Rubio: Let’s face it, my immigration bill probably can’t pass the House

posted at 8:41 pm on April 30, 2013 by Allahpundit

Raul Labrador’s been saying this for months, that any bill with a “special” path to citizenship for illegals is DOA in the House, but I’m still surprised to hear Rubio say it. You don’t think the GOP leadership can find 30 or so panicky Republican reps to vote with a unified Democratic caucus in the House to rubber-stamp the Gang of Eight bill, if only in the name of “getting immigration off the table” and preventing the media from writing any more pieces like this? If he’s pessimistic about its chances, he must have reason to believe that Boehner won’t violate the Hastert Rule to try to pass this thing. Finally, some good news for border hawks.

“The bill that’s in place right now probably can’t pass the House,” Rubio told Mike Gallagher, a nationally syndicated talk show host. “It will have to be adjusted, because people are very suspicious about the willingness of the government to enforce the laws now.”

He continued: “That is a very legitimate suspicion, it’s one that I share, and if there’s anything we can do to make [the bill] even tighter … that’s exactly what we should be working on.”

The Florida Republican called the Gang of Eight bill a “starting point” and urged opponents to proposes changes to the bill, not try to kill it altogether.

Matt Lewis also picked up on Rubio’s pleading to “fix” the bill, not abandon it altogether. The whole point of trying to rush the Gang of Eight bill through the Senate, though, is that it won’t be “fixed” if people start tinkering with it on the floor. It’ll fall apart, just as Lindsey Graham warned. That’s why Pat Leahy was willing to grant only two token hearings before letting the Judiciary Committee tackle it. The fact that Rubio’s now resorting to a “fix, don’t kill” talking point — and it’s not just Rubio — makes me think the bill’s suddenly in more trouble than we thought. (Thank Bob Goodlatte for that, I guess.) I wonder if headlines like this are starting to weigh on him. Mark Krikorian asks a good question too:

If you’re Mark Pryor or Mary Landrieu, why would you vote yes on an amnesty that’s going to annoy conservative voters if it won’t even end up becoming law?

As for the House plan:

The House immigration working group has tentatively settled on a plan that would require illegal immigrants to appear in federal court and plead guilty to breaking U.S. immigration law. Illegal immigrants would be required to complete this step before embarking on a conditional pathway to citizenship that would take at least a decade. In fact, illegal immigrants would essentially be granted legal status when a federal judge sentences them to “probation” for illegally crossing the border.

“The legal process in the House bill is stiffer to emphasize that the law was broken, and to [recognize] the need to uphold the rule of law,” said a Republican congressional aide familiar with the House immigration working group’s negotiations.

An undocumented immigrant’s probation sentence would likely come with certain conditions and run about five years, and then be renewed for another five years to cover the assumed 10-year path-to-citizenship timetable. The GOP congressional aide described the process as similar to how judges handle small drug crimes, in which offenders are sentenced to probation, rather than jail, because it forces them to acknowledge that they broke the law but saves taxpayers the expense of incarceration.

So the House plan adds an element of shame for people who broke the law but doesn’t add much to make the citizenship path longer? The Gang of Eight’s bill also requires a 10-year waiting period, then five years of permanent residency before being able to apply for citizenship. All you’re gaining here really is a show of criminality, which may placate some border hawks but is counterproductive if the big political goal is to win some Latinos over. (Imagine what the Democratic messaging machine will do with the requirement of pleading out in court.) Maybe I’ve misread Rubio, then. He’s not especially troubled, perhaps, that his bill won’t pass the House. They’ll get to the same basic result, they’ll just dress it up differently to make it more superficially draconian. In fact, it’s arguably in the interest of immigration reform for Rubio to talk up the House bill as being somehow tougher than his own, just as it was in the interest of immigration reform for Obama to float his own bill that’s superficially weaker than the Gang of Eight’s in order to make the GOE bill seem tougher by comparison. In both cases, you’re giving conservatives rhetorical cover to vote for a bill that’s much less conservative than it should be.

Exit question via Byron York: Are we sure there isn’t going to be another huge wave of illegal immigration in the future? According to Pew, more than one-third of Mexicans polled recently say they’d like to move to the U.S. Of that number, 15 percent say they’d do so if they were authorized to do it; the other 20 percent say they’re interested in doing it even without authorization. Go play with Nate Silver’s new electoral toy to see what that might mean for the presidential election of 2028.


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Raul Labrador’s been saying this for months,

I recognized that name :)

Electrongod on April 30, 2013 at 8:42 PM

yay!

crrr6 on April 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

I’m sorry this OT, AP, but PLEASE STOP the pop up ads on every page or submission. I’ve had dozens of them open on my desktop and I’ve barely been on HA today.

