baer tonight, 9ET.
I don’t see it listed, but read that on a crawl.

pambi on May 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM

They’ve been plugging it all week. I forget what they call it but it is something like Government’s Betrayal.

Happy Nomad on May 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM

April 13, 2013
Working Up to Auschwitz
***********************

A demon has been revealed in twenty-first-century Philadelphia, and the three broadcast networks have been enforcing a policy of silence about the discovery. So have most major newspapers.

One reason may be that the trial of late-term abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell for multiple counts of murder is about an African-American killing mainly African-American babies — and so the common sense among liberals, or, as a friend of mine would say, the “coven-sense,” is that such a story disparages that community. This is something newspapers are loath to do. In much the same manner that they cannot dwell upon the causes of hand gun violence in inner city black communities. Or perhaps they view these killings as prophylactic: one cure for out-of-wedlock births.

But perhaps an even more telling reason for ignoring the Gosnell story is that among the terrible details is revealed the fact that many, many babies being aborted late-term survive the process — not just a tiny few, as pro-abortionists keep insisting. And so these innocent little souls have to be murdered.(More…)
=========================================================

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/04/working_up_to_auschwitz.html

canopfor on April 14, 2013 at 12:27 AM

canopfor on May 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM

bagger revolution!!!!!

nonpartisan on April 28, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Were you born before, or after 1973?

portlandon on May 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM

“aborted at birth” – just caught that one. Did you really graduated from Harvard Law?

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 11:37 AM

partisan would like all fetuses flushed down the toilet after the mother gives birth to the baby. I think np meant to say that she drove by Harvey’s Hamburger stand once.

VegasRick on May 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Had 2 days to research your question and respond. Too lazy to even try and lie on that one.

VegasRick on May 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM

To be fair, it would take more than 2 days since it also requires an understanding of legal theory and its evolution, which nobrain obviously lacks.

In his desperate attempt to prove that Obama is the ‘smahtest’ man that has ever lived, nobrain had to become a Harvard Law grad so as to appear that he was arguing anything other than memes. He just couldn’t resist answering ‘yes’ when Axe asked…and then he also became a graduate of Harvard University, too, when Cindy asked him to clarify. lol. Too much. He was willing to destroy what little credibility he had in an effort to puff up Obama. lol

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:47 AM

those babies would’ve been born into households that don’t want them

the parents would’ve likely applied for welfare, etc and sucked up taxpayer money

think about it, the tsarnaevs used $100k of taxpayer money…wouldn’t the world have been much better had the tsarnaev brothers just been aborted at birth

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

sick…sick…SICK…

And perhaps we wouldn’t have had a Dr. Ben Carson, eh, if his mother had chosen to abort him, since she was a single mother?

How do YOU know that all the babies aborted in Gosnell’s house o’ horrors would have had your bleak future? Perhaps some might’ve been adopted by loving parents. Some might’ve turned out like Carson, who, against all odds, became the man that he is today? Adversity sometimes creates heroes.

And even so, who are you to decide who should live or die? Whose lives are worth a snot, and whose aren’t? Would you like it if those of us here were the ones deciding your fate, especially if you were innocent of anything except having a heartbeat?

theotherone on May 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Never mind – googled some phrases and here’s the link in case anyone else missed it (starts at RWM’s question):

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/01/jay-carney-hey-benghazi-happened-a-long-time-ago/comment-page-4/#comment-6940209

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM

He was willing to destroy what little credibility he had in an effort to puff up Obama. lol

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Hey, he’s just committed suicidal Jihad for OFA. Happens all the time, nothing to see here.

Happy Nomad on May 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Ed: Some of these posts by nonpartisan appear to be moby postings designed to give HA a bad name. Please review.

slickwillie2001 on May 3, 2013 at 11:51 AM

He just couldn’t resist answering ‘yes’ when Axe asked…and then he also became a graduate of Harvard University, too, when Cindy asked him to clarify. lol. Too much. He was willing to destroy what little credibility he had in an effort to puff up Obama. lol

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Yep, I was there and could feel np not want to answer but as you said he/she HAD to. I believe the np,s response was simply “Yes.” I think I would have gone into a little more depth but that might just be me. np is a liar and a ghoul. The running off for dinner thing still makes me laugh.

