Report: Tsarnaev family received $100,000 in welfare benefits

posted at 11:21 am on April 30, 2013 by Allahpundit

A drop in the bucket. Given Judy Clarke’s fee in the Susan Smith case, $100K probably isn’t much more than what you’ll wind up paying Dzhokhar’s lawyers to help him avoid the death penalty. And if they succeed, you’ll be paying for his upkeep for years and years and years after that.

So poisonous are the politics of this that even local Democrats are vowing a full investigation. I thought the preferred “solution” here would be a variation of their response to Gosnell, i.e. what we need is more welfare/clinics so that impoverished people aren’t led down the wrong path.

The Tsarnaev family, including the suspected terrorists and their parents, benefited from more than $100,000 in taxpayer-funded assistance — a bonanza ranging from cash and food stamps to Section 8 housing from 2002 to 2012, the Herald has learned.

“The breadth of the benefits the family was receiving was stunning,” said a person with knowledge of documents handed over to a legislative committee today…

“I can assure members of the public that this committee will actively review every single piece of information we can find because clearly the public has a substantial right to know what benefits, if any, this family or individuals accused of some horrific crimes were receiving,” said state Rep. David Linsky (D-Natick), the committee’s chairman.

The Tsarnaevs are an interesting mix of mundane social pathologies associated with being poor and bigger ideological pathologies that most poor people never harbor. Allegedly, both mama and papa Tsarnaev were shoplifters. Dzhokhar dealt drugs for spending money, some of which may or may not have been put towards bomb manufacture. Tamerlan received welfare up until 2012, the same year he took off to do God knows what in Russia and long after he and mom supposedly had that phone call in 2011 about “jihad.” Instapundit linked this interesting Mickey Kaus piece from 2001 about a terrorism/welfare connection in Europe in which ethnic antagonism causes resentment among immigrants and welfare gives them free time to explore ideology, but I don’t know how much that applies to the Tsarnaevs. Dzhokhar, at least, seemed reasonably well integrated at school; “ethnic antagonism” from the public generally was probably less of a factor for them than for European Muslims because they’re white, although the anecdote in the update here suggests there may be more to it than meets the eye. And further muddying the waters of causation is the apparent fact that Tamerlan was simply a bad seed, especially towards women. What happens when you throw a radical, domineering personality into an already bad mix?

Anyway, we know now how grateful the boys were for America’s helping hand, and mama Tsarnaev’s made her feelings pretty clear. How about dad and the sisters?


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Awesome. My tax dollars at work. (spit)

Battlecruiser-operational on April 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Anyone else want out of the h3ll hole of a country we’ve become?

WordsMatter on April 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

“I can assure members of the public that this committee will actively review every single piece of information we can find because clearly the public has a substantial right to know what benefits, if any, this family or individuals accused of some horrific crimes were receiving,” said state Rep. David Linsky (D-Natick), the committee’s chairman.

Well, I feel assured…how about everyone else?

Seriously though, what can they do? Bill the family because the kids turned rotten? And you can’t really screen people for this sort of thing. It sucks, but I’m sure other killers have received public assistance too. Not much you can do (except for rolling it back completely, and that won’t happen).

changer1701 on April 30, 2013 at 11:26 AM

welfare needs total reforms

Im pissed these slugs sucked money from US and then dare attack it

the mother and father needs to be made to repay

nonpartisan on April 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Well obviously we need to let 33 MILLION more “immigrants” into the country.

GarandFan on April 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

This has nothing to do with immigration reform./s

Wigglesworth on April 30, 2013 at 11:28 AM

how umm, Progressive.

kirkill on April 30, 2013 at 11:29 AM

$100K probably isn’t much more than what you’ll wind up paying Dzhokhar’s lawyers to help him avoid the death penalty.

All Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s defense lawyer should be concerned about is helping his client choose between the electric chair and lethal injection (I doubt that MA would go for the more ethnically-appropriate choice of stoning).

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Anyone else want out of the h3ll hole of a country we’ve become?

WordsMatter on April 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

I’m not looking for an out. I’m looking for the fight to take it back.

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Anyone else want out of the h3ll hole of a country we’ve become?

WordsMatter on April 30, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Maybe Hungary?

” The revised Hungarian constitution, which will take effect on January 1, declares that human life will be protected from the moment of conception.