That said, Rubio never intended it to pass the House. He was just kissing up to Hispanic voters.

John the Libertarian on April 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

What a joke. The democrats will organize stadium festivities for the admitting to breaking the law. They will have voter registration forms on each seat.

Is there no common sense at all left in DC?

aniptofar on April 30, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Enforce our existing immigration laws, before you inflict any new immigration laws on our country, Senator Rubio.

wren on April 30, 2013 at 8:46 PM

I guess that means Rubio has to fight for Democrat House majority in 2014…

Valkyriepundit on April 30, 2013 at 8:48 PM

In fact, it’s arguably in the interest of immigration reform for Rubio to talk up the House bill as being somehow tougher than his own, just as it was in the interest of immigration reform for Obama to float his own bill that’s superficially weaker than the Gang of Eight’s in order to make the GOE bill seem tougher by comparison. In both cases, you’re giving conservatives rhetorical cover to vote for a bill that’s much less conservative than it should be.

So it’s all Kabuki by the GOP establishment to fool the anti-amnesty rubes.

Wethal on April 30, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Don’t underestimate Boehner’s potential for treachery. This absolutely could pass the house with most/all of the dems and Boehner’s crowd.

bofh on April 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Just finished reading the not-so-good House version.

How about this: plan to build the fence with intrusion detection. If and only if the the fence is 100% complete, illegals who can prove they were here before 2013 can remain and work on their pathway to citizenship. Tnat is more than fair and generous on our part.

crrr6 on April 30, 2013 at 8:54 PM

You cant fix this bill, because it heads the wrong direction. We need less legal immigration and an end to tolerance for illegal immigration. Closing loopholes like birthright citizenship should be one of the top priorities.

Schumer-Rubio doesnt even come close to any of this. Kill it and kill it now!

Valkyriepundit on April 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM

If Marco Stoogio had a shred of honor, he would resign.
He is done

james23 on April 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

The House immigration working group has tentatively settled on a plan that would require illegal immigrants to appear in federal court and plead guilty to breaking U.S. immigration law.

Yeah. That will happen.

davidk on April 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Don’t underestimate Boehner’s potential for treachery. This absolutely could pass the house with most/all of the dems and Boehner’s crowd.

bofh on April 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

If Boehner violates the Hastert rule and allows this to pass with only a handful of Republicans voting for it, he’ll have a revolt on his hands. And I don’t just mean within his own caucus.

Doughboy on April 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Wow the Rube is seeing the light, color me surprised. What a clown he has been with this dog and pony show. I wonder if he knows he has lost so much support from conservatives that any future he once had is now gone and most likely gone for good.

D-fusit on April 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Gee, ya think?

Charlemagne on April 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

How can the republican party be so hell bent on suicide. any law that eventually makes illegal aliens voters most definitely means electoral defeat in national elections in perpetuity. Here’s the gun, insert in mouth…it’ll be good for you because people will LIKE you now.

phillysfinest on April 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Funny how that glass-of-water chug looks completely different to me now.

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM

And BTW. Give it up Rubio. It’s over.

The GOPe promised you the nomination, but behind the scenes, a conservative candidate is being vetted and strategy developed for 2016.

You own this lefty albatross.

davidk on April 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM

How about this: Sentry guns covering every square foot of the border accompanied by giant signs which say “We are a nation of laws. Do not try to break our laws by illegally crossing our border. Contact the U.S. Embassy in your home country and follow legal procedure for entry to our country. Have a nice day.”

Bishop on April 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Why do people believe Rubio is a Conservative? What, because he said he was? The Obumbler said he was a US Citizen and the Lie Detector and fake birth certificate determined that was a lie. The Obumbler wouldn’t make it past Maury Povich!

Rubio is trying to sneak full Amnesty by the American people (Actual, Legal Americans) and allow the DHS to take charge of the border they already refuse to secure and we are suppose to listen to him…why? People are just stupid and we are in for a horrible wake up call.

Tbone McGraw on April 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Kill the bill.

Here’s why : Jeff Sessions revealed that Amnesty bill grants immediate access to welfare

and this Todays Gang of Eight Fraud.. the FENCE

And then there are the 400 EXCEPTIONS, WAIVERS, and EXCLUSIONS contained in the bill.

There is a long list, in fact, of why this bill needs to be retired.

thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

How about this: Sentry guns covering every square foot of the border accompanied by giant signs which say “We are a nation of laws. Do not try to break our laws by illegally crossing our border. Contact the U.S. Embassy in your home country and follow legal procedure for entry to our country. Have a nice day.”

Bishop on April 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Never heard anything so blatantly racist in my life.

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Are we sure there isn’t going to be another huge wave of illegal immigration in the future?