VegasRick on May 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs, killing a lot of babies that would have grown up to be just another adult minority to blight my White Trash view.

leftist coward on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Fixed, for reality

MNHawk on May 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Would you mind posting the link to that thread? Am so sorry I missed it. Heh.

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

I can do better than that…

. You went to Harvard Law?

Axe on May 1, 2013 at 7:33 PM

yes

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Snort.

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Let’s rephrase that. You were a student at Harvard? Did you graduate from Harvard?

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM

yes to both.

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM

So…

you prob went to a lesser school…perhaps cornell, since you called it an ivy. had it been harvard or yale, you would’ve said as much.

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Nope. Try, again. In the meantime, Oliver Wendell Holmes, let’s get ready to rummmmmmbbbbllllllllllee and play my favourite game: LAW!

Explain the evolution in the line of legal reasoning that started with Vidal v Girard’s Executors, where the Court recognised that the Christian religion was part of common law then, fold in the very first mention of the phrase ‘separation of church and state’ in Reynolds v United States, and Church of the Holy Trinity v United States, which not only ignored the dicta in Reynolds about Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists, but recounted in great detail how all 44 state constitutions referenced God and Christianity. Then, take Holy Trinity and meld it into Everson v Board of Education, which saw the adoption of the ‘Doctrine of Separation Between Church and State’ and explain how the Court moved from Vidal to Everson.

Oh, and, if you really are a law school graduate, you will also be able to tell us the back story on Everson.

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Im sorry but I have to go get dinner

I don’t need to waste my time proving my credentials to you. If you dont believe me, fine. I have no reason to lie, but think what you wish.

g’night folks!

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM

When crr6 ran the lawyer scam, she was at least smart enough to not be specific about her school. This dumbass is even dumber than crr6 was.

slickwillie2001 on May 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Heh. As you see, managed to google it out of the interwebs also. Very entertaining and thanks.

BTW – quickest troll exit I’ve ever seen – nice job

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Thanks.

When crr6 ran the lawyer scam, she was at least smart enough to not be specific about her school. This dumbass is even dumber than crr6 was.

slickwillie2001 on May 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Dumb…and desperate to puff up Obama.

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

HotAir – please ban this person.

williampeck1958 on May 3, 2013 at 12:12 PM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Yeah, I’m sure you’re right. After all, soul’s are sold cheaply these days, and hey- they’re not being used anyway.

questionmark on May 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Law Review was a meritocratic process at the law school I went to, Harvard. You had to write on to get on.

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:31 PM

. . . You went to Harvard Law?

Axe on May 1, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Total B.S. HLR operates virtually the same way as every single other law review in the United States. A certain number of spots is set aside for students “invited” onto the LR (the top grade earners, usually) while the rest get to compete by “writing onto” the review and having their submissions considered in conjunction with grades and sometimes, recommendations from their professors.

Went to Harvard, my ass.

totherightofthem on May 3, 2013 at 12:15 PM

totherightofthem on May 3, 2013 at 12:15 PM

And, ‘getting on’ HLR (or any LR) wasn’t even the issue. Nobrain brought up that Obama was the ‘first African-American elected to be President of HLR.’ When I said that he didn’t understand how much of a role that politics plays in that, then he came back with the ‘meritocratic process’ crap.

There is no ‘meritocratic process’ in an ELECTION. It’s whomever gets the most votes.

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I broke into tears when reading the first graph of Fr. Marcel’s article. For those of us who love babies, but who have not been blessed with any for one reason or another, it’s very painful to see this kind of thing happen. I can’t begin to imagine the pain and wrath that God must feel. Lord have mercy.

chelie on May 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

I am very sorry, chelie. Infertility or other situations where you are not able to have children is heart breaking. Not many understand the constant sorrow unless they have experienced it.

cptacek on May 3, 2013 at 12:24 PM

There is no ‘meritocratic process’ in an ELECTION. It’s whomever gets the most votes.

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I broke into tears when reading the first

Didn’t read back far enough. :-) That’s absolutely true and is true for, again, virtually every LR in the United States.

Nice take down. Probably a tour de force in your panoply of take-downs, I think.

I’ll say it again: Harvard graduate, my ass.

totherightofthem on May 3, 2013 at 12:26 PM

So the liberals maintain that they have the moral high ground because they believe in providing universal healthcare, education, housing, cellphones, etc. to everyone and anyone from here, there, and everywhere.

