Breaking: Boston PD: 3 more arrested in Boston Marathon bombing; Update: Harboring? Update: “College students”; Update: Dumped fireworks-filled backpacks

posted at 11:13 am on May 1, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Nothing more than a tweet from the Boston Police Department;s official account, but that’s spreading like wildfire on Twitter — for understandable reasons:

This makes it seem as though Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev weren’t self-radicalized lone wolves after all.  We’ll update as more information becomes available.

Update: It’s no hack on the Twitter account, either.

We’ll see what the BPD has to say next….

Update: CBS Boston has this report, which doesn’t go much farther than the tweet:

Boston police say three additional suspects have been taken into custody in Boston Marathon bombings investigation.

Their names have not been released.  Police said more details will be released later today.

Earlier today, lawyers for two men friendly with suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev said their clients have been extensively interviewed by federal investigators.

Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev, both originally from Kazakhstan, appeared via video for a visa violation hearing in immigration court in Boston on Wednesday.

It may not be these two who got arrested, either.

Update: John Miller at CBS says the arrests are for harboring or aiding the Tsarnaevs after the attack:

That could be the two men and the woman in New Bedford who were initially detained, and who were mentioned in the last update.

Update: According to Boston.com, they are “college students”:

Three college students have been arrested in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings, a Boston police source said this morning.

The Boston police official Twitter account said that three additional “suspects” had been taken into custody.

The source said the three had been arrested by federal authorities.

That would also describe the New Bedford trio, at least two of whom were arrested by federal authorities on immigration violations.

Update: This makes it sound like three other students:

Update: The update from CBS Boston names the two arrested in New Beford the day after Dzhokhar’s capture, however:

According to CBS News, the arrested are three friends of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

Two will be charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice and making false statement. They are not U.S. citizens.

According to WBZ-TV’s Karen Anderson, their names are Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev.  Both are originally from Kazakhstan and attened the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

The third suspect, according to CBS News, is an American citizen and he will be charged with making false statements.

How stupid do you have to be to obstruct an investigation of a terrorist bombing?  Either you have to be monumentally stupid — or involved in the plot.

Update: The Boston PD wants everyone to know that there is no danger to the public:

CNN is also confirming that two of the three are the students from New Bedford:

A Department of Homeland security source with first-hand knowledge of the investigation, said two of them are students from New Bedford, Massachusetts. They have been arrested on charges of making false statements to investigators and conspiracy to obstruct justice.

A third student had been arrested who is a U.S. citizen, the source said.

We’ll see what their obstruction was when charges are unsealed.  According to CBS, the charges are all related to post-bombing activities, but it’s difficult to imagine that anyone would sign up for the plot after the killing took place and it became clear that the FBI and Boston PD were rapidly narrowing the search based on what took place at the marathon.

Update: More from NBC:

Sources told NBC News the three are college roommates of accused bomber Dzokhar Tsarnaev and are suspected of removing items from his dorm at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth.

There was no indication they had any prior knowledge of the bombing. Sources said the FBI had been investigating them for about 10 days.

It’s possible that they were stupid enough to sign up for the plot after it took place.  It doesn’t seem terribly likely, though — but prosecutors can only charge what they can prove, too.

Update: Boston’s CBS affiliate has this video update:

There are some good caveats Orr offers, but again, why would anyone lie to the FBI and police days after this bombing on behalf of the Tsarnaevs, unless they had a personal interest in the plot? They could really be that stupid — it’s certainly possible — but it stretches credulity, and I imagine the FBI and Boston PD are thinking the same thing.

Update: The CBS Boston story has been updated to note that the charges will be federal, not state.

Update: According to the Washington Post, the three dumped material at the landfill after the bombings, after Dzhokhar asked them to help him out:

The three were identified as friends of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, who has been charged with carrying out the bombings along with his brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26. The younger brother was a student at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, the same school attended by the students at various points in recent months, according to authorities.

Two federal law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing inquiry, said the three disposed of material at a Boston area landfill at the request of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev following the bombings.