“Human dignity is inviolable,” the constitution states. “Everyone has the right to life and human dignity; the life of a fetus will be protected from conception.”

“Eugenic practices aimed at selection of persons, making the human body and its parts a source of profit and the reproductive cloning of human beings are prohibited,” the document adds.

The new constitution also states that “Hungary protects the institution of marriage between man and woman, a matrimonial relationship voluntarily established, as well as the family as the basis for the survival of the nation. Hungary supports child-bearing.”

These provisions have earned the condemnation of Amnesty International…

Turning to religion, the constitution declares that

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This right includes freedom to choose and to change religion or belief and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or in private, to manifest or choose not to manifest religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and observance. In Hungary the churches and the State operate separately. Churches are independent in Hungary. The State will cooperate with churches in the pursuit of community objectives. Detailed regulations pertaining to churches will be set forth in a super majority law.

The nation of 10.0 million is 59% Catholic, according to Vatican statistics…”

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=10672

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 11:32 AM

welfare needs total reforms

Im pissed these slugs sucked money from US and then dare attack it

the mother and father needs to be made to repay

nonpartisan on April 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

We already have immigration laws that are supposed to deal with this, but they aren’t enforced. The Gang of Eight immigration bill actually has a hardship waiver for the ‘public charge’ statute so ignoring the law will then be considered following the law if it passes.

Wigglesworth on April 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

The system worked.

RedRedRice on April 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

So poisonous are the politics of this that even local Democrats are vowing a full investigation

Yeah right, and their investigation will be an inch deep with the conclusion being that these douchebags simply slipped through the cracks.

The entire welfare system is a joke and the libs know it, but they need to feed their chattel for the votes on election day.

Bishop on April 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

So poisonous are the politics of this that even local Democrats are vowing a full investigation.

But not one second before this, evidently.

Because they care.

Good Lt on April 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

I believe one of the sisters was also involved in drug dealing. She attacked a guy she was living with, he called the cops, and the cops found large amounts of drugs.

Blake on April 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Dzhokhar, at least, seemed reasonably well integrated at school;

Except he was flunking out. Or maybe they do things differently these days, i.e., how many courses do you get to flunk? I would think they would at least yank any money he was receiving if not kick him out for a year.

Blake on April 30, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Thank God that they didn’t have to do any racist, demeaning drug testing in order to receive those benefits.

parke on April 30, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Wow, that slate link actually has some facts.

Blake on April 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Report: Tsarnaev family received $100,000 in welfare benefits

Well….look on the bright side. At least all those Massachusetts liberals can feel all warm and squishy about themselves for having such a generous welfare program. (Don’t judges us by our results….judge us by our intent!)

olesparkie on April 30, 2013 at 11:44 AM

“I can assure members of the public that this committee will actively review every single piece of information we can find

We’re going to run in the other room with these papers

because clearly the public has a substantial right to know what benefits, if any, this family or individuals accused of some horrific crimes were receiving,” said state Rep. David Linsky (D-Natick), the committee’s chairman.

and come back out later with a carefully crafted point of view we think the American public should adopt.

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Maybe Hungary?

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Maybe the UK?

Shy Guy on April 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

“What difference at this point does it make?”

equanimous on April 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM

What I find most amazing in this is that it’s a Mass Democrat calling for the investigation, talk about burying the lead.

D-fusit on April 30, 2013 at 11:48 AM

This family got $100K, yet Democrats and RINOs still say we need to spend more on these kinds of programs. Plus, how much more in other benefits, like medical and dental care, isn’t counted here? Somehow, I can’t help but believe this figure of $100K is only the bottom-line figure.

Liam on April 30, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Awesome. My tax dollars at work. (spit)

Ah, c’mon. Give ‘em a break. How would we know what would eventually transpire? These poor folk were unwillingly uprooted and forced to flee turmoil in their beloved homeland and were reluctantly transplanted here. It was our duty to fully support them until they got settled , adjusted to and fully embraced our American Way of life, so they could be in a position to pay back in a meaningful way the generosity bestowed upon them by our generous government.

/s

hawkeye54 on April 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM

What about the wife? She was living with them for 3 years maybe more. Did she receive benefits? WIC?

