Today’s dumb immigration kabuki: Dems to demand that gay illegals be allowed to sponsor partners abroad

posted at 6:01 pm on May 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

Even knowing that most reporters are pro-reform, I can’t believe they’re taking this lame gambit semi-seriously.

Mickey Kaus is right, of course. Not remotely is this an obstacle to passing the Gang of Eight bill. If anything, it’s a little nudge towards passage from Schumer and company.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) has told advocates that he will offer an amendment during the bill markup next week allowing gay Americans to sponsor their foreign-born partners for green cards, just as heterosexual couples can. The measure is likely to pass because Democrats face pressure from gay rights advocates to deal with it in committee, rather than on the Senate floor, where the odds of passage are far less favorable…

“It will virtually guarantee that [the bill] won’t pass,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a member of the Gang of Eight negotiating group, told POLITICO in a brief interview. “This issue is a difficult enough issue as it is. I respect everyone’s views on it. But ultimately, if that issue is injected into this bill, the bill will fail and the coalition that helped put it together will fall apart.”…

Democrats, led by Leahy and the party’s progressive allies, are expected to make the high-risk push because they aren’t convinced that Republicans would ultimately abandon the measure if it includes protections for same sex couples. The GOP made similar threats about the Violence Against Women Act before Congress passed a version that covered victims of domestic violence in same sex relationships, advocates point out.

This is what’s known as ginning up a “demand” for the express purpose of conceding it later for strategic reasons. Maybe Leahy will get it through committee, just to show the party’s liberal base that Senate Democrats are all about gay rights in case that wasn’t abundantly clear yet. At that point, Republicans will have veto power. If a quick whip count reveals that Rubio’s right about this provision tanking the bill, rest assured that Leahy and Chuck Schumer will find a way procedurally to have it stripped out, replete with plenty of assurances to the left that amnesty will eventually be extended to gay couples after the bill is signed into law. Then the GOP can declare another lame “victory” with which to supposedly impress conservatives. Kaus knows kabuki when he sees it:

For example, the amendment could be offered on the Senate floor, where it would fail to get the necessary 60 votes but allow Democrats and some Republicans to go on record in seeming support. Or the gay provision makes it into the bill, but the bill itself fails to get 60 votes. Then the Dems take out the provision and have another vote. Or the amendment gets removed in conference with the House, giving Democratic senators a “yes” vote on the initial bill and Republicans a subsequent. ”concession” they can use as cover for a final pro-amnesty vote.

That last thing, I suspect, is the real purpose of the gay dispute. The Kabuki of Amnesty not only includes fake fights between Marco Rubio and the President, and fake anti-Obama ads praising the Republican senators who support Obama’s immigration approach, but also the creation of fake threats that can then be used as bargaining chips with gullible conservatives (or fake-gullible conservatives)…

Opponents of amnesty, in particular shouldn’t fall for that false hope,. The amnesty side isn’t about to fumble.. They will have to be beaten on the ground, on the core failings of the bill (“border security or guest workers or …the path to citizenship”–the concerns Carrie Budoff Brown dismisses). The gay issue only can only divert attention and energy from those core debates.

All true, but there’s more to it than that. Total Democratic victory on immigration doesn’t just mean enacting a path to citizenship with phony border security provisions. It means preserving certain grievances against the GOP that can be used against them in 2014 and beyond to keep core Democratic constituencies alienated when Republicans try to build on the “goodwill” they’ll have allegedly earned by passing this thing. Rest assured, if the bill becomes law with a 15- to 20-year citizenship path, amnesty shills will waste no time afterward slamming the GOP for such a draconian demand at the expense of poor “undocumented” Mexicans. The “gay couple” amendment works similarly. Legalized gay marriage is famously popular among younger voters, whom Democrats depend on, but also increasingly popular among Latinos, especially younger Latinos whose political identity might not have solidified yet. (According to some polls, a majority of Latino voters already support legal recognition of SSM.) Democrats don’t care if the “gay couple” provision passes, they care about voters noting that they tried to pass it and that it was the GOP that stopped it cold. Frankly, given the minor trend towards public support for SSM by some Senate Republicans like Rob Portman and Mark Kirk, it’s not a bad idea strategically for the Dems to call Rubio’s bluff on trying to pass the bill with the “gay couples” amendment as part of it. Maybe they can get to 60 with it in there and claim an even bigger victory for their base. If they can’t, great — they’ll use the GOP’s opposition as an attack point later. Either way, in no sense is this amendment an “obstacle” to passage. One side or the other will cave.


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I don’t care what kills it.. Just let it be killed.

melle1228 on May 1, 2013 at 6:01 PM

The queers will never stop demanding things. They are depraved and demented.