The Boston Police said Wednesday that they had arrested three suspects in connection with the bombing but did not identify them or provide further details.

Last week, federal investigators searched a landfill at New Bedford, Mass., after a tip that evidence had been left there.

I wonder if the FBI ever found what they were searching for in that landfill. They have said nothing about it since the search.

Update: What exactly did they dump? According to CNN, they just helped Dzhokhar get rid of … fireworks-filled backpacks:

– A federal law enforcement official told CNN on Wednesday that the charges against two of the individuals taken into custody involve allegedly lying to officials, because when first questioned by the FBI they lied about not seeing the suspects and not knowing their whereabouts after the attack.

– The federal law enforcement source said the charge of conspiring to obstruct justice relates to their moving things from Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s dorm room and throwing them into a dumpster. The source said the objects disposed of included fireworks inside backpacks. The trash bin subsequently was taken to a nearby landfill. Authorities carried out a two-day search of the landfill in New Bedford late last week.

All right, bear with me here. Let’s say your college roommate asked you to take backpacks filled with fireworks to the dumpster just a day or two after terrorists bombed the city. You might not be bright enough to put two and two together just on that account. But when the FBI shows up afterward, why not just tell them, “Hey, Joe told me to dump some backpacks that had fireworks in them, and I’ll show you where I took them”? Lying at that point is either a demonstration of incurable stupidity or some form of collusion.


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I guess Scooter’s speech at the University of Cairo in July of 2009, designed to “fix things’ with the Muslim World, didn’t work, huh?

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM

‘Look, these Lone Wolves were just some other guys Lone Wolves in the neighbourhood ‘Stan that they knew. They hung out together chooming. The system worked…any other allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people!’

- President Obama

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Not all Muslims™ harbor Jihadis.

mwbri on May 1, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Interesting interpretation. Wrong. But interesting.

Chris of Rights on May 1, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Indeed may turn out to be wrong.
But as it stands now there doesn’t seem to have been a larger group involved…or someone directing it from the outside.
I have been and remain open to that possibility.
But speculation aside, present available info and facts do not support that theory.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:44 AM

What?

Translator?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Too much early morning hair-of-the-dog maybe?

farsighted on May 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Roommates per Pete Williams

cmsinaz on May 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Obama needs another super-storm or oil spill..
Something….

Electrongod on May 1, 2013 at 11:27 AM

It’s snowing here in Colorado…that should cover it. Colorado: the new California…sux

kirkill on May 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Funny how no matter what the trolls say in threads like this, they always sound like they’re rooting for the bad guys.

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Indeed. Why is verbaluce here? He’s dull. Maybe he stole lostmotherland’s handle.

22044 on May 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

I’m gonna guess that one of these students disposed of Pez Dispenser’s laptop in a landfill. Just a guess…

joejm65 on May 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

When told of the arrests, Speedbump had that rundown feeling…all over again.

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Um, if your friend crashes at your place overnight, you aren’t going to be arrested for harboring if you have no idea about his bank robbery.

rbj on May 1, 2013 at 11:37 AM

True. And if they’re not guilty of doing anything more nefarious than hooking up a bud, I hope they’re released as quickly. If you carry it out though, it’s probably a good bet that these people didn’t provide any leads to authorities after their stay with them.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Boston Police Dept. ‏@Boston_Police 8m
UPDATE: Boston Marathon Investigation: Please be advised there is no threat to the public. http://j.mp/15ZQDVK

Benghazi whistle-blowers have NOT been notified!

Rovin on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Funny how no matter what the trolls say in threads like this, they always sound like they’re rooting for the bad guys.

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM

They are.

Bishop on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Too much early morning hair-of-the-dog maybe?

farsighted on May 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Just to be clear, I was referring to a possible cause of the troll’s nonsensical comment.

farsighted on May 1, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM

I am reminded of Newt Gingrich’s novels where imagines the South winning the Civil War.
I think he made up stuff Lincoln and Davis said as well.
I haven’t read it, but do know that a healthy imagination can be the fuel for a good story.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Gee, that Muslim studies course at Univ of Boston Dartmouth is starting to thin down…

kirkill on May 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Funny how no matter what the trolls say in threads like this, they always sound like they’re rooting for the bad guys.