Blake on April 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM

The amnesty bunch that does the jobs no one else will and the millions to follow won’t be getting any government cheese.//

docflash on April 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Where are the two sisters? Who are they and are they also being investigated? Anyone with any links about these sisters? Did they go to the same high school as the brothers?

luckybogey on April 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM

WE WORK FOR THEM.

portlandon on April 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Unemployed. Flying to/from Russia. Driving luxury vehicles (if not ANY vehicles)…

The insanity of the mother is even more pronounced, what with her blaming “America” for her sons’ demise while she and they took so very much from this nation, offered to them from what it sounds like with very little accountability and in abundance.

Lourdes on April 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM

This family got $100K, yet Democrats and RINOs still say we need to spend more on these kinds of programs.

Naturally. Do you think our pols would win this family’s devotion and votes with reasoned and intellectually honest debate on what should be the true role of our government and the personal responsibility expected of our citizens?

/s

hawkeye54 on April 30, 2013 at 12:02 PM

$100K over 11 years would only be $757.5757 per month.
For Section 8 housing in the Boston area? and food assistance? and cash?? for the whole family? (that would include possibly separate funds for the older once he married)

It sounds like the $100K is a very very lowball figure.

What is the real number?

jhnone on April 30, 2013 at 12:03 PM

We could have sent Shelia Jackson Lee on a few junkets with that kind of money.

Flange on April 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM

This family got $100K, yet Democrats and RINOs still say we need to spend more on these kinds of programs. Plus, how much more in other benefits, like medical and dental care, isn’t counted here? Somehow, I can’t help but believe this figure of $100K is only the bottom-line figure.

Liam on April 30, 2013 at 11:49 AM

I read comments all the time in UK sites from British citizens who claim they and/or their aged parents are living in bare circumstances scraping by in old age or in unemployment, illness, after working there and paying taxes their entire lives, while new arrivees (even illegal ones who routinely claim asylum there as they do here in the US but it sounds like it’s a bigger scam problem in the UK).

Here in the US, same thing but all the complaints here are chalked up as political-party efforts to smear the others, etc. (complaints are dismissed too often while not taken seriously).

The reality is that immigrants, including those of the illegal sort, receive a lot of financial and administrative helps at the cost of the citizens that the citizens don’t receive themselves, including small business loans, home mortgages, grants, etc.

Lourdes on April 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM

We could have sent Shelia Jackson Lee on a few junkets with that kind of money.

Meh, we probably still do. Money, or lack thereof, is no object to what our pols believe they must do while in office.

hawkeye54 on April 30, 2013 at 12:09 PM

$100K over 11 years would only be $757.5757 per month.
For Section 8 housing in the Boston area? and food assistance? and cash?? for the whole family? (that would include possibly separate funds for the older once he married)

It sounds like the $100K is a very very lowball figure.

What is the real number?

jhnone on April 30, 2013 at 12:03 PM

I bet the “$100K” figure doesn’t include the housing voucher (Section 8) from HUD…but I agree that it sounds like a low-ball estimate for 11 years of public assistance of a variety they received.

Lourdes on April 30, 2013 at 12:09 PM

It sounds like the $100K is a very very lowball figure.

What is the real number?

Pfft, a drop in the bucket if it means the well being of even one of all our poor and suffering refugee and immigrant families is met. Its worth every penny spent.

/s

hawkeye54 on April 30, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM

BINGO!

I notice these two jackwagons didn’t blow up our money.

ghostwalker1 on April 30, 2013 at 12:12 PM

hawkeye54 on April 30, 2013 at 12:09 PM

I guess it’s the only way to get rid of her for awhile.

Flange on April 30, 2013 at 12:16 PM

you own it Massachusetts; empowering terrorists through welfare.

burserker on April 30, 2013 at 12:17 PM

you own it Massachusetts; empowering terrorists through welfare.

Sadly, it isn’t just Massachusetts. That empowerment exists in many states. Just hasn’t gotten to the point of the same reaction…..yet.

hawkeye54 on April 30, 2013 at 12:26 PM

welfare needs total reforms

Im pissed these slugs sucked money from US and then dare attack it

the mother and father needs to be made to repay

nonpartisan on April 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Aww, the faux indignation…save it, doesn’t suit you when you fake it like that…who do you think you’re kidding?

jimver on April 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM

As Obama has pointed out we can’t cut anymore from the budget can we? After all the Tsarnaevs are committing the crimes native Americans won’t do.

