Gosnell jury to get case today

posted at 10:41 am on April 30, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Give CBS News credit for putting this on the front page of their website, prompted perhaps in part by their local affiliate’s coverage of the trial.  Thanks to the surprise decision by the defense to rest their case without presenting any witnesses, the jury heard closing arguments in the murder trial of Kermit Gosnell and his co-defendants, and will begin deliberations today:

A Philadelphia jury is expected to start weighing murder charges in the trial of a veteran abortion provider charged with killing four viable babies after they were born alive.

Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 72, performed thousands of abortions over a 30-year career. He maintains that he helped desperate women and teens who had no other access to medical care.

According to prosecutors, Gosnell routinely cut live babies in the back of the neck to sever their spines because he did not know how to do a proper abortion in utero.

Defense counsel Jack McMahon tried to minimize the testimony heard during the trial:

Defense lawyer Jack McMahon argued that prosecutors who blasted the clinic as a filthy, flea-infested “house of horrors” in a 2011 grand jury report sensationalized the case to make headlines.

“This isn’t a perfect place by any stretch of the imagination — but it isn’t what they say it is,” McMahon argued.

Local protesters want more than just Gosnell and his staff held accountable:

Members of the local pro-life community were outside Philadelphia’s Criminal Justice Center today to call attention to the trial of abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell going on inside.

Some were accusing the Pennsylvania Department of Health of complicity in the alleged crimes.  Others were calling for a ban on all abortions.

Surrounded by silent protesters holding signs, the Rev. Patrick Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition in Washington, DC, said he came to Philadelphia “to pray for justice, the victims, and to stand for justice and human rights and clinic regulations and inspections.”

Mahoney contends that the alleged conditions at Gosnell’s clinic were due to a lack of governmental oversight of abortion facilities.

Most of those who followed the trial probably expect a quick jury decision, but don’t be too sure.  There are a lot of charges to consider, and multiple defendants make it more time-consuming for jurors to assign specific and individual blame.  The jury will be a representative sample of the Philadelphia community, which may have more sympathy for abortion operations than, say, the Hot Air reader community.  The stark and shocking testimony will be difficult to ignore, but perhaps equally difficult to process.

The issues raised in the Gosnell prosecution won’t go away after the jury verdict, either.  An attorney representing Americans United for Life made that clear yesterday (via JD Mullane, who has done a terrific job in reporting the story):

But attorney Jeanneane Maxon of Americans United for Life spoke to reporters outside the court Monday and said her organization plans to use the Gosnell case to push for additional safety legislation for abortion, including Born Alive Infant Protection laws to mandate lifesaving treatment for babies who survive attempted abortions, and stricter standards for abortion facilities.

“This is today’s back-alley abortion situation,” Maxon said of Gosnell.  “This is not an aberration.  Situations like Kermit Gosnell occur across the country.”  She said that in the last three years, fifteen states have had abortionists under investigation for similar crimes.

Maxon said she doubted Gosnell’s lawyer’s claim that only dead babies had their necks “snipped.”  “Why are they snipping the backs of the necks of these babies if they were not born alive?” she asked reporters.

She alleged that at one point during the trial, McMahon said “We don’t have the answers [as to why their necks were snipped].  Maybe they were feeling pain.”

Said Maxon, “Why would a dead baby feel pain?”

Jurors might want to consider that question very carefully — and so should everyone else.


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Jury? Was there a trial?

LeftCoastRight on April 30, 2013 at 10:48 AM

A Philadelphia jury is expected to start weighing murder charges in the trial of a veteran abortion provider charged with killing four viable babies after they were born alive.

Mostly women on the jury. Gosnell is going to walk.

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Wait, is it a baby or isn’t it?

Fallon on April 30, 2013 at 10:50 AM

I predict he’ll walk, because THAT’S how depraved and sick our society has become. Where children are suspended from school for even daring to eat a poptart into the shape of a gun. But it’s just fine if you want to commit infanticide for more than 20 years.