HOWEVER, the solution to the problem of growing numbers of drains on the system encouraged by providing a free ride to the lazy and shiftless is….

Kill ‘em, kill ‘em all. I don’t want to pay for it.

Lily on May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

HOWEVER, the solution to the problem of growing numbers of drains on the system encouraged by providing a free ride to the lazy and shiftless is….

Kill ‘em, kill ‘em all. I don’t want to pay for it.

Lily on May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

In a nutshell.

totherightofthem on May 3, 2013 at 12:31 PM

cptacek on May 3, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Thank you for your kind words. I don’t KNOW that I am infertile, it’s just that I’ve never been married and have reached an age where pregnancy is risky. I have stuck to my faith in regard to no children before marriage, and so now the time has passed so that even if I were to find a husband at my age, children are unlikely. If I were married, and not diabetic, I would adopt in an instant.

chelie on May 3, 2013 at 12:35 PM

So the liberals maintain that they have the moral high ground because they believe in providing universal healthcare, education, housing, cellphones, etc. to everyone and anyone from here, there, and everywhere.

HOWEVER, the solution to the problem of growing numbers of drains on the system encouraged by providing a free ride to the lazy and shiftless is….

Kill ‘em, kill ‘em all. I don’t want to pay for it.

Lily on May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM

+1000

Their self congratulatory smugness is just sickening (WARNING: images upsetting and definitely NSFW).

inviolet on May 3, 2013 at 12:37 PM

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

You may be too narrowly defining “societal cost.”

Societies that assume that a person’s right to live is dependent on that person’s economic value tend to put a lot of people to death. To see that, you need only look at recent European and Asian history, and some of our own.

The primary “societal cost” of understanding human life in utilitarian terms is a basic, general right to life that secures both that right and other following rights for a person. A person with no fundamental right to live in the first place can’t be understood to have a right to a jury trial, let alone an attorney provided, for example.

Consider:

Complaint:
“I have a right to speak my mind.”

State:
“You are lucky we let you live at all.”

There cannot be any freedom in a society that understands human life in purely economic terms, and the historical record affirms that. Human beings treated as purely economic components are slaves.

But, about the societal cost of all the dead black babies, an entire generation of people that were never born. Its possible each of them would have been an economic drain, as you’ve suggested. I think that’s unlikely. It’s also possible that that each of them would have had children of their own, and that the changing demographics (the community’s relationship to the nation on the whole) and/or their changing internal social structure (those blacks’ relationships to each other, as a community) would have had a positive economic impact at some point. My speculation of a follow-on positive impact is every bit as sound as your speculation of immediate negative impact.

Axe on May 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM

you prob went to a lesser school…perhaps cornell, since you called it an ivy. had it been harvard or yale, you would’ve said as much.

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM

I still laugh out loud when I see that part, by the way. :) I would have paid real money to see your expression when you saw that little puff of snoot.

Axe on May 3, 2013 at 12:54 PM

I belong to no party sir

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

One of two reasons for this if you are telling the truth (probability of that <20%):
1) You are too young to vote, thus cannot be registered to a party. That would be consistent with your postings as they have that naiveté and cruelty of youth — someone young enough to be educated on topics but not yet mature enough to have wisdom or compassion.

2) The communist party is not taking new members where you are an you believe the democrat party too far right to be worthy of your membership.

AZfederalist on May 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

This nonpartisan dude has got to be joking. No one can be this dense.

gina4 on May 3, 2013 at 12:55 PM

The pro-abortion crowd is disgusting and barberic. End of discussion. Back to work I go.

gina4 on May 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM

I still laugh out loud when I see that part, by the way. :) I would have paid real money to see your expression when you saw that little puff of snoot.

Axe on May 3, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Lol! Not as much money as you would have paid to hear my howls of laughter when the little bugger ran off ‘to go get dinner.’

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Resist We Much on May 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM

I belong to no party sir

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Goebbels can’t take the orgasms today. The jobs numbers lies, plus this, plus Obama selling the US to Mexico, is just too much.

Goebbels is going to marry his coffin soon.

Schadenfreude on May 3, 2013 at 1:19 PM

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