Two new polls: Disapproval of Obama’s handling of gun policy over 50 percent

posted at 4:01 pm on May 2, 2013 by Allahpundit

After last night’s QOTD about a backlash brewing against GOP senators who voted no on background checks, I owe you some data pointing the other way. First, Quinnipiac:

quin

Then the NYT/CBS:

gunpolicy

Identical question, identical results. Jacob Sullum wonders if the downturn in O’s numbers is due in part to his “eagerness to claim the moral high ground by clambering onto the bloody corpses of children”. Could be; it’s certainly contributing to his disapproval among gun-rights supporters. My hunch with numbers like these, though, is that Obama’s underwater mainly due to discontent among his own supporters that he didn’t do enough to get some new gun-control measure passed. There are lots of Dems and some indies who are grumpy that he didn’t use the magic of Hopenchange charisma to convince Mark Pryor to take a potentially suicidal vote on background checks. So they disapprove, and of course most Republicans disapprove because they oppose new gun-control regs on principle. That’s how you get to 52 percent. More data from the NYT/CBS poll supports the theory that most of the public agreed with him on Toomey/Manchin:

strictangry

So there you have it. Gun-control fans are mad that the newly reelected president didn’t have enough juice to get expanded background checks through Congress, despite having spent four months all but accusing the NRA and its GOP allies of endorsing child murder. The disapproval numbers are a commentary on O’s weakness, not on the issue itself.

Or are they?

trust

I’m not sure how to square that number with the numbers above. People think gun laws should be more strict, they’re disappointed/angry about the Senate votes … and yet, when push comes to shove, they trust the Republicans who voted down those stricter laws more than they do The One himself. Hmmm. Here’s a theory: Although most of the public disagrees with the GOP position on Toomey/Manchin specifically, they’re so suspicious of the Democrats’ plans for more aggressive gun control (starting with an assault-weapons ban) that they prefer Republicans’ judgment on this issue generally — even at a moment when they’re on the other side of a particular gun-control proposal. That’s good news and bad news for gun-rights supporters. Good news, of course, because it suggests that even if something on background checks ends up passing, the grand liberal plan for greater gun confiscation faces huge obstacles politically. But bad news because maybe it’ll provide some cover for Toomey/Manchin fencesitters like Kelly Ayotte and Jeff Flake to switch if/when the bill comes back. They can vote for background checks to get right with majority opinion on this single issue, then dig in against any other gun-control bill and count on public support. Lefty Michael Tomasky hears whispers that up to eight senators, some Democratic and some Republican, might be prepared to flip-flop on the T/M bill if it’s brought up again. We shall see.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

HA trolls hardest hit

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Tomasky 2nd hardest hit

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Most people couldn’t point out a gun in a line up but go along with the communists and gun grabbers. This is the last stand…

trs on May 2, 2013 at 4:05 PM

clambering onto the bloody corpses of children

it’s what community agitators do.

RedInMD on May 2, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, you must understand his intention is noble.

nonpartisan on April 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

nobar on May 2, 2013 at 4:05 PM

From last night’s QotD

I was at Ayotte’s Town Meeting last night. What the Democrat Media are afraid to tell you is that her attackers were handily outnumbered and outshouted by her supporters.

This is yet another carefully orchestrated Democrat Machine attempt to take out someone they truly fear, namely a Republican Female US Senator whose husband dared to volunteer in the Evil War, and someone who dared to be an effective Attorney General in New Hampshire.

But they all seem to forget that she successfully prosecuted the killers of two of their own Dartmouth College Professors.

Del Dolemonte on May 1, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Eating carrion, as does Obama and his cronies, is not so good, after all.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, you must understand his intention is noble.

nonpartisan on April 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

nobar on May 2, 2013 at 4:05 PM

“big shots try to hold it back, fools try to wish it away”
Rush, Manhattan Project

dentarthurdent on May 2, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Out with Landrieu, Prior and the likes, out, out, out.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Lefty Michael Tomasky hears whispers that up to eight senators, some Democratic and some Republican, might be prepared to flip-flop on the T/M bill if it’s brought up again. We shall see.