We’re doomed.

Meople on April 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Being put on trial for removing benign lumps of fatty tissue, what has this country become?

Bishop on April 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Yeah, I’m afraid that basically all the defendants are going walk on this.

Doomberg on April 30, 2013 at 10:57 AM

OJ 2.

Marcus on April 30, 2013 at 10:59 AM

According to prosecutors, Gosnell routinely cut live babies in the back of the neck to sever their spines because he did not know how to do a proper abortion in utero.

“I did not know”…FOR 30 YEARS?…How about this Mr Gosnell, “rather than lethal injection since we do not know how to do this in PA., we are going to snip your spinal cord”… Sickening.

hillsoftx on April 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Mostly women on the jury. Gosnell is going to walk.

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Despite being a hard-core cynic, I’m not quite so sure. Unless Gosnell bought a juror, his reported smirking and laughing during the trial likely impressed no one.

Liam on April 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

I’ve been disappointed so many times with high-profile cases and events where I thought that something would be done or that justice would be served that I am naturally pessimistic about this trial.

Aitch748 on April 30, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Would you really be surprised if there was a sympathetic jury in that dump of city in a dump of a state? The people who live there couldn’t tie their own shoes without government assistance, they aren’t about to put too much pressure on a government industry by convicting one its main producers.

Bishop on April 30, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Living babies.

Anyone trying to spin this, just don’t ever bother. They’re completely gone.

Dongemaharu on April 30, 2013 at 11:06 AM

There is no punishment on earth fit for this man. I believe that he will eventually get the punishment he truly deserves, however.

IIRC from Dante, he belongs in the pool of boiling blood, but there may be somewhere farther down that is more apt.

Chris of Rights on April 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM

President Born Alive had no comment….

…because his media didn’t ask.

You hear that Chuck Todd?

PappyD61 on April 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM

I’m as cynical about Americans as anyone but I’ll go out on a limb and say guilty.

The real reason low information media has not covered this is that this is exactly what changes hearts and minds. Exposure to what late term abortions/infanticide really is. The jury has been exposed more than most of us would ever want to be.

Guilty.

MNHawk on April 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM

If he walks will there be videos of cheering students high fiving?

docflash on April 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM

The jury has been exposed more than most of us would ever want to be.

Guilty.

MNHawk on April 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Which is why I think he’s going to walk. The prosecution put on something like five weeks of these horror stories. That jury is probably all PTSD at this point. The defense essentially put up no direct defense.

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2013 at 11:15 AM

The real reason low information media has not covered this is that this is exactly what changes hearts and minds. Exposure to what late term abortions/infanticide really is. The jury has been exposed more than most of us would ever want to be.

Guilty.

MNHawk on April 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM

That’s our only hope at this point. And as the Salon article pointed out quite aptly, Americans are starting not to care PERIOD.

This cr@p is why I never want a jury trial unless the alternative is even worse. My chance of getting, chosen at random, a dozen Amarinds or Marxist Pigs or brainfrees or flatulances is increasing by the day.

MelonCollie on April 30, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Despite being a hard-core cynic, I’m not quite so sure. Unless Gosnell bought a juror, his reported smirking and laughing during the trial likely impressed no one.

Liam on April 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Zero negative impact.
We’re now in the Obama Epoch in this society.
The culture is far gone off the rails and beyond repair.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM

it’s amazing that this trial has been so completely ignored by the “real media”…

equanimous on April 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM

If he walks will there be videos of cheering students high fiving?

docflash on April 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM

If he doesn’t, it is only a matter of days before he becomes a martyr of the abortion movement. Free Kermitt shirts and getting leftist politicians to sign on to support a pardon from the rat-eared coward or somebody.

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Interesting that the term “baby” is being used here. I thought it was just a “fetus” (yes, I know that fetus actually means “unborn offspring” in Latin, but I’m using Murdering-Marxist-speak here) which made it appear as just tissue to be removed?

