Report: Feds find female DNA on one of the marathon bombs

posted at 7:21 pm on April 29, 2013 by Allahpundit

I sure hope there’s more to this than the Journal is letting on, because if the odds of a completely innocent explanation are as high as they imply, it’s a major cloud of suspicion over Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s wife for no reason at all.

Hmmmm:

Investigators have found female DNA on at least one of the bombs used in the Boston Marathon attacks, though they haven’t determined whose DNA it is or whether that means a woman helped the two suspects carry out the attacks, according to U.S. officials briefed on the probe.

The officials familiar with the case cautioned that there could be multiple explanations for why the DNA of someone other than the two bombing suspects—Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother, Dzhokhar—could have been found on remnants of the exploded devices. The genetic material could have come, for example, from a store clerk who handled materials used in the bombs or a stray hair that ended up in the bomb…

One official familiar with the case said agents went to the house Monday to collect a DNA sample from Ms. Russell [i.e. Tsarnaev's widow], the culmination of days of negotiations. FBI officials also have been negotiating with Ms. Russell’s attorney in recent days to get fuller access to question her, the officials familiar with the case said. The officials briefed on the investigation said the DNA request was needed to determine whether it matched the DNA found on the bomb remnants.

Couldn’t the material also have come from a female victim at the scene?

Supposedly there are still as many as a half-dozen people they’re “interested” in, although I think only one has suspicion swirling around her based on previous media reports. Then again, why would it be surprising if his wife’s DNA is on one of the bombs? Not every component in the device had a nefarious explanation. There’s a chance, I suppose, that one of the pressure cookers came from the family’s own kitchen. Tamerlan, who was famously domineering according to people who knew him, also might have told his wife to go out and buy one of the components he needed without explaining what it was for. Unless her DNA’s on the explosive itself, how would the feds ever prove that it didn’t end up there innocently? Unless Dzhokhar’s prepared to testify to that fact, I mean. Maybe in exchange for a plea deal?

Speaking of which:

Clarke’s specialty isn’t acquittal, it’s helping high-profile and obviously guilty defendants like Loughner avoid capital punishment. Maybe that means Dzhokhar Tsarnaev will be more likely to cooperate now, or maybe that means we’ll be paying for three hots and cot for this cretin for the next 60 years in exchange for nothing.

Update: Presented without comment.

Marciano: “Do you believe at any time when you knew Tamerlan that he could be a terrorist?”

Allen: “No, but I will say there were a couple of members who thought that he might be.”

Marciano: “What did they say?”

Allen: “Well, it’s when he began to actually pray, face towards Mecca and pray. Right away you heard comments: ‘This guy a terrorist? I think this guy’s a terrorist.’”

Update: Former CIA analyst Robert Baer is also wondering about a third person — not an accomplice per se, but a trainer.


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Maybe the wife used the pressure cooker as a pressure cooker before it became a WMD.

Cindy Munford on April 29, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Pink mist. It was everywhere and I wouldn’t be surprised if it landed on the remnants of the bomb.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 7:25 PM

This whole investigation is starting to read like a Tom Clancy Novel.

portlandon on April 29, 2013 at 7:25 PM

The living Joker jihady looks faminine anyway ;-)

burrata on April 29, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Couldn’t the material also have come from a female victim at the scene?

Whoops. Didn’t see this. I think it would take more than 2 weeks to rule the victims out as being the source of the dna. So, why release this info to the public? We could skip to the chase and get a sample from wifey right now.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 7:27 PM

This whole investigation is starting to read like a Tom ClancyKeystone Cops Novel.

portlandon on April 29, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Fixed it.

trs on April 29, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Allah,

How do I buy stock in Hot Air, and what is the abbreviation so I can see how they are trading?

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Maybe that means Dzhokhar Tsarnaev will be more likely to cooperate now, or maybe that means we’ll be paying for three hots and cot for this cretin for the next 60 years in exchange for nothing.

Strip him of his citizenship. Give him a choice: cooperate and he gets death, don’t cooperate and serve life without parole in a Russian prison.

rbj on April 29, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Mom! Where’s my pressure cooker?

The Mom? Or the wife?

I’d take another good and long look at the wife.

Upper middle class…white…liberal…convert to Islam.

Deserves another look. Scary prospect. Once that crossover has been made…seriously scary prospect.