Er… duh!

Ukiah on April 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM

because people are very suspicious about the willingness of the government to enforce the laws now.” — Sooper-geenyus worm, Marco Rubio

The treasonous little worm’s (that’s for John the Librarian) bill is SPECIFICALLY designed to NOT enforce the laws now and to render any concept of law (or sovereignty) moot in the future.

Rubio needs to stand trial for treason because that is exactly what his bill is. And he needs to go back and do 6th grade over again since he hasn’t progressed past that educational level. What a friggin worm. And he’s never done anything in his pathetic life but leech off of the citizenry he is in all-out assault against, now, by ensconcing himself in government – the only sorts of jobs a talentless POS like Rubio can get.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 30, 2013 at 9:09 PM

And BTW. Give it up Rubio. It’s over.

The GOPe promised you the nomination, but behind the scenes, a conservative candidate is being vetted and strategy developed for 2016.

You own this lefty albatross.

davidk on April 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM

After all his talk on this bill I am so sick of Rubio and will never trust him again, he’s forever tainted in my eyes. The guy has proven to be either a complete rube or so twisted on this issue that he can never be entrusted to hold higher office. In fact, I’d kinda like him to be primaried first chance that comes up, he is no conservative.

Ukiah on April 30, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Rubio goes on NPR and tries to convince conservatives he hasn’t been duped

Rubio hasn’t been duped. He’s deliberately embraced this legislation and in so doing has embraced erosion of the rule of law.

thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 9:09 PM

How about instead of using drones on her own citizens, the Lyin kING, Senate Scum and congress critters spend that money to patrol the borders with a huge “flock” of drones from sea to sea!

ConcealedKerry on April 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Immigration bill grants amnesty to employers and no penalty for use of fraudulent ID’s.

Fraudulent ID’s. Identity theft. A felony offense.

thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Kill the bi-i-i-l, kill the bi-i-i-ll, kill the bi-i-illl.

You’re done Rubio and we can actually thank Schumer for exposing you for the gullible and/or fraud that you are. Now we can focus on the remaining few conservatives for 2016.

AH_C on April 30, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Is there no common sense at all left in DC?

aniptofar on April 30, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Do you really need to ask?

banzaibob on April 30, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Immigration bill to bring in at least 33 million

All hitting local and state welfare systems at the same time, and some federal welfare programs as well.

thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Never heard anything so blatantly racist in my life.

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Agreed.

I will amend: Have concerned and non-biased sentry guns covering every square foot of the border.

Bishop on April 30, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Funny how that glass-of-water chug looks completely different to me now.

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM

From hero to zero.

davidk on April 30, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Rubio has “grown” after he got to DC. Meaning, he is just another go along to get along hack.

Quartermaster on April 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

If Boehner violates the Hastert rule and allows this to pass with only a handful of Republicans voting for it, he’ll have a revolt on his hands. And I don’t just mean within his own caucus.

Doughboy on April 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

First of all, if it passes in the house, it’s game-over. So whatever “revolt” you think will happen won’t mean squat.

Plus, Boehner has already demonstrated that he doesn’t give a rat’s azz about the Hastert Rule.

Finally, where do you think all of this outrage will come from, since so far it’s been MIA through Fast&Furious, Benghazi, and most recently, marshall law in Boston, among other things?

bofh on April 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

And Rubio hands Obama a mid-term elections present where he can demonize the evil republican held house….idiot and amateur.

trs on April 30, 2013 at 9:19 PM

GAYS GUNS AMNESTY !

The three pillars of the Progressive goal of destroying this country….and the last best hope for individual liberty on the earth.

And Rubio and his gang are right at the heart of it.

TRAITOR!!!

PappyD61 on April 30, 2013 at 9:20 PM

“The bill that’s in place right now probably can’t pass the House,”

THANK GOD!

GarandFan on April 30, 2013 at 9:20 PM

The right dumps people way too fast. Take him to the shed and move on. Don’t get rid of the guy…man.

tomas on April 30, 2013 at 9:21 PM

And how about that poll this week that showed 25% of THE ENTIRE FREAKING COUNTRY OF MEXICO was willing to consider crossing the border illegally!!!

This AMNESTY bill could be called THE EMPTY MEXICO ACT OF 2013!!

Traitors!!

PappyD61 on April 30, 2013 at 9:25 PM

He continued: “That is a very legitimate suspicion, it’s one that I share, and if there’s anything we can do to make [the bill] even tighter … that’s exactly what we should be working on.”