They’re just talking big now when nothing is on the table. The closer it gets to 2014, the smaller they’ll talk and the less likely anything will be on the table.

Curtiss on May 2, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, you must understand his intention is noble.

nonpartisan on April 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Harvard wants its money back, from Obama and partisan.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Lefty Michael Tomasky hears whispers that up to eight senators, some Democratic and some Republican, might be prepared to flip-flop on the T/M bill if it’s brought up again. We shall see.

Probably just the voices in his head.

changer1701 on May 2, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, you must understand his intention is noble.

nonpartisan on April 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

What color is the guard house at Harvard?

portlandon on May 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

The first polls are guilt responses… The same you’d get if you asked any adult person if they think they should eat a healthy diet…

The second poll shows their true colors-
Yes, we all think we should eat a healthy diet… But we shouldn’t be forced into it… Because when push comes to shove, well eat the donuts!

The dichotomy of the American citizen and secret hope that there’s still life in this Republic yet…

Skywise on May 2, 2013 at 4:13 PM

This is nothing more than noise from low info voters who think we either don’t already have a background check system in place or think the senate voted to repeal the current system. Gun sales, ammo shortages, record breaking background checks to me is an indication that the left is losing on is issue, big time.

jawkneemusic on May 2, 2013 at 4:13 PM

nonpartisan w/b so much better as nobrain.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Keeping in mind that 42% of Americans don’t even know that Obamacare is active law, I wouldn’t try too hard to decipher these polls.

RedRedRice on May 2, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Allahpundit, what about the new poll that shows only the rich give Obama over 50% approval?

itsnotaboutme on May 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Boston focused minds. Nothing focuses minds quicker than knowing death is very near.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Harvard wants its money back, from Obama and partisan.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Do you think nobrain is still ‘eating dinner’?

lol

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Seriously, does anyone really believe these fence sitters would have voted against Manchin/Toomey of they believed their constituents really supported gun grabbing? Not even Chuck Todd is convinced any of these senators are in trouble. If they were they would have voted to the bill.

jawkneemusic on May 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Allahpundit, speaking of polls, what about the new poll that shows only the rich give Obama over 50% approval?

It’s more proof that the Democrats are the party of the rich.

The poor & the middle class give the President low ratings, while the wealthy give him higher ratings:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/shock-poll-wealthy-not-middle-class-support-obama/article/2528621

itsnotaboutme on May 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM

What color is the guard house at Harvard?

portlandon on May 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Why is it that every Effing D-Bag in Government today is
an Ivy League grad??

Oh that’s right, Ronald Reagan graduated from EUREKA COLLEGE.

Can’t have anymore of that can we….

ToddPA on May 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM

That 7% who trust neither the congressional GOP nor Obama are significant, and together they show 46% who do not trust Zero on that issue v. 47% who do. Not great, but better than an 8 point deficit.

alwaysfiredup on May 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM

What every Liberal is avoiding is this simple fact: There’s not one American over the age of 15 who hasn’t, at one time or another, wish they had a gun.

All Americans believe that they have a right to defend themselves. Until that perception changes (and Lord willing it never will) any attempt to take their guns away will fail.

E9RET on May 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM

And like always you can disregard what the black respondents said. Let’s face it, if there was a poll asking if you agree with Obama that all puppies should be executed, a majority of blacks would agree simply because Obama is black.

The Notorious G.O.P on May 2, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Here’s a thought. Conservatives want MEANINGFUL legislation. Like that proposed by Senator Grassley.

The legislation that would actually FIX problems in the FBI NICS system.

You know, the legislation Harry Reid IGNORED.

GarandFan on May 2, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, you must understand his intention is noble.

nonpartisan on April 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Road to hell and all that.

alwaysfiredup on May 2, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Why is it that every Effing D-Bag in Government today is
an Ivy League grad??

Oh that’s right, Ronald Reagan graduated from EUREKA COLLEGE.

Can’t have anymore of that can we….

ToddPA on May 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Nobrain isn’t in government…

. . . You went to Harvard Law?

Axe on May 1, 2013 at 7:33 PM

yes

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Let’s rephrase that. You were a student at Harvard? Did you graduate from Harvard?

