Terrible franchise’s experiment with Tim Tebow ends predictably

posted at 5:21 pm on April 29, 2013 by Allahpundit

After drafting Geno Smith in the second round last week, they ended up with six quarterbacks — really — on the roster. The worst one had to go. Don’t think of it as the Jets losing a sixth-stringer, though. Think of it as arena football gaining a second-stringer.

How predictable was this? March 21, 2012:

In practice, what’ll happen is (a) as soon as Sanchez starts to play mediocre, and he will, Jets fans will torment him with “we want Tebow” chants and that’ll create tension; (2) Tebow will be miserable dealing with the famously nasty Jets locker room (the backbiting has already begun, believe it or not); and (3) the team will struggle offensively anyway because the wildcat is lame, especially now that it’s been four years since it came into vogue and pro defenses have better adapted to it.

They ended up 30th in the league in offense last year. The “we want Tebow” chants started three minutes into the first game. Another prediction from March 23 of last year:

Best-case scenario: A newly motivated Sanchez buckles down and finally learns how to complete a pass longer than six yards. Worst-case scenario: He crumbles under the pressure of Jets fans chanting “TE-BOW, TE-BOW” every time he misses a receiver and they end up platooning to the bitter end of a glorious 6-10 season.

Final 2012 record: 6-10. I blew it, though, on the platoon. Both Sanchez and Tebow were so terrible that Greg McElroy ended up getting a start late in the season.

Three options now for Tebow. One: Try to catch on with another team, even as a second-stringer, and hope the starter struggles. No one seems to want him, though. According to Rich Cimini, the Jets have spent months trying to trade him with no luck. The best place for him would probably be Jacksonville, where at least he’d have a hometown crowd, but the Jags don’t seem to want him either. Two: He could take the advice everyone’s been giving him for years and switch to another position, likely fullback. He’s resisted that at every turn; faced with the end of his career, maybe he’ll finally reconsider. Anyone need a failed QB turned something-else-to-stay-in-the-league? Three: He could hang it up and focus on faith-related work, like the charities his family has developed. That’s what’s made him a cultural phenomenon; he’ll end doing that eventually, whether 10 years from now or tomorrow. Why not start early?


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… yaaaawwwn.

/somebody had to …

M240H on April 29, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Final 2012 record: 6-10. I blew it, though, on the platoon. Both Sanchez and Tebow were so terrible that Greg McElroy ended up getting a start late in the season.

How many of those 10 losses did Tebow unshackled from the coach’s restrictive playcalling, actually have a major hand in producing?

Mitoch55 on April 29, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Dang. Way to waste a “Bishop!”, 240 …

M240H on April 29, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Tebow is like Doug Flutie. He did great in college but never got a fair chance in the pros. When he did get to play, all he ever did was win.

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Or he could go to Canada where the unusual can sometimes thrive. How tall is Doug Flutie? As a resident of Jacksonville, I wish they would bring him home for ticket sales because I would be a buyer.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Tight end?

Fullback?

Redskins? RG to TT for the TD.

darwin on April 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM

In sure if he came out as gay instead of religious this would be an entirely different story…

Skywise on April 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Heard Tebow got picked up by another franchise…

PDQ Chicken.

coldwarrior on April 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM

If he didn’t score touchdowns then “Tebowing” would never have become a phenomenon.

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Redskins? RG to TT for the TD.

darwin on April 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM

I got a bit misty there!!!! A new Diesel!!!

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM

I’m sure there’s a Saturday flag football league somewhere in this great land of ours that can use Tebow.

radjah shelduck on April 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Are the two top threads “side by side” a fluke?

hawkdriver on April 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Sanchez threw Tebow a going away party today….but it was intercepted and returned for a touchdown.

Stu Gotts on April 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I like Tebow, I’ll root for the guy no matter what he does. I wish he would consider changing positions, teams would line up to take him as a fullback or a tight end (Bill Belichick would sign Tebow in heartbeat). Still, if he wants to keep playing QB, then best of luck to him. In a sport full of of azzhats, he’s one of the good guys.

joejm65 on April 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Third option:

Start a career as a blogger, teamed with a well-known non-religious yet conservative blogger on a “Point – CounterPoint” set-up, discussing hot topics of the day.

I’ve even got the name picked out: “Hot Air – Cool Air”

{Pointless – Counterpointless is already taken}

BobMbx on April 29, 2013 at 5:32 PM

I got a bit misty there!!!! A new Diesel!!!