The mom? Blantantly pro-jihadi. Nothing new, there.

I’d pay attention to Bob Baer, by the way. Former colleague. Been there. Know’s of which he speaks better than the vast majority of others. Was casing Islamic terrorists long before it became chic.

coldwarrior on April 29, 2013 at 7:30 PM

‘Mommmmmmmaaaaaaaa!,’ ‘Honey, I think you left some DNA on that bomb!’ or entire family of ‘lone wolves’???

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Maybe Jason Collins can find out. I heard he is a “hero” or something.

tetriskid on April 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Eric Holder will get to the bottom this…I am confident of that./////////////////////////////

d1carter on April 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Clarke’s specialty isn’t acquittal, it’s helping high-profile and obviously guilty defendants like Loughner avoid capital punishment.

Loughner was/is crazy as a loon. I’m shocked that they got him through a plea even with all the meds. This muslim dirtbag is not crazy.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM

One official familiar with the case said agents went to the house Monday to collect a DNA sample from Ms. Russell [i.e. Tsarnaev's widow], the culmination of days of negotiations.

Missed it again!

FBI officials also have been negotiating with Ms. Russell’s attorney in recent days to get fuller access to question her, the officials familiar with the case said.

Just arrest the dirtbag.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 7:35 PM

If momma ain’t bombin’, ain’t nobody bombin’!

SouthernGent on April 29, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Atty for Jared Loughner, Tuscon mass murderer, added to Tsarnaev defense team. Legend Judy Clarke

How did this happen ?
Did the Joker ‘s family retain this lawyer ?
If yes, then will the taxpayers be paying for this and the other lawyer too ?
Did the DoJ appoint this lawyer ?
If yes, then why ?
Did the lawyer volunteer to protect the killer ?
If yes, then who is paying the fees? The saudis ?

burrata on April 29, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Were the backpacks new, used, or stolen?

meci on April 29, 2013 at 7:40 PM

burrata on April 29, 2013 at 7:37 PM

She was/is a federal public defender who specializes in capital cases. Since every DP defendant is entitled to two attys and most offices can’t spare two attys at once or don’t have two qualified attys, they can contract out.

But, yeah, the tax payer foots the bill.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Were the backpacks new, used, or stolen?

meci on April 29, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Interesting…

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Maybe Jason Collins can find out. I heard he is a “hero” or something.

tetriskid on April 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM

bwahahahaha

budfox on April 29, 2013 at 7:44 PM

burrata on April 29, 2013 at 7:37 PM

The federal public defender’s office in Massachusetts is representing him. It can take on private second-chairs, who will be paid for by the taxpayer, but not at his normal hourly rate, typically.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Didn’t Joker live with a few girls?

Weren’t they his sisters?

And some Kazaks, too?

As Yoda would say – “many people this could be from”.

budfox on April 29, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Couldn’t the material also have come from a female victim at the scene?

Whoops. Didn’t see this. I think it would take more than 2 weeks to rule the victims out as being the source of the dna. So, why release this info to the public? We could skip to the chase and get a sample from wifey right now.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Because they seems to see this as significant, it may have been DNA material trapped in the components of the bomb, like maybe a hair or tiny fingerprint partial under a piece of electrical tape, just for example.

slickwillie2001 on April 29, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Have we stopped all muslim immigration yet? Why not? If it saves the life of one child, we have to do it.

slickwillie2001 on April 29, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Report: Feds find female DNA on one of the marathon bombs

So when will someone on MSNBC claim that “IT’S CONSERVATIVE DNA!”

GarandFan on April 29, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Have the FBI determined if the DNA is from a virgin?

This may be helpful.

/

Electrongod on April 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Where was Sarah Palin during the making of these bombs?

portlandon on April 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Where was Sarah Palin during the making of these bombs?

portlandon on April 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM

She’s a runner, y’know!

massrighty on April 29, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Update: Former CIA analyst Robert Baer is also wondering about a third person — not an accomplice per se, but a trainer.

What an idiot if he can’t even figure out who the third person was. The Boston Bomber Bastards may have perspired, but it was Mohammad (all Muslims “Perfect Man”) who inspired.