Maybe the enforcement part—–severely lacking since at least 19gd70, should have been worried about first you moron. Or is that too nice of me?

arnold ziffel on April 30, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Don’t get rid of the guy…man.

tomas on April 30, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Rubio is a treasonous little worm. There is nothing of value in having anything to do with this POS traitor. He should be donning an orange jumpsuit and put to hard labor.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 30, 2013 at 9:28 PM

If there is any urgency to reform something, it should be Welfare! I am so sick of hearing about how we MUST reform immigration NOW. More immigrants are coming here for our welfare than for our economy than ever before…now it comes out that the Boston bombers have received $100k (and they are obviously able-bodied). I’ll never support any immigration reform until we get welfare reform.

Jackalope on April 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM

If you’re Mark Pryor or Mary Landrieu, why would you vote yes on an amnesty that’s going to annoy conservative voters if it won’t even end up becoming law?

Looking at this specifically, I will say that Landrieu has clearly decided pretending she’s a moderate is a lost cause. All year she’s been jumping fully in lockstep with the hard left apparently hoping that will keep any other liberals out of Louisiana’s jungle primary. She’s survived before, so perhaps her head has gotten too inflated. I doubt it’s a winning strategy for 2014, but as far as getting a vote for the next leftist turd coming down the line, I expect she won’t be too hard to entice.

Pryor on the other hand is being rapidly revealed to have no political instinct whatsoever. A recent poll showed 25% of his constituents still don’t even know who he is. He’s survived so far by being invisible and when thrown in front of the spotlight like this, he panics, tries to play the middle of the road, and resultingly gets run over by both sides.

Gingotts on April 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM

concerned and non-biased sentry guns

Bishop on April 30, 2013 at 9:15 PM

rotf

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Rubio has been done for quite while now. Neither need nor want him.

Mirimichi on April 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Funny how that glass-of-water chug looks completely different to me now.

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Same here. Looks like he’s choking on that bottle.

CTSherman on April 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Bishop- those aren’t the signs we see. The ones we see warn US out of the area. Usually they’re pretty shot up. Federal signage.

I like your signs better.

I doubt it’s U.S.citizens shooting up the signs. We can’t afford to waste the ammo.

wolly4321 on April 30, 2013 at 9:34 PM

The main goal of ANY viable immigration reform is to stop the oft-repeated cycle of quasi-amnesty, followed by another, LARGER wave of illegal immigrants (and yes, that IS the term; not pleasant, but that’s what they are, especially to LEGAL immigrants. It doesn’t make them any less human, nor is reflective of any specific ethnicity; it is a LEGAL status,)

Two major issues exist that will assure a repeat; with NO acceptable solutions seriously proposed by anyone in authority.

The first is that NO ONE has proposed serious legislation (as opposed to legislation to be proposed- and voted down) to significantly reduce the DRAW for these immigrants- jobs that essentially have a requirement that the holder of the job BE ILLEGAL. Avoiding insurance, taxes, safety and labor regulations that add substantially to the cost of an employee. The employee ALSO benefits, with ‘underground income’ not being taxed nor recorded (allowing family members to qualify for government benefits due to lack of income). Every plan to legalize current illegal immigrants will very likely cost these many of these newly legalized residents their jobs, because they no longer fit the basic requirement. Any attempt to impede these jobs instantly brings vehement opposition from very powerful interests in agricultural and construction businesses; semi-slave labor keeps things cheap.

The second major issue is unresolvable with putting a big crimp in the first. That second issue is real, INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIABLE, MEASURABLE border security. No border is absolutely secure (even the old Berlin wall, with all the lethality they maintained). But every proposed measurement of improved border security is to be measured AND determined by people who are completely biased in their motivation; no ‘independence’ involved. For example, the Rubio plan has a 90% of the seen are captured by the Border Patrol; the administration could simply have them not look!

Without these two aspects firmly in place, there is no solution; just another cycle.

michaelo on April 30, 2013 at 9:37 PM

How about this: Sentry guns covering every square foot of the border accompanied by giant signs which say “We are a nation of laws. Do not try to break our laws by illegally crossing our border. Contact the U.S. Embassy in your home country and follow legal procedure for entry to our country. Have a nice day.”

Bishop on April 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Never heard anything so blatantly racist in my life.

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Qué tal esto: Centinelas cubren cada centímetro cuadrado de la frontera acompañado de signos gigantes que dicen “Somos una nación de leyes. No trate de romper nuestras leyes por cruzar ilegalmente la frontera. Póngase en contacto con la Embajada de EE.UU. en su país de origen y seguir el procedimiento legal para la entrada a nuestro país. Que tengas un buen día “.

Obispo el 30 de abril de 2013 a las 21:03

That’s more friendly.

lynncgb on April 30, 2013 at 9:37 PM

So, after Rubio’s treasonous AMNESTY plan fails, what obama/liberal agenda item will he latch onto next? Will Rubio go gay? Will he jump on the pro-Gosnell bandwagon? Will he discover profit in global warming?