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 5:29 P

I’m sending mind waves to Snyder. Tebow … fullback … Tebow … fullback

Although I’d like to see him try tight end. He’s not super tall but I bet he’d be hard to bring down after a catch.

darwin on April 29, 2013 at 5:33 PM

I don’t really get all the “failed QB” crap he gets. He has a winning record and a playoff win. He can’t throw, at least not short routes. But he has won when he had the chance. I wouldn’t want to change positions either. He hasn’t failed. He was supposed to fail in Denver so that they could get rid of him without any fan backlash. But, unfortunately, he succeeded.

johnsl14 on April 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM

I like Tebow, I’ll root for the guy no matter what he does.

joejm65 on April 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Me too.

darwin on April 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I’m sending mind waves to Snyder. Tebow … fullback … Tebow … fullback

Although I’d like to see him try tight end. He’s not super tall but I bet he’d be hard to bring down after a catch.

darwin on April 29, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Well if he wants to play, all he needs to do is head over to a nudey bar, beat up somebody, and admit to having drugs on his person.

Jerry Jones would snap him up in a New York minute.

BobMbx on April 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM

How long till Sanchez is cut?

El_Terrible on April 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Took the Broncos to the Playoffs during his rookie season.

Heisman Trophy winner.

He’ll return.

portlandon on April 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM

According to Rich Cimini, the Jets have spent months trying to trade him with no luck.

Why trade a draft pick when you know you’ll get it for free?

rbj on April 29, 2013 at 5:37 PM

I like Tebow, I’ll root for the guy no matter what he does.

joejm65 on April 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Me too.

darwin on April 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Me four. Mrs Hawkdriver said “me three”.

hawkdriver on April 29, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Only in modern America folks when you take your team to the playoffs your first year as a starter and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers can you be labeled a failure, because the way you accomplished your success was too unorthodox. If Paul Brown was alive and coaching he would grab Tebow in a minute. Professor Frank Ryan was the same type quarterback.

OliverB on April 29, 2013 at 5:40 PM

My submission for a “Dude” post:

Should be standard issue at all Obama speeches.

BobMbx on April 29, 2013 at 5:41 PM

If Tebow was a hockey player, The Jets would have traded him to The Devils.

birdwatcher on April 29, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Tebow is like Doug Flutie. He did great in college but never got a fair chance in the pros. When he did get to play, all he ever did was win.

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 5:26 PM

I’d like to see him have a year with a coach whose attitude is as good as Tim’s. That being a stretch, I’d settle for a coach who valued his heart and drive and would believe in him. work at coaching him, and give him a chance as quarterback.

I like Tebow, I’ll root for the guy no matter what he does.

joejm65 on April 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Me too.

darwin on April 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Me four. Mrs Hawkdriver said “me three”.

hawkdriver on April 29, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Ditto.

INC on April 29, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Option plays out of a backfield containing Tebow and a Vick or RGIII with swift WRs could be pretty amazing …

M240H on April 29, 2013 at 5:43 PM

If McDaniels had not drafted him in the first round, most people would not even know who Tim Tebow is.

BubbaCluck on April 29, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Tebow should become a Mixed Martial Artist…

ESPN really does not like reporting on the UFC… if Tebow started fighting there they wouldn’t have a choice.

ninjapirate on April 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Three: He could hang it up and focus on faith-related work, like the charities his family has developed. That’s what’s made him a cultural phenomenon; he’ll end doing that eventually, whether 10 years from now or tomorrow. Why not start early?

That’s part of it—but the cultural phenomenon came because he walked his talk, and had a great attitude even when being treated badly. What grace he showed at those pressers.

And that season’s end with the Broncos means he’ll be remembered in football. “All he does is win.”

INC on April 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Tim Tebow playoff wins as starting Broncos QB: 1
Peyton Manning playoff wins as starting Broncos QB: 0

Pretty good for a nonviable fetus.

JeremiahJohnson on April 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

I don’t get, or really pay attention to, the fascination with Tebow. That said, calling him a failed QB is, well, false. The Jets are awful regardless who plays for them. And Tebow does have more playoff wins the past two years than Peyton Manning.

Erich66 on April 29, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Pretty good for a nonviable fetus.