Flange on May 1, 2013 at 6:04 PM

one passionate kiss with jason collins Marco and you’ve got the mormon converted to catholic, bisexual, rino vote in the bag.

renalin on May 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

I’m shocked that the Democrats are just using this whole thing to gin up support for 2014.

gwelf on May 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

And Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity continue to support and even praise Rubio, the chief faceman and spokesmouth for all this crap. Three pathetic excuses for men.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Is the documentation for this videos, the same DNA strand of AIDS, arrest records from homophobe countries or what?

IlikedAUH2O on May 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Can polygamists sponsor two people?

gwelf on May 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM

“Rest assured, if the bill becomes law with a 15- to 20-year citizenship path, amnesty shills will waste no time afterward slamming the GOP for such a draconian demand at the expense of poor “undocumented” Mexicans.”

That won’t matter…

… The moment it passes, everyone gets a temporary Visa, which will allow them to get a Driver’s License, which will register them to vote.

Who cares if they ever become legal, they can vote…

… and that is the entire goal behind this.

Seven Percent Solution on May 1, 2013 at 6:09 PM

I don’t care what kills it.. Just let it be killed.

melle1228 on May 1, 2013 at 6:01 PM

But not before we can be denounced for being both racist and “homophobes”. Maybe we’ll see some sort of special immigration carve out for women too (if you get an abortion you get in for free!) so the Democrats can demagogue the trifecta.

gwelf on May 1, 2013 at 6:10 PM

I happened to just catch Hannity giving Marco “Judas” Rubio more airtime to lie and propagandize in favor of amnesty and he even praised him by saying “I know all your motives are good”.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Amnesty will never pass the House – and everyone knows it, so the left are going to hang whatever base-pleasing nonsense they can on it.

Rebar on May 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Can polygamists sponsor two people?

gwelf on May 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM

It’s coming.. The DOMA case that SCOTUS accepted will make that issue really murky..

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/25/Supreme-Court-to-Consider-Gay-Marriage-This-Week-and-Possibly-Polygamy-Part-II-U-S-v-Windsor

melle1228 on May 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

phuck illegals

nonpartisan on May 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Welcome to the Idiocracy!

Deafdog on May 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Rubio is a greater threat to the Republic than is al Qaeda, and Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity are his aiders and abetters.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Please Rubio walk away from this thing! Im so disappointed in him.

Jack_Burton on May 1, 2013 at 6:14 PM

THE AMNESTY EIGHT!!

TRAITORS that won’t defend the national borders of this great country!!

PappyD61 on May 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Seriously, can someone give me one logical reason why we need to “reform” our entire immigration system? (The government’s failure to enforce our current laws is not a logical reason.)

LASue on May 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM

But not before we can be denounced for being both racist and “homophobes”. Maybe we’ll see some sort of special immigration carve out for women too (if you get an abortion you get in for free!) so the Democrats can demagogue the trifecta.

gwelf on May 1, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Yeppers, apparently you cannot even remain silent about homosexual issue anymore. Silence will now be taken also as homophobia:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/01/Chicago-Tribune-Columnist-Demands-Bears-Player-Explain-Position-On-Jason-Collins

In a Tuesday column, Rosenbloom publicly “outed” Chicago Bears linebacker Lance Briggs for having the gall to not express an opinion on the Collins episode. Apparently, a number of Briggs’ Twitter followers peppered the football player on the issue and in response Briggs (or whoever handles his Twitter feed) responded with non-responses such as, “How about those Bulls!!”

The Bears should encourage Briggs to explain, lest they get cast as clinging to intolerant beliefs as useless as a Lamborghini cracked up on the side of the Edens. A Bears source said Briggs’ Twitter account is ghostwritten some of the time (maybe that’s who deleted those tweets), but the source told me the team, trying since Monday, has not been able to reach Briggs for an explanation.

melle1228 on May 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Please Rubio walk away from this thing! Im so disappointed in him.

Jack_Burton on May 1, 2013 at 6:14 PM

And then all would be forgiven? Good grief! Let’s just forgive Obama while we are at it.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I’ll agree to it for muslims only.

Ronnie on May 1, 2013 at 6:17 PM

THE AMNESTY THREE!!!!

RUSH, LEVIN, HANNITY!

Stop enabling Rubio. He will NEVER be President.
YOU THREE DOPES think that Jeb Bush will not kneecap Rubio?

NO AMNESTY RUBIO, LEVIN, RUSH, HANNITY!!!!

PappyD61 on May 1, 2013 at 6:19 PM

THE AMNESTY EIGHT!!

TRAITORS that won’t defend the national borders of this great country!!