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM

yes to both.

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Snort.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Lefty Michael Tomasky hears whispers that up to eight senators, some Democratic and some Republican, might be prepared to flip-flop on the T/M bill if it’s brought up again. We shall see.

Lots of opportunities for “undocumented guns”.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:21 PM

What color is the guard house at Harvard?

portlandon on May 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Ronin! Thread winner :)

ShadowsPawn on May 2, 2013 at 4:22 PM

nobrain is funded by gov’t.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Why is it that every Effing D-Bag in Government today is
an Ivy League grad??

Oh that’s right, Ronald Reagan graduated from EUREKA COLLEGE.

Can’t have anymore of that can we….

ToddPA on May 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Nobrain isn’t in government…

Yeah, I know, but I couldn’t resist going off about the
whole Ivy League crowd….

ToddPA on May 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Likelihood he is admitted to practice in any state = negligible.

alwaysfiredup on May 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Here’s a theory: Although most of the public disagrees with the GOP position on Toomey/Manchin specifically, they’re so suspicious of the Democrats’ plans for more aggressive gun control (starting with an assault-weapons ban) that they prefer Republicans’ judgment on this issue generally — even at a moment when they’re on the other side of a particular gun-control proposal.

.
There is another aspect to this discussion perhaps far more relevant than any of the theories you have proposed, AP. Pull back from looking at individual issues and consider their relative importance to people’s lives.

Gun control & immigration are only priorities for Inside-the-Beltway – outside the beltway, from the latest polls, people still have the same #1 priority – economy/jobs – they have had for the last 4+ years.

After two months (March & April) of bad macroeconomic numbers, the most likely meaning of these MSM polls is they don’t mean anything.

PolAgnostic on May 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM

DC has given up on Economy, go figure.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Snort.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Ya – I don’t buy it either. I’ve personally known a few pathological liars who claimed to have graduated from certain schools, or were Green Berets or SEALs, and many other things.
Partisan has not demonstrated enough brain power here to be a Harvard grad – unless he ALSO got an affirmative action pass.

dentarthurdent on May 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Likelihood he is admitted to practice in any state = negligible.

alwaysfiredup on May 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Likelihood he ever set foot on the Harvard campus:

Zip
.
.
Zilch
.
.
Nada

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Ya – I don’t buy it either. I’ve personally known a few pathological liars who claimed to have graduated from certain schools, or were Green Berets or SEALs, and many other things.
Partisan has not demonstrated enough brain power here to be a Harvard grad – unless he ALSO got an affirmative action pass.

dentarthurdent on May 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Well, I gave him a test and you saw what happened.

Explain the evolution in the line of legal reasoning that started with Vidal v Girard’s Executors, where the Court recognised that the Christian religion was part of common law then, fold in the very first mention of the phrase ‘separation of church and state’ in Reynolds v United States, and Church of the Holy Trinity v United States, which not only ignored the dicta in Reynolds about Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists, but recounted in great detail how all 44 state constitutions referenced God and Christianity. Then, take Holy Trinity and meld it into Everson v Board of Education, which saw the adoption of the ‘Doctrine of Separation Between Church and State’ and explain how the Court moved from Vidal to Everson.

Oh, and, if you really are a law school graduate, you will also be able to tell us the back story on Everson.

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Im sorry but I have to go get dinner

I don’t need to waste my time proving my credentials to you. If you dont believe me, fine. I have no reason to lie, but think what you wish.

g’night folks!

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM

lol

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Wait, wait, I thought Senator Ayotte was in trouble.

mwbri on May 2, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM

We had a pathological liar in my office back in the late 80s who, when he heard that another guy was working on a Comp Sci Masters at Denver University, had to play one-up and claimed HE was working on a DOUBLE Masters in Comp Sci AND Electrical Engineering at DU (while also supposedly working 60 to 70 hours a week to get big overtime money).
The guy who was actually going to DU checked with the registar’s office – not only was the liar not ever registered at DU, but DU didn’t even HAVE a EE masters program.

dentarthurdent on May 2, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

I could go into background on everson but have never heard the litany you provided prior to that. then again, I focused on takings and speech, not freedom of religion.

alwaysfiredup on May 2, 2013 at 4:32 PM

That Tomasky piece is wishful fiction at best. Look at the decimation of the “Ayotte protestors” false narrative that is now available online (the protesters were from out of state and not actual constituents – astroturf if you will).