JeremiahJohnson on April 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

:)

INC on April 29, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Just spitballin’ here, but, if Sanchez gets dumped and then Peyton goes down, there will seem to have been a whole lot of hot air blown and nothing gained. As far as I’m concerned, the Jets decided to play mind games by bringing Tebow on board, then just about finished his career by sticking him off in a corner. I hope Rex Ryan loses every game this year.

a capella on April 29, 2013 at 5:48 PM

I’m a Jets fan. The franchise treated Tebow shabbily. Rex Ryan stayed with Sanchez as QB when he was completely ineffectual, and gave Tebow handful of snaps.

I hope he lands somewhere and does well. He’s been a class act all along.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on April 29, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Who cares? That the Tim Tebow experiment would end in disaster was as expected as Obama’s constant ‘unexpected,’ disastrous economic numbers.

The New York media has HATED Tebow forEVAH. Now, if he had been a Muslim or ‘came out,’ then everything would have been kewl.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Well the Jets still have Sanchez, as their first stringer. That does not bode well for them since he is not a good QB. They also have Rex Ryan, not a good head coach, and the fans and management seem good with that. This is not a winning strategy.

I think that Tebow could take the Doug Flutie route and get a career at a CFL team. I suspect he would do ok there.

simkeith on April 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Allah, you’re forgetting Option 4: The CFL.

Good Solid B-Plus on April 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM

If McDaniels had not drafted him in the first round, most people would not even know who Tim Tebow is.

BubbaCluck on April 29, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Most people knew who Tim Tebow was before he got drafted. It’s hard to go unnoticed in America when you win a Heisman and two National Championships.

joejm65 on April 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM

I’m sorry, I know there’s a lot of Tebow fans here because of his politics and faith but folks lets face it, he’s not that good of a QB. Its a business, not a charity and when you can only complete less than 50% of your passes, you’re not going to play much in the NFL. Lot of the Tebow wins in Denver were close, against bad teams, and three went into overtime. Did any of you actually watch those games? Most of it was luck. His last three games that season went for losses and was blown out in two of them.

Enough of it. He may be a good guy off the field but he’s not an NFL caliber QB.

Lay-Z on April 29, 2013 at 5:50 PM

I’ve wondered if they didn’t play him a lot because he’s left handed. Just an idea, but if you have a left handed quarterback throwing against a helluva lot of right-handed defenders, then he throws right towards their strong side mostly. I’m no QB, but just would think that might be one of the reasons they are gun shy about playing Tebow against NFL defenses.

two cent !

ted c on April 29, 2013 at 5:51 PM

According to Rich Cimini, the Jets have spent months trying to trade him with no luck.

Why trade a draft pick when you know you’ll get it for free?

rbj on April 29, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Someone gets it…

riddick on April 29, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Hello, Canadian Football League!

Deafdog on April 29, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Enough of it. He may be a good guy off the field but he’s not an NFL caliber QB.

Lay-Z on April 29, 2013 at 5:50 PM

You can’t coach into a guy the leadership and class and drive to never quit that Tim has.

I’d like to see a coach who realized that and tried to coach Tim’s football skills—then see what happens.

INC on April 29, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Took the Broncos to the Playoffs during his rookie season.
Heisman Trophy winner.
He’ll return.

portlandon on April 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM

He’s been a winner wherever he’s actually gotten playing time. I don’t get it. I guess teams figure that because of his unique playing style, they’d have to build an offense around him. So the alternative is for him to adapt. That being said, isn’t there anyone willing to coach him up?

RMCS_USN on April 29, 2013 at 5:54 PM

ted c on April 29, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Kenny Stabler and Steve Young did O.K.

a capella on April 29, 2013 at 5:55 PM

I don’t get, or really pay attention to, the fascination with Tebow.

Erich66 on April 29, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Two national titles, Heisman trophy, MVP of national championship.

John the Libertarian on April 29, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Enough of it. He may be a good guy off the field but he’s not an NFL caliber QB.

Lay-Z on April 29, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Remind us again how did Manning do with same team? Its not just technical ability, but team’s belief in you, seems they believed in Tebow way more. McMahon in Chicago had limited ability, probably similar to Tebow, but the team would have died for him on the field. Ability counts, but only for so much, look at Lakers this year.

riddick on April 29, 2013 at 5:55 PM

What I want to know is why Ryan and Sanchez are still a part of this franchise? I mean, this is a bit like keeping Reid and Pelosi while dumping Ashley Judd.