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM

They are.

Bishop on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Seconded.

Liam on May 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM

…but do know that a healthy imagination can be the fuel for a good story.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:48 AM

According to WBZ-TV’s Karen Anderson, their names are Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev. Both are originally from Kazakhstan and attened the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

The third suspect, according to CBS News, is an American citizen and he will be charged with making false statements.

Yep. Defnintely a bunch of Southern Baptists from Mississippi.

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 11:50 AM

How stupid do you have to be to obstruct an investigation of a terrorist bombing? Either you have to be monumentally stupid

Look at Gosnell’s staff or the people caught on anti-abortion tapes, who do not realise or do realise and do not care that a child born alive is no longer a foetus.

I’ve had debates with people who have argued that 1) a foetus isn’t a human being until it graduates from HS (Hey, dropouts! You are soooo SOOL!), 2) believe that Sarah Palin actually said that she could see Russia from her house, 3) believe that government spending is capitalism, etc. Then, there are the petitions that idiots sign to ban water, salt, and air or in support of a Nazi takeover of the United States (the last one, ironically, was overwhelmingly supported by California liberals), etc. Finally, there are the constituents of ‘Dora the Explorer’ Jackson-Lee and ‘Tipping Guam’ Johnson.

When it comes to ‘monumental stupidity,’ the USA is the land ‘o plenty.

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 11:51 AM

How stupid do you have to be to obstruct an investigation of a terrorist bombing? Either you have to be monumentally stupid — or involved in the plot.

Well, how stupid do we have to be to have the greatest place to live in the history of the world, and then blow it by importing 30 million people from the third world, alien to our culture and values?

Ted Torgerson on May 1, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Boston Bombing: College Prank gone wrong?

Lily on May 1, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Gee, that Muslim studies course at Univ of Boston Dartmouth is starting to thin down…

kirkill on May 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM

To say nothing of the course on how to make a bomb in your mother’s kitchen.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Funny how no matter what the trolls say in threads like this, they always sound like they’re rooting for the bad guys.

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM

They are.

Bishop on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Seconded.

Liam on May 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Now that they know they aren’t right-wing Tea Party types.

The trolls would behave differently if they were.

farsighted on May 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM

farsighted on May 1, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I understood. ChrisofRight seemed to understand what it was saying.

I think Steve Eggleston just needs to start having his Liberal-to-English translator handy.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM

…but do know that a healthy imagination can be the fuel for a good story.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Let’s talk about healthy imaginations, shall we?

‘Name one nation which is free or freer, due to Obama, I triple dare you. Why can’t anyone answer this question?

Schadenfreude on April 30, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Iraq
US

verbaluce on April 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM

LOL! Iraq is about to fall back into civil war and the US is less free…

Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Iraq on the brink, again

Tolja so, dummkopf!

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM

verbs out of balance,

Your way over your head.

You do not even know yourself.

Long on misdirection.

Short on truth.

Born to lie.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Funny how no matter what the trolls say in threads like this, they always sound like they’re rooting for the bad guys.
CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM

They are.

Bishop on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM

No..I am 100% against Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.
I want to know what really happened – and I trust that the good guys of the various LEA are fully motivated to find the truth.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM

RWM is not satisfied with the first blood on HAL. Going for 2-0 on verb.

nobar on May 1, 2013 at 11:56 AM

If the cops do not have some solid evidence supporting their arrest of these “students” they will be accused of bigoted “profiling”. They have to know that. So my guess is they must have something solid.

farsighted on May 1, 2013 at 11:56 AM

They are.

Bishop on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Seconded.

Liam on May 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Now that they know they aren’t right-wing Tea Party types.