If the gun control bill comes up again, it will be shot down again. Because just enough have woken up in this country to see the transitives in Obama’s agenda. Start them out on Obamacare, let it fail (as we all know it will, even Dems are saying this today),so we’re forced into single-payer. Which was Obama’s goal from go. Find the video – he himself said it would take “10-15 years to get us to single-payer” even though it appears Obamacare will begin failing as soon as it starts next year.

As it applies to gun control, “it’s just expanded background check”, yup, which creates a national registry (by state) which leads to confiscation. Not true, you say? How about these then? “If you like your plan and doctor, you can keep them” (not true). “It will save the average family $2500 a year in premium cost.” (not true). “The attacks were caused by a YouTube video” (not true). “This stimulus will create millions of jobs and have UE in the 5′s by 2012″ (not true). “I will not raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000…$200,000…$150,000…$100,000 (moving target, now down to $90,000 at last check – but is not true, Obamacare increases taxes on EVERYONE and thanks to SCOTUS, is now in and of itself a TAX!).

The whole problem with the gun control bill, in most Dems and certainly Obama’s eyes, is that it was supposed to fail, but did so in the wrong Chamber. It was supposed to sail through the Senate and then die in the House. Because if there is one thing (other than rampant narcissism) that is true of Obama, he cannot win an argument unless his opponent is a Straw Man – and the “Republican House” was supposed to be his whipping-boy Straw Man in the gun control fight, only the Senate did not play along.

GuitarSlinger on May 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM

lol

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Yup – same thing happened in the case I just posted above.
Once the pathological liar’s lies started getting uncovered, and people no longer believed him, he suddenly quit and left the company “for a better offer for big bucks elsewhere”.

Funny thing was, he came back 3 months later trying to get his job back. My boss almost hired him back, until DU Comp Sci guy and I put 3 of the liar’s different resumes that we had found cleaning out his computer (different degrees, different schools, different years, different jobs) in front of him and asked “which one of these guys are you going to hire back?”

dentarthurdent on May 2, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Let’s rephrase that. You were a student at Harvard? Did you graduate from Harvard?

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM

yes to both.

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Snort.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM

PFFFFT. I could say I’m the spitting image of Angelina Jolie and if I’m hiding behind the moniker of “low info voter”, who’s going to dispute it.

Either Harvard has no standards and churns out morons or this one is full of it. They both work for me.

kim roy on May 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Nonpartisan is really Barry Obama?

coldwarrior on May 2, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Either Harvard has no standards and churns out morons or this one is full of it. They both work for me.

kim roy on May 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

We have proof of that occupying the WH.

dentarthurdent on May 2, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM

He ate his dog’s homework.

SparkPlug on May 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM

alwaysfiredup on May 2, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Vidal (‘It is also said, and truly, that the Christian religion is a part of the common law of Pennsylvania’) and Church of the Holy Trinity v United States, which not only ignored the dicta in Reynolds about Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists, but recounted in great detail how all 44 state constitutions at the time referenced God and Christianity are enough to make many on the Left’s hair curl…even if they are bald.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM

My left/liberal friends are going on and on today about the horrible accidental shooting of a 2 year old by a 5 year old in KY.

They are absolutely vitriolic about the NRA and the “gun nuts” being OK with this tragedy.

They are beyond reason and into the realm of the bizarre. Asked how this was the NRA’s fault they just lay into me, howling and screeching.

There is no reasoning or even basic logic at play, just anger and blood lust.

It’s really depressing. They have no clue and,apparently, are happy with it that way.

Man, does it suck.

Bruno Strozek on May 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Snort.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM

This is entirely possible … but you have to put it in context:

In November of my senior year of high school …

(which was soooo long ago both Harvard and the New York Times were far more respected than they are today)

… a friend of mine home from Wellesley College for Thanksgiving asked me if I had applied to Harvard.