Rubio is a sad little opportunist – grasping at straws, as he watches his failed political career circling the drain. It’s time for Rubio to move on, and find something that he’s good at – in the private sector.

Pork-Chop on April 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Glad to see Rubio is starting to see the problems with the bill..:)

Dire Straits on April 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM

by another, LARGER wave of illegal immigrants (and yes, that IS the term;

No, that is not the term. They are illegal aliens. They are not immigrants. If one is pushed to that sort of verbiage, then they can be described as migrants, but they are not “immigrants”. This fact was made painfully clear when McShame was at the border and two aliens climbed over the fence. The stories described them as “illegal immigrants” but they were not “immigrants”. They had just climbed a fence and had been on our territory for all of thirty seconds. If thirty seconds on American soil makes someone an immigrant, then every single person who flies in on a tourist visa is an “immigrant”, too.

They are illegal aliens. Period. They are not immigrants of any sort, no matter how long they force themselves on us. Illegal aliens. That’s all.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

If it did pass the House that would be the absolute end for our party..sadly he’s either just realizing this now or a bigger two faced politician than we realized.

It’s never been so obvious how out of touch and corrupt the GOP leadership has become.

That it not only remains intact after the 2012 elections but comes back with a vengeance against true conservatives causes almost sickens me.

Give me a viable option..cripple the corrupt two party system – only then will these clowns be out of my life for good..and I won’t be alone with my votes.

celt on April 30, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Marco would do himself a whole lot of good if turned his energies to securing the border and enforcing current immigration laws…

… Anything else is wasted energy.

Seven Percent Solution on April 30, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Let’s face it Rubio, you are a no good anti-American lying bastard – an Obama MiniMe.

VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 9:50 PM

It’s too bad American politicians don’t take border integrity as seriously as their Mexican counterparts do…Hypocrisy: Mexico deported dozens of ‘migrant’ children this month

cynccook on April 30, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Today we must all be aware that political expediency and latino ethnicity takes precedence over rule of law and constitutional procedure. However you say – WTF ! – what does this mean… in relation to the tabulation whereby we must once again realize that the great reconquesta story is now being rehearsed before our very eyes, in the rise of Marco Rubio… indicating that only a two-faced … I mean a bi-faced … I mean a bi-polar … I mean a bi-lingual hombre can receive…the award for reconquesta, unlike Kenyan Hussein Obama whose reconquesta plans don’t drink water.

Amigos – comrades – muchachos – friends, we are gathered here as an edifice of the great glory that is now vanishing and the intuitive feeling, based on the assumption as Mencken once said, “He who underestimates the American public will never go broke.” This is merely a small indication to behold and to perceive that which has gone way into the behind and to that which might project .. I mean go forward … out of the mouth … i mean .. the future…we’ve got to rip up the constitution so we can rip down those outdated borders! This is the main deterrent upon which we have gathered our strength and all the others who say, “What the hell did that get?” – We don’t know.

And as Miller once said in one of his great novels- what did he … that language is only necessary when bilingual communication is endangered. And you sit there bewildered, and Pinter who went further said “It is not the lack of communication, but fear of communication.” That’s what the damn thing is that we fear – communication – especially all the Spanish communication that’s even on a box of Wheaties now. Damn it! But we have no paranoia, and through all this Senator McCain has attained, and has created for himself serenity, and it is only his insanity that has kept him alive in his senility.

Senors y Senoritas, Ladies and Gentlemen. The time will come when a first world America will outlive its usefulness. Marx, either Groucho or Karl, I can’t remember which, maybe it was both or maybe it was Harpo, once said that America is the opiate of the people. I say that when America outlives its usefulness and becomes a majority latino nation , then opium…will be the opiate…Ahh that’s not a bad idea… we are going to need that badly especially when the booze runs out …

And the completely unbiased and bi-partisan panel, has determined to give the grand prize to Marco Rubio for his EARNESTY’S RAINBOW. Now EARNESTY’S RAINBOW is a token of this man’s genius…he told me so himself and repeatedly …that he could change perceptions by calling his plan for knocking down those pesky borders EARNESTY …in other words, he could have been more specific, but rather than allude to an articulation of the mundane, he has come to the conclusion that brevity is the importance of our nation’s shallow first world existence. God damn!