VorDaj on April 29, 2013 at 7:56 PM

One of the Tsarnaev sisters?

annoyinglittletwerp on April 29, 2013 at 7:57 PM

JustTheFacts on April 29, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Holy Jesus…are you having a stroke right now???

Just go with it.

BigWyo on April 29, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Have the FBI determined if the DNA is from a virgin?

This may be helpful.

/

Electrongod on April 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Lindsey Graham?

VorDaj on April 29, 2013 at 7:58 PM

” At this point , what difference does it make? ”

Sorry , I got Benghazi on my mind today .

Lucano on April 29, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Dammit…

BigWyo on April 29, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Couldn’t the material also have come from a female victim at the scene?

That was my first thought.

or a stray hair that ended up in the bomb

Wouldn’t a hair inside the bomb be incinerated?

Wouldn’t any DNA on anything inside the bomb get incinerated?

Maybe something on the exterior could survive. But on the interior?

But I’m far from up to date on the latest technology for detecting DNA.

And I have never watched an episode of CSI either. /s

farsighted on April 29, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Lindsey Graham?

VorDaj on April 29, 2013 at 7:58 PM

:)

I wasn’t expecting that

Electrongod on April 29, 2013 at 8:01 PM

… how would the feds ever prove that it didn’t end up there innocently? Unless Dzhokhar’s prepared to testify to that fact, I mean. Maybe in exchange for a plea deal?

Some sociopaths might draw the line at fingering mom.

Some might not.

farsighted on April 29, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Can all former Weather Underground members be accounted for? What are their alibis (I imagine being “in class, teaching” is standard line for them all)?

Neo on April 29, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Allen: “Well, it’s when he began to actually pray, face towards Mecca and pray. Right away you heard comments: ‘This guy a terrorist? I think this guy’s a terrorist.’”

Not knowing the context of this quote initially I thought they were talking about fellow mosque attendees who were remarking on the intensity of his devotion. Realizing that Allen was his coach, I can only say it probably is a wee bit unusual for a boxer to pray to Mecca 5 times a day. I doubt Muhammad Ali did that. Who has the time to do this and hold a job/work (outside of a mosque or university of course).

Buy Danish on April 29, 2013 at 8:15 PM

The intelligence failure under Obama on this Boston terrorism is staggering. There should be a congressional investigation of it given the multiple warnings to the FBI & CIA. Under Obama there is a certain amount of cow-towing to CAIR and other enemies:

http://bit.ly/17uaQRJ

Chessplayer on April 29, 2013 at 8:17 PM

But, yeah, the tax payer foots the bill.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM

——

who will be paid for by the taxpayer, but not at his normal hourly rate, typically.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 7:45 PM

So not even the marxist dirtbags in our universities masquerading as law professors won’t defend a fellow dirtbag jihady on their own dime and time ?
This jihady has hit the jackpot after killing 4 people .

burrata on April 29, 2013 at 8:17 PM

But, yeah, the tax payer foots the bill.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM

——

who will be paid for by the taxpayer, but not at his normal hourly rate, typically.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 7:45 PM

So not even the marxist dirtbags in our universities masquerading as law professors want to defend a fellow dirtbag jihady on their own dime and time ?
This jihady has hit the jackpot after killing 4 people .

burrata on April 29, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Please please PLEASE let it be Joy Behar’s.

Bishop on April 29, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Please please PLEASE let it be Joy Behar’s.

Bishop on April 29, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Knowing the Left, they are probably hoping it’s Sarah Palin’s.

Del Dolemonte on April 29, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Who has the time to do this and hold a job/work (outside of a mosque or university of course).

Buy Danish on April 29, 2013 at 8:15 PM

What job? He was a self-described ‘stay-at-home’ dad. Staying at home was, obviously, a flexible term for him considering he left his wife and child and went to Russia for six months.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Buy Danish on April 29, 2013 at 8:15 PM

The five times a day prayer thing actually does not consume that much time, unless you are truly truly devout..toss the rug, tap your head to the ground a couple times, get up, roll up the rug…maybe a couple minutes, tops.