Erich66 on April 29, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Most presentient headline of this past weekend, after their selecting what would be their 6th rostered QB, identified the team as the “New York Yets

socalcon on April 29, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Lay-Z on April 29, 2013 at 5:50 PM

I think they said the same thing about Sonny Jergensen. Besides, I am open to him playing another position.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 5:57 PM

I don’t get, or really pay attention to, the fascination with Tebow.

Erich66 on April 29, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Two national titles, Heisman trophy, MVP of national championship.

John the Libertarian on April 29, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Erich66 must be a Bronco fan… In—-Com—-Plete!

socalcon on April 29, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Took the Broncos to the Playoffs during his rookie season.
portlandon on April 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Yes – they won a playoff game in Denver against a beat up Steelers team, and then they got thoroughly whipped by the Patriots in the second playoff game.
Tebow does have some leadership and athletic skills, but he’s just not a top tier QB.
The Broncos’ success at the end of that season also had a lot to do with a defense that finally got it together. If the defense had plaed that way when Orton was the QB, we’d still be talking about Orton as the Bronco’s starting QB. Tebow did almost nothing in the first 3 quarters of the games he started, and was only able to pull out a miraculous win at the end because the defense kept them in the game.
During the prior off-season, he should have hired a throwing coach to help him improve his passing game instead of going on a book signing tour – for an autobiography of a frikkin 23 year old kid.

dentarthurdent on April 29, 2013 at 5:58 PM

hmm. There might be something to the left-handed QB theory. Here’s a list of leftie NFL QBs for the last few years.
1999-2002 – Cade McNown
2000-2001 – Matt Lytle
2001-2001 – Josh Heupel (Only played in training camp due to injury)
2001-Present – Michael Vick *
2003-2010 – Chris Simms
2003-2005 – Dave Ragone
2003-2004 – Greg Zolman
2004-2007 – Jared Lorenzen
2005-2005 – Stefan Lefors (Never played in a single game)
2005-2007 – David Greene (Never played in a single game)
2006-Present – Matt Leinart *
2009-2010 – Pat White (Joined MLB 9/10/10, retired from MLB 3/9/11) *
2009-2011 – Tyler Palko
2010-Present – Tim Tebow *
2010-Present – Sean Canfield *
2012-Present – Kellen Moore *

Most of these leftie QBs aren’t worth a damn.

ted c on April 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Two national titles, Heisman trophy, MVP of national championship.

John the Libertarian on April 29, 2013 at 5:55 PM

There have been many other star college players who just were not able to transition that same success into the NFL.

dentarthurdent on April 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

“…sticking him off in a corner…”

a capella on April 29, 2013 at 5:48 PM

With Revis gone, there is a spot for him…

socalcon on April 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Erich66 must be a Bronco fan… In—-Com—-Plete!

socalcon on April 29, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Not a Broncos fan at all. Regardless, I guess you didn’t read the rest:

That said, calling him a failed QB is, well, false. The Jets are awful regardless who plays for them. And Tebow does have more playoff wins the past two years than Peyton Manning.

Erich66 on April 29, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Erich66 on April 29, 2013 at 6:02 PM

What I want to know is why Ryan and Sanchez are still a part of this franchise? I mean, this is a bit like keeping Reid and Pelosi while dumping Ashley Judd.

Erich66 on April 29, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Ryan is in the last year of his contract (I think). Sanchez is due a large amount of guaranteed money this year and represents a huge salary cap hit if he gets cut this season. They’re both lame ducks.

joejm65 on April 29, 2013 at 6:02 PM

AP with all due respect you are sadly biased and simply wrong
What did Tebow do in college, he won.
What did Tebow do in Denver, he won.
What did Tebow do in NY, nothing.
The difference between what he did in Denver and NY is he was given a fair chance. The two reasons Denver traded him is Elway’s ego and Manning’s release. John Elway needs to be the “football” god in Denver and Tebow interfered with his media worship. Manning will always be remembered as the Colts QB regardless of what he might accomplish in Denver, So Elway’s “Legacy” is safe.
The Jet’s wanted Tebow for the buzz and ticket sales period. They never really planned on him getting a fair chance. He was never going to be the starter in any real sense.
Wll he play someplace else as QB? I would not count him out, but even if he doesn’t he is already a better role model then 90% of the pro sports stars today by a wide margin. Even if you are not religious you have to respect the man for bucking the system and wearing his beliefs with pride

JKotthoff on April 29, 2013 at 6:06 PM

The great irony is that Tim Tebow has won more playoff games with the Broncos than Peyton Manning has.