PappyD61 on May 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM

But somehow Rubio is given one excuse after another, by people who claim to be against amnesty, even though he is it’s main pusher and spokes mouth, face man liar, and hence the very worst of the stinking lot of them.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Yeppers, apparently you cannot even remain silent about homosexual issue anymore. Silence will now be taken also as homophobia:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/01/Chicago-Tribune-Columnist-Demands-Bears-Player-Explain-Position-On-Jason-Collins

In a Tuesday column, Rosenbloom publicly “outed” Chicago Bears linebacker Lance Briggs for having the gall to not express an opinion on the Collins episode. Apparently, a number of Briggs’ Twitter followers peppered the football player on the issue and in response Briggs (or whoever handles his Twitter feed) responded with non-responses such as, “How about those Bulls!!”

The Bears should encourage Briggs to explain, lest they get cast as clinging to intolerant beliefs as useless as a Lamborghini cracked up on the side of the Edens. A Bears source said Briggs’ Twitter account is ghostwritten some of the time (maybe that’s who deleted those tweets), but the source told me the team, trying since Monday, has not been able to reach Briggs for an explanation.

melle1228 on May 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM

But we’ve been assured that homosexuals just want to be left alone.

gwelf on May 1, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Please Rubio walk away from this thing! Im so disappointed in him.

Jack_Burton on May 1, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Too late, the damage is done, true colors shown.

Ted Cruz is the future of the GOP.

Rebar on May 1, 2013 at 6:20 PM

I am no legal expert but isn’t the DOMA still the law of the land? So, how do they get the provision in their for SS couples? The SCOTUS hasn’t ruled yet on SSM so are they going to violate existing law by putting this in the immigration bill?

rsherwd65 on May 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

I’m seriously having gay fatigue. I don’t think I’m alone. I am just so freaking sick of hearing about somebody being gay.

Today we were at a job site and someone mentioned that gay basketball player… had to be at least 10 other guys around us… it was like a sudden outburst of profanity… all directed at the player and the media.

Yeah.. I read today Obama is going to Court Martial soldiers who share their Christian faith. Hannity said it even could effect Chaplains. Sorta like “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” for Christians.

Breitbart has the link.

So tell me.. how can a homosexual man get away with showering with straight guys? And yet straight guys can’t shower at the gym with straight females? I don’t get this. Oh I know I know.. gay people don’t get excised by showering with people they like to have sex with. They are…different.

JellyToast on May 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Can I bring my goat? I love him like my wife! He has no papers, I don’t know about his criminal history, but he’s already on food stamps and he uses some other guy’s SS# to work!

RovesChins on May 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

I listened to Rubio’s whole plan today. We could do worse.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM

I happened to just catch Hannity giving Marco “Judas” Rubio more airtime to lie and propagandize in favor of amnesty and he even praised him by saying “I know all your motives are good”.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:10 PM

I quit watching Hannity during the election. He simply refused to even acknowledge Perry’s even being present at the 3rd debate (who had made great strides since the first two and his back surgery), much less comment on how much improved he was (which was tremendous), but took the occasion to comment on Santorum and how MUCH he’d “improved” since his first debates.

He is obviously so much of a RINO, along with a few other talking heads at Fox that it’s useless to even listen to him.

avagreen on May 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Today’s ‘kabuki’ = tomorrow’s reality, folks. Why shouldn’t the libs set the bar high with their demands? They know that eventually the spineless GOP will give them whatever they want, and a little fun in demoralizing conservatives along the way is just an added inducement. The complicit media passes around and sets the ball and then Schumer et al. spike it. For example, U.S. News has tossed this little tidbit out there: How Student Debt Affects Women, Minorities and now it’s been dutifully picked up by HuffPo and then featured on the front page of Yahoo News. If you think the young and disaffected voter likes gay marriage, just wait til they get a load of this campaign. What’s not to love?!?

cynccook on May 1, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Once they drop this ridiculous piece of drama, they can tell everyone how they compromised.

ButterflyDragon on May 1, 2013 at 6:24 PM

And yet straight guys can’t shower at the gym with straight females?
JellyToast on May 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

That’s been my thoughts exactly. As well as why allow gays into the Boy Scouts if we don’t allow boys into the Girl Scouts???

avagreen on May 1, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Amnesty will never pass the House – and everyone knows it, so the left are going to hang whatever base-pleasing nonsense they can on it.

Rebar on May 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Uh… Boehner is working with Democrats now to pass the Democrat agenda. If Pelosi wants this… and Obama wants this.. Boehner doesn’t need Republicans. I can hear him say now.. “Amnesty is the law of the land.”

JellyToast on May 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Can I bring my goat? I love him like my wife! He has no papers, I don’t know about his criminal history, but he’s already on food stamps and he uses some other guy’s SS# to work!