Was on a plane trying to fly out of Islamabad once, running late…PIA, of course…the plane stopped on the runway….doors opened, ladders propped up…most of the passengers got off…did the prayer thing, got back on the plane. OK, it was Pakistan. Troubling thing, at the time there was no fence along the runways…people just walked all over at will. Could have put anyone they wanted on that flight. Nobody checked anything when they got back onboard. Boom!

coldwarrior on April 29, 2013 at 8:23 PM

So not even the marxist dirtbags in our universities masquerading as law professors want to defend a fellow dirtbag jihady on their own dime and time ?
This jihady has hit the jackpot after killing 4 people .

burrata on April 29, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Marxist dirtbags are only only generous with other people’s money.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Meh.

What difference does it make?

Labamigo on April 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM

the dna could be from anyone who innocently touched any of the components- sales clerks, whom ever packaged any of the parts for sale, anyone who used the cooker for its intended purpose… they can get dna from the most minute sources now so the odds it was someone unconnected with the bombing are quite high…

mittens on April 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM

So not even the marxist dirtbags in our universities masquerading as law professors want to defend a fellow dirtbag jihady on their own dime and time ?
This jihady has hit the jackpot after killing 4 people .

burrata on April 29, 2013 at 8:19 PM

They never do trials. It’s easier to point your finger and second guess the trial atty. None of these organisations like Reprieve or AI do either. And foreign countries do not pay for attys or contribute to the defense. All they do is whine and lie after the fact.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 8:30 PM

HI MOM

Grunt on April 29, 2013 at 8:31 PM

The federal public defender’s office in Massachusetts is representing him. It can take on private second-chairs, who will be paid for by the taxpayer, but not at his normal hourly rate, typically.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 7:45 PM

With the media attention on this case? They had to beat off the number of lawyers willing to work for free to represent a terrorist who blew up an eight-year old. They are all scum.

Happy Nomad on April 29, 2013 at 8:33 PM

What job? He was a self-described ‘stay-at-home’ dad. Staying at home was, obviously, a flexible term for him considering he left his wife and child and went to Russia for six months.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Wife was working 80 hours a week. Hard to see how she was as involved as some suggest.

Happy Nomad on April 29, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Marxist dirtbags are only only generous with other people’s money.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 8:25 PM

I was expecting that since this Joker killed a cop,
he will be flooded with offers of pro bono
protection , from marxist dirtbags in our universities, on behalf of this WH.
Guess I was wrong.
Let’s hope that when he becomes a law professor after getting out of prison, he remembers the tough times he had and helps out as many jihadies as he can……

burrata on April 29, 2013 at 8:37 PM

‘Mommmmmmmaaaaaaaa!,’ ‘Honey, I think you left some DNA on that bomb!’ or entire family of ‘lone wolves’???

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM

.
‘I told you to “wipe it down good” ….. can’t you follow simple orders ? !’

listens2glenn on April 29, 2013 at 8:43 PM

What job? He was a self-described ‘stay-at-home’ dad. Staying at home was, obviously, a flexible term for him considering he left his wife and child and went to Russia for six months.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Yes, I know. But Muhammed Ali had a job. It was a general criticism of devout Islam and why it’s incompatible with America’s hard working culture. Or what was previously its culture when it was known as an extraordinarily industrious place. Before Barack.

coldwarrior on April 29, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Did things really go boom or are you describing what could have happened?

Buy Danish on April 29, 2013 at 8:44 PM

With the media attention on this case? They had to beat off the number of lawyers willing to work for free to represent a terrorist who blew up an eight-year old. They are all scum.

Happy Nomad on April 29, 2013 at 8:33 PM

The federal public defender’s office is representing Tsarnev. Motion filed by his Federal public defender, Miriam Conrad, to appoint ‘learned counsel’ in addition to attorneys from public defender’s office. Meet Miriam Conrad, ‘the 56-year-old veteran Federal public defender who may have become America’s most reviled lawyer last week when she agreed to represent Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the nation’s most infamous criminal defendant.’

Tsarnaev will reportedly face federal terrorism charges, as well as possible state murder charges. At this point, Obama administration officials say he will be tried in federal court. The Federal public defender’s office in Massachusetts will represent him.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 8:46 PM

This report means nothing. There was DNA of 200 people thrown around during the explosion.

TX-96 on April 29, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Wife was working 80 hours a week. Hard to see how she was as involved as some suggest.

Happy Nomad on April 29, 2013 at 8:36 PM

That leaves her with 88 other hours per week. I haven’t said that I think that she’s involved, but to say that she couldn’t have been because she works so much is naive. Besides, there are degrees of culpability. She or someone else may not have been part of the conspiracy or known exactly what they were going to do, but could still be guilty of other crimes.