Marco Rubio’s . EARNESTY’S RAINBOW – is a small contribution to a certain degree, since there are over seven billion people in the world today. 450 of them … million live in the United States and Mexico which is a very, very small amount compared to those who will be miserable and dying elsewhere…Well, I say that you will be on the road to new horizons, for we who live in a society where citizenship is a commodity and a politician can become a TV personality, it’s not easy to conform if you have any morality…I, I, I said that myself many years ago…

But I do want to thank la Raza…I mean the RNC … I mean the DNC and it’s subsidiary the RNC, the organization for the $1,000 in affirmative action latino scholarships they’ve given out…tonight they took in over $4,000,000, but they do have expenses for their consultants you know, and I think that I have another appointment. I would like to stay here, but for the sake of brevity I, I must leave. I do want to thank you, and I want to thank Marco Rubio – acting el Presidenta of la Raza Mexiamerica and also Mr. Obama – acting Pharaoh and Drone Commander of the World – and also I want to thank Professor Irwin Corey and thank you. …

RasThavas on April 30, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Glad to see Rubio is starting to see the problems with the bill..:)

Dire Straits on April 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Are you really going to try to yank his bacon out of the fire? :)

I can’t remember . . . I think you were hoping high for him in particular . . . Lots of people were. But really? We should maybe make a path for him out after this debacle? :)

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Marco would do himself a whole lot of good if turned his energies to securing the border and enforcing current immigration laws…

… Anything else is wasted energy.

Seven Percent Solution on April 30, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Too late as we now know he is a lying bastard.

VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 9:56 PM

I’ve got to say that after spending a couple of weeks cooped up with Schumer and Juan McCain anyone would have a tinge of the doo-doo smell on them.

I think Rubio walked into that scenario with the bestest Mr. Smith ideals, and got taken to the wood shed by two old coots.

BTW, has anyone noticed how both of the Virginia saviors are now implicated in accepting gratuities from the same guy? And lo and behold, the VA AG forgot to claim them on his financial disclosure forms for several years.

I’m tellin’ ya, we’re all f**ked. There are no good guys. Just politicians that haven’t been caught yet.

BobMbx on April 30, 2013 at 9:57 PM

I’ve been saying this for quite a while. If the red state democrats bail then immigration reform is dead. That is how the last amnesty bill crashed and burned. What makes me nervous are the retirements because then senators like Baucus can vote how they really feel which doesn’t give me much confidence they would reject this bill.

Wigglesworth on April 30, 2013 at 9:59 PM

It’s time for Rubio to move on, and find something that he’s good at – in the private sector.

Pork-Chop on April 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM

I suggest that he get a wagon and travel the Southwest selling hair tonic.

VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Like I said from day one….Kabuki theater.

Everyone was freaking out…”10 gazillion illegals will be democrat voters”.

Congress can’t even pass budgets that last more than a few months and does anyone actually think a complex immigration bill will pass? We have a president that spends his entire time doing everything except work with congress and when he does he blows things up and ticks everyone off, including people in his own party. Plus it was never in anyone interest to ever pass a thing. It was meant to make people look like they were doing something so in 2016, or in Obama’s case now, they can claim they tried but someone else blew it up.

It is political World War I…trench warfare and the battle lines won’t change for at least two if not four more years.

William Eaton on April 30, 2013 at 10:02 PM

I think Rubio walked into that scenario with the bestest Mr. Smith ideals, and got taken to the wood shed by two old coots.

BobMbx on April 30, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Just like Obama went into politics with the ‘bestest’ Mr. Smith ideals and got taken in by Axelrod and Emanuel.

VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 10:04 PM

A scary thought is if this bill passes the Senate then the Congressional Black Caucus might be our only hope to kill the bill.

Wigglesworth on April 30, 2013 at 10:07 PM

I’m tellin’ ya, we’re all f**ked. There are no good guys. Just politicians that haven’t been caught yet.

BobMbx on April 30, 2013 at 9:57 PM

lol, bad news Bob. Obviously related to apprehensive arnold. Or maybe fkn furious arnold.

arnold ziffel on April 30, 2013 at 10:08 PM

When is Mark Levin, who apparently thinks he is Rubio’s mom, going to finally denounce him?

VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Really disappointed in how Rush is constantly trying to make excuses for the guy. “Yeah he’s lying through his teeth to promote a bill that will destroy the country and the republican party but… that’s not why he’s supporting the bill.” Stupid stupid stupid!

Ukiah on April 30, 2013 at 10:16 PM

If he’s pessimistic about its chances, he must have reason to believe that Boehner won’t violate the Hastert Rule to try to pass this thing. Finally, some good news for border hawks.

If he’s pessimistic about his chances, he should stop *now*. All he’s going to do by helping the Senate pass it, is help the Dems/media write the bullsqueeze narrative about how racist and bigoted and uncaring and nativistic the GOP are – right in time for 2014.

That’s the *point* for the Dems, you rube-io – they *want* it to pass the Senate and fail in the House – and you’re *helping* them, nitwit.