I had spent most of non-school time my junior and senior years working a part time job 20+ hours/week and being one of the senior editors of the “Literature & Arts” magazine published by the high school (lots of tax money was available in the small towns populated owned by IBM) so my GPA had slipped to 89% and I replied, “I don’t think my grades are good enough to get in.”

After nearly falling over laughing, she responded,

“You idiot! Harvard gives tiddlywinks champions scholarships. Someone like you with your position on the magazine and working all those hours on a part time job … they would fall all over themselves for a ‘bluecollar poet’!”

No, I never applied – but it stuck with me that Harvard’s reputation was infinitely better than its reality.

Maybe your troll was the tiddlywinks champion of his year?

PolAgnostic on May 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM

I heard Toomey on a local radio show this morning and he did not sound too enthused about bringing the bill back up. I think he has heard enough from the gun owners in PA. He really hammered Obama for being divisive on everything and hinted that he was his own worst enemy on the gun bill.

rockmom on May 2, 2013 at 4:46 PM

HA trolls hardest hit

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:03 PM

I would say they are tied with Joe “The GOP are gonna rue the day they didn’t listen to 90% of the American People” Scarborough.

can_con on May 2, 2013 at 4:46 PM

HA trolls hardest hit

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:03 PM

They’ll just suggest that the dissatisfaction comes from 0bama not doing enough fast enough to strip us of our rights.

CurtZHP on May 2, 2013 at 4:46 PM

I heard Toomey on a local radio show this morning and he did not sound too enthused about bringing the bill back up. I think he has heard enough from the gun owners in PA. He really hammered Obama for being divisive on everything and hinted that he was his own worst enemy on the gun bill.

rockmom on May 2, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Serves him right. I told him he got his one and only vote out of me.

CurtZHP on May 2, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Maybe your troll was the tiddlywinks champion of his year?

PolAgnostic on May 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Based on the troll’s posts…the troll doesn’t know twiddly.

coldwarrior on May 2, 2013 at 4:48 PM

DC has given up on Economy, go figure.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM


FYI, the article is a litany of lies blaming Republicans for the SCOAMF not being able to get anything done.

PolAgnostic on May 2, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Once the pathological liar’s lies started…

dentarthurdent on May 2, 2013 at 4:37 PM

That was the thing. He was so desperate to try to prove that Obama was the smartest man to ever live (NP: ‘He was the first African-American ever elected as President of the Harvard Law Review!’ Me: You really don’t understand how LR works and how political it is. NP: Well, at the law school that I attended, LR was a meritorious process. Me: We were talking about how Obama got ELECTED as President of the LR), that he couldn’t help himself. In order to prove that Obama was the ‘smahtest’ man evah and that his being elected meritoriously selected (?), anointed (?), christened (?), coronated (?) as P of HLR, NP had to have gone to Harvard. So, when Axe asked, NP just couldn’t stop. He became not only a graduate of Harvard Law, but an undergraduate of Harvard, too…

…and then, he had to run and ‘go get dinner’ and see if anyone had checked out his 14 ‘pieces of equipment’ on Ultimate-Guitar.com.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Devil’s in the details…
Do you support keeping guns out of the hands of those convicted of multiple violent felonies? You betcha. Very few will say no.

Do you support the idea that keeping guns out of the hands of those convicted of multiple violent felonies will be accomplished by making it difficult for a private citizen who has already been through multiple background checks to obtain a concealed carry license to sell a firearm to another private citizen who has already been through multiple background checks to obtain a concealed carry license? Of course not. That doesn’t make sense. Few will say yes and most of those will have an underlying issue of disagreeing with citizen carry in the first place which position will color their answer.

In between answers will vary. But really, I think the difference in these polls is accounted for in great part by the interpretation of the respondent which is varying on their view of the moment of events.

deepdiver on May 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Maybe your troll was the tiddlywinks champion of his year?

PolAgnostic on May 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Updated: Guitar Hero III Champion of the Year???