Tebow should go look for a team that’s willing to have him. There are plenty of teams with losing records and terrible QBs. Tebow should be able to replace one of them.

Stoic Patriot on April 29, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Remind us again how did Manning do with same team? Its not just technical ability, but team’s belief in you, seems they believed in Tebow way more. McMahon in Chicago had limited ability, probably similar to Tebow, but the team would have died for him on the field. Ability counts, but only for so much, look at Lakers this year.

riddick on April 29, 2013 at 5:55 PM

2011 (Tebow) – 8-8 season 1 playoff win.
20112 (Manning) – 13-3 season 1 playoff loss.
The Broncos barely won against a beat up Steelers team in 2011.
They lost to a very fired up Ravens team – with the whole “do it for Ray Lewis” emotion factor.
Denver should have won, but they didn’t – on some poor decisions in my view. They blew it.
I believe the Broncos can do better this year – WITHOUT Tebow.

dentarthurdent on April 29, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Not really trying to defend Tebow, cause he really has a terrible arm in terms of aim, but the Jets barely gave him a chance.

Someone might look to turn him into a tight end.

Either way, the Jets are still going to suck. If they dump Sanchez, they’ve got a rookie starting for a coach that is very poor at developing QBs while implementing a brand new O scheme with poor offensive talent.

If they keep Sanchez, he’s got a rookie breathing down his neck, and a crowd chanting for Gino Smith, with a crummy head coach, a new O system, and poor offensive talent.

William Teach on April 29, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Smith will suck too. Have fun NY.

CW on April 29, 2013 at 6:12 PM

The real failure was that Tebow wasn’t overcome by the seduction of NYC and give the media something juicy to write about.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 6:14 PM

The great irony is that Tim Tebow has won more playoff games with the Broncos than Peyton Manning has.

True – but only “with the Broncos”.

Tebow should go look for a team that’s willing to have him. There are plenty of teams with losing records and terrible QBs. Tebow should be able to replace one of them.

Stoic Patriot on April 29, 2013 at 6:06 PM

I agree – there are teams that could use him.
He’s not a bad QB, he just hasn’t proven to match up to the hype or his college record. And a few last minute wins, including a single playof game, where the defense kept him in the game don’t make him a top tier QB.
If he improves his passing game he could make that top tier.

dentarthurdent on April 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM

How long till Sanchez is cut?

El_Terrible on April 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM

I hate to say it, but Sanchez has to go. And he can take Rex with him.

JetBoy on April 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM

I heard this morning that Sanchez will probably go in the first week of June.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Smith will suck too. Have fun NY.

CW on April 29, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Yeah, like us Jets die-hards aren’t used to disappointment…

JetBoy on April 29, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Tebow is a great leader with a inaccurate arm. What is more important? A man who crumbles like Sanchez and can’t make the throws because of confidence, or a man who never quits who will get excited and throw a duck or two.

In the NFL Tebow’s release was too slow. I wish they had given him more of a chance to get his style corrected.

Listen, Bob Griese could barely make forty yards on a post pattern. He won because he had a good coach, good receivers and a good mind for the game.

Joe Montana couldn’t throw hard. but he was accurate and figured every time he was on the field he could win- leadership.

Tebow is strong, smart, an athlete. Could he be a third down back with good hands and fairly quick feet? Maybe. Linebackers today are pretty quick. Fullback. Maybe, with the right scheme.

The real problem is he’s a Christian and that drives everybody crazy.

It is better to make him go away than let him shine.

Too bad.

archer52 on April 29, 2013 at 6:19 PM

The worst one had to go.

Then it should have been Sanchez — he was horrible last year, and will be this year too.

I’m predicting another losing season for the Jets, probably 4-12.

Richard Romano on April 29, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Sounds like AP is doing a touchdown dance.

Rex Ryan is just trying to blame someone for his woeful lack of coaching skills.

Tebow just needs a good offensive line to give him some time & protection due to his unorthodox throwing style and to open some lanes for him to run through. He also needs a good defense to keep the game close. It may take Divine intervention to get that done.

HellCat on April 29, 2013 at 6:22 PM

I heard this morning that Sanchez will probably go in the first week of June.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Saves Jets a pile of money this way. Been a Jets fan since early ’80s, this is getting tiring, year in and year out, same nothing one way or another. Can’t figure out why would an owner not want to win.

riddick on April 29, 2013 at 6:23 PM

actually wouldn’t be surprised if the Bears didn’t pick him up as Trestman really really wanted him on his team in Montreal

Doctor Zhivago on April 29, 2013 at 6:25 PM

riddick on April 29, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Tax write off? Just kidding!!!