As far as wifey and the benefit of the doubt are concerned, this woman saw her husband’s photo on national television and knew what he was accused of doing. According to her own brother-in-law, she advised them to get out of Dodge. Whether that is true or not, we will learn. What is NOT at question is how many authorities she called to let her know that he was her husband and she would help them in anyway possible. The answer to that is ZERO, which tells me everything that I need to know about her loyalties and sympathies.

Resist We Much on April 29, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Wife was working 80 hours a week. Hard to see how she was as involved as some suggest.

Happy Nomad on April 29, 2013 at 8:36 PM

There is no proof that she was working 80 hour weeks all the time. She may have gotten 7 12 hour shifts once. Her atty said she worked 80 hours so as to throw suspicion away from her and to garner sympathy of which I have none.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Buy Danish on April 29, 2013 at 8:44 PM

What coulda happened. I’m still very much alive. Thank you. :-)

coldwarrior on April 29, 2013 at 8:55 PM

This report means nothing. There was DNA of 200 people thrown around during the explosion.

TX-96 on April 29, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Someone else mentioned that it might have been the bomb they threw at the cops Friday night. In fact the lid popped off and the dna maybe from there.

Blake on April 29, 2013 at 8:55 PM

OMG! Female DNA on cookware!!

Ronnie on April 29, 2013 at 9:08 PM

That POS radical babe at Columbia or that POS wife of Bill Ayers need to be checked out.

Also, POS Mom up on Canuckland.

Bruno Strozek on April 29, 2013 at 9:20 PM

“Where was Sarah Palin .. Fauxahontas, Nappy, or Moosechelle .. during the making of these bombs?”
/FTFY
/.

CaveatEmpty on April 29, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Jeffrey Toobin ✔ @JeffreyToobin

This is a big deal

Pretty damning evidence that it’s a red herring, right there.

Buddahpundit on April 29, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Bawney Fwank?

Of course, this would rule out both Incompetano and Hillary as a source.

MrKleenexMuscles on April 30, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Have we stopped all muslim immigration yet? Why not? If it saves the life of one child, we have to do it.

slickwillie2001 on April 29, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Nicely done. Will have to save this for future use.

DrMagnolias on April 30, 2013 at 4:12 AM

If the female DNA was found on the base of the pressure cooker (which probably didn’t travel very far in the explosion), it could have been (as AP suggested) from a store clerk who sold the pressure cooker to the Tsarnaev brothers, innocently thinking they would use it to steam vegetables.

But beyond Tamerlan’s wife, what about suspicion on his MOTHER? The way she’s been ranting in public about how horrible America did such horrible things to her sweet widdle boys, couldn’t she have had a “hand” in the bombings?

Steve Z on April 30, 2013 at 9:39 AM

the dna could be from anyone who innocently touched any of the components- sales clerks, whom ever packaged any of the parts for sale, anyone who used the cooker for its intended purpose

I do this sort of thing for a living and this was my first thought. The DNA could have come from virtually anywhere and anyone…I don’t read much into this. Having said that, it also could have come from someone involved with the bombing……so it certainly needs to be looked at.

norm1111 on April 30, 2013 at 10:33 AM

As Yoda would say – “many people this could be from”.

budfox on April 29, 2013 at 7:46 PM

*facepalm* That would be “many people this from could be”. You have much learning to do geek padawan.

GWB on April 30, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Some sociopaths might draw the line at fingering mom.

Some might not.

farsighted on April 29, 2013 at 8:04 PM

If Tamerlan didn’t, that would be one possible explanation for how the DNA got there.

Marauder on April 30, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Slightly off topic, but I’ve not read any reports detailing how the terrorists got to their intended location. Did they drive themselves? Take the bus, subway, cab? Where were they immediately before the bombing? Who were they with?

One of the earliest photos circulated before the manhunt ended clearly shows them both walking between scores of people wearing bulky clothing and carrying back packs. By the time they got to the finish line area, they must have gone by who knows how many police and security personnel. Not a single person thought two individuals carrying obviously stuffed backpacks around a massively attended international event was odd?

RobertE on April 30, 2013 at 4:50 PM