RovesChins on May 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Yes, yes, all very impressive, but throw in a little fanatical hatred for Yankee imperialism and a few letters of non-recommendation from some foreign governments and you’ve got yourself a deal, son! Bienvenida a los estados stupidos, Mr. Whiskers!

cynccook on May 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM

The queers will never stop demanding things. They are depraved and demented.

Flange on May 1, 2013 at 6:04 PM

That’s nice. Since no one else has, I’ll call you out on that nonsense.

I don’t care what kills it.. Just let it be killed.

melle1228 on May 1, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I still have yet to see anyone offer up an actual logistical alternative to some form of a “pathway to citizenship”. To the point where Marco Rubio is one day the shining, rising star of conservatism, and the next, he’s tossed under the bus over immigration reform. Sure, perhaps this incarnation of a bill isn’t great…but something better get done soon.

JetBoy on May 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM

The dems are waaaaay over playin’ the gay card. Folks are sick of it.

Rational Thought on May 1, 2013 at 6:27 PM

I listened to Rubio’s whole plan today. We could do worse.
hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM

I’ve heard Rubio many times and he always sells the good parts, not the democrat parts. The border will be secured, it will be so great, and only 2 illegals will actually be eligible when they go through criminal background checks…because they always tell the truth and never steal other’s identities.
E-Verify for jobs and benefits. Allow the borders to be secured. Go after employers and make it very inhospitable to be here and they will leave.
They don’t want citizenship. They have a country. They want our money. And, get control of the visa system.
But, we get pandering and bs about shadows.

RovesChins on May 1, 2013 at 6:27 PM

I listened to Rubio’s whole plan today. We could do worse.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM

And Stage V cancer is worse than stage IV.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:27 PM

I still have yet to see anyone offer up an actual logistical alternative to some form of a “pathway to citizenship”. To the point where Marco Rubio is one day the shining, rising star of conservatism, and the next, he’s tossed under the bus over immigration reform. Sure, perhaps this incarnation of a bill isn’t great…but something better get done soon.

JetBoy on May 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM

We have a path to citizenship now. Our government doesn’t follow the law we have, but hey you know what will work? Let’s pass some more laws…

melle1228 on May 1, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Can I bring my goat? I love him like my wife! He has no papers, I don’t know about his criminal history, but he’s already on food stamps and he uses some other guy’s SS# to work!
RovesChins on May 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM
Yes, yes, all very impressive, but throw in a little fanatical hatred for Yankee imperialism and a few letters of non-recommendation from some foreign governments and you’ve got yourself a deal, son! Bienvenida a los estados stupidos, Mr. Whiskers!
cynccook on May 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM

His name is Juan Williams.

RovesChins on May 1, 2013 at 6:28 PM

I don’t know, I don’t want a bunch of foreigners going after all our gay athletes.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Militant gays won’t settle for tolerance – they demand acceptance using whatever means necessary, including human rights commissions and lawsuits, e.g. the recent suit against a florist.

In searching “tolerance vs acceptance” I found this useful essay.

Drained Brain on May 1, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Has anybody else figured out that OBOZO and the rest of the d-cRAT socialist extremists really want this atrocity to fail in the Repub-controlled House so that they can use that as weapon against all Repubs in 2014 and 2016?

TeaPartyNation on May 1, 2013 at 6:28 PM

I still have yet to see anyone offer up an actual logistical alternative to some form of a “pathway to citizenship”. To the point where Marco Rubio is one day the shining, rising star of conservatism, and the next, he’s tossed under the bus over immigration reform. Sure, perhaps this incarnation of a bill isn’t great…but something better get done soon.

JetBoy on May 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Why does something need to be done soon?

We already have statues on the books that were supposed to address the visa system problems and border security and none of them have been implemented. There’s no reason to believe that any of the security measures in the new bill will go anywhere – particularly since the legislation essentially just turns over the whole thing to a committee instead of actually legislating hard deadlines before the amnesty kicks in.

gwelf on May 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM

So now when a jihady is not sure if he will get a visa to US or not , all he has to do is get a fellow jihady to become his gay partner and then we let in 2 jihadies into USA instead of just 1.
Win win !

burrata on May 1, 2013 at 6:30 PM

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM

I am sure it has good points and well intentioned, the problem is that the feds don’t enforce laws that are already on the books. Be it illegal gun possession or immigration. This will be no different.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 6:30 PM

And yet straight guys can’t shower at the gym with straight females?
JellyToast on May 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Patience. That demand will come….probably from activist females on the basis of equal access…..not necessarily the ones doing the joint showering…and not that a lot of straight males would object.

hawkeye54 on May 1, 2013 at 6:31 PM

“It will virtually guarantee that [the bill] won’t pass,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a member of the Gang of Eight negotiating group, told POLITICO in a brief interview. “This issue is a difficult enough issue as it is. I respect everyone’s views on it. But ultimately, if that issue is injected into this bill, the bill will fail and the coalition that helped put it together will fall apart.”…

And it’s job done for Schumer, he’s weakened Rubio with the voting base and now he’ll blame the evil Republicans for failing to pass the amnesty.