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Yeah, like us Jets die-hards aren’t used to disappointment…

JetBoy on April 29, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Sorry. Telling it like I see it. Tebow was the least of their problems.

CW on April 29, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Enough of it. He may be a good guy off the field but he’s not an NFL caliber QB.

Lay-Z on April 29, 2013 at 5:50 PM

He took a 1-4 team to the playoffs — what did Jacksonville do last year, with a so-called NFL-caliber QB? The Bills? What about The Rams?

Richard Romano on April 29, 2013 at 6:29 PM

The real failure was that Tebow wasn’t overcome by the seduction of NYC and give the media something juicy to write about.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Well said, Cindy. So often the sideshow becomes the show.

And frankly, athletics in general, professional football and basketball specifically, have become something quite ugly when the “only” value to be derived from it is winning and the cashbox receipts.

Tim Tebow has taken from and given to sports something you can’t put in the bank.

hawkdriver on April 29, 2013 at 6:30 PM

dentarthurdent on April 29, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Nothing but excuses. Tebow was thrown in by the team when they pretty much gave up on even trying to make playoffs. I do understand that as a backup he did train with the team and all, but Manning had a WAY BETTER time adjusting to the team than Tebow had. And still couldn’t deliver, “Ray Lewis” or not. You either find a way to win or you loose. The way I see it, Tebow over-delivered in Denver while Manning has under-delivered. At a much high price to boot.

Your prediction for the upcoming season is based on Manning staying healthy, a huge question mark and just one hit away from retirement. I hope Denver gets their money’s worth, but who knows…

riddick on April 29, 2013 at 6:31 PM

I’m sorry, I know there’s a lot of Tebow fans here because of his politics and faith but folks lets face it, he’s not that good of a QB. Its a business, not a charity and when you can only complete less than 50% of your passes, you’re not going to play much in the NFL.

I could care less about Tebow’s faith and politics. When he plays, he wins.

He won two national championships in college, along with an MVP and a Heisman Trophy. His first year as a pro he took his team to the playoffs and won the first playoff game. Not bad for a rookie.

Then he got traded to a team that didn’t let him play and cut him after one season.

Football is indeed a business. If you have a player that wins games you play him, no matter what the stat sheet says. You can’t say he “failed” if he was never given a chance. He could hardly have done worse than the “better” QB’s on the team.

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 6:31 PM

He’s not a bad QB, he just hasn’t proven to match up to the hype or his college record. And a few last minute wins, including a single playof game, where the defense kept him in the game don’t make him a top tier QB.
If he improves his passing game he could make that top tier.

dentarthurdent on April 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Give him a chance and we’ll see, no? You’re already writing him off, and, neglecting the fact that he still beat a Steelers team in the playoffs (beat up or not, it’s still the Steelers with a team that a non-NFL caliber QB should not be able to beat).

It’s true that the Broncos had a great defense — but every good team has a solid defense. The QB in the end has to score, and Tebow was able to win when it mattered.

The irony is that he won that playoff game with a terrific bullet pass — something people are claiming he can’t do.

Richard Romano on April 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM

If McDaniels had not drafted him in the first round, most people would not even know who Tim Tebow is.

BubbaCluck on April 29, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Right. Nobody watches college football.

Tim Tebow playoff wins as starting Broncos QB: 1
Peyton Manning playoff wins as starting Broncos QB: 0

Pretty good for a nonviable fetus.

JeremiahJohnson on April 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Manning is probably one of the most overrated playoff QBs of all-time. Great for the first 14 games of the regular season and the complete crap in the first round of the playoffs.

tetriskid on April 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM

If McDaniels had not drafted him in the first round, most people would not even know who Tim Tebow is.

BubbaCluck on April 29, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Wow, just wow. I know you hate the guy, but do you have to be so stupidly transparent about it?

Richard Romano on April 29, 2013 at 6:36 PM

I like Tebow, I’ll root for the guy no matter what he does.

joejm65 on April 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Me too.

darwin on April 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Me four. Mrs Hawkdriver said “me three”.

hawkdriver on April 29, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Ditto.

INC on April 29, 2013 at 5:41 PM

I am so there!

