Bill Clinton: “You’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon. Trust me.”

posted at 6:01 pm on April 30, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Been getting our self-defense and firearm-selection advice from our esteemed vice president, have we? Or, would that be just our talking points? Via the Washington Examiner:

If you live in a city and you think you need protection of your home, you’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon,” Clinton added. “Trust me. It’s not even close.

Groan. For the umpteenth time — yes, a shotgun is a very solid choice for in-home self-defense, but for goodness’ sake, stop trying to discount AR-15s and their ilk as an defense option because of your eagerness to discredit its possible uses and classify it as an “assualt” weapon. What a criminal can assault a law-abiding citizen with, a law-abiding citizen can just as easily deter and defend against criminals.


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Dang it. Sorry. Let’s try again.

verbaluce, chumpthreads, etc., that’s a 12 gauge that… No, wait.

rogerb on April 30, 2013 at 6:14 PM

 
Ha. Sorry to have left you out, LFOD:
 

What percentage of violent crime in the US involves a firearm?
 
rogerb on April 29, 2013 at 2:19 PM

 
you’re including armed robbery right?
 
libfreeordie on April 30, 2013 at 6:59 PM

 

It involves a firearm, right?
 
rogerb on April 30, 2013 at 7:31 PM

rogerb on April 30, 2013 at 7:48 PM

If you had something that fired cigars, I’m sure Bill would recommend that too.

unclesmrgol on April 30, 2013 at 8:00 PM

“You’re way better off with a shotgun an intern than an assault weapon Juanita Broaddrick. Trust me.”

nico on April 30, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Bill Clinton: “You’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon. Trust me.”

From the man who was shown time and again to be lying, even when the truth was better for him.

Some people never change.

RJL on April 30, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Sounds like rogerb needs to do some learnin’ ’bout guns.
Here are some folks with better experience.

verbaluce on April 30, 2013 at 6:25 PM

I like this one better.

Oldnuke on April 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Has anyone trustworthy ever used the phrase “Trust me”?

SoRight on April 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Sounds like rogerb needs to do some learnin’ ’bout guns.
Here are some folks with better experience.
 
verbaluce on April 30, 2013 at 6:25 PM

 
I like this one better.
 
Oldnuke on April 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

 
Speaking of, did anyone ever figure out what any of them had to do with me “learnin’ ’bout guns”?

rogerb on April 30, 2013 at 8:37 PM

I like this one better.

Oldnuke on April 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Good one! I thought it was going to be the R. Lee Ermey Glock commercial, but this was even better. She did just like Joe Biden told her, except she didn’t use a shotgun.

Loved the tag line, “Horror movies don’t have to last forever …”

Earlier this year, one of the channels was touting a show with the title something on the order of “Horror 911″ or similar. I want to see a show called, “Emergency 9mm” in which armed homeowners keep themselves safe from predators instead of cowering in abject fear in an inner room clutching a phone, desperately waiting for 911 to get emergency services to them while an intruder goes through the house looking for them.

AZfederalist on April 30, 2013 at 8:39 PM

The only thing worse than a sleazy liar is an over the hill has-been sleazy liar.

mad scientist on April 30, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Has anyone trustworthy ever used the phrase “Trust me”?

SoRight on April 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Yep ranks right up there with the smiling muslim tell of “I tell you the truth …”

AZfederalist on April 30, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Bill Clinton: “You’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon. Trust me.”

Thanks, Bill. I was a little worried that people were trying to characterize my semi-auto shotgun with its short barrel, extended magazine and pistol grip as an assault weapon. Are we good to go with the Glock 20 too?

Trainwreck on April 30, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Why choose just one? Why not have one of each, and a good caliber handgun as backup?