When will Rubio open his eyes and realize that Schumer is not his friend, that Schumer is the very essence of hard left partisanship and Schumer does not wish one good thing for Rubio?

These guys get elected to the Senate and suddenly they’re frat brothers with the Kennedys and Schumers and they forget all about the folks back home that aren’t in their little Senate frat house.

RJL on May 1, 2013 at 6:31 PM

That’s been my thoughts exactly. As well as why allow gays into the Boy Scouts if we don’t allow boys into the Girl Scouts???

avagreen on May 1, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Exactly! Stay tuned for our exciting new pilot program currently being established in California:
California Mulling Bill To Allow Bathroom Use Based On Gender Identity

Soon those stale, arbitrary old ‘gender normative’ tags will be a thing of the past.

cynccook on May 1, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Its all I have. Sorry. : (

Bmore on May 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Together Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity, with their wide reach, could quite possibly kill off this sell out amnesty simply by in no uncertain terms totally denouncing it’s chief spokesmouth, Marco Rubio. If they fail to do so they are as guilty in selling out America as Rubio and the other 7 gang members are. I believe this to be logically incontestable.

Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity have all gotten quite rich because of their loyal fan and because of America. And no, I do not think they therefore owe the government more taxes as I think they are all probably paying more than their fair share already, but they do owe their loyal fans and America who made them rich a lot and most of their fans are against amnesty for illegal invaders and they all claim to be too. By not denouncing and condemning the chief spokesmouth for amnesty for illegal invaders they are giving him cover (and Hannity just gave him more air time to spin his lies) and, in effect aid and comfort, and making it more likely that he will succeed in bringing down the Republic. If he does succeed it will be in large part thanks to them. What a way to say thank you to their loyal fans and to America.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Can we also sponsor more islamic terrorists?

rbj on May 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM

worth repeating……..in a poll this week 25% of ALL MEXICANS would be willing to cross the border illegally if they could.

25% !!!!!

PappyD61 on May 1, 2013 at 6:34 PM

I am sure it has good points and well intentioned, the problem is that the feds don’t enforce laws that are already on the books. Be it illegal gun possession or immigration. This will be no different.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Not to mention the fact that Rubio has repeatedly said that his plan would not make anyone getting amnesty be eligible for welfare; it isn’t true.

http://twitchy.com/2013/04/25/team-rubio-says-no-welfare-but-its-amnesty-bill-says-otherwise/

melle1228 on May 1, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Exactly! Stay tuned for our exciting new pilot program currently being established in California:
California Mulling Bill To Allow Bathroom Use Based On Gender Identity

Not just CA, some other states and cities are mulling over that kind of legislation.

hawkeye54 on May 1, 2013 at 6:35 PM

JetBoy on May 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM

If you want to call someone out then actually do it. You said nothing. You people won’t stop demanding and demanding. If you think I’m wrong say something like WHEN you think they will stop pushing their demented lifestyle? But you can’t because you know I’m right and if you choose a place where they might stop demanding it will get throw back in your face repeatedly in 6 months when the queers go skipping past and keep demanding that their prevertions be acceptable

Flange on May 1, 2013 at 6:35 PM

We have a path to citizenship now. Our government doesn’t follow the law we have, but hey you know what will work? Let’s pass some more laws…

melle1228 on May 1, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Yes, yes, but what’s the point in pandering to the illegals if they can’t vote Democrat?!? Now of course, we could do what certain barbaric foreign governments (like Messico) do — deport illegals, but come now, that wouldn’t be very sporting, would it?

cynccook on May 1, 2013 at 6:35 PM

They are having fun playing Rubio now. They know they can’t hold him in the fold with the lack of enforcement they demand and thus they know they have lost him. So why not get some traction out of that is what they’re doing.

No need to get vitriolic at this point on Rubio. He sees Cruz’s sword in the ground and knows he can’t touch it. Rubio will be back and will help the GOP in other ways but he sure trashed his star didn’t he?

Hey Marco, how was that foray into bi-partisanship with 6 flaming liberals and Jeff Flake? ouch!

DanMan on May 1, 2013 at 6:36 PM

I am sure it has good points and well intentioned

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Don’t fall for Rubio’s crap. Any good points will never happen and Rubio’s intentions are not good as he is not some clueless 3 year old.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Proving what an azzhole Rubio is…his company too.