18-1 on April 30, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Maybe Hungary?

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Maybe the UK?

Shy Guy on April 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

UK,is doomed. Spain will be underwater for a generation…just long enough for Muslims to retake the Cathedral of Cordoba and turn it into a Mosque once again. Took 300 years to end the last occupation.

Meanwhile…Hungary might be a shining light in the Pagan Wilderness.

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 12:37 PM

The bill gets bigger since the taxpayers are paying for the hospital bills and the legal defense bills.

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Meanwhile…Hungary might be a shining light in the Pagan Wilderness.

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 12:37 PM

bye! you’ll fit right in.

sesquipedalian on April 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM

The entire welfare system is a joke and the libs know it, but they need to feed their chattel for the votes on election day.

Bishop on April 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

They know it? they designed it like this in purpose, much like the idiots in the European countries with high immigrant population. at least in Europe most immigrants got there legally (the white guilt) or acame as gasterbeiters and stayed. All of the Lomdon bombers were on welfare, some on and off, some in perpetuity. Here the best example is the USDA advertising food stamps to Mexico embassies and distributing Spanish fliers with instructions for illegals on how to get food stamps. USDA: ‘we don ‘t check immigration status for food stamps’.

jimver on April 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM

I think the cheese wagon needs to be cut off right now!
Cut off his morphine!

RovesChins on April 30, 2013 at 1:04 PM

“The breadth of the benefits the family was receiving was stunning,”

And it’s just the tip of the iceberg.

How do people think all those non-English-speaking and, in many cases, (especially for refugees from places like Somalia) unskilled and uneducated refugees earn a living in the U.S.? The short answer is that, in most cases, they don’t. They cash welfare checks instead.

And we keep bringing them in by the thousands.

But hey, we’ve got money to burn, right?

AZCoyote on April 30, 2013 at 1:21 PM

We could have sent Shelia Jackson Lee on a few junkets with that kind of money.

Flange on April 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Only 4…

And regarding the $100,000 in “benefits”, this is ANOTHER in the long line of Plantation (Democrat) Party success stories… and these two are just the tip of the iceberg as far as welfare FRAUD, etc. are concerned…

Khun Joe on April 30, 2013 at 1:48 PM

welfare needs total reforms

Im pissed these slugs sucked money from US and then dare attack it

the mother and father needs to be made to repay

nonpartisan on April 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM

troll.

alwaysfiredup on April 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM

“You know, if they had received 200K they wouldn’t have set off the bombs”, said libs everywhere.

lakeman on April 30, 2013 at 3:49 PM

the bulk of people incarcerated in our prison system were probably on assitance at one time or another.

gerrym51 on April 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

although everyone’s having massive heartburn over the reality of things, what’s another bacon burger ?

Listen to Robert Spencer explain the massive intelligence failure of the FBI.

Video # 1: in 2010 Robert was asked to speak at Ft. Knox (?) training session on Islam. However, CAIR etc. pressured the US to REMOVE the training materials provided by Spencer (and Stephen Couglin), and to RE-TRAIN those at the original training provider by Spencer.
- so the US is acquiescing to Islamic law to silence opposition against Islam.

video 2: the brother bombers have been linked to a 12-person sleeper cell, and as a result, 100 FBI agents were on the trail. But it doesn’t matter if it was 1,000 or 10,000 agents – they don’t know what they are looking for nor how to interpret any intelligence in light of the threat.
(notwithstanding the arrests today)

No. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aU6N4T0Eco&list=UUwbVxxL3y7H0l8clJWo58_Q&index=6

No. 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EkgipLdFMg&list=UUwbVxxL3y7H0l8clJWo58_Q&index=5

No. 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF2AcdOyjec&list=UUwbVxxL3y7H0l8clJWo58_Q&index=4

No. 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txn7CsCGUn0&list=UUwbVxxL3y7H0l8clJWo58_Q&index=3

No. 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmiG2AcuIHw&list=UUwbVxxL3y7H0l8clJWo58_Q&index=1

No. 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljgTpvOx0L4&list=UUwbVxxL3y7H0l8clJWo58_Q&index=2

williampeck1958 on May 1, 2013 at 4:31 PM