Parabellum on April 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM

“…you’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon,”

Yeah. That’s why the DHS is purchasing billions of 40 caliber hollow-point rounds, and not shotgun shells – right Slick?

labrat on April 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Bill Clinton: “You’re way better off with________________________
_________________________(insert anything, here … It won’t matter).
Trust me.”

listens2glenn on April 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

listens2glenn on April 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

.
. . . . N O ! ! ! !

listens2glenn on April 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Bill Clinton: “You’re way better off with________________________
_________________________(insert anything, here … It won’t matter).
Trust me.”

listens2glenn on April 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

listens2glenn on April 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

.
. . . . N O ! ! ! !

listens2glenn on April 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

*sip*

This place gets freakin’ weirder every day.

Axe on April 30, 2013 at 9:43 PM

In CA they don’t even want us to have Ruger 10/22s
El_Terrible on April 30, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Rogerb could use a pic of a Ruger 10/22.
He thinks it’s an old German pistol.

verbaluce on April 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

verbaluce on April 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

can you not be a fking fool for two seconds?

tom daschle concerned on April 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Can anyone take Bill seriously when he talks about blowin’ someone’s head off…

bluesdoc70 on April 30, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Rogerb could use a pic of a Ruger 10/22.
He thinks it’s an old German pistol.

verbaluce on April 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

You could stand to take your head out of Obama’s crotch every now and again.

HumpBot Salvation on April 30, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Actually, I believe the Ruger was the Japanese version of the Luger.

Sandbar on April 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM

“You’re way better off with a shotgun than an assault weapon. Trust me.”

Bwahahahahahahaha

This from the tool that is still try’n to figure out what the meaning of is…is

roflmmfao

donabernathy on May 1, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Bill Clinton (credibility: sub-zero) speaks.

He’s looking like an old man now and there’s no fool like an old fool.

virgo on May 1, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Precisely how many Americans are killed every year by the criminal use of AR-15s?

Precisely how many Americans are killed every year by the criminal use of Saturday Night Specials?

SNS’s are cheap, easily obtainable by criminals, and entirely effective at killing people or intimidating people for gain.

Am I saying SMS’s should be banned? Nope. But the fact that they’re the primary guns used in practically all criminal shootings means that if you want to look at a class of guns that’s where you’d start.

Now why are SMS guns so common? Because if you’re buying a gun for the express purpose of threatening someone then you don’t really care if the gun works or not. And if you’re buying it black market it means you’re paying a markup cost ON TOP Of whatever the gun actually costs. So the cost to the criminal due to the mark up can make criminals very cost conscious. Beyond that, especially if the gun is discharged, it is in the criminal’s interest to dispose of the gun after the crime so that the same gun can’t link the same criminal to multiple crimes. If the criminal uses different guns every time then there is no link.

The AR-15 by comparison is poorly suited to crime. For one thing it is comparatively expensive. For another, it is too large to be easily concealed. And most damning, it operates best at medium range. Criminals want to intimidate you from close range. Close enough for you to give them things or hand them things. Close enough for them to see everything you’re doing with your hands so they can know if you’re complying or not. A sawed off shotgun or a small handgun is better suited to this task. Possibly a sub-machine gun would be effective as well. Though, a replica semi-automatic machine gun is horribly suited to this task.

Really, the AR-15 is a stupid gun. I don’t say that in the sense that people shouldn’t buy it. Rather, it doesn’t do anything very well. I say that as a near complete gun novice. So I’m likely talking loudly out of my ass here. But I bet the average hunting rifle is better at long distance marksmanship, the shot gun has more stopping power at close range, and the hand gun is generally more portable.

What niche then does the AR-15 fill? What does it do that these other guns don’t do besides sorta look like an M16?

It appears to be mostly an atheistic difference. And assuming I’m right there, the focus on the AR-15 by the democrats is just absurd.

Karmashock on May 1, 2013 at 3:18 AM

The only thing I would trust about BJ Clinton is that he loves open-face tacos and a good smoke after dining. Sheesh, what a loser.

philoise65 on May 1, 2013 at 8:40 AM

“Trust me”

—————BillyJeff Clenis

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!1

Wow.