Here’s the crux of the entire issue: if Gosnell walks after confirming that he aborted “babies“, the death of this nation is complete. It will only be a matter of time before we start seeing true communist laws and regulations being implemented, for whatever reason the government deems it necessary, “for the good of society”.

ICBMMan on April 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

If he walks will there be videos of cheering students high fiving?

docflash on April 30, 2013 at 11:13 AM

You betcha!

If he walks, it WILL THEN, for the first time in most cases, be reported on throughout the Socialist media. It will be HAILED as justice! The jury will be seen as the new heroes of infanticide.

Meople on April 30, 2013 at 11:20 AM

According to Life News Although 88% of Americans are familiar with the name Planned Parenthood only 55% know it does abortions…Let alone that it is the largest provider in the abortion industry.

““The polling reflects the results of Planned Parenthood’s campaign to publicly minimize and obfuscate its involvement with abortion.” said David N. O’Steen, Ph.D., National Right to Life Executive Director…”

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/29/poll-55-of-americans-dont-know-planned-parenthood-does-abortions/

I think he’ll walk…But I hope he’s convicted on all counts.

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Don’t hold your breath waiting for something to be done about the Pennsylvania Department of Health.

GarandFan on April 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM

He might be convicted on the woman, which was a 3rd degree charge. Odds slightly in favor of conviction.

The babies? Depends on the jury makeup (which I haven’t seen reported). Not knowing, I’d say 50-50. If you have a significant churchgoer presence, that may tilt it in favor of a conviction.

Worst-case scenario: Acquittal.

Almost as bad: Conviction on lesser charges only.

either orr on April 30, 2013 at 11:28 AM

According to Life News Although 88% of Americans are familiar with the name Planned Parenthood only 55% know it does abortions…Let alone that it is the largest provider in the abortion industry.

““The polling reflects the results of Planned Parenthood’s campaign to publicly minimize and obfuscate its involvement with abortion.” said David N. O’Steen, Ph.D., National Right to Life Executive Director…”

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/29/poll-55-of-americans-dont-know-planned-parenthood-does-abortions/

I think he’ll walk…But I hope he’s convicted on all counts.

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 11:23 AM

We now live in the world of low information. If it’s not said in 30 seconds or less, you may as well not say it, because no one’s listening.

America is the lowest it’s ever been right now. Sadly though, we haven’t hit bottom yet. So we have that to look forward to.

It was nice knowing you, America.

Meople on April 30, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Many of the reports note that Gosnell has been calm and smiling throughout the trial and closing arguments. One is left to wonder whether it is the smile of a man (“man”?) who knows he has at least on juror in his pocket.

Blaise on April 30, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Me thinks it will be a hung jury and that murderer will get a new trial?
L

letget on April 30, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Me thinks it will be a hung jury and that murderer will get a new trial?
L

letget on April 30, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Either this gets concluded relatively quickly or it goes to a hung jury.

MelonCollie on April 30, 2013 at 11:39 AM

America is the lowest it’s ever been right now. Sadly though, we haven’t hit bottom yet. So we have that to look forward to.

It was nice knowing you, America.

Meople on April 30, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Hungary adopted a Pro-Life & Pro-Marriage/Family Constitution.
(Amnesty Intl’ is a bit upset)

A Hungarian Miracle.

I like Ghoulash….Maybe I’ll learn Hungarian.

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Me thinks it will be a hung jury and that murderer will get a new trial?
L

letget on April 30, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Either this gets concluded relatively quickly or it goes to a hung jury.

MelonCollie on April 30, 2013 at 11:39 AM

If it’s a hung jury the prosecution will be pressured to drop it….cause y’know…it’s messy…and folks don’t want to talk about it.

workingclass artist on April 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

The Disciples of Molech should be along shortly to stink up this thread.

CurtZHP on April 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Hopefully there aren’t any Sandra Flukes on the jury.

They should make an example out of this butcher–life in prison, at least.