HAHAHAHA

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Gracias. That looks useful.

alwaysfiredup on May 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Nonpartisan is really Barry Obama?

coldwarrior on May 2, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Possibly. He talks about and worships Barack Obama enough to be.

He ate his dog’s homework.

SparkPlug on May 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Bwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Either Harvard has no standards and churns out morons or this one is full of it. They both work for me.

kim roy on May 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Yep.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM

…and then, he had to run and ‘go get dinner’ and see if anyone had checked out his 14 ‘pieces of equipment’ on Ultimate-Guitar.com.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:50 PM

I won’t be surprised when another military thread comes up and he claims to have been a SEAL or Green Beret – maybe even the guy who actually shot bin laden….

dentarthurdent on May 2, 2013 at 4:57 PM

BHO: Lame Duck AKA

plomb dans l’aile (Lead in The Wing)

canard boiteux

fin de mandat

البطة العرجاء صاحب منصب

跛脚鸭

vilema bata

can_con on May 2, 2013 at 4:59 PM

can_con on May 2, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Kris Kringle
Pere Noel
Popo Gigio….

dentarthurdent on May 2, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Amazing what one can do to an otherwise boring with record keeping.

I’ll be here all week.

nobar on May 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM

nobar on May 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Don’t forget to try the veal! /Rimshot!

can_con on May 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM

eagerness to claim the moral high ground by clambering onto the bloody corpses of children”.

..this

I equate this almost as evil as the jackass that committed the murders himself. Using children as political props, dead ones at that, is unconscionable, UN-acceptible, un-american, Unnecessary and of the lowest class of politics ever by a sitting president.

TX-96 on May 2, 2013 at 5:23 PM

So I guess civil rights are based on which way the wind blows?

We’ve got an all out anti-gun campaign by a billionaire and the media – their money and influence should have no bearing on the Bill of Rights.

Polls can easily be manipulated, but that said it’s sad that these numbers are even anywhere near where they are.

It is obvious how uninformed many people are.

dugan on May 2, 2013 at 5:28 PM

My left/liberal friends are going on and on today about the horrible accidental shooting of a 2 year old by a 5 year old in KY.

They are absolutely vitriolic about the NRA and the “gun nuts” being OK with this tragedy.

They are beyond reason and into the realm of the bizarre. Asked how this was the NRA’s fault they just lay into me, howling and screeching.

There is no reasoning or even basic logic at play, just anger and blood lust.

It’s really depressing. They have no clue and,apparently, are happy with it that way.

Man, does it suck.

Bruno Strozek on May 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Let me guess, are they the same folks who the day before called people from KY teabaggers and inbreds? Make claims that they are toothless and uneducated rubes. It’s amazing the compassion the libtards can conjure up if they think they can score political points off a tragedy. Kind of like the resident trolltards here whose only anger about Amb Stevens death or the victims of Gosnell…is directed at those who want answers or might make their messiah look bad. Pathetic.

HumpBot Salvation on May 2, 2013 at 5:31 PM

FYI, the article is a litany of lies blaming Republicans for the SCOAMF not being able to get anything done.

PolAgnostic on May 2, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Right – fluke them all.

Schadenfreude on May 2, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Snort.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM

I wish I were here earlier for this, but I still have to comment.

What I want to know is how does someone go graduate from Harvard Law and not know what natural law rights are, ignorance he demonstrated in another gun thread. It’s likely he is a liar, but at the same time I can’t help but think that Harvard Law really is that far gone.

NotCoach on May 2, 2013 at 7:30 PM

What color is the guard house at Harvard?

portlandon on May 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Delusions of grandeur.

CW on May 2, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Snort.

Resist We Much on May 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM

I wish I were here earlier for this, but I still have to comment.

What I want to know is how does someone go graduate from Harvard Law and not know what natural law rights are, ignorance he demonstrated in another gun thread. It’s likely he is a liar, but at the same time I can’t help but think that Harvard Law really is that far gone.

NotCoach on May 2, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Not to forget this one:

from my understanding, a skeet gun would lack killing power as its not built to kill

nonpartisan on April 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM

slickwillie2001 on May 2, 2013 at 8:48 PM