The trolls would behave differently if they were.

farsighted on May 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM

They already did. gumbyandpokey, nonpartisan and libfreeordie all were stomping their heels and ALL-CAPPING their comments when the pictures first hit the street and they just looked white. The pos gumby seemed glad people had died to further the liberal cause.

ISYN.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Let’s talk about healthy imaginations, shall we?
Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Like maybe thinking you’re some free thinker…and not just some Bush/Republican apologist…because you don’t like John McCain?

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Gee, that Muslim studies course at Univ of Boston Dartmouth is starting to thin down…

kirkill on May 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM

-
In the spirit of accuracy, (not snark) it’s Umass at Dartmouth (Ma) not Univ. of Boston. These are 2 different schools.

diogenes on May 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Like maybe thinking you’re some free thinker…and not just some Bush/Republican apologist…because you don’t like John McCain?

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Er, I never voted for Bush.

Try again.

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Bishop on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM
No..I am 100% against Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.
I want to know what really happened – and I trust that the good guys of the various LEA are fully motivated to find the truth.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Are you also 100 percent against Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer jumping the gun calling them tax day terrorists and tea-partiers?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM

I have been and remain open to that possibility.
But speculation aside, present available info and facts do not support that theory.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Except, of course, for the fact that female DNA was found on the bombs and the Tsarnaevs don’t seem to have built the bombs. And of course the roomates being detained couldn’t possibly have helped get rid of the evidence that would incriminate them.

But other than that, you’re right. The boys just let a prank get out of hand. And, of course, Nadal Hassan went postal and Abdulhakim Muhammad was just protesting the war in Afghanistan.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Like maybe thinking you’re some free thinker…and not just some Bush/Republican apologist…because you don’t like John McCain?

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Ladies and gentlemen…this is an offical Troll Threadjacking Alert (TM). By engaging in ad hominem, our featured Troll of the Day (TM) is attempting to disrupt this thread, because it shows their president and his Administration in a bad light.

Do not attempt to adjust your monitor. Adult discussion will now continue.

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Funny how no matter what the trolls say in threads like this, they always sound like they’re rooting for the bad guys.

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Because they are.

Of course, they think America is the bad guy, so to them, they’re rooting for the good guys.

Washington Nearsider on May 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Er, I never voted for Bush.

Try again.

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Like that matters. Liberals KNOW you really, really wanted to! ;-)

Liam on May 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Let’s talk about healthy imaginations, shall we?
Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Like maybe thinking you’re some free thinker…and not just some Bush/Republican apologist…because you don’t like John McCain?

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Slam dunk on verb in 5…4…3…2

Come on RWM! Bring it!! ;-D

Scrumpy on May 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I’d go with Reagan/Republican and then no one needs to apologize.

Cindy Munford on May 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Wow. Talking about blowing the official WH narrative all to Blazes…

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Are you also 100 percent against Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer jumping the gun calling them tax day terrorists and tea-partiers?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Fake but accurate thinking from the left. Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer just KNOW that the right is filled with tax day terrorists just waiting for a chance to bring down the JFK library.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Er, I never voted for Bush.

Try again.

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen, round 2 of RWM-smackdown is about to begin.

nobar on May 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Talking about blowing the official WH narrative all to Blazes…

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

White House presser this afternoon for the rat-eared coward to declare that the Boston Police acted stupidly.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Like maybe thinking you’re some free thinker…and not just some Bush/Republican apologist…because you don’t like John McCain?

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM

BTW…

I have NEVER been a Republican.

NOT.
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ONE.
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SINGLE.
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DAY.
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IN.
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MY.
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ENTIRE.
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LIFE.

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Funny how no matter what the trolls say in threads like this, they always sound like they’re rooting for the bad guys.
CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM

They are.

Bishop on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM

‘Cuz they have three things in common. Civility, tolerance, and peacefulness.

antipc on May 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Surrrrprise Surrrrprise, Surrrrprise.

Not.

dogsoldier on May 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Well said.