This will ‘improve’ the chances, deas sure.

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Its all I have. Sorry. : (

Bmore on May 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM

LOL Nicely done, B. I like that Schumer is in a dress. If that dude doesn’t dress that way in private, I’ll eat my hat. But you missed my ex — Paul Ryan. Shouldn’t he have a place in the band? Also, perhaps an ‘anchor baby,’ with a nice star-spangled anchor.

How have you been?

cynccook on May 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM

http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/04/29/u-s-image-rebounds-in-mexico/

It was a Pew poll.

It was 35% would move to the USA if they could and 20% that would do it illegally.

AMNESTY = finish emptying MEXICO

PappyD61 on May 1, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Soon those stale, arbitrary old ‘gender normative’ tags will be a thing of the past.

Some places are already working on that.

hawkeye54 on May 1, 2013 at 6:39 PM

liberals don’t want immigration to pass, it would hurt their union $$$$. this is just another way for them to secure the brown vote

burserker on May 1, 2013 at 6:39 PM

It means preserving certain grievances against the GOP that can be used against them in 2014 and beyond to keep core Democratic constituencies alienated when Republicans try to build on the “goodwill” they’ll have allegedly earned by passing this thing.

At first I was dumbfounded as to why Republicans let Democrats write the bill with no apparent concessions. Then it dawned on me that the GOPe strategy is to completely wipe the ethnic demagoguery off the political map. The only way they can do that is to give democrats everything so they will have nothing on this issue to campaign over If the conservative base complains over the next few years they will just point back to the bill and say DHS is “developing a plan” to secure the border and enforce our laws.

Wigglesworth on May 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM

I listened to Rubio’s whole plan today. We could do worse.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Rubio isn’t very bright.

Cruz is the real deal.

Rubio couldn’t even give a 5 minute speech without taking a drink of water and looking like a joke.

He is just being run out to lie to conservatives on talk radio.

The people just arrested in connection with the Boston bombing are illegals. But don’t let Rubio hear that.

The entire plan is more welfare and votes for Democrats.

The faster Texas turns blue the better.

tetriskid on May 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Its all I have. Sorry. : (

Bmore on May 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM

You still haven’t put Ms. Lindsey in a pretty pink dress.

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Rubio was probably the number one pusher for America to use military force to kill Gaddafi which brought real Muslims to power and, among other things, lead to Benghazi. Now he wants to do the same in Syria, in between working toward his main goal of “earnesty” for tens of millions of illegal criminal alien invaders. The man is the plague.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Bmore on May 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM

It’s great.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Rubio was probably the number one pusher for America to use military force to kill Gaddafi which brought real Muslims to power and, among other things, lead to Benghazi. Now he wants to do the same in Syria, in between working toward his main goal of “earnesty” for tens of millions of illegal criminal alien invaders. The man is the plague.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Yep.

Endangered Christians in the region big time.

tetriskid on May 1, 2013 at 6:41 PM

I guess this means Catholic Democrats…especially any liberal clergy that supported the immigration bill are in a bit of a quandary now aren’t they?

Kinda like Obamacare.

Rubio was a dupe and he can suffer the dunces fate for willingly being the face of this atrocious bill.

workingclass artist on May 1, 2013 at 6:41 PM

It’s beyond time for people on the Right to accept that the Dems never wanted an Amnesty Bill. They could have pushed for one immediately after passing Porculus back in 2009, and the ‘Pubes would have fallen all over themselves to pass it. They went for Obamacare instead because that’s what they really wanted.

They didn’t want a Gun Bill either. The White House wants to demagogue these issues to take back the House in 2014. And they just might. It’s a disaster if they win it back, but the ‘Pubes deserve to lose it- they’ve really screwed up badly.

sartana on May 1, 2013 at 6:42 PM

It was 35% would move to the USA if they could and 20% that would do it illegally.

AMNESTY = finish emptying MEXICO

Viva la Reconquista!! Viva Aztlan!!!

hawkeye54 on May 1, 2013 at 6:42 PM

It’s beyond time for people on the Right to accept that the Dems never wanted an Amnesty Bill. They could have pushed for one immediately after passing Porculus back in 2009, and the ‘Pubes would have fallen all over themselves to pass it. They went for Obamacare instead because that’s what they really wanted.