Steve Z on April 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM

He might be convicted on the woman, which was a 3rd degree charge. Odds slightly in favor of conviction.

The babies? Depends on the jury makeup (which I haven’t seen reported). Not knowing, I’d say 50-50. If you have a significant churchgoer presence, that may tilt it in favor of a conviction.

Worst-case scenario: Acquittal.

Almost as bad: Conviction on lesser charges only.

either orr on April 30, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Gosnell walking could actually be the worst-case scenario for the pro-abortion lobby. The pro-life movement will be in a rage if a babykiller who operated his clinic for 30 years with impunity gets away with his crimes.

Doughboy on April 30, 2013 at 12:16 PM

He maintains that he helped desperate women and teens who had no other access to medical care.

He doesn’t maintain crap because he didn’t testify.

ButterflyDragon on April 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Mostly women on the jury. Gosnell is going to walk.

Happy Nomad on April 30, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Mostly MINORITY women…just like the ones that got the cat faeces-littered, blood-stained, urine-’perfumed’ waiting room and care by unlicenced medical staff…and unlike the white women, who received Dr Gosnell’s personal care and pristine accommodations.

Eight people have already pleaded guilty to dozens of felonies, including third-degree murder. Among those that have pleaded guilty is his wife, Pearl. She admitted that she performed illegal abortions, was part of a corrupt organisation and participated in a conspiracy.

But, I’m sure that Kermit Gosnell is completely innocent. He played no role. On those Sundays when even his staff was not allowed on the premises, I’m certain that the NON-Dr Mrs Gosnell performed those illegal abortions while DR Gosnell stayed in the car or loo for HOURS even though IT WAS HIS CLINIC.

He is going to need a miracle on the level of OJ Simpson to ‘walk’ on all charges, but he doesn’t have the celebrity, likability, and significance in and for the black community that ‘The Juice’ did. Don’t forget: His staffers that testified against him – including those that have already pleaded guilty to numerous felonies – are minorities, too.

Resist We Much on April 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM

I’m as cynical about Americans as anyone but I’ll go out on a limb and say guilty.

The real reason low information media has not covered this is that this is exactly what changes hearts and minds. Exposure to what late term abortions/infanticide really is. The jury has been exposed more than most of us would ever want to be.

Guilty.

MNHawk on April 30, 2013 at 11:11 AM

That’s what i’m hoping and PRAYING for.

AH_C on April 30, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Good to have a president with the backbone to uphold the constitution against “small governmenters” who want their “small government” in women’s private parts and private business.

lester on April 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Your gosnell lampshade has been shipped.

acyl72 on April 30, 2013 at 1:29 PM

And when the jury is hung, the MSM will express justification in their view that there never was a story here in the first place.

Carnac on April 30, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Many of the reports note that Gosnell has been calm and smiling throughout the trial and closing arguments.

Blaise on April 30, 2013 at 11:32 AM

I was in a jury once where the defendant acted that way. Apparently his lawyer, having very few tricks up his sleeve, advised him to pretend to be at ease and give the impression of confidence that justice would prevail.

In that case it did. We convicted the sucker.

Whether this one gets a pass or not, I bet a lot of people have been energized to keep this issue on the table until we see change. As I have been.

fatherspledge on April 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM

I read an article recently, and unless I misunderstood it, it said that it is legal in all 50 states for a 9 month pregnant woman to decide that she wants an abortion. She can go to an abortion clinic and have the doctor induce her into labor. She can then deliver the baby, and all she has to do is tell the doctor “the thought of that baby surviving is causing me stress”, and the doctor can kill the baby outside of the womb.

The article went on to say that the reason this doesn’t happen often is that most women who are 9 months pregnant have already decided that they want to keep their baby, and because most abortionists won’t perform such a late term abortion based on their own sense of right and wrong.

If that’s actually true, then Gosnell should only be convicted of negligence for the women who died under his care and a slap on the wrist for the unsanitary conditions of his clinic.

ardenenoch on April 30, 2013 at 9:45 PM