Verbulace’s logic really doesn’t stand up too well against anyone here it seems.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Let’s just take a moment to summarize the general speculation from many here…

‘Breaking: Boston PD: 3 more arrested in Boston Marathon bombing..

fairly quick back-slapping consensus forms that they are jihadists in on the plot and now everyone’s about to find out the truth behind the expansive and multi-layered operation…and how it wasn’t just these guys. Wait ’til the tolls here this!’

Update…10 mins later:

There was no indication they had any prior knowledge of the bombing. Sources said the FBI had been investigating them for about 10 days.

‘Ahh…um….attack the trolls!’

Ha.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Isn’t it “strange” the SPLC never warns us about the actual terrorists in America..?

d1carter on May 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

They already did. gumbyandpokey, nonpartisan and libfreeordie all were stomping their heels and ALL-CAPPING their comments when the pictures first hit the street and they just looked white. The pos gumby seemed glad people had died to further the liberal cause.

ISYN.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM

The more obvious it becomes that Comrade O’s domestic anti-terrorism policy has failed the more the trolls will attack people on HA who point it out.

Their new talking points seem to be… “There is no evidence! HA is just like Infowars! And Alex Jones! Right-wing extremists!”

Eventually they will get around to blaming the Tea Party for spreading all crazy conspiracy theories.

farsighted on May 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Boston Police Department News Conference

Longing4Lincoln on May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

indeed….

hey who’s up for a round of golf this afternoon, nothing on my schedule
-dear leader

cmsinaz on May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

You didn’t post Ed’s opinion,Skippy. Only NBC’s. I’m shocked.

It’s possible that they were stupid enough to sign up for the plot after it took place. It doesn’t seem terribly likely, though — but prosecutors can only charge what they can prove, too.

There are some good caveats Orr offers, but again, why would anyone lie to the FBI and police days after this bombing on behalf of the Tsarnaevs, unless they had a personal interest in the plot? They could really be that stupid — it’s certainly possible — but it stretches credulity, and I imagine the FBI and Boston PD are thinking the same thing.

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Longing4Lincoln on May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Hasn’t started yet, but that’s the feed.

Longing4Lincoln on May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Does this have anything to do with our immigration policies or is it just a pinging machine problem..?

d1carter on May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Isn’t it “strange” the SPLC never warns us about the actual terrorists in America..?

d1carter on May 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

THIS!!!!!!

cmsinaz on May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Sure.
And just how much are you not one?

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Let’s just take a moment to summarize the general speculation from the troll here…

I DON’T CARE WHAT THE NEWS OR ANY OF YOU SAY THEY DIDN’T DO ANYTHING!!!!!!

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

As my critique wasn’t of Ed…why would I?
He’s capable of keeping his sensible mind open to lots of possibilities here.
As you show.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

‘Ahh…um….attack the trolls!’

Ha.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

So you are admitting you are a troll then.

VegasRick on May 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Was verby the LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! YOUTUBE ga guy?

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

As my critique wasn’t of Ed…why would I?
He’s capable of keeping his sensible mind open to lots of possibilities here.
As you show.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Because you’re not open to anyone’s political ideology, except your own Liberal one?

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Bishop on May 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM
No..I am 100% against Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.
I want to know what really happened – and I trust that the good guys of the various LEA are fully motivated to find the truth.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Are you also 100 percent against Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer jumping the gun calling them tax day terrorists and tea-partiers?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Smacked a nerve there, didn’t I.

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

I’m sure the first question to be asked at the BPD presser will be, “Did you read them their Miranda rights yet?”

Liam on May 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Isn’t it “strange” the SPLC never warns us about the actual terrorists in America..?

d1carter on May 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

You mean Chick-fil-A and the Family Research Council aren’t hate groups?

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM

“There are some good caveats Orr offers, but again, why would anyone lie to the FBI and police days after this bombing on behalf of the Tsarnaevs, unless they had a personal interest in the plot?”