A regular Don Rickles this guy is…

… or maybe just a hockey puck.

hillbillyjim on May 1, 2013 at 9:00 AM

It appears to be mostly an atheistic difference.

Karmashock on May 1, 2013 at 3:18 AM

I think you mean aesthetic difference. ;)

GWB on May 1, 2013 at 11:31 AM

I think he meant to say:

“You is better off with a shotgun than you is with an assault rifle.”

But it depends on what the meaning of is is.

BigAlSouth on May 1, 2013 at 11:32 AM

More talking always seems to make you look brighter, doesn’t it?
 
rogerb on April 30, 2013 at 6:45 PM

 

Rogerb could use a pic of a Ruger 10/22.
 
He thinks it’s an old German pistol.
 
verbaluce on April 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

 
Wow. Nailed that one, didn’t I?
 
And yikes. I actually felt sorry for you when I read it.
 
Regardless, I was torn on how best to respond. There are so many choices.
 
I know. Let’s take a poll.
 
Candidate #1:
 

rogerb on March 12, 2013 at 1:54 PM

 
Friend,
 
Your collecting and misusing of previous comments is as pointless as it is annoying (and should be too time consuming for you, but…)
 
I made an effort with you recently at a substantive back and forth. But no reciprocation on that…just same ‘ole schtick.
 
So I gotta say bye to you…as I did to kingjester.
 
You won’t hear from me again (though like KJ, I’m sure I’ll keep hearing from you).
 
Best of luck to you.
 
verbaluce on March 12, 2013 at 2:17 PM

 
I’m leaning towards this one. Especially since it wasn’t even two months ago:
 

You won’t hear from me again

 
Ha. Conviction!
 
The other candidates follow. Copy and paste your favorite (or the best bit of your favorite) to vote.

rogerb on May 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Candidate #2:
 

Is that as good at bad as you can be?
 
Lame.
 
verbaluce on April 29, 2013 at 2:38 PM

rogerb on May 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Candidate #3:
 

I do not think he lied – as in maliciously and intentionally said something he knew to be false.
 
There’s a difference, you know…
 
verbaluce on October 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM

rogerb on May 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Candidate #4:
 

It’s a sin to tell a lie.
 
Basilsbest on March 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

 
Something tells me you don’t really get the sinning concept that well…
 
verbaluce on March 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

rogerb on May 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Candidate #5:

You’re really bad at this.
 
verbaluce on March 12, 2013 at 1:40 PM…

 
Like, REALLY bad.
 
verbaluce on March 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM

rogerb on May 1, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Candidate #6
 

I understand you’re mad, and do my best to read around the personal and the ad hominem attacks.
 
verbaluce on June 21, 2012 at 2:40 PM

rogerb on May 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM

And the funniest part is you think it takes hours to google words like “ad hominem” + verbaluce.
 

he spends hours working through his files…

 
Wait, maybe this is the funniest part
 

laying things out to appear a certain way that they may not actually be.
 
verbaluce on April 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM

 
Should we take a poll?

rogerb on May 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

What were the cops carrying when looking for the Boston bombers?

El_Terrible on April 30, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Rape whistles.

BornLib on April 30, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Ipecac

lakeman on May 1, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Looks like this took about fifteen minutes out of my lunch hour, verbaluce.
 
How about you? What does your math show?
 
Sorry, I forgot. Nevermind.

rogerb on May 1, 2013 at 1:02 PM

I had the great pleasure of going to the range for the first time ever yesterday, with a friend. He let me fire both his shotgun and his assault weapon. The former is difficult to use, slow, bruised my shoulder, and wasn’t extremely accurate. The latter was easy to load and fire, safer, faster, with almost not recoil. I also was able to hit three bullseyes and five in-target hits out of ten shots, which means that it was rather accurate.

I definitely prefer the assault rifle. Dumb name for it, since it isn’t different from a normal rifle, of course, but whatever you call it, it’s a great weapon.

DrUrchin on May 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM

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