Midas on April 30, 2013 at 10:17 PM

With both Limbaugh and Levin it’s like someone denouncing communism but saying Stalin is a good guy. Somehow they don’t even seem to realize this, or maybe they think their listeners are completely stupid.

VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Yes I am trying..:)

PS..There is time to get out and I think Rubio sees that..:)

Dire Straits on April 30, 2013 at 10:22 PM

When is Mark Levin, who apparently thinks he is Rubio’s mom, going to finally denounce him?

VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 10:10 PM

On his radio show today, Mark Levin said essentially that he likes Marco Rubio, but the immigration bill is a bad bill that he would never support.

wren on April 30, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Rubio goes on NPR and tries to convince conservatives he hasn’t been duped

Rubio hasn’t been duped. He’s deliberately embraced this legislation and in so doing has embraced erosion of the rule of law.

thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Did any conservative hear him?

slickwillie2001 on April 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

RasThavas on April 30, 2013 at 9:52 PM

I wanted to tell you how very much I enjoy these posts. :)

They are remarkable and I often send them to my friends and colleagues, too, who relate that they also enjoy them very much… well, my friends do… only some of the colleagues do… but the others are progressives so we expect that kind of criticism from them and delight in it as an affirmation that we are, indeed, on the right track and hitting all the right notes. :)

thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

slickwillie2001 on April 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I don’t know… I only read the article! LOL! I don’t listen to NPR.

That’s sort of like the tree falling in the forest, isn’t it? :)

However, I think he’s very much about the company he keeps, and I wanted people to be aware of the company he’s seeking out these days to try and garner support for his egregious bill.

thatsafactjack on April 30, 2013 at 10:32 PM

I don’t think Rubio’s this naive. When this doesn’t pass he gets to look bipartisan for dumb-a$$ moderates, look sympathetic to Hispanics(since it was indeed amnesty), and be the GOP establishment poster boy for proposing something so antithetical to the base(whom they despise). It’s triangulation to the Nth degree.

Dongemaharu on April 30, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Rubio: Let’s face it, my immigration bill probably can’t pass the House

So Rubio dirtied himself buddying up with Chuck Schumer and the Democrats and weakened himself politically for no reason?

Before this, I’d have happily voted for Rubio, it’s good to see how naive and/or stupid he is before the 2016 elections.

RJL on April 30, 2013 at 10:34 PM

So what? The House can pass their own bill if they choose to do so, then both bills go to committee and a blended bill is put up for a vote in both chambers. That’s how bills are passed. The House is not the Senate’s slave.

SouthernGent on April 30, 2013 at 10:41 PM

On his radio show today, Mark Levin said essentially that he likes Marco Rubio, but the immigration bill is a bad bill that he would never support.

wren on April 30, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Then Levin is screwed up in the head. I could see this if amnesty was some minor matter, but it’s not. He might as well say that bombing Boston was a bad thing but he likes the bombers.

VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Rubio….Dead Man Walking….make way for the Dead Man Walking

The promise made in 1986….no more illegals. Now 11 million more.

Send them packing.

NO AMNESTY….NO GREEN CARDS….NO CITIZENSHIP….NO CITIZEN FUNDED BENEFITS

Republicans allow this crap sammich, they may as well close up shop. They’ll never get another conservative vote.

III/0317

dirtengineer on April 30, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Then Levin is screwed up in the head. I could see this if amnesty was some minor matter, but it’s not. He might as well say that bombing Boston was a bad thing but he likes the bombers.

VorDaj on April 30, 2013 at 10:55 PM

lol, You mean like they did a bad thing but they are not bad boys?

arnold ziffel on April 30, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Glad to hear this legalize first and forget border security bill will probably fail.

I’m wondering how then Obama will punish us – order the army to tear down all the border fences? Allow unlimited immigration for members of his beloved Muslim Brotherhood? For sure he’s not going to do much to enforce current immigration laws, oath of office or no. I think he’ll apply some hurt somehow.

Chessplayer on April 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Glad to hear this legalize first and forget border security bill will probably fail.

I’m wondering how then Obama will punish us – order the army to tear down all the border fences? Allow unlimited immigration for members of his beloved Muslim Brotherhood? For sure he’s not going to do much to enforce current immigration laws, oath of office or no. I think he’ll apply some hurt somehow.

Chessplayer on April 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Whatever he does is reversible.

The ugly bill democratics are working on is not reversible. Amnesty is not reversible.

slickwillie2001 on April 30, 2013 at 11:46 PM

On his radio show today, Mark Levin said essentially that he likes Marco Rubio, but the immigration bill is a bad bill that he would never support.

wren on April 30, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Nothing we should hold against the guy, huh? Just GOP Senators behaving badly?

lynncgb on April 30, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Good news. Celebrate! The gang of 8 did not count on the Boston bombing and hoped to have a compliant House and Senate to pass their bill-of-goods.