They didn’t want a Gun Bill either. The White House wants to demagogue these issues to take back the House in 2014. And they just might. It’s a disaster if they win it back, but the ‘Pubes deserve to lose it- they’ve really screwed up badly.

sartana on May 1, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Good points.

tetriskid on May 1, 2013 at 6:44 PM

But we’ve been assured that homosexuals just want to be left alone.
gwelf on May 1, 2013 at 6:19 PM

They do. Well, with schoolchildren, that is:
Middle school girls told to ‘ask for a lesbian kiss’ in anti-bullying workshop

whatcat on May 1, 2013 at 6:45 PM

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM

It doesn’t bother me that they aren’t attacking Rubio, but they should absolutely be shredding this horrible amnesty bill.(I rarely listen to them so I don’t know if they are) Then it will be Rubio’s choice if he wants to stay trapped inside the sinking amnesty ship or if he wants to try and salvage his political life by abandoning it.

Wigglesworth on May 1, 2013 at 6:46 PM

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM

All 3 of them are handling Marco Rubio like the liberals handle Obama…cause he’s The Precious

*blech*

workingclass artist on May 1, 2013 at 6:46 PM

I guess this means Catholic Democrats…especially any liberal clergy that supported the immigration bill are in a bit of a quandary now aren’t they?

workingclass artist on May 1, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Not at all. Catholic and Democrat are a contradiction in terms. You cannot be both. For example, today as I was picking up my 2nd grader from her Catholic school today, the 7th grader we give a ride to told me that he had to stay in the office while all the other 7th and 8th graders listened to a speaker in the gym. I asked why on earth that was and he casually answered that it was because it was a pro-life speaker and his mom wouldn’t sign the permission slip for him to attend. This from a woman who faithfully attends Mass every Sunday and whose son is an altar server. See how screwed up we are?

cynccook on May 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM

They do. Well, with schoolchildren, that is:
Middle school girls told to ‘ask for a lesbian kiss’ in anti-bullying workshop

Work on destroying our traditional Judeo-Christian values continues with indoctrinating the young.

hawkeye54 on May 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM

And Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity continue to support and even praise Rubio, the chief faceman and spokesmouth for all this crap. Three pathetic excuses for men.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Seems like every time I turn on Rush,he is trying to explain away his support for amnesty (Rubio). He sounds like some of the Libs who support Obama no matter how much damage he does to them. I know Rush’s life won’t change one bit after Rubio’s amnesty has turned the country into a third world cesspool like Mexico, but I wish he would take a minute to consider what will happen to the rest of us.

Alabama Infidel on May 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM

You have no chance any more GRINGOS. None at all. Your empty strutting peacock, your el Presidente is now ruling like a King and is the commander of your armed forces with all your generals now appointed by him and now my boss owns him. He had to pay him muchos dolares as he is very greedy man and does not seem to think that he can ever have too much money. They almost bankrupt my boss You are now tostada quemada. What on Earth were you thinking when you elected a traidor as your el Presidente? Were you all completely drunk? Way too much Tequila on election day? And two times for God’s sake!!!? Oh well, your loss and our gain. And now Senor Rubio is even going to put up a Big Gate for us, maybe we wasted a lot of money!

Once we get our earnesty from our for now dear amigo Marco, we will all come to your country. We will all have at least 10 ninos with mucho tax credits from you Gringo smucks and in a generation or two we will overwhelm and deport most of you Gringos! We will start with Arizona after your el Presidente moves federal troops there to arrest their governor and Joe Arpaio and hand the deed over to us and then we will move rapido from there all across the rest of your 57 states to take them over too. Some of you, if you learn Spanish real well, we might let you stay to pick our lettuce or mow our lawns or take care of OUR children in what used to be your houses. Those who don’t learn Spanish will be deported to Alaska. That is until Al Gore’s global warming heats things up and we want Alaska too, then we will deport you all to New Orleans. It will probably all be under water by then anyway.

So give it up and LEARN SPANISH! You should probably all buy Mexican flags too and fly them in your front yard and on your pickup trucks. If you already have an American flag there it is alright if you keep it, as long as you fly it upside down and below our great Mexican flag. Now repeat after me – I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Estados Unidos del Mucho Grande Mexico, and to the Republic for which it use to stand, one nation under us, with everything for us, and nothing anymore for you except to pay mucho mucho mucho more taxes for our tax credits. And remember Gringos, APRENDER EL ESPANOL!!!

NoBordersJose on May 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Yup — homosexuals want ‘only’ civil rights. They have no agenda at all!

BULLCOOKIES!

Liam on May 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM

I guess this means Catholic Democrats…especially any liberal clergy that supported the immigration bill are in a bit of a quandary now aren’t they?
Kinda like Obamacare.
Rubio was a dupe and he can suffer the dunces fate for willingly being the face of this atrocious bill.
workingclass artist on May 1, 2013 at 6:41 PM

That’s right! Good point. Illegal alien Hispanics are all Catholics and republicans in waiting because they believe in traditional values or something.