Seems I recall that Sanchez had a worse QBR than Tebow. The Jets disrespected Tebow and might have ruined his career, but then we’re talking about Tebow so I wouldn’t count him out.

Christian Conservative on April 29, 2013 at 6:37 PM

According to the stat sheets JaMarcus Russell is a better QB than Tim Tebow.

Except for the W-L column

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 6:37 PM

hawkdriver on April 29, 2013 at 6:30 PM

And that must be stopped.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I heard Sanchez tried to throw a going away party for Tebow, but it got intercepted and run back for a touchdown.

MunDane68 on April 29, 2013 at 6:40 PM

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Are you dealing strictly with college stats?

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 6:40 PM

According to the stat sheets JaMarcus Russell is a better QB than Tim Tebow.

Except for the W-L column

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Exactly.

Too many fantasy football nerds.

Like Al Davis said: “Just win baby.”

tetriskid on April 29, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Manning is probably one of the most overrated playoff QBs of all-time.

Fran Tarkington, Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly – never won the Big One. Manning won one Super Bowl.

(Okay, Kelly won more playoff games than he lost but still . . .)

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 6:41 PM

I’m still a Tebow fan..Denver should have kept him to back up Peyton..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Good grief: Chiefs pass on drafting QB.

This will not end well…

locomotivebreath1901 on April 29, 2013 at 6:46 PM

All Tebow does is win.

The Broncos lost 4 out of their last 5 as teams figured out how to scheme for him. And if you want to credit him for that Pittsburgh win, you have to equally blame him for the meltdown a week later in New England.

Tebow did it “the right way”

I guess we’re all forgetting the stories from late last year where Tebow refused to run Wildcat plays because he didn’t want to be seen as a gimmick. It’s also telling that Tebow is harboring a SERIOUS ego problem in that he refuses to change positions to take advantages of the abilities he does possess. Becoming a FB/TE would be what’s best for the team. But noooooo, Lil Timmy’s got to be QB1!

SaveFarris on April 29, 2013 at 6:50 PM

I have a confession to make – I am a Raider fan.

I know all about losing. It’s been a long dry spell since the Silver and Black last made the playoffs.

As far as I am concerned a QB that is overrated in the playoffs is an improvement over what we have had since Rich Gannon.

BTW – Gannon was another QB who supposedly wasn’t good enough for the pros. He took KC to the playoffs and as a reward they benched him and started Grbac. Elvis lost the game.

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Good grief: Chiefs pass on drafting QB.

This will not end well…

They traded for Alex Smith.

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 6:53 PM

The Broncos lost 4 out of their last 5 as teams figured out how to scheme for him.

They made the playoffs, didn’t they? That’s better than most teams in the league.

myiq2xu on April 29, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Good grief: Chiefs pass on drafting QB.

This will not end well…

locomotivebreath1901 on April 29, 2013 at 6:46 PM

They’ve got Smith, though, no?

Richard Romano on April 29, 2013 at 6:55 PM

The Jets are a mess. When they made the Tebow trade it was a head scratcher because they had just signed Sanchez to an extension, the same extension that makes it too costly for the Jets to cut Sanchez now.

Tebow is lucky yo get away from there, although I doubt any other team gives him a shot at QB. He’s just not a good pro QB.

Captain Kirock on April 29, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Final 2012 record: 6-10. I blew it, though, on the platoon. Both Sanchez and Tebow were so terrible that Greg McElroy ended up getting a start late in the season.

Terrible? How can you know?

Steve Clarkson, who worked with Tebow to improve his throwing motion, said that Tebow was given four plays which were his and he pacticed.

Do you hear? F-O-U-R.

Clarkson said that defensive linemen we calling out which plays were going to be run when they came to the line. How can any quarterback, from Johnny Unitas to Tom Brady, have any success with only four plays?

I hope Tebow gets another chance. He’s a lifetime 8-6 in the regular season, 1-1 in the playoffs, and set 5 NFL records in the game against the Steelers, the then #1 defense in the NFL.

For a clear understanding of Tebow’s winning ways, check out this article from Cold Hard Football Facts.

Finally, if the Dog Killer can get a second chance, so should he.

itsspideyman on April 29, 2013 at 6:56 PM

The best thing I can say about this is that Tim Tebow will go on and live a great life and do great things off the football field. I may not like how he has been treated but no one can ever say that he didn’t try and always treated people as he would want to be treated. Better, even.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 7:00 PM

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