Maybe they were jumping on the “jihadi” bandwagon? Never let a good crisis go to waste as they say.

rsherwd65 on May 1, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Except, of course, for the fact that female DNA was found on the bombs and the Tsarnaevs don’t seem to have built the bombs. And of course the roomates being detained couldn’t possibly have helped get rid of the evidence that would incriminate them.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM

As I said before…I trust LEA here to be thorough and look at every possibility. And also to be more capable of understanding what some facts might and might not mean.

investigators do not know to whom the DNA belonged, and they caution that the DNA does not necessarily mean another suspect was involved in the attack:

“There could be multiple explanations for why genetic material from someone other than the two bombing suspects—Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother, Dzhokhar—could have been found on remnants of the exploded devices. It could have come, for example, from a store clerk who handled materials used in the bombs or a stray hair that ended up in the bomb.”

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Not all Muslims™ harbor Jihadis.

mwbri on May 1, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Heh.now that is funny.

nagee76 on May 1, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Eventually they will get around to blaming the Tea Party for spreading all crazy conspiracy theories.

farsighted on May 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

That’s sort of what’s happening on this thread. Verbaluce is at a loss as to how to spin it into a right-wing conspiracy. So, it tries to spin our conversation into conservatives making baseless accusations and jumping the gun. In order words we’re making up conspiracies here.

The bottom line and focal point is his administration is simply failing to keep us safe. His deference to anyone he fears can claim profiling causes us to overlook many people I fear should be investigated. His ROE has allowed literally hundreds of our soldiers to die because they don’t have the same rules to protect themselves that they had under President Bush.

obama is a failure on yet another of his chief responsibilities.

Color me shocked.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I’m sure the first question to be asked at the BPD presser will be, “Did you read them their Miranda rights yet?”

Liam on May 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

You’re kidding right? Clearly the first question is going to be if any of the three being detained are gays. Because, for whatever reason, that seems to be the most important thing these days.

Next question is if they had guns. Follow up about their status in this country and if they are not citizens then when did they get here.

The media is making these terrorists into folk heros and I don’t like it. Including the threads on HA which only use the Tsarnaev brothers first names.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I’ll wait for this story to develop at while longer.
The Ricin letter story comes to mind.

diogenes on May 1, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Smacked a nerve there, didn’t I.

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Everyone seems to be.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Fox is reporting this nice young college students went to the bombers’ apartment and took computers and other things and attempted to “dump” this stuff…

What caring and diligent young friends..!

d1carter on May 1, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Are you also 100 percent against Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer jumping the gun calling them tax day terrorists and tea-partiers?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM

As did Allahpundit, I’m sure they included these possibilities speculatively among many others within the first few hours of reporting.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM

If they are Muslims committed to the jihad. Yes the could actually be that stupid.

Hera on May 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Are you also 100 percent against Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer jumping the gun calling them tax day terrorists and tea-partiers?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:01 PM
As did Allahpundit, I’m sure they included these possibilities speculatively among many others within the first few hours of reporting.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM

You might have missed the question in that question.

Are you also 100 percent against Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer jumping the gun calling them tax day terrorists and tea-partiers?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Smacked a nerve there, didn’t I.

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

How so?
You engaged me and I replied.
You know how this all works…right?

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM

As I said before…I trust LEA here to be thorough and look at every possibility. And also to be more capable of understanding what some facts might and might not mean.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM

This would be the same LEA that ignored warnings from Russia and Saudia Arabia? The same LEA that slashed the budget for preventing domestic IEDs? The same LEA that has been did a fine imitation of the Keystone Kops in the five days from the bombing to capturing the younger terrorist.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Sure.
And just how much are you not one?

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

I’m a libertarian and registered Independent. I was against the Iraq war from DAY ONE (for reasons other than yours, I’m sure). I was against the Afghan ground war from DAY ONE (for reasons other than yours, I’m sure).

I opposed Bush’s treasonous bailouts, crony capitalism, appointments like Paulson and Bernanke, and asinine bans (like the light bulb).

I’ve never supported Bush’s NCLB, Medicare Part D, home ownership subsidies, farm subsidies, business subsidies, stimulus, partnership programmes, ‘investments,’ his food stamp expansion, softening of work requirements for welfare, etc.