Rubio, I can hear your a$$ hair being played all the way here. Or, maybe that’s just Juan Williams, my goat boy, wanting some attentions

RovesChins on May 1, 2013 at 6:49 PM

THE AMNESTY EIGHT!!

TRAITORS that won’t defend the national borders of this great country!!

PappyD61 on May 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM

But somehow Rubio is given one excuse after another, by people who claim to be against amnesty, even though he is it’s main pusher and spokes mouth, face man liar, and hence the very worst of the stinking lot of them.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Smells like Obama…Transformative and all…

workingclass artist on May 1, 2013 at 6:49 PM

It is not an immigration thread until NoBordersJose shows up.

Btw, completely O/T, but can someone tell me why the terrorists needed Vaseline? I mean, hello?

RovesChins on May 1, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Alabama Infidel on May 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM

I think both Rush and Levin had such high hopes for Rubio. I know I did. It’s tough to walk away, I can see wanting to give him another chance. The sad thing is that he is wasting capital on he himself said won’t get through the House.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 6:51 PM

And Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity continue to support and even praise Rubio, the chief faceman and spokesmouth for all this crap. Three pathetic excuses for men.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

+1

Add the entire Faux shilling operation to them.

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Rubio is cooked. Forget wasting energy and anything else on him.

Schadenfreude on May 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Slippery. Slope.

gregbert on May 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM

I think Limbaugh,Levin and Hannity are taking heat from their fans over the Rubio coddling…

And that’s what it is…If Rubio weren’t the great Latino Hope of the GOP it would be a different story.

So much for conservatives not stooping to identity politics.

*Blech*

workingclass artist on May 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

At this point, for the Ds Immigration Reform is only about killing Marco Stoogio with his former base. Has that numbnuts figured this out yet?

Too friggin dumb to be anywhere near the WH, is Stoogio.

james23 on May 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Legalization of 20 million illegal aliens is no different than a path to citizenship. If the GOP will cave on legalization they will absolutely cave on a path to citizenship at some point in the future. We are better off with no legalization bill.

Wigglesworth on May 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

It doesn’t bother me that they aren’t attacking Rubio, but they should absolutely be shredding this horrible amnesty bill.(I rarely listen to them so I don’t know if they are) Then it will be Rubio’s choice if he wants to stay trapped inside the sinking amnesty ship or if he wants to try and salvage his political life by abandoning it.

Wigglesworth on May 1, 2013 at 6:46 PM

What Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity are doing is the equivalent of, back several decades ago, saying you are against communism but you really like Stalin. I would call such people actual supporters of communism. If Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity are too stupid to figure this out they are all going senile.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Because the Democrats, and Rubio, feel that 33 million granted AMNESTY, and all the chain immigration that will result from those… and REDEFINING THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF EXTENDED FAMILY TO EXPAND IT TO INCLUDE MORE FAMILY MEMBERS… just isn’t enough.

Uh…no! I agree with the assessment that this is political theater. This is the ‘throw away’ item they’ll use to try and GET all those 33 million PLUS chain immigration WITH the expanded definition of immediate family PLUS leaving the border wide open PLUS changing the annual number of accepted LEGAL IMMIGRANTS from 1 million to 3 million PLUS changing the number of worker visas granted every year from about 700,000 to 1 million.

Did I mention that all of these 33 million would be immediately eligible for state and local welfare benefits immediately, and many would also qualify for some of the 83 means tested federal welfare programs immediately, too. ANY of them who had a child on US soil would immediately qualify for ALL welfare benefits, state, local, and federal through that child.

thatsafactjack on May 1, 2013 at 6:55 PM

The picture on the front page is … interesting. Were there really that many people lined up to announce this stupid brilliant idea? I’m hoping this was just a stock photo.

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM

I think Limbaugh,Levin and Hannity are taking heat from their fans over the Rubio coddling…

workingclass artist on May 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Some of us are doing our part but we need a lot more troops as they all seem to be rather hard of hearing.

VorDaj on May 1, 2013 at 6:58 PM

This is a set-up.

To oppose amnesty is now billed as being ‘anti-gay bigotry’.

These guys will stop at nothing.

Liam on May 1, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Just what we need–more perverts in our country–Not!

Bullhead on May 1, 2013 at 7:02 PM

I am no legal expert but isn’t the DOMA still the law of the land? So, how do they get the provision in their for SS couples? The SCOTUS hasn’t ruled yet on SSM so are they going to violate existing law by putting this in the immigration bill?

rsherwd65 on May 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Shocking to think that the federal government would fail to enforce the law of the land, I know. I hate to be the one to disillusion you, but

Obama administration will no longer defend DOMA

cynccook on May 1, 2013 at 7:02 PM

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