And Rubio is showing some sense now in recognizing the prospects for a bill that offers no security from Islamic Causasians living off the state bent on its destruction.

virgo on May 1, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Illegal alien amnesty (what Rubio and the Dems are pushing) is a disaster and must be stopped.

bluegill on May 1, 2013 at 12:52 AM

In Short:

They Know We’re Lying

profitsbeard on May 1, 2013 at 1:54 AM

My lasting take-away in this sordid betrayal is the spectacular way that Rubio has committed political suicide in full view of the base.

…scratchin’ my head over this.

…certainly didn’t see this coming from the last political season.

The sheer political dunderheadedness revealed by this episode is kind of stunning, don’cha think?

He could have been a potential …not now. His aspirations are DOA.

No conservative is going to give him a glance.

Bad move, kid. Really bad move.

…and if you were paying for the advice, fire that guy, and demand your money back.

davisbr on May 1, 2013 at 3:26 AM

So Rubio dirtied himself buddying up with Chuck Schumer and the Democrats and weakened himself politically for no reason?

Before this, I’d have happily voted for Rubio, it’s good to see how naive and/or stupid he is before the 2016 elections.

RJL

And you know what the sad thing is? By all accounts, Rubio is a likeable, well-spoken, charismatic guy, and he could have used those attributes to explain to Hispanics why amnesty is unfair, and why illegal immigration is wrong. It was a perfect opportunity to use his brownness to sell conservatism, yet what did he do instead? He agreed to be the face of a massive, liberal-driven piece of legislation that will doom the party and the country. That doesn’t happen by mistake.

Like I said from day one….Kabuki theater.

Everyone was freaking out…”10 gazillion illegals will be democrat voters”.

Congress can’t even pass budgets that last more than a few months and does anyone actually think a complex immigration bill will pass?

William Eaton

If everyone wasn’t freaking out, it probably would pass. And probably still will.

xblade on May 1, 2013 at 3:58 AM

Oh, those intransigent Republicans!

ctmom on May 1, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Why does Marco Rubio get a pass from Conservatives? He came from nowhere and beat Charlie Crist, so we have to support this guy forever? He’s been moving left since he got to the Senate.

MPan on May 1, 2013 at 7:22 AM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

I prefer another term, INVADERS!

wolfplus3 on May 1, 2013 at 7:58 AM

Career ender?

Damn right. Rubio is dead to me.

He is a fool.

This thing will explode in 10-13 years, with 30 million people eligible for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security–people who haven’t paid in, and certainly will take out more than they put in. Moreover, Big Sis Nannypants gets to decide herself whether or not the border triggers kick in–the same p.o.s. who says now that the border has never been more secure.

This is a NO-BRAINER. It’s DOA.

mountainaires on May 1, 2013 at 8:31 AM

By all accounts, Rubio is a likeable, well-spoken, charismatic guy…

By all accounts, so is Barack Obama. How’s that workin’ out for ya.

I don’t give a rat’s ass how likeable Rubio is–“articulate” begs to pass my lips–he’s an idiot. He thought he could forge legislation with the likes of Chuck the F*ck Schumer; he needn’t have wasted his time. It was probably ALWAYS ABOUT TAINTING RUBIO.

That’s how they work.

mountainaires on May 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Seems to me that we’re looking at this from the outside and there must be some really high stakes poker being played by Rubio. A lot of what they do in DC is positioning for the next election and the Rs are desperate to try and tamp down some of the Hispanic vote for the dems. They won’t see a wholesale change from R to D but maybe will at least be able to create some disaffection. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Kissmygrits on May 1, 2013 at 8:49 AM

It’s always possible to get political redemption. Rubio could still return on other things. Even Anthony Weiner gets support for a comeback, Charlie Rangel has a reputation unsullied by his own evident corruption, and congress is brimming with the most vile, vicious and venal people on the planet.

Rubio is not done, but he should pick a more defensible issue next time.

virgo on May 1, 2013 at 9:05 AM

There is really a very simple solution to this problem. Enforce the damn law that exists. Get rid of the anchor baby situation. Dumping millions of illegals on our system will destroy us. If you think its hard for people to find work now, just wait. Quit kissing Mexico’s butt. Their immigration policy is draconian compared to ours.

kemojr on May 1, 2013 at 9:38 AM

So we are likely to have a choice between a Senate bill which is little more than a fig leaf over amnesty or a House bill which has a slightly bigger fig leaf? Turn out the lights the party’s over (pun intended).

jnelchef on May 1, 2013 at 9:43 AM

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