I am a rabid supporter of civil liberties…always. As such, I am opposed to the Patriot Act, the TSA, government data storage of personal data and intrusive physical searches, droning American citizens, licence scanners, EZ Pass/cell/auto/etc tracking by government, and government’s involvement in marriage, prostitution, drugs, and other decisions that should be left to consenting adults.

I’m an atheist so that would make me a black swan, if I were what I’m not.

I also discourage you from making the mistake of labeling me as a “moderate” Republican in the vein of Susan Collins. I disagree with them, as much as I did with Bush.

I am a libertarian. I agree with the left on many issues, but I also agree with the right on many other issues. I am consistent, which means that I do not support any party when it is wrong, is hypocritical, or makes excuses for its own bad behaviour.

Now, run along and find posts of mine that excuse Bush’s spending, expansion of government or his foreign policy. Since I am not suicidal, I will refrain from holding my breath while you are at it.

Resist We Much on May 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Are those Amish Names?

reddevil on May 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Anyone else hear that squealing noise?

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

You might have missed the question in that question.

Are you also 100 percent against Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer jumping the gun calling them tax day terrorists and tea-partiers?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Non-answers or lies. Every time.

VegasRick on May 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Fox is reporting this nice young college students went to the bombers’ apartment and took computers and other things and attempted to “dump” this stuff…

What caring and diligent young friends..!

d1carter on May 1, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Well it can’t possibly be abetting terror if they are nice young college students, right?

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

reddevil on May 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Nope. Southern Baptist.

kingsjester on May 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Oh, they’re suspected of disposing materials for the brothers?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Lone Wolf(pack)

ProfShadow on May 1, 2013 at 12:31 PM

I’m trying to see if any students are talking about it on twitter, but haven’t found anything. Can’t believe they aren’t all gabbing.

Blake on May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM

So how many of them voted for Congressman Markey (D) yesterday?

sentinelrules on May 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Anyone else hear that squealing noise?

CurtZHP on May 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

I do. And your comment did strike a nerve. It hasn’t made a coherent comment since …

Oh wait a minute.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Are you also 100 percent against Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer jumping the gun calling them tax day terrorists and tea-partiers?

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM

If either said the Tea Party was to blame here…or that they knew what motivated the attack…yes…100%.
But if your gripe is that they were considering in the moment the whole April date, tax day, Patriots Day, etc. angle possibility- well again, you’d have to be equally critical of Allahpundit.
I give all 3 a pass here.
(Though I didn’t/don’t generally listen to Matthews/MSNBC.)
Your free to attack all 3 for their initial coverage.

verbaluce on May 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

LSM – “Hey, you can’t fault these young kids for trying to help a brother out” /

rsherwd65 on May 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM


According to WBZ-TV’s Karen Anderson, their names are Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev. Both are originally from Kazakhstan and attened the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

The third suspect, according to CBS News, is an American citizen and he will be charged with making false statements.

WBZ-TV should have named the American citizen too. For one thing, is he a native-born American or an American like Dzhokhar Tsarnaev? In any case, I’m willing to bet he isn’t a Lutheran.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM

OT:

BREAKING NEWS: White House distracts from these arrests, announces that Liberace was Gay.

sentinelrules on May 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM

sentinelrules on May 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Second good laugh of the day off these threads! That is hilarious!

rsherwd65 on May 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Lone Wolf(pack)

ProfShadow on May 1, 2013 at 12:31 PM

These lone wolves are quickly qualifying for group discounts.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM

HAVE THEY BEEN MARANDIZED?

Or did Eric Holder drop by personally to say “STFU!”

GarandFan on May 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Non-answers or lies. Every time.

VegasRick on May 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Oh, I know. It has to be careful though. When it does start really banging away on the ole keyboard and opening up like it does with RWM, it literally gets it’s ass handed to it every single time.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM

“Hey, you can’t fault these young kids for trying to help a brother out” /

rsherwd65 on May 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

And Charles Whitman was just a misguided college student.

Happy Nomad on May 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

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